Game Thread Love Boat: The Spin-off |OT| We Bare Boats

[Jet Ski]

Why did you share that your partner won’t talk to you?

Why not?

 

[Submarine]

What the fuck did I just read?

Clearly someone needs to learn deep Tumblr Lore about the guy and his 3 weed smoking girlfriends.

For anyone who gets this, I like your shoelaces ;D

 

[Jet Ski]

So while I don't think being a nerd says anything about your alignment because I'm like 95% there's scum in this game and I don't believe that you're all town, I do think Sub has had a pretty strong start. We'll see on if they keep that up.

Cruis'n USA worrying about the sanctity of the game at this point is a bit of a weird look. Not really a look I expect scum to want early game though so I feel okay about them for now.

 

[Galleon]

Ok, let's go back to this.

First of all, whats not fun about houseboats as flotation devices? It's a whole damn house on a boat...

Secondly, what do you mean by "protection"?

And last, what about their vote is sus to you?

They want to protect Duck and they vote for non game reasons, feels like team [scum] play.

and what is fun about playing with a building?

 

[Cruise Ship]

Why not?

Idk. Just curious

 

[Yacht]

Hows the whaling go Yacht? Got any sweet SSR recently?

How much of my identity will I reveal by admitting I have no idea what this means?

A hydra game is pretty new for the community so I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to find the best way to approach it. Like I attempted to make a plan with my partner but they won't talk to me so

Was your plan something that would be more effective as a secret with your partner or a general approach for a hydra game?

 

[Cruise Ship]

How much of my identity will I reveal by admitting I have no idea what this means?

Gatcha games. And maybe a little bit.

 

[Kayak]

Lifeboats are orange.

this guy is mafia

So you’re neutral?

 

[Beluga Whale]

How much of my identity will I reveal by admitting I have no idea what this means?

Was your plan something that would be more effective as a secret with your partner or a general approach for a hydra game?

Nice try gacha gamer. We gatcha

 

[Yacht]

This is gacha journalism.

 

[Jet Ski]

Was your plan something that would be more effective as a secret with your partner or a general approach for a hydra game?

Nah nothing like that. Just a general approach

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

I'm the only one annoyed that engineer #2 is trying to exploit the game posting in italic?

exploiting the game is pretty strong wording lol

 

[Submarine]

They want to protect Duck and they vote for non game reasons, feels like team [scum] play.

Where do you see them wanting to protect Duck?

 

[Jet Ski]

Okay people aren't talking about me enough and I'm bored. Anyone have any thoughts they would like to share with the class.

 

[Jet Ski]

You could also tell me how awesome and cool I am. That's a good thought and worth sharing.

 

[Houseboat]

Which Jet Ski is asking though?

 

[Cruise Ship]

Not sure how awesome jet ski is. I jet skied once & kind of felt like I wished I was either swimming or safely in a boat.

To make conversation, how do you all think the pair format is going to affect your reads? I think it's going to be harder to point out inconsistencies, but I also think relying on consistency too much for reads can be a crutch

 

[Inflatable Boat]

You could also tell me how awesome and cool I am. That's a good thought and worth sharing.

jet skis are the motorcycles of the ocean but somehow less cool

 

[Galleon]

Hello future winners!

Where do you see them wanting to protect Duck?

*
Going in with a pre-game meme during the game.

Did I confuse two accounts?

or am I voting for houseboat?

 

[Inflatable Boat]

My Other Half hasn't mentioned anything yet to me but I do want to say that at least half of this pair likes Submarine so far.

Not sure how awesome jet ski is. I jet skied once & kind of felt like I wished I was either swimming or safely in a boat.

To make conversation, how do you all think the pair format is going to affect your reads? I think it's going to be harder to point out inconsistencies, but I also think relying on consistency too much for reads can be a crutch

I'm struggling enough as-is trying to remember posts to names so get back to me on this later.

But I do agree that inconsistencies might be harder to point out but I get the feeling most posting 'styles' will come through for individuals. I am curious on how this may or may not affect voting though as I can picture scum not wanting to fumble over their pair partner if things get dicey.

 

[Gondola]

To make conversation, how do you all think the pair format is going to affect your reads? I think it's going to be harder to point out inconsistencies, but I also think relying on consistency too much for reads can be a crutch

I like the thought that if I can find something townie in one of the pair that it helps clear up the other half even if i have a poorer grasp on some of the posts coming out of an account. There's 26 of us but if you can something positive on even just one of the voices per slot, you only have 12 reads you need to nail successfully. Even just a few pages in, the game feels like a bit of jumble and kind of hard to parse but with the above in mind it feels doable if we just keep trying to find townie things. Plus having a friend to be try to bounce reads off of should be nice.

 

[Beluga Whale]

Not sure how awesome jet ski is. I jet skied once & kind of felt like I wished I was either swimming or safely in a boat.

To make conversation, how do you all think the pair format is going to affect your reads? I think it's going to be harder to point out inconsistencies, but I also think relying on consistency too much for reads can be a crutch

There's that, but getting reads down as the days pass is also going to be a nightmare. When someone can make a read and then later say their partner did it, while their partner says they've been consistent with their read that their partner disagreed with, when they have not, the lines blur. We're going to be evaluating two people instead of one so beyond the minutiae we'll have to depend on our own judgement there.

 

[Jet Ski]

Not sure how awesome jet ski is. I jet skied once & kind of felt like I wished I was either swimming or safely in a boat.

To make conversation, how do you all think the pair format is going to affect your reads? I think it's going to be harder to point out inconsistencies, but I also think relying on consistency too much for reads can be a crutch

You should try being cooler while riding one.

For the most part I'm going to try to approach this like a normal game except I'm going to keep in mind reads probably won't be super consistent. Think voting is going to be the real weird thing later, and I'm wondering how other pairs are going to handle that.

 

[Jet Ski]

Which Jet Ski is asking though?

I'm sure my other half will post eventually. They're just getting warmed up. I hope.

 

[Submarine]

Going in with a pre-game meme during the game.

I guess I don't see that as a defense considering we were minutes into the game and it was literally a joke.

Going back to your vote post:

I find
vote: houseboat
to be a good move, as they are both the least fun of flotation devices and also their protection and voting behavior is sus.

The reason this stuck out to me so much is that everyone else was just fucking around with early joke votes, but yours straddles the line between joking (least fun flotation device) and serious (protecting players and sus votes). It reads to me as someone wanting to say something to justify their early vote and maybe plant a seed that can take that vote all the way to EoD by never letting off the "this player is kinda sus" train. Upon examination, and then questioning, I just find myself not agreeing at all that Houseboat seemed like they were protecting anyone or voting in a sus way, and so I instead find you to be the sus one for the way in which the vote came about and feeling like you were scraping for reasons to justify it.

Vote: Galleon

To make conversation, how do you all think the pair format is going to affect your reads? I think it's going to be harder to point out inconsistencies, but I also think relying on consistency too much for reads can be a crutch

The Costume/Hydra aspect is definitely an additional layer of complication, but when it comes to reads, I think it works about the same as a Pairs game for me. If I feel good/bad about one of the voices coming from an account, it will probably help me get a read on the other in some way.

 

[Jet Ski]

Feeling good about my town read on Sub.

 

[Jet Ski]

I honestly read that initial justification for Galileo's vote as a joke because surely they weren't seriously using that at this point of the game, but I didn't really read too much surrounding it because it wasn't about me and I don't like reading about uncool things for that long. Seems like they doubled down on it thought so I can see why that's raising some submarine alarms there. It seems like the most "Yeah that could be something" thing that's happened so far. Don't know if I scum read Galileo for it though. Think it could easily be town just seeing something in nothing.

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

im not sure why im being brought up as someone being protected so that feels like a weird way for galleon to justify that vote

but submarine and galleon both appear to be trying to move the game out of the small talk phase which i like

slightly more positive read on submarine but both feel town so far

 

[Submarine]

Part of what seemed appealing to me about the idea of this game was not only would we not know who was who, but which person was talking when. Obvious number 2 here changed it up by making themselves more apparent, but whatever that's their choice and they can always stop if you guys really have a problem with it.

I do think having two person per account will make reads a lot harder, but really it shouldn't be too complicated if we just treat it like regular mafia.

If something seems sus to you, then def keep it in mind even if an account mostly sounds fine, and if you feel good about one over all, the whooo focus on the others and get back to that one later.

As for early reads some thoughts:

-Cruise ship's reaction to my partner was def a bit weird, but also i can see where they are getting out especially if they like costume games where we really don't know who is who. I'll keep it in mind but not sure there.

-I agree with number 2's suspicion of Galleon for assuming Houseboat is some form of protection, that's def a bit weird.

-My heart will be crushed if Duck is scum just because I want duck to win lol, but I am just naturally sus of them because they were having a good read about me and my partner so early on. My apologies if it was just a genuine good vibe early on, I'm just suspicious of this sort of thing you know XD

-The Jet ski that has been fine and seems pretty cool.

 

[Yacht]

To make conversation, how do you all think the pair format is going to affect your reads? I think it's going to be harder to point out inconsistencies, but I also think relying on consistency too much for reads can be a crutch

I think the doubling up of voices should be a net positive, so many games come down to being able to find the town in someone so having two perspectives should help there where one half might be a tougher read.

There's 26 of us but if you can something positive on even just one of the voices per slot, you only have 12 reads you need to nail successfully.

I like this line of thinking and this post.

When someone can make a read and then later say their partner did it, while their partner says they've been consistent with their read that their partner disagreed with, when they have not, the lines blur.

This is one argument for the more clear cut delineation submarine is going for. That said, I think it might not be as bad as it seems since a town pair with genuine disagreement should have more tells if their vote/read was in conflict. We can ask if they really disagreed or are just hiding behind the murkiness of the pair mechanic.

 

[Submarine]

-Cruise ship's reaction to my partner was def a bit weird, but also i can see where they are getting out especially if they like costume games where we really don't know who is who. I'll keep it in mind but not sure there.

*where they are upset especially if they like costume games where we really don't know who is who. I'll keep it in mind, but not sure there.

I really need to read my posts more lol

 

[Houseboat]

Whole lotta people townreading Submarine mere hours into the first day.

 

[Submarine]

It happens :shrug: I don't get it either sometimes honestly.

 

[Jet Ski]

Whole lotta people townreading Submarine mere hours into the first day.

Just do townie stuff and you too can be town read

 

[Houseboat]

Just do townie stuff and you too can be town read

Sure, but "moving the game out of the small talk phase" is enough to be town read?
Now I know that wasn't your read on Submarine, but I'm still throwing the question out there.

 

[Galleon]

I guess I don't see that as a defense considering we were minutes into the game and it was literally a joke.

Only scum has an idea who each other are at that point, so ordinary hello memes don’t work except for that team.

So, all early jokes in costume are sus.

 

[Jet Ski]

Sure, but "moving the game out of the small talk phase" is enough to be town read?
Now I know that wasn't your read on Submarine, but I'm still throwing the question out there.

This gets brought up almost every game where there's an early town read that people are getting behind and I have a hard time giving it all that much stock. Like yeah, some of these town reads don't have that much behind them, but you said it yourself, we're not very far into the game, and it just reads to me that players latching onto something that sticks out to them early game. Like if that's still your read there in the next day phase or near EOD or if that's like their only read they give us than yeah that might be an issue, but if someone wants to make a weaker read early game I don't really see much point in giving them too much of a hard time about it. It's like getting blood from a stone to get reads out of some players as is.

 

[Submarine]

Only scum has an idea who each other are at that point, so ordinary hello memes don’t work except for that team.

So, all early jokes in costume are sus.

That seems like you're making a huge assumption and then a wild leap in logic from it, so I kind of doubt you truly believe this.

This gets brought up almost every game where there's an early town read that people are getting behind and I have a hard time giving it all that much stock. Like yeah, some of these town reads don't have that much behind them, but you said it yourself, we're not very far into the game, and it just reads to me that players latching onto something that sticks out to them early game. Like if that's still your read there in the next day phase or near EOD or if that's like their only read they give us than yeah that might be an issue, but if someone wants to make a weaker read early game I don't really see much point in giving them too much of a hard time about it. It's like getting blood from a stone to get reads out of some players as is.

^^^^^^
100% agreed with all of this.

 

[Submarine]

Fuck, I didn't italicize lmao.

That was me, #2 above!

 

[Submarine]

I guess I was coming in clearer on the comms for a sec there, weird!

 

[Yacht]

Sure, but "moving the game out of the small talk phase" is enough to be town read?
Now I know that wasn't your read on Submarine, but I'm still throwing the question out there.

Can you explain why this is a bad thing or worth bringing up at this moment in time?

 

[Galleon]

That seems like you're making a huge assumption and then a wild leap in logic from it, so I kind of doubt you truly believe this.

Prove the negative. That’s right, you can’t.

I believe it enough to put down a vote two minutes into day one and see what happens.

I want to hear more from Inflatable. Feels like they posted just to not be accused of skipping out on the thread entirely.

Jet Ski seems fine so far. Some townish hints.

Feels liek the Beluga costume will turn out a red herring rather than some game design tell.

 

[Yacht]

Currently giving galleon the benefit of the doubt, thinking you've caught a scum/scum pair off an early day 1 post feels more like misplaced town optimism than a scum opener.

 

[Jet Ski]

misplaced town optimism is my middle name

 

[Submarine]

Fuck, I didn't italicize lmao.

That was me, #2 above!

Wow I've never heard your voice so clearly!

 

[Submarine]

I believe it enough to put down a vote two minutes into day one and see what happens.

Fair enough, I guess.

thinking you've caught a scum/scum pair off an early day 1 post feels more like misplaced town optimism than a scum opener.

I can see this angle yeah, but as much as I like the term "misplaced town optimism" I still stand by my assessment of Galleon for now, which is that their entrance/initial vote were sus enough for me to tunnel on for a bit.

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I'll look over the rest of the roster in another post later tonight and try to get some early feels down from people's entrances and such.

 

[Beluga Whale]

As one member of the Beluga Whale squad, I think posting to differentiate yourself is a good thing, as it doesn't really break the rules or the spirit of the game, IMHO.
I think an early vote in a costume game of this difficulty to evaluate at a glance is NAI and I wouldn't evaluate it as either particularly scummy or particularly townie

 

[Beluga Whale]

As one member of the Beluga Whale squad, I think posting to differentiate yourself is a good thing, as it doesn't really break the rules or the spirit of the game, IMHO.
I think an early vote in a costume game of this difficulty to evaluate at a glance is NAI and I wouldn't evaluate it as either particularly scummy or particularly townie

Took the words right out of my spout. I'll add that while I don't think differentiating yourself from your partner is a bad thing it doesn't need to be a deliberate act either. Don't lay it on so thick that it becomes unnatural.

 

[Inflatable Boat]

Sure, but "moving the game out of the small talk phase" is enough to be town read?
Now I know that wasn't your read on Submarine, but I'm still throwing the question out there.

Why not put this question to the person who said that?

Prove the negative. That’s right, you can’t.

I believe it enough to put down a vote two minutes into day one and see what happens.

I want to hear more from Inflatable. Feels like they posted just to not be accused of skipping out on the thread entirely.

Jet Ski seems fine so far. Some townish hints.

Feels liek the Beluga costume will turn out a red herring rather than some game design tell.

Please, call us Inflatable Boat. I'm realizing there is no good shortening of our name: Inflatable is a little odd, Boat is too broad for this game, and IB is irritable bowel. A lose/lose situation.

What would you like to hear from us?

 

[Inflatable Boat]

As one member of the Beluga Whale squad, I think posting to differentiate yourself is a good thing, as it doesn't really break the rules or the spirit of the game, IMHO.
I think an early vote in a costume game of this difficulty to evaluate at a glance is NAI and I wouldn't evaluate it as either particularly scummy or particularly townie

How does this make you feel about Galleon?

 

[Lifeboat]

Not much to go off of, but so far based on vibes I'm also in camp Town-Submarine.

Vote candidates for me are Galleon and Yacht. I'm not a fan of the reasoning based on the pre game joke. While it is the case that Scum know their team, in my experience they won't make it this obvious unless they post in the wrong thread by accident. In fact usually Scum have a harder time interacting with each other than with Town, so if anything I'd say Houseboat and Duck are probably not Scum/Scum.
Yacht is more vibes based. Their read on Galleon feels a bit off I think, not sure why it's bothering me though.

 

[Gondola]

Goddamn it lol going to have to watch changing pages looking at posts with drafts disabled, just lost a post I'd typed up.

Quite liking anyone that's shown up meaningfully so far really, it's easy to pick at flimsy reads or leans early on but folks showing up in the first 12 hours to try and make something happen feels good for me on day 1, it gets folks chatting and that can help find towny feeling things as much as it does anything scummy, probably more. This feels like an easy game to slip into the background on for scum. @Kayak and @Skiff have been quiet so far, how are you all coping with the costume/hydra aspect of the game? Anything you've seen you feel good about or just anything really?

Whole lotta people townreading Submarine mere hours into the first day.

Sure, but "moving the game out of the small talk phase" is enough to be town read?
Now I know that wasn't your read on Submarine, but I'm still throwing the question out there.

Who's actually pinging you here though, this kind of reads like pushing back against town reading in general oppose to anything you actually didn't like particular. If there's a reason you thought someone gave that was bad/off or if you think there's a specific problem with submarine call it out so we can think about it.

 

[Gondola]

Side note, the "who replied" option not being on OM is throwing me off a little lol anyone got any solution to that they want to share?

 

[Yacht]

Side note, the "who replied" option not being on OM is throwing me off a little lol anyone got any solution to that they want to share?

People use that on Era? Why?

 

[Gondola]

People use that on Era? Why?

I don't know about people but boats do

(I never installed/figured out the ISO tool thing so usually click that to check post count then go in and read x user's posts from the thread)

 

[Skiff]

Given who submarine #1 appears to be there posts so far seem fairly typical of them regardless of alignment.

@Skiff have been quiet so far, how are you all coping with the costume/hydra aspect of the game? Anything you've seen you feel good about or just anything really?

First of all I don't feel 'good' about anything, I'm a realist.

The hydra aspect is a distraction that only matters if you care about people having consistent reads. You should be looking for authenticity and due to the natural chaos of humanity there's zero correlation between authenticity and consistency.

I dislike the number of potential avenues for reads Lifeboat set up in #251, it reeks of narrative.

Houseboat shouldn't throw cargo overboard, that's littering.

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[The Bear]

==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Submarine (2 votes)
Beluga Whale - #113
Houseboat - #134

Kayak (1 votes)
Lifeboat - #109

Beluga Whale (1 votes)
Jet Ski - #105
Submarine - #108 #225

Houseboat (1 votes)
Galleon - #160

Galleon (1 votes)
Submarine - #225

Not voting: Giant Rubber Duck, Cruise Ship, Gondola, Yacht, Kayak, Inflatable Boat, Skiff

Post Counts:
Submarine: 35 Beluga Whale: 20 Jet Ski: 19 Houseboat: 16 Giant Rubber Duck: 14 Lifeboat: 13 Gondola: 10 Galleon: 9 Yacht: 7 Cruise Ship: 6 Inflatable Boat: 6 Skiff: 3 Kayak: 2

Current Countdown:

Click here to go to the Vote Tool!

 

[Gondola]

Given who submarine #1 appears to be there posts so far seem fairly typical of them regardless of alignment.


First of all I don't feel 'good' about anything, I'm a realist.

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lmao is this in character with Jack from the FF game? I only know the memes but this feels more existential than I anticipated.

The hydra aspect is a distraction that only matters if you care about people having consistent reads. You should be looking for authenticity and due to the natural chaos of humanity there's zero correlation between authenticity and consistency.

I dislike the number of potential avenues for reads Lifeboat set up in #251, it reeks of narrative.

Houseboat shouldn't throw cargo overboard, that's littering.

Alright, fair point about authenticity over consistency, in my mind that's another way of saying if you scum read first over town reading you will just scum read the entire roster since everyone will say inconsistent things or things you don't like etc. so I can get behind that thought well enough. Going back to feeling good, I meant really just within the game, is there anyone yet you would say has posted anything authetic feeling enough to give you a good vibe? Early doors I know, but just trying to get an idea of anything towny you might have seen or felt and not just what you didn't like

 

[Yacht]

Wait how did Skiff add a signature?

 

[Submarine]

Wait how did Skiff add a signature?

I assume just copy and pasting it in every time lol. When you quote them it removes the line they add.

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

Whole lotta people townreading Submarine mere hours into the first day.

Sure, but "moving the game out of the small talk phase" is enough to be town read?
Now I know that wasn't your read on Submarine, but I'm still throwing the question out there.

these two posts are concern trolling

the first post insinuates a lot of the game town reading them which isn't true

the second is you vibe checking hoping that someone agrees with you

VOTE: Houseboat

 

[Yacht]

these two posts are concern trolling

the first post insinuates a lot of the game town reading them which isn't true

the second is you vibe checking hoping that someone agrees with you

VOTE: Houseboat

I don't see the trolling anywhere? Or the problem with those 2 posts for that matter.

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

concern trolling is acting like there is an issue when you dont actually believe there is an issue

not the same as regular trolling

i do not believe houseboat made those two posts in good faith

 

[Cruise Ship]

I don't know about people but boats do

(I never installed/figured out the ISO tool thing so usually click that to check post count then go in and read x user's posts from the thread)

Just click on the name— all these accounts have only posted in this thread (except threads you can’t see… right?)

 

[Beluga Whale]

How does this make you feel about Galleon?

Definitely something to keep an eye on, a little sus. Our vote might end up there today

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

these two posts are concern trolling

the first post insinuates a lot of the game town reading them which isn't true

the second is you vibe checking hoping that someone agrees with you

VOTE: Houseboat

I would say that it is true. I was first and then noticed a couple echoing my thoughts. That is more than anyone else so I don't find it strange to notice that.

at least half of this pair likes Submarine so far.

Feeling good about my town read on Sub.

 

[Gondola]

opens thread
sees BIG DUCK post something that is not quack
dreams, shattered

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

concern trolling is acting like there is an issue when you dont actually believe there is an issue

not the same as regular trolling

i do not believe houseboat made those two posts in good faith

But I do kinda agree with this. Looking over the posts again there is an odd "I gotta stop this" feeling like they have a hidden agenda.

Whole lotta people townreading Submarine mere hours into the first day.

The second post is maybe a bit better. Seems more genuine,

Sure, but "moving the game out of the small talk phase" is enough to be town read?
Now I know that wasn't your read on Submarine, but I'm still throwing the question out there.

 

[Gondola]

Just click on the name— all these accounts have only posted in this thread (except threads you can’t see… right?)

Yeah, that a totally fine way of doing it, I just like being able to pop out each player's history of posts from the larger list, it helps remind me x or y are in the game when I'm looking at it. Appreciate the response lol

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

opens thread
sees BIG DUCK post something that is not quack
dreams, shattered

I thought about some form of roleplay, but realized it would just be a pain to read.

Sorry~~

 

[Gondola]

opens thread
sees BIG DUCK post something that is not quack
dreams, shattered

well well well, look who showed up

 

[Gondola]

I thought about some form of roleplay, but realized it would just be a pain to read.

Sorry~~

is fine, I had a lil fun time picturing you two going quack and QUACK for D1. would've been big fun for me at least.

well well well, look who showed up

when I normally monologue, the voices don't talk back. odd.

 

[Galleon]

What would you like to hear from us?

What is your intended approach to solving this game?

 

[Yacht]

Please, call us Inflatable Boat. I'm realizing there is no good shortening of our name: Inflatable is a little odd, Boat is too broad for this game, and IB is irritable bowel. A lose/lose situation.

We could call you Dinghy.

I don't see the trolling anywhere? Or the problem with those 2 posts for that matter.

I kinda see what duck is saying, it looks to me like Houseboat wants to be contrarian for the sake of it instead of just saying something more personal like "I know a few people like sub but I'm not seeing it yet"

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

quack

 

[Lifeboat]

these two posts are concern trolling

the first post insinuates a lot of the game town reading them which isn't true

the second is you vibe checking hoping that someone agrees with you

VOTE: Houseboat

At least from what I can tell the general sentiment does seem to be that Submarine seems towny.

I also don't really agree that it's concern trolling. It is legitimate to ask where a town read comes from, especially if you might not agree with it.

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

At least from what I can tell the general sentiment does seem to be that Submarine seems towny.

I also don't really agree that it's concern trolling. It is legitimate to ask where a town read comes from, especially if you might not agree with it.

there is a difference between asking and throwing shade

this was a lot of the latter imo

 

[Houseboat]

The giant rubber duck is accusing other watercraft of throwing shade, eh?

 

[Lifeboat]

there is a difference between asking and throwing shade

this was a lot of the latter imo

I agree that submarine is townie.

Here is a question. What does mafia houseboat get from throwing shade at submarine? To me it makes them seem more like a cautious townie.

 

[Jet Ski]

The giant rubber duck is accusing other watercraft of throwing shade, eh?

Well let me ask you this Trailer Park of the Seas, did you have an actual issue with any reads specifically?

 

[Jet Ski]

I agree that submarine is townie.

Here is a question. What does mafia houseboat get from throwing shade at submarine? To me it makes them seem more like a cautious townie.

I don’t know about townie, but it’s NAI for me.

 

[Gondola]

I agree that submarine is townie.

Here is a question. What does mafia houseboat get from throwing shade at submarine? To me it makes them seem more like a cautious townie.

It read more like they were pushing back against the people dropping town reads for sub than sub themselves, or at least that was more my interpretation. I don't think there's anything wrong with questioning reads or having suspicions if you think someone is jumping on a read without an explanation (that's just playing the game) but i'd prefer they just say who jumped out and why so we can understand the thought process and see there actually was one.

 

[Houseboat]

Nice try gacha gamer. We gatcha

(sound warning)

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

I agree that submarine is townie.

Here is a question. What does mafia houseboat get from throwing shade at submarine? To me it makes them seem more like a cautious townie.

the shade wasn't even at sub it was at town reads of sub

i can list a few reasons why mafia would want to throw fud there but the most obvious is to scare people off from town reading a town player too early and leaving them in the pool of possible suspects

 

[Lifeboat]

the shade wasn't even at sub it was at town reads of sub

i can list a few reasons why mafia would want to throw fud there but the most obvious is to scare people off from town reading a town player too early and leaving them in the pool of possible suspects

yes the point is they went against the consensus and put themselves in the spotlight. kind of weird play for mafia right?

 

[Houseboat]

I like Submarine more starting at post #189. The italicized half is engaging with people about the game, and they have a high post count. Good enough for this early on. I disagree with my other half about the vote.

The italics do not show up in the search tool which is quite annoying. Had to use CTRL+F and manually look.

 

[Jet Ski]

the shade wasn't even at sub it was at town reads of sub

i can list a few reasons why mafia would want to throw fud there but the most obvious is to scare people off from town reading a town player too early and leaving them in the pool of possible suspects

I get what you’re saying. Having a more open POI helps scum for sure. I don’t know if scum goes for that at this point though. It’s one of thirteen slots and town is going to town read some people so I would expect scum to let this one go. I could see bold scum going for that there, but I feel like the floating buildings post could easily be from a townie point of view.

 

[Houseboat]

I like Skiff's post #256, seems to be trying to cut through the bullshit. Also, how could I hate Jack Chaos.

Galleon is already trying to make connections between players in #204. That feels a little early for me but I appreciate the enthusiasm. I like the confidence in #242 as well, feels more like overconfident town than scum bluster.

 

[Lifeboat]

So you’re neutral?

Worst comeback i have ever seen tbh

 

[Beluga Whale]

Given who submarine #1 appears to be there posts so far seem fairly typical of them regardless of alignment.


First of all I don't feel 'good' about anything, I'm a realist.

The hydra aspect is a distraction that only matters if you care about people having consistent reads. You should be looking for authenticity and due to the natural chaos of humanity there's zero correlation between authenticity and consistency.

I dislike the number of potential avenues for reads Lifeboat set up in #251, it reeks of narrative.

Houseboat shouldn't throw cargo overboard, that's littering.

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Does potential avenues mean Lifeboat looking at Yacht and Galleon? Can you explain the narrative bit?

As for the whole don't town read this person early, it's NAI for me atm. This early in the game, less than 12 hours, I would say it could be a conservative mindset and not exactly done with malicious intent. Some people dislike giving out town or scum reads too early. At EoD if they were still saying similar without any reasoning then I'd want them to give thoughts on why rather than asking.

 

[Submarine]

Went to bed early last night, so didn't get around to looking at the roster for some early reads like I wanted to, will do that in a bit once I'm more awake.

 

[Cruise Ship]

Thanks everybody for answering the question about how the hydra/costume aspect affects gameplay. I like the diversity of opinions.

as for me, cruise ship, my upper & lower decks are in complete accord; we speak with one voice.

i am ok with houseboat questioning the town reads on submarine. Although I think early town reads are fine, even good as they can lead to forming a town core, submarine has definitely taken on a prominent role & could be headed for the de facto “town leader” position which can lead to alarm bells for some. Including me— I have a null read on submarine currently. House boat’s questioning I see as towny, for the reason that mafia would be more careful of saying something that seems against “how to play towny” consensus, but that’s not to say it’s lead to a full town read on houseboat.

Rubber ducky accusing houseboat of concern trolling I find aggressive play. Currently nai, worth watching.

Galleon thinking houseboat was protecting ducky I see as a nothingburger as far as suspicion is concerned.

I wish I had stronger reads so far, but I’m not persuaded by what I’ve seen yet.

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

yes the point is they went against the consensus and put themselves in the spotlight. kind of weird play for mafia right?

no

people play differently

it was suspect and i am directly pointing it out and voting for it

im not handwaving it away because its "kind of weird for mafia"

 

[Kayak]

Whole lotta people townreading Submarine mere hours into the first day.

Are there specific people doing this that you find their read either to feel fabricated or too easy of a conclusion to have reached? Reads are going to happen, nothing inherently scummy beyond possible thought process to reach that conclusion.

 

[Houseboat]

people play differently

Is that so?

Submarine's role playing is too nerdy to be scum

That's not how you felt earlier. Or were you just joking there?

 

[Cruise Ship]

no

people play differently

it was suspect and i am directly pointing it out and voting for it

im not handwaving it away because its "kind of weird for mafia"

Ok, but why doesn’t the same principle that people play differently apply to houseboat’s concern about sun being too town read? I don’t fully get why that’s scummy

 

[Gondola]

So much of this is blending in together pretty hard ngl. Thought for a while that Cruise and Yacht were the same thing, had to erase a bit because of it lol.

Galleon has an attitude what I somewhat liked, but it do be NAI. Tbh I am not sure what was the reasoning for the Houseboat vote in the end, was there a retcon or not? Tbh that should make it a less good vote then, because it being ambiguous means that it struggles to be played as a "I voted for reactions/content/making things move" vote. Not that it has been played as such, but I kind of was hoping for a moment that'd be the next step eventually.

Only scum has an idea who each other are at that point, so ordinary hello memes don’t work except for that team.

So, all early jokes in costume are sus.

Can you explain this a bit? I am an idiot and fail to completely understand how that post is a defense/protection.

Cruise coming with that spirit of the game -bit felt genuine. Minuscule town hint at best, super baddies could just fake such reactions. And given how the 2nd post then walks it back a bit, might be two voices here, sharing an opinion on different levels of annoyance. Yeah, that could be it, because the tone of the 1st post does not really have any legs, it quickly changes into few ordinary pokes and questions. 2 people speaking, nothing too offensive, is early game and all. 1 fella speaking, might be a bit off. @Cruise Ship, did #173 and your following posts come from the same person?

Jet Ski is like a more vocal Galleon without as much attitude. I like. they be like cool and awesome and look at that subtle reference I made. them posts, I am reading.

Sub has had a reasonable start. Got the feeling that this might be a coordinated pair with a purpose, a NAI-to-very minor town purpose? Will observe.

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

Is that so?

That's not how you felt earlier. Or were you just joking there?

i think its fairly obvious that my partner was making a joke

i am also now making you aware that you are quoting two different people there so /shrug

 

[Giant Rubber Duck]

Ok, but why doesn’t the same principle that people play differently apply to houseboat’s concern about sun being too town read? I don’t fully get why that’s scummy

because instead of just asking specific people why they townread sub houseboat decided to generalize it and shame a group without hitting anyone specific

it was the "safest" way to do that without making a specific enemy

 

[Cruise Ship]

Cruise and Yacht were the same thing,

Cruise ships are bigger!

@Cruise Ship, did #173 and your following posts come from the same person?

All my posts come from cruise ship. Seriously, I think it’s more fun to play without distinguishing. We both have the same alignment (town) & the same role pm, so just think of us as one person.

Sub has had a reasonable start. Got the feeling that this might be a coordinated pair with a purpose, a NAI-to-very minor town purpose

What do you mean by “with a purpose?”