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Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Vigilante is most certainly alive and well
Scum bomb died as well Town jailer and regular townie
Is nin the scum?
Scum bomb died as well Town jailer and regular townie
Is nin the scum?
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
What did Nin mean by "if Vigi is alive"
They are most certainly alive if Scum bomb/regular townie/Townie jailor is alive
They are most certainly alive if Scum bomb/regular townie/Townie jailor is alive
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
DEAD I MEAN
JFC
JFC
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
nin paste my pastel art I put up in my Resetera profile while you're at it why don't you
I'm self-taught you know
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Sorian's silence is deafening
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
jeez
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
hey Nomad what about Buck Bumble
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
It's up for review now and it's on second revision
PREORDER TODAY AND GET Antz in the Pantz DLC 1 year earlier
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
you would know if I was scum lmao
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
What is Buck Bumble
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
good to know
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
That singer was HIGH AF
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
How would I know?
karkador
Board Game King
He's asleep atm. Not that it makes him any less guilty
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Crimson because the end of day hitting feels like scum had an activity problem.
Sorian because of the way he was anti-Kawl lynch and followed onto CCS.
Everyone else still feels at least a bit sketchy. Trying to work out who I trust to be town is proving to be a difficult problem.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
Hunh interesting read, There's a chance I may believe you
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
It isn't a new read.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
Believing Faddy does not give you any town points mate. Just FYI.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
What is it with you btw? Any chance of getting a Bronx read from you?
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
I don't like you Faddy. I but I like where this is going.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
No. Bad to know. Your game is lacking.
(These arguments are so stupid). Seriously? Are you really so dense that you are changing the framework to sound witty? No, people who aren't good at scum hunting fell into the comfortable spot of "let's lynch the guy who hasn't played a single bit of mafia during this day phase." The luck was that his role did happen to be scum, he could have literally been anything, nothing from his actions meant jack shit for alignment. No one is saying everyone went to rng.net and happened to pull Kawl's number out of a hat.
I'm sure it had nothing to do with the soft claims.
Three things are dumb in this post. First, no shit I didn't vote for Kawl, he was not on the table for me, he was a non-entity likely heading straight to a replacement. I still had an hour left so while I had to self-pres, I also didn't need to negotiate on that point when the other counter wagon was one vote behind.
Second, you and FEP were not viable at that point, I sat on FEP all day and the shitshow seemed content with no lynch garbage until the pressure of day end actually loomed. You put "self preservation" in quotes so you likely don't understand how its a core concept in the game but I didn't have the luxury of voting off wagon for no reason. I had to take what I could get that actually had a non-random chance of being scum.
Third, I'm not sorry for asking squidy to actually explain the random vote he threw out. So, sure, if that's a scummy nibble, go for it.
I don't know what you are thinking. I know what you are. Scum Blarg doesn't actually piece together the coherent thought that's leading you to care about me, nin, and Topo. Your scattered posts wouldn't have a real point if you were scum.
The silence of sleeping. Seriously Nomad, read the thread.
You need to actually read the thread too while I'm at it.
The theory makes some sense and Crimson is the prime example but it works with anyone who was afk during day end. The issue I have is that everything was very close for awhile so even one properly timed vote could have swung it to CCS instead of Kawl so it's not like all hands needed to be on deck anyway.
Crimson is odd, he actually falls in to the common activity=town inactivity=scum rule set but he also drops off a lot regardless after day 1. So I don't actually know what I'm supposed to be expecting with him subbing in and not even caught up on the thread.
Crimson is odd, he actually falls in to the common activity=town inactivity=scum rule set but he also drops off a lot regardless after day 1. So I don't actually know what I'm supposed to be expecting with him subbing in and not even caught up on the thread.
Uh, catching up after being away most of the day - which I said - and yet I still have one of the thread's highest percentage of posts? What the shit, dude. Are you just not paying attention or are you trying to push this story of my inactivity? Because you did it last day phase, too. What gives?
In an hour I have podcast and then I have papers to grade. I'm gonna be away. Tomorrow I am driving to another university for a presentation. I will be out of pocket for several hours. I hope this is okay with you, O Grand Sir Nin.
In an hour I have podcast and then I have papers to grade. I'm gonna be away. Tomorrow I am driving to another university for a presentation. I will be out of pocket for several hours. I hope this is okay with you, O Grand Sir Nin.
For podcast, tonight we have two professors who just published an edited collection on race, gender, queer theory, and games. It's like a super SJW episode. I REALLY like one of the guests and am probably going to ask her to be the outside reader for my dissertation committee. <3
okay, got about a page to read
okay, got about a page to read
BiscuitFreak69
Secret Darryl
Haha people are salty they missed being a scumlyncher. It's not really true that this stuff is all random because he didn't post. I get a lot of lucky day #1 scum picks and I feel like it has to happen because of some intuition from reading the crowds sometimes. You can finger something that feels off for some reason in how people are acting. Kawl wasn't a lone wolf. Even if he never talked, opinions that were informed by knowing he was scum was in the thought cloud. Y'all need to find Mafia Jesus.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Are you surprised with the closeness of the vote that scum couldn't even tie the vote? I mean there were a few people, including yourself, who were adamantly against lynching an inactive.
Like their are 3 possibilities in my mind
1. Scum didn't have people available to vote, so I should look for who was inactive in the last two hours of day 1.
2. Scum were bussing Kawl, did people defend Kawl and then vote for him?
3. Scum were already on CCS
I think a combination of option 1 and 3 are most likely.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
It shouldn't be too hard to find all the day 1 mentions of Kawl and collate them in a post.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
How many times at end of day do people (and I include both of us) throw in a quick vote "Think Fast!" to tie it up and try and force people to pick a side.
A lot but I'm more talking about the vote ending at a tie. I'm pretty sure the vote tied twice yesterday during the shuffles.
Playing catch-up:
As for the other, your shade at me is gendered and baseless.
More to come.
I'm glad this is coming back with the squidy discussion. It does lend some credence to this idea of watching Crimson and Bronx. But we've got a day yet.
This, though - after hollering at me for "forcing" you to stay? Which is it?
You asked me why I said you were off-base. nin, like most of us, is as frequently wrong as he is right, and he's either missing some big things this game or he's scumnin trying to push something. I lean to the former because I don't think scumnin would try to push something so easily disproved, so y'know, I have a hard time coming on board nin as a master right now. The CCS vote was relatively easy; CCS was doing some weird things, and there was a strange link to Faddy. It was as valid a vote as several others yesterday. It's just that today we know it was wrong.
As for the other, your shade at me is gendered and baseless.
Yes. Sorian is making sense, and pushing some good ideas, but it feels to me like a guiding kind of sense, threading around other theories, pushing here and there to nudge, dropping some things that are hard to argue. There's a lack of some genuine quality that comes with town Sorian. It's not a strong read. I'm not certain. But a decent chance? Yes, I think so.
I got the notification after day's end that I'd been dragged off to jail, where I had a chat with a Mysterious Figure. CCS revealed himself to me literally two minutes before OM went down. It was funny.
More to come.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
About changing my vote. I definitely felt pressured to keep my vote on CCS since I had said I was going to do that but CCS's last ditch posting did make me think of switching because I was town-reading him. What if I had switched and Kawl was town? IDK what I would have done if the vote got tied, fortunately I didn't need to make that decision.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Ok so looking at how the day end played out.
In the last 45 minutes the following people posted and looked engaged
nin
monkey
fep
faddy
sorian
dusk
Darryl
cabot
squidy
ccs
kyan
With around an hour to go with Kawl leading nomad and karkador posted with votes for Sorian and didn't re-engage the thread. They would put Sorian on 3 votes joining with FEP.
Then El Topo lays out his case against CCS which he clearly spent a bit of time on
Did scum try and set up on Sorian but get blown off course by El Topo? If that is true why did kark and nomad not change their votes? Perhaps they didn't feel they could swing it so blatantly.
Kawl, Bronx, Kevyt (Crimson) and Blarg were absent at the deadline.
In the last 45 minutes the following people posted and looked engaged
nin
monkey
fep
faddy
sorian
dusk
Darryl
cabot
squidy
ccs
kyan
With around an hour to go with Kawl leading nomad and karkador posted with votes for Sorian and didn't re-engage the thread. They would put Sorian on 3 votes joining with FEP.
Then El Topo lays out his case against CCS which he clearly spent a bit of time on
Did scum try and set up on Sorian but get blown off course by El Topo? If that is true why did kark and nomad not change their votes? Perhaps they didn't feel they could swing it so blatantly.
Kawl, Bronx, Kevyt (Crimson) and Blarg were absent at the deadline.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
What indeed.
Nomad Sparkster
This is some wild shit maynard
If Sorian was anti kawl bus then I'll vote for Sorian just based on principal of that alone
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Do you think scum tried to take advantage of your stubbornness?
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Could you highlight what you think is a casual town read? Eventually you have to town read someone.
BiscuitFreak69
Secret Darryl
this doesn't mean what i think it means, does it
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I don't see the issue. The town read on Kyan is because his vote going to Kawl basically sealed the deal. Now Kyan could have been bussing but it seems a rather elaborate ploy imo.
El Topo
Spanish for "The Topo"
Interesting.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Couldn't have been that interesting since you left off most of the post!
I don't see you using coded language like irrational and vulnerable for anyone else. So, hey. Game off for a sec. Maybe consider that, okay? Just sit with it. Think about what I'm saying and how that comes across to me - especially considering my actual job centers on conflict and argumentation so it's probably something I'm not particularly irrational about.
Game on.
BiscuitFreak69
Secret Darryl
there's no coded language anywhere bruv, i'm referring to your posts and attitudes within the thread
i don't believe in online genders anyways. to me, we are all just words with feelings. i get fussy with the pronoun stuff and i don't care if people call me a boy or a girl because i refuse to think of anyone on here as a physical being. on the internet, we all transcend our worldy being into ephermerality.
but you've been heat-seeking and in the games i've played with you i don't think it is like you. in the last game you were really observant and analytic. so i do think it is possible that you're emotionally heightened right now with a desire for conflict for whatever EPHERMERAL reasons, thus i think my analysis is pretty fair
flatearthpandas
Round Moon Bears
I'm awake.
Topo, finding town is important as anything else in this game. And our community is worse at it than they are at finding scum. Finding town being a scumtell is probably why. I want to hear if you think the logic is sound or not.
Lot of people awfully sure there's a vig. I mean, there's obviously some other kill role, but why we sure vig?
Beyond that, surprisingly little evolution in conversation since before bed. I am still cool to lynch from yesterday's inactives or CCS train. I still think the timing of Topo's push makes it less likely he is the scum even if he thinks that's too casual. Already explained why.
Topo, finding town is important as anything else in this game. And our community is worse at it than they are at finding scum. Finding town being a scumtell is probably why. I want to hear if you think the logic is sound or not.
Lot of people awfully sure there's a vig. I mean, there's obviously some other kill role, but why we sure vig?
Beyond that, surprisingly little evolution in conversation since before bed. I am still cool to lynch from yesterday's inactives or CCS train. I still think the timing of Topo's push makes it less likely he is the scum even if he thinks that's too casual. Already explained why.
flatearthpandas
Round Moon Bears
About 9 hours ago. No follow-up. Not even a promise to be more active. But no replacement.
Nomad, why do think blarg could be SK?
El Topo
Spanish for "The Topo"
I think it's always interesting if someone ignores the issue and instead immediately jumps to the defense of someone else. Do you think that fep is not able to defend himself?
El Topo
Spanish for "The Topo"
Ouro is a sick, sick man. I wouldn't put anything past him to be honest. Probably added one or two Tanners as well.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I asked you for an example and looked to see if your point about easy town reads was an issue. The example provided seemed fine to me, a town read with a justifiable reason.
Somehow calling out your nonsense of easy town reads is me defending fep? I was more interested in why you were against people giving reads, particularly when they come with reasoning.
As weird as that was to read, Darryl has always been the one to refuse to list gender when he does his sign ups so not really out of character. This was a game off post too btw, I don't think he's doing anything there in a conscious or unconscious attempt to disrespect you monkey.
Why is that a bad town read? He gives actual reasoning for the Kyan read and it makes a lot of sense. I've said that same as well. It's rooted in the vote counts too, it's not even like how I'm reading Blarg solely on meta.
But you have been different. So how do we take that?
Yeah, I'm sorry, you're wrong and this is narrative pushing. Or rather, you're pushing your assumptions onto others. Further, it's clearly NOT comfortable, We were right and you're still talking about it, and so is cabot, like we did a terrible thing by lynching Kawl. So this just doesn't scan. So let's try it another way: What happens if you change your perspective and assume that it's just as legitimate as going for the most vocal? What if we say look, here's an uncertainty; let's remove it and keep listening to loud voices and weigh them until we must cull?
^^^^^ I just wanted to quote this because I think it underscores what I'm saying.
Same here. I want to highlight posts I think are important.
Look, I'm gonna quote this together and I'm gonna be clear: be that as it may, Sorian, I've never seen Darryl use that language with someone else. That shit can creep in without someone meaning it to and i'm pointing it out. I'm disheartened that my community, instead of listening to what I am experiencing, wants to instead write it off. Not even taking a minute to think about it, you know? Even that is male privilege. To say oh, I'll turn it off. I can't turn it off. I don't have that privilege. I will always be the only woman in this game unless someone gets replaced. You wanna pretend that gender doesn't happen? Sorry. That doesn't extend out past your bubble.
I'm done for the night. I'm disappointed. Just really fucking disappointed.
karkador
Board Game King
I don't need you to restate why people voted for Kawl. That's not the relevant part.
The relevant part is that Kawl was front-running. Mafia must have been worried about that...unless you want to argue that Mafia doesn't mind getting lynched?
Mafia needed to make decisions - do we let the vote happen to activate the lynch bomb? do we bus Kawl? do we try to save him by finding an alternative to lynch?
The vote ended with 6 Kawl to 5 CCS. Anybody could have tied it. Squidy baited Mafia with an out.
Kawl only won the vote because of a decision that was made by mafia to let him go.
So no, I reject that it was "Luck" in any sense. That's the kind of rhetoric that tries to clean up a crime scene.
BTW, when you're this brash, I know I'm onto something.
karkador
Board Game King
Sorian himself said that neither FEP nor I were a viable vote alternative yesterday.
The only other viable alternative for Mafia to avoid a Kawl lynch last night was Sorian. So why didn't they go to him? Were they hoping that No Lynch vote would pan out? Or is Sorian another Mafia caught up in those votes?
The only other viable alternative for Mafia to avoid a Kawl lynch last night was Sorian. So why didn't they go to him? Were they hoping that No Lynch vote would pan out? Or is Sorian another Mafia caught up in those votes?
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
empty admonishment from guy who has to resort to dredging me up to have an excuse for conversation
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
You can't say that then NOT guess at my conclusion
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
I was not dredging you :(
This is missing the point completely and I don't even know why I'm bothering since it's clear no one is going to listen until we are outside the bounds of the game because there is clearly a grand conspiracy but at the end of the day you lynched someone who had no threads coming out of them. You took a shot in the dark and you got it right. I'm not going to pat you on the back or approve because the odds of lynching at random do mean you'll hit scum sometimes just picking someone but more often you'll hit town. I quote Kark down below but to hit his premise too. Yes, people defended the the vacant spot. Because he is mafia, there may be something to read there but again, the issue is that some vets are also going to defend the spot for no real reason other than the spot not playing regardless of alignment. I find it obnoxious watching the cheering section (continued under Kark's post below).
Ok, now are you going to answer the question? Because mocking in caps doesn't tell me shit.
So you can read above for part of this, to actually talk about what can be gleaned here post lynch. There are some issues with Kawl. Great, he said hi here which means he likely spoke in scum chat at least once. Past that though, you run into the land of assumption. Did he play like you in love boat? Where he purposely didn't play in the main thread but actually had a presence in scum chat. If he did, suddenly it's unclear if he just wanted himself written out of the script early for his lynch bomb to take effect. Then suddenly it doesn't matter, why save him if you can be on the right side of history. What if he was actually gone in the scum thread to? Then you have figure out when scum wrote him off as a lost cause. They clearly did. According to you anyone could have tied it (though they really couldn't have, that would have been scummier than just letting it go but whatever, catering to your point here). Between the thread and the different possible states Kawl could have been in, yeah, actually, it's hard to say whether mafia minded getting lynched or not.
Your waiting to see how I react because you want to see how I treat both nin and Topo. You already think I'm the answer but are hoping you snagged two or three in your guess and want to bring them down with me.
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
well, not so much with the "It's gotta be you Sorian", but please, continue
You have quite a haughty opinion of yourself this game dontcha
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
I know what I saw
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
"Mafia please kill Sorian Tonight or else he's Mafia"
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
nin what do you think about Kark
flatearthpandas
Round Moon Bears
Recurring theme from blarg now. Is this the chorus to a meatier song?
Also, are quote links working for others? They aren't doing anything for me. Topos hyper link was fine but the ones on quotes, no
You're the one pulling for my opinions. There's clearly something there.
I had to log out and log back in for them to work.
cabot
Why.
Nah Topo, you can have town reads from the getgo. It's also useful to air them so you can see how others views compare to your own and think about it from their perspective.
Are we all supposed to be playing cards close to our chest without any real progress made and useful, open discussion?
What is this the Brexit negotiations ?
cabot
Why.
I'm not really sure what Monkey and Kark are arguing.
You voted a player who never responded. He was scum. There's very little to work from there apart from the advantage of one scum being down.
I never said it's a terrible thing. It's pretty reckless and from my perspective it's bad form.
I think its scummy to take credit for that.
The End.
Don't know what Nomad is doing.
You voted a player who never responded. He was scum. There's very little to work from there apart from the advantage of one scum being down.
I never said it's a terrible thing. It's pretty reckless and from my perspective it's bad form.
I think its scummy to take credit for that.
The End.
Don't know what Nomad is doing.
cabot
Why.
Or scum could have been inactive, which isnt a far cry considering how a section of this game has been awol.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
He must be scum. Damn you autocorrect
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
where
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
well, getgo Town reads are often tinged with bias and thus are practically useless IMHO, so why do them you know
Role-claim
Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
yep
cabot
Why.
it's good for trying to determine another player's logic.
Why do they townread / scumread this person / what reasons do they give / do those reasons make sense / would a person whos wincon is to kill scum think like this
That's what I think when I see people offering reads.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
I knew this was going to happen
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
I ye ye, sure anyone else wants to pile on me?