Puppet Mafia | Everyone's wearing socks

[Fozzie Bear]

Not my finest day end but I didn’t have the time to devote yesterday. In hindsight, the vote was too easy and people were making good points but I didn’t have the time to sit down and parse it like I should have but all in all, I think it was better than killing Kermit. Curious if Oscar is really saying he hid there but it doesn’t really matter. We’ll know today how much/little Kermit is lying anyway. I plan to be more present tomorrow so don’t expect hot takes from me tonight.

 

[Abby Cadabby]

Starting with lowest post players because I'm lazy. Elmo.

Okay, I had a few quotes and a bunch of thoughts up on their vote/unvote D1 between Headdy and Piggy, then I deleted a bunch because it was overly long and mostly came down to---Elmo's EoD1 play feels town. They vote Headdy and put it at 4/4, then quickly unvote 5 minutes before EoD, which puts Piggy in the lead. Scum would've been fine leaving a tie on the table to save scum.

Mer....But I've caught a mountain of shit before for placing a vote that left us tied with a larger gap than 5 minutes so maybe they'd be afraid to leave it.

Elmo doesn't love miss piggy's claim.

Vote: Miss Piggy

Elmo was one of the first to not just say they don't like Piggy's claim but actually put a vote down on it. Credit due there.

 

[Abby Cadabby]

You know what, sue me. Gonna read Jeff next since I've not paid much attention to them. Probably because out of all of us they have the most absolutely boring name in the world. Who cares what Jeff has to say when you can hear from a fucking muppet.

 

[Abby Cadabby]

Jeff:
Seems to have interest in Grogu going back to beginning of game.

Personally I think pair-hunting will be valuable to us so I don't like the way it is dismissed here.
Vote: Grogu

Votes Grogu because of Grogu's comment about pair-hunting.

Post #211 reads as Jeff annoyed at Pinocchio for backing down from being suspicious of Grogu for backing down after called out on Howdy. (that's a funny statement).

Says Mew's Headdy vote aged like milk.

When we're asked to do a PIK, Bert asks Grogu "Why wouldn't you protect me?" to which Grogu and Jeff both respond 28 minutes later on the dot with the same answer:

Because its a given we want to keep the mason alive. I dunno how insightful the P part of PIK is if everyone just says the mason

Saying only that you would protect the confirmed mason is a cop out

For note while we're here, Jeff's list:
P: Flip a coin between Bert and Kermit
I: Grogu or Mr. Mew
K: Miss Piggy

OKay, I have a monster headache and I've sidetracked my thoughts with my thoughts. Is there something odd between these two? You all ready for it????

Are Jeff and Grogu paired scum? Are their quote/replies with each other genuine? Does Jeff vote Grogu towards end of yesterday with 9 minutes to go to "start a new wagon" on scum he thinks isn't in any real danger? It'd be an impressive amount of foundation laid out if Grogu were to flip scum for Jeff to be able to show his work that he's been on Grogu's butt since D1, but now I'm reading his Grogu posts as not very serious and kinda weak...?

-Takes Hat Off-

 

[Abby Cadabby]

^To be clear, I'm not saying Jeff is scum either. I got quickly sidetracked with the thought that I'm not sure I buy the relationship from D1 between those two as real. And if it isn't real, what does that point to.

Sorry for long walls of texts. My goal is to put as much of my thoughts out there as they hit me in hopes that something lights a bulb for someone else.

 

[Bert]

I'm exhausted so I'll mostly observe today. Not a huge fan of yesterday's endgame but eh I'll concede that I'm not as sure Kermit is scum as I was yesterday.

I need to refresh my mind a bit.

 

[Abby Cadabby]

I'm exhausted so I'll mostly observe today. Not a huge fan of yesterday's endgame but eh I'll concede that I'm not as sure Kermit is scum as I was yesterday.

I need to refresh my mind a bit.

Yeah.....Starting back up on a Sunday after a long weekend, I'm pretty pooped myself. I'm hoping others show up, or no one shows up and we all just start tomorrow lol

 

[Jeff Tracy]

Tbh I still like the theory that Piggy jumped on her own grenade to save Mew who had been on the block until that point.

 

[Jeff Tracy]

Are Jeff and Grogu paired scum? Are their quote/replies with each other genuine? Does Jeff vote Grogu towards end of yesterday with 9 minutes to go to "start a new wagon" on scum he thinks isn't in any real danger? It'd be an impressive amount of foundation laid out if Grogu were to flip scum for Jeff to be able to show his work that he's been on Grogu's butt since D1, but now I'm reading his Grogu posts as not very serious and kinda weak...?

It's interesting that you are using an assumption that Grogu will flip as scum to cast suspicion back onto me.

 

[Jeff Tracy]

I also missed the post that Grogu was moving apartment which might explain their weaker day phase yesterday, I would like to see them post more to see where I am at. I think Triumph is someone who started weak yesterday but got stronger as the day went on.

 

[Lamb Chop]

I'll be honest, I expected Kutaru to be scum, surprised they flipped town. Hm, I still think Mr. Mew is scum(sure they think the same about me still)

 

[Pinocchio]

Kutaro flipping town was quite the damper to my enthusiasm, so I'm going to reevaluate my reads a bit.

I think Abby is first on the list of rereads, and next probably Jeff and Lamb

 

[Lamb Chop]

I've reread and I believe Grogu has more of a chance of being scum than Mr. Mew, haven't liked a single thing they said tbh.
Vote: Grogu

 

[Grogu]

Hello good morning town
Im finally moved in so i should be more available
Im really surprised we let kermit live tbh, i woulda thought that would be a slam dunk. Kutaro didn't seem scummy to me at all; its probably either kermit or mr. Mew for me today in terms of voting targets. If needed, ill probably claim today, but my info wont be super helpful unfortunately.

 

[Grogu]

I've reread and I believe Grogu has more of a chance of being scum than Mr. Mew, haven't liked a single thing they said tbh.
Vote: Grogu

When I flip town, who are you voting next?

 

[Lamb Chop]

When I flip town, who are you voting next?

I'm not one to set up consecutive flips, that's your job.

 

[Mr. Mew]

Hm, I still think Mr. Mew is scum(sure they think the same about me still)

Kutaro flipping town was quite the damper to my enthusiasm, so I'm going to reevaluate my reads a bit.

I think Abby is first on the list of rereads, and next probably Jeff and Lamb

I want to hear about Abby from you.

 

[Mr. Mew]

Players to write Kutaro as Kutaru

Howdy Doody
Pinocchio
Abby
Lamb Chop

 

[Mr. Mew]

When I flip town, who are you voting next?

I'm not one to set up consecutive flips, that's your job.

*nods* Now this I like

 

[Triumph the Comic Dog]

Jeff:
Seems to have interest in Grogu going back to beginning of game.
Votes Grogu because of Grogu's comment about pair-hunting.

Post #211 reads as Jeff annoyed at Pinocchio for backing down from being suspicious of Grogu for backing down after called out on Howdy. (that's a funny statement).

Says Mew's Headdy vote aged like milk.

When we're asked to do a PIK, Bert asks Grogu "Why wouldn't you protect me?" to which Grogu and Jeff both respond 28 minutes later on the dot with the same answer:




For note while we're here, Jeff's list:
P: Flip a coin between Bert and Kermit
I: Grogu or Mr. Mew
K: Miss Piggy

OKay, I have a monster headache and I've sidetracked my thoughts with my thoughts. Is there something odd between these two? You all ready for it????

Are Jeff and Grogu paired scum? Are their quote/replies with each other genuine? Does Jeff vote Grogu towards end of yesterday with 9 minutes to go to "start a new wagon" on scum he thinks isn't in any real danger? It'd be an impressive amount of foundation laid out if Grogu were to flip scum for Jeff to be able to show his work that he's been on Grogu's butt since D1, but now I'm reading his Grogu posts as not very serious and kinda weak...?

-Takes Hat Off-

From everthing you quoted here, I actually believe even less that Grogu and Jeff are the same account lol. Seems like too much risk to vote for each other, especially early in the game.

I honestly feel the Grogu vote from Jeff on D3 coming so last minute makes me scum read him more. As scum, he knows that both leaders are town (or Kermit is at the very least not scum). So votes away from that to not get scrutinized later on. Of course, I also voted off wagon but I know I'm towniest doggo ever so (plus I was earlier on the Grogu vote, and I was trying to get some reactions since both kermit and kutaro were largely uncontested)

 

[Jeff Tracy]

@Abby Cadabby where are you with Mew?

 

[Grogu]

I'm not one to set up consecutive flips, that's your job.

Then let me rephrase the question: when I flip town, who do you think looks more or less scummy as a result?

 

[Jeff Tracy]

I'm looking through Abby but it's a lot of fluff, not many concrete talking points.

-Puts on tinfoil hat-

This post makes me nervous now lol. "If Piggy flips town, let's make sure we flip Piggy voters next." If you're scum, you know Piggy vote is clean?

This is in response to Dynamite on day 1, it seems early to be thinking the Piggy vote is clean.

Home and catching up. I now feel dumb saying this:
After realizing the flip flatout says: "You know that your best bud, Bert, is a member of the Good Puppets." I assumed scum wouldn't take out a mason buddy they could feed lies to and gather info from, and completely missed that sentence in the flip.

Going back to our votes and who was on who:

The vote on Miss Piggy was:
Ernie - Town
Headdy - Town
Bert - Town
Charlie - ???

-I had Charlie as a town lean D1, but I also had Shang there too.
-We were tied with 4 (Piggy), 4 (Headdy). Oscar next closest with 3.
-If Piggy and Headdy are both town, and Charlie is scum, he wouldn't want to leave that a tie and lose out on a kill.
-If Piggy or Headdy was scum, Charlie had to choose between bussing or saving a scummate.
-Charlie hasn't said anything to send up red flags, but this post comes from Piggy after having said nothing about Charlie prior:

If Piggy winds up being scum, this makes Charlie look worse in my eyes. Feels like a last ditch save to muddy the waters and create distance.

Then early on day 2, this post looks like it could setup to tie Charlie to Piggy. Abby's post trying to work backwards to me from a scum Grogu felt similar to me, like they are putting the horse before the cart.

 

[Jeff Tracy]

Not sure why my off wagon vote yesterday is seen as sus, I had been pretty vocal about Kermit being very unlikely to be scum so the question became if we were on the right track with Kutaro or not.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

I'm voting Jeff Tracy or Grogu

Pinocchio is likely a vanilla too

@Kermit the Frog so who's dying today

Nobody
I still think Grogu is scum, I also don't like the backpedaling Fozzie has done.

 

[Grogu]

I don't think Jeff's vote on me from yesterday isnt inherently suspicious

 

[Grogu]

Is* inherently suspcious, sorry. I think it makes a level of sense

 

[Abby Cadabby]

Tbh I still like the theory that Piggy jumped on her own grenade to save Mew who had been on the block until that point.

@Abby Cadabby where are you with Mew?

I like the theory too until I think about Piggy seemingly trying to setup Fozzie for the fall. Mew brought this point up and yeah.....It's not a bad one.

From everthing you quoted here, I actually believe even less that Grogu and Jeff are the same account lol. Seems like too much risk to vote for each other, especially early in the game.

I honestly feel the Grogu vote from Jeff on D3 coming so last minute makes me scum read him more. As scum, he knows that both leaders are town (or Kermit is at the very least not scum). So votes away from that to not get scrutinized later on. Of course, I also voted off wagon but I know I'm towniest doggo ever so (plus I was earlier on the Grogu vote, and I was trying to get some reactions since both kermit and kutaro were largely uncontested)

Sorry, need to use my words more precisely when talking about teams, pairs, alts, whatever. It's all mushed into my brain. I wasn't meaning to say they were same player---just on same team.

It's interesting that you are using an assumption that Grogu will flip as scum to cast suspicion back onto me.

I verbal vomit in hopes I find something that lights a bulb for someone. So far, it seems to have done nothing so I'm probably going to quiet down and hang out. Goal is that if/when I die, someone can go back, look at my posts, and find something useful in there. There's always money in the banana stand.

And I still think there's something weird about you and Grogu but I don't know what.

 

[Abby Cadabby]

Is* inherently suspcious, sorry. I think it makes a level of sense

Where do you land overall with Jeff then?

 

[Grogu]

Where do you land overall with Jeff then?

Town leaning. Certainly not on my vote list today

 

[Elmo]

Not sure why my off wagon vote yesterday is seen as sus, I had been pretty vocal about Kermit being very unlikely to be scum so the question became if we were on the right track with Kutaro or not.

It's sus that you expressed doubt kutaro was scum but didn't engage with kutaro at all despite you both being around at eod and him directly replying to you.

Kind of like you knew he was going to flip town, get to give yourself kudos for not voting him when he does flip town but you weren't actually wanting any other wagon to take off.

 

[Elmo]

Town leaning. Certainly not on my vote list today

Who is?

 

[Grogu]

Who is?

I still don't trust Kermit, but it seems unlikely that other people will agree with me on a lynch today there. I think probably Mr. Mew is on my list today, as at this point I trust Oscar's claim and won't vote there. I also am starting to wonder if Fozzie is just really, really loud scum who is behaving the way they are in order to distance themselves as much as possible from whatever their pair is, but I still need to think on that more.

 

[Jeff Tracy]

It's sus that you expressed doubt kutaro was scum but didn't engage with kutaro at all despite you both being around at eod and him directly replying to you.

Kind of like you knew he was going to flip town, get to give yourself kudos for not voting him when he does flip town but you weren't actually wanting any other wagon to take off.

But what was there to engage Kutato about, they said they would join on Pinocchio, but the thread felt empty otherwise and they ended up not voting?

 

[Elmo]

But what was there to engage Kutato about, they said they would join on Pinocchio, but the thread felt empty otherwise and they ended up not voting?

You didn't even try to engage tho. Like absolutely no interest, why not say that to him instead of replying as if he wasn't there.

Was just really weird imo.

 

[Elmo]

In fact Vote: Jeff Tracy

 

[Kermit the Frog]

I don't know...I kind of don't see the Jeff thing?

 

[Mr. Mew]

You didn't even try to engage tho. Like absolutely no interest, why not say that to him instead of replying as if he wasn't there.
Was just really weird imo.

Let's look at yesterday. Kutaro appeared twelve minutes before we end. That's not a lot of time for talking.

Any takers for Pinocchio? It's lonely on here.
I'd break a close vote between Kermit and Kutaro by voting Kutaro because I don't think Kermit is ever scum. But Kutaro isn't doing a lot to ping me, they are quiet but I haven't had trouble following where they are in comparison to others.

I would join you as I've made it clear I think Pinnochio could be scum. But I feel like my only option is to vote Kermit. Though you've already said you'll vote Kermit's way so that feels pointless too.

Jeff voted Grogu. Kutaro posted:

So in that sense I'm not like a big loss and I fully understand why I'm in with the poe, but when I go just make sure to please look at players like Pinnochio or lamb chop or triumph. I bet anything one of them is scum.

Why aren't ppl outside of Jeff getting lumped in here with your engagement criticism.

 

[Abby Cadabby]

Town leaning. Certainly not on my vote list today

Hrm.

Hate to be stuck in my previous day's track, but I keep going back to Lamb or Triumph. And if my read hasn't evolved between days then I must be doing something wrong.

@Bert

Need your Town wisdom

 

[Bert]

Hrm.

Hate to be stuck in my previous day's track, but I keep going back to Lamb or Triumph. And if my read hasn't evolved between days then I must be doing something wrong.

@Bert

Need your Town wisdom

I got nothing to add. I'm enjoying myself right now and I really like others actually contributing instead of hiding between my feud with fozzie.

Keep going and I may be back when I have something.

 

[Randomless]

==== DAY 4 VOTES ====
Day Start

Jeff Tracy (3 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #1,089
Triumph the Comic Dog - #1,092
Elmo - #1,136

Grogu (1 votes)
Lamb Chop - #1,113

Not voting: Mr. Mew, Jeff Tracy, Kermit the Frog, Abby Cadabby, Fozzie Bear, Pinocchio, Bert, Grogu

Post Counts:
Triumph the Comic Dog: 12 Abby Cadabby: 11 Jeff Tracy: 8 Grogu: 7 Elmo: 4 Mr. Mew: 4 Lamb Chop: 3 Kermit the Frog: 2 Oscar the Grouch: 2 Bert: 2 Fozzie Bear: 1 Pinocchio: 1

Current Countdown:

Click here to go to the Vote Tool!

 

[Elmo]

Let's look at yesterday. Kutaro appeared twelve minutes before we end. That's not a lot of time for talking.


Jeff voted Grogu. Kutaro posted:

Why aren't ppl outside of Jeff getting lumped in here with your engagement criticism.

Because no one else was around. Pretty simple. They were the only two posting, kutaro literally replied to Jeff actively trying to engage and Jeff just ignored. It just makes his comments about kutaro feel fake and performative to me. Sure no one else being around means they probably couldn't have done anything about it but just ignoring kutaro was cold imo.

 

[Triumph the Comic Dog]

Well nobody else has croaked as it were so I'm quite confident Kermit is town at least

 

[Grogu]

Well nobody else has croaked as it were so I'm quite confident Kermit is town at least

I agree with your assessment, comical dog. I do wonder where good old fozzie bear went off to, though. Theyve been very quiet

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Seconding that it’s nice to see that no one died. Not sure why Kermit is shading me for stepping back on him though. My crimes this game to some people literally just amount to me not being pigheaded.

Anyway, I don’t feel the Jeff vote. He’s the loud logical voice in the room. That doesn’t make him automatically good at all but I usually need a good reason to vote that person and I don’t have that reason yet. He is a bit more of a wallflower so there is that but idk.

I still think Abby is town and I still think Mew is town. I’m actually stronger on Abby these days but Mew hasn’t left strong town category for me still.

I think Pinocchio and Grogu are my top picks but that’s more poe than anything. Honestly the poe is so tight at this point that I’d be shocked if we don’t hit scum.

Elmo and Triumph are more middling to me and honestly the more interesting thing to me is I think today is an important day for scum to get town and them latching onto Oscar’s vote to give it an early strong lead worries me.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I agree with your assessment, comical dog. I do wonder where good old fozzie bear went off to, though. Theyve been very quiet

Clearly I’m scheming in the background. I’ve been using a lot of energy this game and honestly didn’t have the mental fortitude to look in here today when I could have. I wanted to wait until possible poison time anyway so that was part of it. The other part is I wanted you all to talk because most of you have been hiding behind me and Bert.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Seconding that it’s nice to see that no one died. Not sure why Kermit is shading me for stepping back on him though. My crimes this game to some people literally just amount to me not being pigheaded.

Anyway, I don’t feel the Jeff vote. He’s the loud logical voice in the room. That doesn’t make him automatically good at all but I usually need a good reason to vote that person and I don’t have that reason yet. He is a bit more of a wallflower so there is that but idk.

I still think Abby is town and I still think Mew is town. I’m actually stronger on Abby these days but Mew hasn’t left strong town category for me still.

I think Pinocchio and Grogu are my top picks but that’s more poe than anything. Honestly the poe is so tight at this point that I’d be shocked if we don’t hit scum.

Elmo and Triumph are more middling to me and honestly the more interesting thing to me is I think today is an important day for scum to get town and them latching onto Oscar’s vote to give it an early strong lead worries me.

Oh right, Lamb Chop is so forgettable. All I have on that player is Mew doesn’t like them and he kind of complains a lot.

 

[Mr. Mew]

Because no one else was around. Pretty simple. They were the only two posting, kutaro literally replied to Jeff actively trying to engage and Jeff just ignored. It just makes his comments about kutaro feel fake and performative to me. Sure no one else being around means they probably couldn't have done anything about it but just ignoring kutaro was cold imo.

Pinocchio was around, but you can't assume others weren't around and watching too.

 

[Mr. Mew]

Oh right, Lamb Chop is so forgettable. All I have on that player is Mew doesn’t like them and he kind of complains a lot.

 

[Grogu]

Clearly I’m scheming in the background. I’ve been using a lot of energy this game and honestly didn’t have the mental fortitude to look in here today when I could have. I wanted to wait until possible poison time anyway so that was part of it. The other part is I wanted you all to talk because most of you have been hiding behind me and Bert.

Very true. I agree with your above poe logic, my reads list is weird as heck right now.

 

[Jeff Tracy]

You didn't even try to engage tho. Like absolutely no interest, why not say that to him instead of replying as if he wasn't there.

Was just really weird imo.

Well I wasn't trying to talk past anyone, but sometimes I do just split thoughts between multiple posts as they come to me, so Kutaro posting in between didn't make me want to change what I was already writing that much.

 

[Jeff Tracy]

And afaik I dipped in for those few posts and was getting pulled away again, I wasn't just sitting in silence as they were posting on their own those last 10 minutes.

 

[Jeff Tracy]

I'll be honest, I expected Kutaru to be scum, surprised they flipped town. Hm, I still think Mr. Mew is scum(sure they think the same about me still)

Kutaro flipping town was quite the damper to my enthusiasm, so I'm going to reevaluate my reads a bit.

I think Abby is first on the list of rereads, and next probably Jeff and Lamb

I'm not sure if these reactions from Lamb and Pinocchio line up with enthusiasm in their read on Kutaro prior to the flip?

 

[Jeff Tracy]

I still think Abby is town and I still think Mew is town. I’m actually stronger on Abby these days but Mew hasn’t left strong town category for me still.

I think Pinocchio and Grogu are my top picks but that’s more poe than anything. Honestly the poe is so tight at this point that I’d be shocked if we don’t hit scum.

Elmo and Triumph are more middling to me and honestly the more interesting thing to me is I think today is an important day for scum to get town and them latching onto Oscar’s vote to give it an early strong lead worries me.

What made Abby look better to you?

Elmo's annoyance at my day end looks genuine to me, if I had to guess it looks like a niche enough thing to get upset at that Elmo might just be the other half of Kutaro and therefore town.

 

[Lamb Chop]

I agree with your assessment, comical dog. I do wonder where good old fozzie bear went off to, though. Theyve been very quiet

Like, can we all agree this is a bad post?

 

[Bert]

Like, can we all agree this is a bad post?

Why

 

[Abby Cadabby]

Like, can we all agree this is a bad post?

Nopers. It's a big ole fluffy nothing post.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

What made Abby look better to you?

Elmo's annoyance at my day end looks genuine to me, if I had to guess it looks like a niche enough thing to get upset at that Elmo might just be the other half of Kutaro and therefore town.

Abby just seems like lost town to me. I said the same a couple days ago and I still feel the same now. Not saying he is Kutaro or anything but I see in Abby what you are saying you see in Elmo.

Like, can we all agree this is a bad post?

What makes it a bad post? This just sounds like you want to get a rise out of people.

 

[Lamb Chop]

Why

Grogu never trusted Kermit since minute 1, last day they voted them and 2 posts ago said they'd still be down for a vote, failing to mention that they'd view them as town if a kill doesn't happen. They also said they liked your ideas, and you had them for scum not neutral, if Kermit were scum it's unlikely they'd have a second kill anyway. Feels like they go where the wind blows imo.

 

[Pinocchio]

There's not really that much to work with from Abby from D1-3. It's a lot of commentary but not that much actual reads, so it's hard for me to really conclude where his head was at at the time. The day 2 vote was a prod vote turned actual vote. D3 he first voted Triumph based on the believe that it was the second account of Piggy, but without much reasoning otherwise. This vote then changed to Kermit when Triumph didn't take off, citing Fozzies arguments as the reasoning. At the time Kermit was in the lead with 3 votes followed by Kutaro with 2 and a bunch of wagons at 1 vote.
All in all it reads more like commentary from the sidelines at times, but I've actually been liking his more active role today. For the moment I'll put him into "could vote, but maybe not today" territory.

Let me read up on Jeff, to see what this wagon is all about.

 

[Grogu]

Grogu never trusted Kermit since minute 1, last day they voted them and 2 posts ago said they'd still be down for a vote, failing to mention that they'd view them as town if a kill doesn't happen. They also said they liked your ideas, and you had them for scum not neutral, if Kermit were scum it's unlikely they'd have a second kill anyway. Feels like they go where the wind blows imo.

A person not dying from poison today has helped ease my mind on kermit; additionally, i dont have the energy or the backing to go hard on Kermit anyway. I think it would be a monumental task for me, and I think finding scum elsewhere probably makes sense

 

[Lamb Chop]

Just me I guess

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Good morning @Kermit the Frog I’m glad you didn’t lie about poisoning another person.

I feel terrible after yesterday’s debacle. Just destroyed

 

[Triumph the Comic Dog]

Just me I guess

Ahhh Lamb Chop...just a lone sheep wandering the fields. You better not be a wolf in disguise AHAHAHAH

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Where is everyone? If we have six scum, and voted out one. And with two deaths tonight that would leave 5 scum left.

today could be MYLO!?!?!?

 

[Triumph the Comic Dog]

We're talking about POE a lot, but I still see players off of people's lists. So here's mine:

Fozzie Bear: 189 - unconfirmed, but likely not scum due to Miss Piggy's strong reactio on D2. I don't really see that as a last minute bus, more like a vote for survival
Bert: 189 - confirmed town through masons
Abby Cadabby: 94 - unconfirmed
Kermit the Frog: 70 - likely a town poisoner (still think that's a ridiculously hilarious role)
Grogu: 62 - unconfirmed
Oscar the Grouch: 59 - claimed town hider
Mr. Mew: 58 - unconfirmed
Jeff Tracy: 56 - unconfirmed
Pinocchio: 38 - unconfirmed
Lamb Chop: 36 - unconfirmed
Elmo: 25 - unconfirmed

More detials to come

 

[Mr. Mew]

Like, can we all agree this is a bad post?

Catching a big side eye from me that this post of yours is throwing shade at a player who looks to be a contender for the vote today.

Vote: Lamb Chop

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

Alright, here’s where we are at. Jeff Tracy is town. I think Jeff’s other puppet was Kutaro.
I am out of shots.

I also think that either Triumph or Elmo are scum. Unlikely both, but both want to jump on an early vote I made to try and lead us to a miss-vote today.

based on this assumption I have reread both. Triumph is more “present” while Elmo is more “distant”. I don’t think they are both the same player.

But I come to post about another person.

vote: Grogu
Grogu is Miss piggy’s alt scum puppet.

Grogu literally never interacted with Miss piggy during the game except to vote on her when the claim happened. They never posted at the same time, except the posted sequentially some posts by Grogu then by Miss piggy then back to Grogu (especially when the vote shifted after Kermit role claimed).

I originally thought Elmo and miss piggy might be alts (due to RPing, but I the evidence of Grogu being miss piggy is undeniable)

if Grogu is the alt of miss piggy then it stands to reason that Grogu should be scum as well.

 

[Pinocchio]

I was about to ask what the case against Jeff was, because he was one of the first to push for Miss Piggy and I've generally agreed with his other assessments. But I guess that question just got answered.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Good morning @Kermit the Frog I’m glad you didn’t lie about poisoning another person.

I feel terrible after yesterday’s debacle. Just destroyed

It's ok, I shouldn't have said some stuff. I let myself get carried away, let's win yeah?

Catching a big side eye from me that this post of yours is throwing shade at a player who looks to be a contender for the vote today.

Vote: Lamb Chop

I don't see that as a bad thing honestly? It's not like we're being flooded with posts or anything

 

[Kermit the Frog]

vote: Grogu
Grogu is Miss piggy’s alt scum puppet.

Grogu literally never interacted with Miss piggy during the game except to vote on her when the claim happened. They never posted at the same time, except the posted sequentially some posts by Grogu then by Miss piggy then back to Grogu (especially when the vote shifted after Kermit role claimed).

I originally thought Elmo and miss piggy might be alts (due to RPing, but I the evidence of Grogu being miss piggy is undeniable)

if Grogu is the alt of miss piggy then it stands to reason that Grogu should be scum as well.

Pretty good detective work there. Only thing I want to add is that Grogu almostn ever added "." at the end of their posts, Miss Piggy is 50/50 with that. Could be something consiously done of course.

 

[Pinocchio]

Quick math: If there's 5 Scum alive they would need two Town on a wagon to be able to hammer. If Oscar and Jeff are Town, then both Elmo and Triumph are likely Scum because otherwise the Scum team would have had ample time to jump onto that train. Though personally I believe we're dealing with a smaller Scum team, considering the anti Town neutral we've already encountered and lack of power roles so far.

 

[Lamb Chop]

Catching a big side eye from me that this post of yours is throwing shade at a player who looks to be a contender for the vote today.

Vote: Lamb Chop

Am I supposed to not give a case to the person I suspect or what?

 

[Triumph the Comic Dog]

I've been wrong before. And this Jeff Tracy train seems to be too easy. I'd like to see grogu flip, as I've mentioned before

VOTE: Grogu

 

[Triumph the Comic Dog]

If there's 5 scum alive, we should all role claim now as we might be in mylo

I'm vanilla

 

[Triumph the Comic Dog]

It must be a small scum team, 4 accounts so 3 alive now

 

[Grogu]

I'll claim. 2 shot tracker, used a shot on N2 on Triumph and was told they didn't move. In hindsight, I wish I had used a shot last night as well, but I wasn't sure who I wanted to track and let analysis paralysis get to me. With that in mind,
Vote: Mr. Mew
This is where I think scum is currently.

 

[Lamb Chop]

I'll claim. 2 shot tracker, used a shot on N2 on Triumph and was told they didn't move. In hindsight, I wish I had used a shot last night as well, but I wasn't sure who I wanted to track and let analysis paralysis get to me. With that in mind,
Vote: Mr. Mew
This is where I think scum is currently.

Not using a shot on N1 when the most actions happen makes this claim false imo, coupled with the fact that this comes RIGHT after Triump claims vanilla is extremely convenient. This has to he a scum claim voting for a scummate.

 

[Lamb Chop]

If there's 5 scum alive, we should all role claim now as we might be in mylo

I'm vanilla

Vanilla as well

 

[Jeff Tracy]

Sorry my internet is acting up today, hoping it doesn't last too much longer. I am Vanilla as well.
I think 6 scum is likely to be too high, or at the least that 5 alive scum would have been more greedy in getting a 2nd misvote down on me.
I'll try to look at Grogu being paired with Piggy, I'm not sold on the lack of interaction alone, because from what I recall Piggy didn't interact with a lot of the roster.

 

[Mr. Mew]

It must be a small scum team, 4 accounts so 3 alive now

This is the answer. So why are ppl claiming.

 

[Jeff Tracy]

I'm annoyed that Mew is too short to use in the search tool so I can't see mentions of Mr. Mew by Grogu.

 

[Grogu]

Not using a shot on N1 when the most actions happen makes this claim false imo, coupled with the fact that this comes RIGHT after Triump claims vanilla is extremely convenient. This has to he a scum claim voting for a scummate.

I don't like using shots on n1 because I have literally no idea whos who and like to get more info, especially in a costume game like this. The inactivity of d1 also didn't help.

 

[Lamb Chop]

I don't like using shots on n1 because I have literally no idea whos who and like to get more info, especially in a costume game like this. The inactivity of d1 also didn't help.

Why does it matter who's who? You don't need to catch scum, any info is good info. I'm not convinced at all.

 

[Jeff Tracy]

P: Abby Kadabby
I: Triumph
K: split between oscar and mr. Mew

@Abby Cadabby i could see triumph being piggy's 2nd account, but im not sure. I looked into it as best i could with what i had and wasnt able to confirm or deny that theory

Checking Triumph does line up with Grogu's PIK list for day 2, and this other post could be a crumb, but it's not very direct and comes after their initial post for the day.
Idk the mix of not using shots and not bringing any new info doesn't feel great.

 

[Grogu]

Not using a shot on N1 when the most actions happen makes this claim false imo, coupled with the fact that this comes RIGHT after Triump claims vanilla is extremely convenient. This has to he a scum claim voting for a scummate.

Ah yes, totally me and triumph are scum teammates after I voted off-wagon for him d1 and kept the heat on d2. Love it.
@Jeff Tracy it was indeed a crumb, didn't want to be *too* obvious. But honestly scum kills at night have been weird, i dont really know why they are targeting who they are

 

[Kermit the Frog]

I'll claim. 2 shot tracker, used a shot on N2 on Triumph and was told they didn't move. In hindsight, I wish I had used a shot last night as well, but I wasn't sure who I wanted to track and let analysis paralysis get to me. With that in mind,
Vote: Mr. Mew
This is where I think scum is currently.

This might be the most convenient claim I've ever seen in my short mafia career.

 

[Mr. Mew]

Claim is convenient and hinges on us not wanting to lose a second tracking shot.

I buy it

 

[Grogu]

Claim is convenient and hinges on us not wanting to lose a second tracking shot.

I buy it

I might be dead tonight anyway unless i get protected now, unfortunately

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

I'll claim. 2 shot tracker, used a shot on N2 on Triumph and was told they didn't move. In hindsight, I wish I had used a shot last night as well, but I wasn't sure who I wanted to track and let analysis paralysis get to me. With that in mind,
Vote: Mr. Mew
This is where I think scum is currently.

Why on earth would you not use a shot night 1? It’s practically a smorgasbord of movement most games.

My vote is parked right where it needs to be. So to put bluntly

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

It must be a small scum team, 4 accounts so 3 alive now

We don’t know that. It is still technically possible to have 5 remaining scum (though that would be practically insane and likely have three goons and three power roles total for scum team)

 

[Kermit the Frog]

If it was a 10 player game 3 scum team sounds a bit much, however Random might've thought that detective work might make it easier to locate the 2nd accounts and thus added a 3rd scum player.

 

[Randomless]

==== DAY 4 VOTES ====
Day Start

Grogu (3 votes)
Lamb Chop - #1,113
Oscar the Grouch - #1,168
Triumph the Comic Dog - #1,174

Jeff Tracy (1 votes)
Oscar the Grouch - #1,089 #1,168
Triumph the Comic Dog - #1,092 #1,174
Elmo - #1,136

Mr. Mew (1 votes)
Grogu - #1,177

Lamb Chop (1 votes)
Mr. Mew - #1,167

Not voting: Jeff Tracy, Kermit the Frog, Abby Cadabby, Fozzie Bear, Pinocchio, Bert

Post Counts:
Triumph the Comic Dog: 18 Jeff Tracy: 15 Grogu: 14 Abby Cadabby: 12 Lamb Chop: 10 Mr. Mew: 9 Oscar the Grouch: 7 Kermit the Frog: 6 Elmo: 5 Fozzie Bear: 5 Pinocchio: 4 Bert: 3

Current Countdown:

Click here to go to the Vote Tool!

 

[Jeff Tracy]

I think it's ok if the remaining players don't wish to claim, I think we've got something here with Grogu.
Vote: Grogu

There's also likely scum between Abby and Pinocchio, because they share a wagon day 1 with no scum on Piggy and Piggy as the only scum on Howdy.

 

[Grogu]

Why on earth would you not use a shot night 1? It’s practically a smorgasbord of movement most games.

My vote is parked right where it needs to be. So to put bluntly

Costume games are hard is my defense. It looks like I'm probably going down today, so I'll do my best to contribute before i am lunched

 

[Bert]

I'll claim. 2 shot tracker, used a shot on N2 on Triumph and was told they didn't move. In hindsight, I wish I had used a shot last night as well, but I wasn't sure who I wanted to track and let analysis paralysis get to me. With that in mind,
Vote: Mr. Mew
This is where I think scum is currently.

What a coincidence you claim tracker immediately after dog claims vanilla and haven't used the other shot.

 

[Triumph the Comic Dog]

Costume games are hard is my defense. It looks like I'm probably going down today, so I'll do my best to contribute before i am lunched

I agree. especially when there are two accounts...but it is fun!

 

[Triumph the Comic Dog]

Sorry my internet is acting up today, hoping it doesn't last too much longer. I am Vanilla as well.
I think 6 scum is likely to be too high, or at the least that 5 alive scum would have been more greedy in getting a 2nd misvote down on me.
I'll try to look at Grogu being paired with Piggy, I'm not sold on the lack of interaction alone, because from what I recall Piggy didn't interact with a lot of the roster.

OR OR there was no hammering because you are scum lol

 

[Oscar the Grouch]

If it was a 10 player game 3 scum team sounds a bit much, however Random might've thought that detective work might make it easier to locate the 2nd accounts and thus added a 3rd scum player.

Yeah this is why I’m considering today Mylo. It is unlikely but possible.

 

[Abby Cadabby]

Checking Triumph does line up with Grogu's PIK list for day 2, and this other post could be a crumb, but it's not very direct and comes after their initial post for the day.
Idk the mix of not using shots and not bringing any new info doesn't feel great.

I like to think scum was caught, but you all still think it's Grogu after what Jeff posted from Grogu's crumbing?