melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
feels like a repeat of before.
RPG Mafia - Secret Chrono Fantasy Trail CIXVI
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Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
this is legit my second strongest scum read in the game i can't
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I took no real offense.
I also agree that chuggs is more informational flip of the two.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
She's becoming mine too :)
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
literally anyone else come live post with me i am losing my mind
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Chuggs I am just disappointed that you said you were gonna show me how it was done and apply some pressure and sneeks seems anything but pressured rn
And I'm left to wonder why ....
And I'm left to wonder why ....
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Melon I cannot sit down and make Neeks post this is absurd
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Where did I say this?
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I don't understand this reference.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Then I really don't get what you're wanting here. I'm going to step away for a bit
Sawneeks
little green dog
Chuggs the majority of this day has been the Ty discussion. I have to go through that to get reads on them lol. and i hate to break it to you but the reads are being colored by that 'slip' talk.
if this helps, this is what i have so far;
Fran; I liked his immediate call out that HP and Ty probably aren't partners. He didn't take much of a stance on Ty being scum or not from his words but he did drop it pretty quick after Ty's return. I'd have to see how he's followed up (if that) but I wouldn't kill him today.
Muffin; quiet and in the background but im not scumreading that for some reason. feels like he's just chilling. if he keeps doing this into Day 2 or 3 I'd push more
Turms; at first i didnt like him because he was one of the first to shade Ty and suggest he was scum for a 'slip' but then didn't do much with it. if i'm correct on Ty being not-scum then a scum!turm can easily dangle this out to the masses and see if anyone bites in order to push it. but after Ty's response he drops it immediately and he made a post I weirdly really town read. don't have it on me but it's where he points out that scum might be liking this Ty talk since it's consumed everything. i actually think i'd keep him around.
HP; outside of my fireblend gut read, i think HP is my strongest town read imo. He brings Ty back into the light but in a way that feels very genuine and that he wanted to know what was going on there. I don't think Scum does that on D1 (as opposed to Turm, who slyly pushes it after HP) and his posts seem fine. would not kill today.
Nat: big ol' nothing. He posts during the Ty thing and comments on it but gives zero read. just notes it happening. I'd kill him today.
would not kill: Fran, Muffin, Turm, HP
would kill; Nat
I’m fully on board the Chuggs is town train and think it’s a horrible Day 1 kill. You don’t talk as much as he has been if you’re scum. Something will slip. No reason to vote him now because of how ingrained he is with the game already. If we flip him, it’s useless and we lose not only the leading contributor to the game BUT a potential indicator moving forward. If Chuggs decides to pare it back moving forward he’s sketch, if he decides to keep up the high post count…he will say something he shouldn’t if he’s scum. Do not kill Chuggs tonight.
Sawneeks
little green dog
chuggs just come over to my place and sit next to me until i post
that's because chuggs is actually good at Peak. unlike mafia
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Sneeks either post or she doesn't at this point. So far she's left the impression that doesn't she really seem bothered by your vote or your scum read of her and I don't see her as treating very seriously.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Stop with this timing >:(
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
That's harsh, ouch >_>
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
You asked me to vote for sneeks so you could apply pressure. Based on what I've witnessed tonight that hadn't happened and I'm trying find out if that's coming from sneeks side or you.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
vote: turm
I like this vote.
I like this vote.
Sawneeks
little green dog
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
That's absolutely not true.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Can you explain this reasoning?
Sure. Gonna reread the thread quick.
Note: This reads are for posts made before 11:00 PM CST.
Slight town read
Natiko - his post have been few. But he has been analyzing player behavior on this thread rather than relying too much on meta knowledge. It gives me a good feel.
Fireblend - hasn't posted as much as some of the others, but most of his serious posts feel like trying to feel out the game without being overtly rash, which is something that feels town to me for the moment.
Francomp - I do feel that he is playing actively and prodding people for questions and to talk about the game. Though I'm not sure I follow the scumNeeks logic.
melonrabbit - Has been fairly active and has pushed towards the Saw vote while at the same time being aggressive towards Chuggs. I do feel like they are town.
Neutral read
Chuggernaut - the most active player on the game, and the one that thus has the most reaction and engagement out. As I said before, this is NAI for me.
Sorian - Same as Chuggs. H is the most active and has many interactions with Chuggs. For what is worth, I don't see them being a team right now. This level of interaction would probably pull too much attention to them on day one and I don't think scum would try to do something like this.
Geno - Joined later during day 1 guns blazing and going straight for Ty's jugular. Seems to have locked in on flipping Ty and honestly, his reasoning seems similar to mine in that I don't really buy 100% the excuse for the slip. However, this is NAI for me atm.
Sawneeks - Started quiet and seemingly making catch up comments and now is analyzing more. Dunno; I have to read her posts with more care.
Alexem - Not much to say here. Has been somewhat active but most of his earlier posts were about experiences in other games and hismre recent posts are mostly seeing if a flip on ty gives them info on me. Could behonest town, could be trying to pocket bu I can't be sure on this one.
The Wizard - Mostly reading null from him. He has been mostly discussing and throwing ideas with Chuggs, prodding Sorian, Alex and em and defending Ty. I do not think that he is scum and his back and forth at least is making headway in the game.
HPSauce - Has posted regularly, but his posts give me nothing to generate an opinion. His gun post at the very least gave us something to talk about for a bit.
CaptainNuevo - rereading his posts, nothing really stood out to me save for possibly larping squall, which is mostly fluff. Perhaps leaning towards scum depending on how it develops.
NeutralGroup or neutral read:
Ty4on - For some reason I can't let this one go. Mostly going with my gut but I don't buy 100% the explanation. I might be totally wrong with this one though.
Slight scum read
TheWorthyEdge -Leaning towards slight scum read. It's not the fact that he has little posts, but that he hasn't said anything that is remotely analyzing the game save for repeating Sorian's statement on turm. This feels like coasting to me.
turmoil7 - So far seems like he is sheeping on some comments, so he gets a side-eye from me, but since it appears that in past games it has lead to nithing I'm willing to let this one be for now.
Muffin - Same as TWE. Pretty much has given nothing so far and has justified it in that it is his posting style for now.
Null. Haven't seen them enough to form an opinion on their behavior
malus
Zippedpinhead
nin1000
Null. Don't know what to make of him given the lack of activity and their randomness.
Blargonaut
It’s more true than it is false in my opinion. Plus you disregarded the rest of my post. Still don’t think it’s good to get rid of the most active person day 1. Feels more like targeting Chuggs for who he is than it is actual sound logic.
You can't both do the sam-
Oh ok, you've got it already, nevermind.
I'm not sure you understood my post or maybe I'm not understanding yours. I've already said that I think Chuggs is a bad flip today even if I believe he might still be scum. My thoughts on that are on the last page or just look at TWE's post on this page, same reasoning. I was saying I want Muffin to post more and be pressured so I can read Muffin's slot better.
Most engagement with the game is running through Chuggs right now. I don’t find it valuable to take that out of the game on Day 1. I also just…don’t think he’s scum.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Prehaps.
This is libel.
I want you to elaborate. The rest of your answers the last hour are just you being snarky. This is at least a vote even if there is no real reasoning included. Don't give me the softball answers either, I don't want a vague notion about him tunneling Ty or being hyper focused on the slip, show me the actual reactions you saw that you didn't like and why.
Do take into account that I started doing these reads over 2 hours ago. I still have to catch up with your more recent posts.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Did it? It was just standard memeing.
That said this felt more real that other read lists.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Feels accurate to me.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
But like yall gotta stop calling me town. I've worked very hard for this reputation.
Interesting.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I'll try to check in tomorrow morning before deadline. Still leaning towards scum being in chuggs, sneeks and HP group. Would also lean scum on TWE. Fran and neon I both sorta like. Sorian seems more towny than anything else at the moment.
idk what cap is doing but I'm interested to see where that goes on d2.
Everyone else is always sleep when I'm playing so really feels like we aren't in the same game which makes me sad.
I would like to hear more from nin and interested in what 4D chess blarg is playing with Amazon reviews.
idk what cap is doing but I'm interested to see where that goes on d2.
Everyone else is always sleep when I'm playing so really feels like we aren't in the same game which makes me sad.
I would like to hear more from nin and interested in what 4D chess blarg is playing with Amazon reviews.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
I'm not joking or being snarky with this when I say that sounds like a lot of mental work I'm not prepared to do right now, sorry.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Or is it libel to say that?
Wait saying is slander ...
Wait saying is slander ...
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Not sure I follow this logic. Sure Chuggs is the most talkative out of us all, but his output remains roughly the same if he is town or scum (from my very limited experience playing with him). So, while I don't think a Chuggs flip will be useful right now, I don't think that Chuggs will pare it back. If anything, he'll push it up.
Finally caught up. As of now I'm ambivalent on the whole Chuggs/Neeks thing. I'd like to see the discussion develop more.
My opinion on TWE hasn't changed. So for the time being.
VOTE: TheWorthyEdge
Give me something other than wagoning behind other already made points. What would be your actual reads.
BTW. I'll probably be busy with work tomorrow when EOD happens, I'll try to be active early morning, but I can't promise anything.
My opinion on TWE hasn't changed. So for the time being.
VOTE: TheWorthyEdge
Give me something other than wagoning behind other already made points. What would be your actual reads.
BTW. I'll probably be busy with work tomorrow when EOD happens, I'll try to be active early morning, but I can't promise anything.
Catching up, but I'm on mobile so responding to stuff from page 7 before I read 8.
You can keep it where you like. Anyhow, I'll get to it since I did miss that.
I didn't.
(If I were to shoot right now... I'd go someone who hasn't been as much a center of attention or discussion. I always find that's fun day 1. That said, I'm not sure my vote currently is in line with that. Thinking over... Nin is always a fun choice. Going off vibes, since mobile and all, what info would he give us? Most of his posts were from overnight whixh I skimmed. Need to reread)
Reading...?
(It's early game. I've never found the gall to commit especially this early.)
Interesting.
(Is this currently your pick for end of day then?)
You can keep it where you like. Anyhow, I'll get to it since I did miss that.
[Quistis more like]
I didn't.
(If I were to shoot right now... I'd go someone who hasn't been as much a center of attention or discussion. I always find that's fun day 1. That said, I'm not sure my vote currently is in line with that. Thinking over... Nin is always a fun choice. Going off vibes, since mobile and all, what info would he give us? Most of his posts were from overnight whixh I skimmed. Need to reread)
Reading...?
(It's early game. I've never found the gall to commit especially this early.)
Interesting.
(Is this currently your pick for end of day then?)
Sawneeks
little green dog
Okay, been going over stuff and taking notes. Here's what I got for a read list;
Would not be okay with killing today:
[Any] Sorian - UTC-6 - ‘earnest’ bafflement and vibe. NAI. He's good at being Town and being 'Town' when Scum. I feel like I see a bit of rust in his play (mostly when looking at the reasoning for focusing on the Ty talkers/sideliners) but it's hard for me to actually place. Weirdly I'm finding myself agreeing with him when he argues with Chuggs which is weird as fuck and I don't like it. Would not vote for him today but I would put him more in a 'lean town' camp.
[He/They] Fireblend|Febe - UTC-6 - off-the-cuff town vibes for his ‘didnt see the rules’ post at #150 and I still like it. His posts since then have diminished that a bit as I find I don't agree with his reads, especially regarding Turm. Still Town vibes
[He/They] Chuggernaut|Chuggs - UTC+6 - I keep going back and forth here (shocker). Reading over his stuff today he feels like he's just playing 'fast and loose' with posting. He did specifically mention changing his meta recently with MU and that could be what it is - that and his defensiveness when being scumread by pretty much anyone. I...don't know where to put him. I wouldn't kill him today because being wrong here would suck, but I keep finding myself on the opposite side of his arguments and it's strange. I'd love a check here imo.
[He/Him] Franconp|Fran - UTC-3 - I actually kinda like Fran rn. I think he's solving as he's playing and that's better than other players. Would not kill today but I'd still love some more.
[He/Him] Muffin - UTC+1 - call it a gut read but I think he's ok for now. would not kill today.
[He/Him] HPSauce - UTC+0 - Good town vibes. Called out the Ty stuff in a genuine way once it had died off and kept contributing. I'd have to look over the more recent stuff to get a better read on that but I don't have the time. Wouldn't kill today.
[They] melonrabbit|melon - UTC-8 - melon can do this thing where they post a lot as either alignment and keep the same tone. thing is, scum melon typically doesn't solve or follow up on stuff whereas town melon definitely does. so far i like the combativeness but they are a player that "time will tell" so i'm fine with keeping them around for now.
[He/Him] turmoil7|turm - UTC-3 - I said so earlier but he made a post about how "Ty could be scum and forgot town cant xp share" that is real low hanging fruit that Scum can toss out. Thing is, he kinda quickly drops his 'Ty might be scum' thing right after Ty's explination and just keeps going. He then throws out a post about how scum are liking the gamestate focusing on Ty that I actually do townread a lot because it was unprompted and felt genuine. I wouldn't kill him today tbh and I don't like some of the people voting for him.
Would be ok killing today:
[He/Him] Alexem - UTC+0 - One of the few who hasn't dropped Ty and has been consistent with it. He also falls into the camp of saying Ty's comment was a 'slip' but never initially voted there - in fact he left himself an out in his post for a while. It's only later on that he stuck to Ty and placed a vote there when it was Turm and Chuggs getting some votes (like 2 each i think). He also defends both of them in his vote. If I'm wrong on Turm or Chuggs IS scum, I'd look at Alexem. However, I still don't like his vibe so far. Very on the sidelines. I'd be fine killing him.
[He/Him] Natiko - UTC-5 - Sidelines as hell. Was around for the entire Ty thing but pretty much said "nah it's nothing" and ignored it. I don't get the Town reads people are giving him because he's null as best and slightly slightly scummy at worst.
[He/Him] TheWorthyEdge - UTC-7 - Another one where I don't understand the Town reads. He's coming in bold, but with no bark. He called Ty's post a 'slip' but didn't vote there. He did also drop it right after the explination I believe. I also dislike his Turm vote. Would be fine if he died.
[He/Him] Neon|NeonBorealis - UTC-6 - This one is WEIRD for me. I deeply dislike Neon's posts around Ty to start as they were basically textbook noncommital and he had to be pushed and prodded to get more out of him for reads. Once he did put down opinions and got himself out there he was better, but the initial hesitance and needing for a push just rubs me the wrong way. Would be fine if he died.
[He/Him] malus - UTC+1 - Bad vibes. Posted during the Ty stuff about XP sharing but nothing about Ty specifically. I also think the Turm vote is bad.
[He/Him] Zippedpinhead|Zipped - UTC-6 - Need to see more, but it's less substance than nin and that's a surprise.
[He/Him] The Wizard - UTC-5 - Him and Neon are sharing space in my brain as the same person. I usually really like Wizard too so it's odd to me. idk, I'd have to take a super dive into his stuff but I'd oddly not be against him dying? I don't think anyone has suspicions on him but he's just kinda there.
Neutral (aka would be fine killing but i dont think he's scum):
[He/Him] Ty4on|Ty - UTC+1 - His ‘Slip’ means he probably isn’t scum. Could be Neutral. Possible Town. His reads list is real bad tho and i still dont like how he didnt investigate those who focused on his 'slip'. (see; my big post)
God, idk;
[He/Him] CaptainNuevo|Captain - UTC+9 - Squall. I feel like I might be picking up what he's putting down now that I reread stuff but my goodness, please help solve. You're either lying just to keep living or there's something else and I worry this goes until Day 3 and we're back looking at you. If you're town, please make it more obvious.
[He/Him] Geno - UTC - Came in hot with a vote on Ty. That's Geno, it's NAI. I have to give him a Day or two to read him and see if he solves or just jumps at things.
[He/Him] Blargonaut - UTC+8 - Bro meme'd and then dipped. Give him a Day or two to start solving. If he doesn't? Kill him.
[He/Him] nin1000|nin - UTC+1 - Need to see more.
Top Town;
Fireblend, HP, Fran, Sorian > Turm > Chuggs?
Top Scum;
malus, Alexem, TWE = Neon = Wizard
Unvote
I need to pack for work tomorrow so let me think for a bit.
Would not be okay with killing today:
[Any] Sorian - UTC-6 - ‘earnest’ bafflement and vibe. NAI. He's good at being Town and being 'Town' when Scum. I feel like I see a bit of rust in his play (mostly when looking at the reasoning for focusing on the Ty talkers/sideliners) but it's hard for me to actually place. Weirdly I'm finding myself agreeing with him when he argues with Chuggs which is weird as fuck and I don't like it. Would not vote for him today but I would put him more in a 'lean town' camp.
[He/They] Fireblend|Febe - UTC-6 - off-the-cuff town vibes for his ‘didnt see the rules’ post at #150 and I still like it. His posts since then have diminished that a bit as I find I don't agree with his reads, especially regarding Turm. Still Town vibes
[He/They] Chuggernaut|Chuggs - UTC+6 - I keep going back and forth here (shocker). Reading over his stuff today he feels like he's just playing 'fast and loose' with posting. He did specifically mention changing his meta recently with MU and that could be what it is - that and his defensiveness when being scumread by pretty much anyone. I...don't know where to put him. I wouldn't kill him today because being wrong here would suck, but I keep finding myself on the opposite side of his arguments and it's strange. I'd love a check here imo.
[He/Him] Franconp|Fran - UTC-3 - I actually kinda like Fran rn. I think he's solving as he's playing and that's better than other players. Would not kill today but I'd still love some more.
[He/Him] Muffin - UTC+1 - call it a gut read but I think he's ok for now. would not kill today.
[He/Him] HPSauce - UTC+0 - Good town vibes. Called out the Ty stuff in a genuine way once it had died off and kept contributing. I'd have to look over the more recent stuff to get a better read on that but I don't have the time. Wouldn't kill today.
[They] melonrabbit|melon - UTC-8 - melon can do this thing where they post a lot as either alignment and keep the same tone. thing is, scum melon typically doesn't solve or follow up on stuff whereas town melon definitely does. so far i like the combativeness but they are a player that "time will tell" so i'm fine with keeping them around for now.
[He/Him] turmoil7|turm - UTC-3 - I said so earlier but he made a post about how "Ty could be scum and forgot town cant xp share" that is real low hanging fruit that Scum can toss out. Thing is, he kinda quickly drops his 'Ty might be scum' thing right after Ty's explination and just keeps going. He then throws out a post about how scum are liking the gamestate focusing on Ty that I actually do townread a lot because it was unprompted and felt genuine. I wouldn't kill him today tbh and I don't like some of the people voting for him.
Would be ok killing today:
[He/Him] Alexem - UTC+0 - One of the few who hasn't dropped Ty and has been consistent with it. He also falls into the camp of saying Ty's comment was a 'slip' but never initially voted there - in fact he left himself an out in his post for a while. It's only later on that he stuck to Ty and placed a vote there when it was Turm and Chuggs getting some votes (like 2 each i think). He also defends both of them in his vote. If I'm wrong on Turm or Chuggs IS scum, I'd look at Alexem. However, I still don't like his vibe so far. Very on the sidelines. I'd be fine killing him.
[He/Him] Natiko - UTC-5 - Sidelines as hell. Was around for the entire Ty thing but pretty much said "nah it's nothing" and ignored it. I don't get the Town reads people are giving him because he's null as best and slightly slightly scummy at worst.
[He/Him] TheWorthyEdge - UTC-7 - Another one where I don't understand the Town reads. He's coming in bold, but with no bark. He called Ty's post a 'slip' but didn't vote there. He did also drop it right after the explination I believe. I also dislike his Turm vote. Would be fine if he died.
[He/Him] Neon|NeonBorealis - UTC-6 - This one is WEIRD for me. I deeply dislike Neon's posts around Ty to start as they were basically textbook noncommital and he had to be pushed and prodded to get more out of him for reads. Once he did put down opinions and got himself out there he was better, but the initial hesitance and needing for a push just rubs me the wrong way. Would be fine if he died.
[He/Him] malus - UTC+1 - Bad vibes. Posted during the Ty stuff about XP sharing but nothing about Ty specifically. I also think the Turm vote is bad.
[He/Him] Zippedpinhead|Zipped - UTC-6 - Need to see more, but it's less substance than nin and that's a surprise.
[He/Him] The Wizard - UTC-5 - Him and Neon are sharing space in my brain as the same person. I usually really like Wizard too so it's odd to me. idk, I'd have to take a super dive into his stuff but I'd oddly not be against him dying? I don't think anyone has suspicions on him but he's just kinda there.
Neutral (aka would be fine killing but i dont think he's scum):
[He/Him] Ty4on|Ty - UTC+1 - His ‘Slip’ means he probably isn’t scum. Could be Neutral. Possible Town. His reads list is real bad tho and i still dont like how he didnt investigate those who focused on his 'slip'. (see; my big post)
God, idk;
[He/Him] CaptainNuevo|Captain - UTC+9 - Squall. I feel like I might be picking up what he's putting down now that I reread stuff but my goodness, please help solve. You're either lying just to keep living or there's something else and I worry this goes until Day 3 and we're back looking at you. If you're town, please make it more obvious.
[He/Him] Geno - UTC - Came in hot with a vote on Ty. That's Geno, it's NAI. I have to give him a Day or two to read him and see if he solves or just jumps at things.
[He/Him] Blargonaut - UTC+8 - Bro meme'd and then dipped. Give him a Day or two to start solving. If he doesn't? Kill him.
[He/Him] nin1000|nin - UTC+1 - Need to see more.
Top Town;
Fireblend, HP, Fran, Sorian > Turm > Chuggs?
Top Scum;
malus, Alexem, TWE = Neon = Wizard
Unvote
I need to pack for work tomorrow so let me think for a bit.
It is day 1.
(There is quite literally nothing to solve. All day 1 is ever good for and ever has been good for is farming interaction data. I'm playing exactly as I should given what I know on the state of the game.)
...?
(Blarg. I agree. He's always hard to read, but here in particular felt even less informative than usual. He claimed he was breadcrumbing, but it's unclear where the loaf ends up. I hope he posts more before I retire for the evening.)
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Again, I'm going to do my best to have a vote I feel pretty confident placed down before I sleep tonight. There's a decent chance I won't have time to fully revise and react on days end shenanigans, should they arise, since I'll be waking up like an hour before it's scheduled. That'll be the case going forward as well.
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malus
#1 official chartmaker
I don't think so, at least not consciously. I still try to be more active, write something up, second guess myself and delete again a lot.
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
Planning on it
Acknowledged.
Sawneeks
little green dog
@Sorian and i guess @Chuggernaut too but mostly Sorian.
You lamented earlier that too many people were being coy with Ty during the whole thing and I'm curious what you make of the people who did actually call Ty's post a 'slip' with confidence and didn't dance around it.
They are TWE, Alexem, and Geno. And only one of them made their post with a vote. Alexem made a vote after Geno did much later.
You lamented earlier that too many people were being coy with Ty during the whole thing and I'm curious what you make of the people who did actually call Ty's post a 'slip' with confidence and didn't dance around it.
They are TWE, Alexem, and Geno. And only one of them made their post with a vote. Alexem made a vote after Geno did much later.
Sawneeks
little green dog
i should've asked why you scum read me.
i also dont really get the group of me, chuggs, and HP. mostly me and chuggs in particular since i feel like we've talked today as opposed to me and HP. the only thing i did read of your opinion on me is that chuggs and i were fake fighting to not look like scummates? if you really believe that, what do you do when i flip town?
Sawneeks
little green dog
ngl, i'm also not a huge fan of the Geno vote. is it just vibes? what about turm and ty? i know you town lean on me and there are several one off votes (alexem, sorian, chuggs, TWE, i guess blarg) but he's still so random to go for.
malus
#1 official chartmaker
Still catching up but so far I really like this post:
On the other hand I don't like this post:
Feels like genuine investigation.
On the other hand I don't like this post:
Insinuating role fishing from obvious joke posts, I don't know. Feels like trying to manufacture content.
Sawneeks
little green dog
ugh, i have to sleep and i dont really know where to put a vote. i know by the time i can maybe catch up there will have been a lot of discussion/responses i dont know if i can get to.
like, Ty is there. I don't think he's scum but he might be Neutral. Like i kinda really think he is. we have to get him out eventually but i feel like if he flips neutral Day 1 we just dont get anything outside of a dead neutral and maybe some looks at those who voted for him early. I /guess/ I can vote there but it feels boring and I'd rather have movement/discussion going from votes than just walking into it.
Turm i dont think so, Sorian/Chuggs is a no from me today. Muffin I still think /vibes/ says a push there goes nowhere. Geno/Blarg are both nothing.
Funny enough, I'm leaning Alexem even though my Neutral guess is there. TWE is also on that list as it would give me a better read on Neon too but I'd feel better voting there if I had time to iso TWE properly and get a full look vs what i remember.
like, Ty is there. I don't think he's scum but he might be Neutral. Like i kinda really think he is. we have to get him out eventually but i feel like if he flips neutral Day 1 we just dont get anything outside of a dead neutral and maybe some looks at those who voted for him early. I /guess/ I can vote there but it feels boring and I'd rather have movement/discussion going from votes than just walking into it.
Turm i dont think so, Sorian/Chuggs is a no from me today. Muffin I still think /vibes/ says a push there goes nowhere. Geno/Blarg are both nothing.
Funny enough, I'm leaning Alexem even though my Neutral guess is there. TWE is also on that list as it would give me a better read on Neon too but I'd feel better voting there if I had time to iso TWE properly and get a full look vs what i remember.
malus
#1 official chartmaker
This vote feels Towny af.
Almost no build up, shooting from the hip with flimsy reasoning. I like it.
Sawneeks
little green dog
malus is there too i guess, but i was looking at who has votes. he was one of the few who posted during the whole Ty thing and commented around it but never directly at it. Nat did the same thing I believe. but malus feels boring even though i'm unsure there.
blegh
Vote: Alexem
For the odd read of Ty's 'slip' where he pretty much called it a slip and didn't see it as Town but didn't immediately vote there until later, aka after Geno had voted there. Also not much else of substance that tells me he is solving the game.
blegh
Vote: Alexem
For the odd read of Ty's 'slip' where he pretty much called it a slip and didn't see it as Town but didn't immediately vote there until later, aka after Geno had voted there. Also not much else of substance that tells me he is solving the game.
Sawneeks
little green dog
how does not Ty but yes to Turm resolve anything?
malus
#1 official chartmaker
Sawneeks' recent posts feel like the genuine frustration I get when I put in some work into my reads and people still tell me I should put more work into my reads.
This is a bit meta, but I've cooled down a bit on my Turm Scum read because he's been the default D1 vote in almost every game I've seen him in.
I would like to get some more pressure here instead:
vote: CaptainNuevo
This is a bit meta, but I've cooled down a bit on my Turm Scum read because he's been the default D1 vote in almost every game I've seen him in.
I would like to get some more pressure here instead:
vote: CaptainNuevo
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
Reading around the room:
- I generally feel OK with the higher posters at the moment - Chuggs, Sorian, Melon and Sneeks all feel to me as though they're working on advancing the game. Can't rule out the possibility of there being a meanie in the mix, but I don't think I could confidently point the finger at any of them for that.
- I feel as though I'm on the same wavelength as Fran and HP at the moment. Could be confirmation bias, but it does give me a positive feeling about them.
- Turmoil and Febe I'm more null on. I don't think I'd be on board with booting out either today, as neither have set off any big alarms for me so far, but they've not stuck in my mind as much as others.
- Wizard feels OK, I get that our reasoning's different but I felt that when he was questioning me over my thoughts on Ty it came from an earnest place. I could put Nat here too, although I'd like to hear more from his direction in general.
- Ty and Neon I've already discussed at length, so I think my opinion's clear there - I'd like to resolve the Ty situation somehow and I don't think the two are scum mates.
- Geno and Muffin have popped in here and there, I don't really have any solid feelings on either. (No offence taken at Muffin being up for shooting me D1, even I get frustrated with how I am in early phases.)
- Worthy's a trickier one. I get that people haven't got much from his posts, but I get the feeling he feels the same way about D1 as I do. My gut says frustrated townie more than meanie.
- Cap is very much a solid null read for me. The Squall stuff's neither here nor there, but I'm not really sure how he feels about anything.
- Blarg is Blarg. He usually talks sense when it comes to the crunch, though, so I'm hoping he has more to say today.
- That leaves Nin, Malus and Zipped. I thought Nin looked OK early on, but he's gone quiet since. Malus has popped up occasionally and I see he's just checked in, so I don't think I've got anything too concrete to tie to him now - I wasn't keen on the Turmoil vote, but I can see the sense in pressuring Cap, just as long as that's not for the sake of abandoning a wagon that's not taken off. Zipped left a impression on me of looking engaged right at the start, but that doesn't tie up with his activity or the contents of those posts. Could be trying to fly low, but it could also be IRL limitations - either way, though, if he stays in the game, he needs to speak up more.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Hang on
Ok, I did misread that, but I still don't feel great about it. I just don't empathize with expecting Chuggs to completely ignore a vote on him.
HPSauce
Wait, I was right? Fuck
Your reason for scum reading me is primarily based on the fact that Chuggs interjected into a conversation I was having with Neon is that fair to say?
Why would Chuggs involve himself in that conversation if we were scum together? That makes little to no sense to me.
Woke up and read, I'm liking Sneeks more now, feels like she's trying and I don't see it being performative like others are saying. On the other hand melon's posts do feel fake, like yeah a lot of posting but a lot of nothing, I'm not a big fan of their reasoning for the Chuggs vote either
I also don't like the Muffin vote on me and not because it's me but because it feels like trying to play but not wanting to so he throws a vote randomly.
, then later he votes for me, Sorian asks for him to elaborate and Muffin says nah.
Says Chuggs is defensive for D1, Chuggs asks him, ok what about the other 19. He says he doesn't know
, then later he votes for me, Sorian asks for him to elaborate and Muffin says nah.
Franconp
Frank
I think I feel a bit better about Sneeks. Not a lot much because I feel that she had to be pushed to participated in the game but I don't think she would be in a "would lynch today" list. I think she would be in a "I don't know. Review later" kinda spot.
On the other side I feel worse about Muffin. He was also being pressed for some work and he still didn't do much. Very low under the radar. I also don't like how when he said who would he shoot he went for the meta angle instead of focusing on what's going on here. It's the easy answer to give (and it also bothers me because I was one of the targets). I would move him to scum and I could vote for him today.
I'm surprised that Capt just has an only vote right now. Let's put him into contention and see if we can get something from that spot:
vote: CaptainNuevo
@CaptainNuevo I agree that D1 are hard but there was a lot of talking today. You must have at least some feelings on people. Share them with us to see where you are at.
On the other side I feel worse about Muffin. He was also being pressed for some work and he still didn't do much. Very low under the radar. I also don't like how when he said who would he shoot he went for the meta angle instead of focusing on what's going on here. It's the easy answer to give (and it also bothers me because I was one of the targets). I would move him to scum and I could vote for him today.
I'm surprised that Capt just has an only vote right now. Let's put him into contention and see if we can get something from that spot:
vote: CaptainNuevo
@CaptainNuevo I agree that D1 are hard but there was a lot of talking today. You must have at least some feelings on people. Share them with us to see where you are at.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Sorry y’all for the lack of posting.
im really struggling to read the game over the past 48 hrs. Just coincidence of travel and work honestly.
I don’t think sneeks is scum. I don’t think there is enough to determine for Ty or Neon today. I completely get wanting to look at coasters, If the roles were reversed I would want more from me too.
im really struggling to read the game over the past 48 hrs. Just coincidence of travel and work honestly.
I don’t think sneeks is scum. I don’t think there is enough to determine for Ty or Neon today. I completely get wanting to look at coasters, If the roles were reversed I would want more from me too.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
In truth, I want to no vote, which I don’t think I have done since WDIOTL, but I know that is not how this process works.
Franconp
Frank
Rereading 3 of my nulls spots that posted while sleeping: TWE, Malus and Neon
TWE: I kind of like TWE. I liked some posts where he makes an stance and call things out. Not enough to be in a town lean pile but he can be in a "mayyyybe town" pile for me.
Malus: I don't know. I think the last 3 posts that he made were his best ones (where he actually put some reads and original thoughs in the open) so maybe he is starting to put some work and we can get some good post there. Before that I was not much impressed. I think that I would put him with Sneeks in a "don't lynch today. Review later".
Neon: I don't dislike his read list but I also don't really like it. Does that make sense? I agree with some players but I have a different opinion on others. A bit of wishy washy reads on some players (like Turm's scum read or putting Captain as null but maybe scum). I think he still stay in null for me. I don't think that is a good vote today anyways.
TWE: I kind of like TWE. I liked some posts where he makes an stance and call things out. Not enough to be in a town lean pile but he can be in a "mayyyybe town" pile for me.
Malus: I don't know. I think the last 3 posts that he made were his best ones (where he actually put some reads and original thoughs in the open) so maybe he is starting to put some work and we can get some good post there. Before that I was not much impressed. I think that I would put him with Sneeks in a "don't lynch today. Review later".
Neon: I don't dislike his read list but I also don't really like it. Does that make sense? I agree with some players but I have a different opinion on others. A bit of wishy washy reads on some players (like Turm's scum read or putting Captain as null but maybe scum). I think he still stay in null for me. I don't think that is a good vote today anyways.
Franconp
Frank
As I said before No vote is a extra bad result today as besides not getting any flip and vote totals today we also don't gain xp so town would be unable to use any ability tonight.
I don't care much about you looking at coasters (but that's just my opinion and do it anyway if you want) but I would love to reads how you feel about Chuggs, Sorian, Captain, Turm and Alexem if you can, please. Give some some reads where the meat of the game is right now.
malus
#1 official chartmaker
I mean, the Turmoil wagon was literally in the lead at that time...
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start
Ty4on (3 votes)
HPSauce - #345
Geno - #402
Alexem - #448
turmoil7 (3 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #36
Fireblend - #384
malus - #416 #759
TheWorthyEdge - #720
Alexem (2 votes)
Ty4on - #548
Sawneeks - #756
CaptainNuevo (2 votes)
Sawneeks - #624 #745
malus - #759
Franconp - #765
Sawneeks (2 votes)
melonrabbit - #671
Chuggernaut - #678
Sorian (1 votes)
The Wizard - #475
Chuggernaut (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #169
Sorian - #377 #660
melonrabbit - #626 #671
Muffin (1 votes)
Sorian - #660
TheWorthyEdge (1 votes)
Neon - #743
Geno (1 votes)
Muffin - #691
Blargonaut (1 votes)
Blargonaut - #587
Neon (0 votes)
Chuggernaut - #240 #678
Fireblend (0 votes)
Natiko - #378 #453
Not voting: Natiko, Zippedpinhead, nin1000
Post Counts:
Chuggernaut: 140 melonrabbit: 124 Sorian: 79 Sawneeks: 67 Franconp: 59 HPSauce: 50 Ty4on: 49 CaptainNuevo: 46 Muffin: 36 nin1000: 36 Fireblend: 29 turmoil7: 29 The Wizard: 28 Blargonaut: 28 Neon: 27 Alexem: 25 Geno: 22 TheWorthyEdge: 19 Natiko: 13 malus: 13 Zippedpinhead: 7
Current Countdown:
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Day Start
Ty4on (3 votes)
HPSauce - #345
Geno - #402
Alexem - #448
turmoil7 (3 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #36
Fireblend - #384
TheWorthyEdge - #720
Alexem (2 votes)
Ty4on - #548
Sawneeks - #756
CaptainNuevo (2 votes)
malus - #759
Franconp - #765
Sawneeks (2 votes)
melonrabbit - #671
Chuggernaut - #678
Sorian (1 votes)
The Wizard - #475
Chuggernaut (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #169
Muffin (1 votes)
Sorian - #660
TheWorthyEdge (1 votes)
Neon - #743
Geno (1 votes)
Muffin - #691
Blargonaut (1 votes)
Blargonaut - #587
Neon (0 votes)
Fireblend (0 votes)
Not voting: Natiko, Zippedpinhead, nin1000
Post Counts:
Chuggernaut: 140 melonrabbit: 124 Sorian: 79 Sawneeks: 67 Franconp: 59 HPSauce: 50 Ty4on: 49 CaptainNuevo: 46 Muffin: 36 nin1000: 36 Fireblend: 29 turmoil7: 29 The Wizard: 28 Blargonaut: 28 Neon: 27 Alexem: 25 Geno: 22 TheWorthyEdge: 19 Natiko: 13 malus: 13 Zippedpinhead: 7
Current Countdown:
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...I'm tired.
(I'm re-reading turm's stuff re my vote on him.)
(Ignoring meme posts at the start. Early on engages with fran here on discussing mechanics, and saying a non-controversial belief about how we should handle hammers for xp. This feels different enough from trying to persuade how we view vote movement I'll say it's fine).
Can I?
(Follows it up with this:)
(Interesting. A hard read early on, which later on picked up some level of pressure, and verbal push without actual votes from Sneeks)
(Some stuff re: ty slip)
(Eh. Y'know, I don't think my vote is in the right place today.)
Unvote
(I'm actually about to head to sleep since I'm in Japan. I'll be up around 40 minutes before end of day. So... uhhhh... this is awkward timing).
(ANYHOW. Sneeks got very verbal with a few people in a way that felt almost like tunneling but didn't put out a vote on them. Which is kinda odd given past behavior, but then again very few people put out votes.)
(I'd like to see Blarg and Geno and Nin actually... contribute and post more. I'll chalk this up to time differences for the time being, but I hope to see some contributions from them when I wake up, or I'd be starting to push their feet to the flames in D2.)
(Chuggs... feels genuinely frustrated at being called out earlier today. Town vibes.)
(Sorian is also less directive than previous. And quieter. Need to read him more).
(Me? I need xp.)
(I think the ty vote would give us more useful information than a lot of other options in the lead do right now, which is something I think we need D1. So...)
VOTE: Ty4on
(I'm re-reading turm's stuff re my vote on him.)
(Ignoring meme posts at the start. Early on engages with fran here on discussing mechanics, and saying a non-controversial belief about how we should handle hammers for xp. This feels different enough from trying to persuade how we view vote movement I'll say it's fine).
Can I?
(Follows it up with this:)
(Interesting. A hard read early on, which later on picked up some level of pressure, and verbal push without actual votes from Sneeks)
(Some stuff re: ty slip)
Am I making a mistake?
(Eh. Y'know, I don't think my vote is in the right place today.)
Unvote
(I'm actually about to head to sleep since I'm in Japan. I'll be up around 40 minutes before end of day. So... uhhhh... this is awkward timing).
(ANYHOW. Sneeks got very verbal with a few people in a way that felt almost like tunneling but didn't put out a vote on them. Which is kinda odd given past behavior, but then again very few people put out votes.)
(I'd like to see Blarg and Geno and Nin actually... contribute and post more. I'll chalk this up to time differences for the time being, but I hope to see some contributions from them when I wake up, or I'd be starting to push their feet to the flames in D2.)
(Chuggs... feels genuinely frustrated at being called out earlier today. Town vibes.)
(Sorian is also less directive than previous. And quieter. Need to read him more).
(Me? I need xp.)
(I think the ty vote would give us more useful information than a lot of other options in the lead do right now, which is something I think we need D1. So...)
VOTE: Ty4on
I’m only part way caught up and probably won’t be active posting until I get to work but I saw this and don’t want to forget to reply. I generally ended up liking them.
TWE had the most honest opinion out of the three and while he isn’t known for checking scum thread like ever, I think he made those posts without a team backing him.
Alexem is a little more sheepy but I remember his play always being kind of weak day 1.
Geno, I liked as well but mainly the issue is his posts came so late after everything happened that I can’t trust he wasn’t just lurking that whole time
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I think I’ve been pretty open that I didn’t find any merit to the Ty slip being a real slip and that I don’t scum read them for it, but that I felt some of the reactions to it would be informative. Of those reactions I found Wizard, Turm, and Febe to be the ones I liked the least. I’ve warmed up on Febe some since then, but the other two not so much. Meanwhile flipping Alexem I don’t think really resolves anything around Ty’s slip or the reactions to it. I haven’t read like 2ish pages though so by all means if I’m missing something let me know - I’m not against being reasoned with.
The rest of that re-read wasn’t bad. I’m not going to move my vote off of Muffin, if he doesn’t want to engage with the game and actually explain his fake reads, I’m not going to let it slide. This is how he coasted through that one game until he betrayed everyone.
Zipped is whatever, I’m not going to vote there. Will see if he gets less real life busy tomorrow and if not will press more then.
Coppa is interesting. I was willing to let him slide but him backing up into the Ty vote did make me raise my eyebrow, I feel like that was the weakest vote he could have made before going for the whole day. It also positions the vote in an awkward way since he has now anchored that vote in the lead (I assume, I don’t have the vote tool up)
Zipped is whatever, I’m not going to vote there. Will see if he gets less real life busy tomorrow and if not will press more then.
Coppa is interesting. I was willing to let him slide but him backing up into the Ty vote did make me raise my eyebrow, I feel like that was the weakest vote he could have made before going for the whole day. It also positions the vote in an awkward way since he has now anchored that vote in the lead (I assume, I don’t have the vote tool up)
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
It's small but I like that Fran is inviting in discussion here, the boredom feels towny to me like someone on their own. I find Fran tough to read cause to me their play is pretty similar as either alignment but points for this.
To me those reads feel pretty safe and consensus-y. (I haven't checked if he was early on any of them)
I think Zipped is comfortable in this range as either alignment, not mad at the pressure but I think a vote there would be low yield.
At that point I hadn't seen the clarification Fran pulled so I thought there was a pretty real chance I had missed an extra rule. The rules here are pretty unusual and I already asked Hedin for clarification on how the voting rule works pre-game cause the way it was phrased felt ambiguous to me.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
I agree with you Me looking at coasters is worthless. It was more i understand the general town sentiment to kill coasters day 1.
I didn’t realize that if we don’t vote we don’t get XP, need that in an RPG.
chuggs and Sorian really feel like their typical town day 1. Alexem reads town as well.
Turm and Captain I’m getting weird vibes from
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
I would leave Blarg alone for the simple reason I find his post style amusing and I am not sorry about this.
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It bothers me that Sneeks post #291 on Sorian and Ty seems to lean scummy on Sorian but Sneeks today has no pressure on Sorian and pretty much omits mentioning Sorian until throwing them into a town-ish list.
I usually like Sneeks more than I have so far, the effort is coming through (reluctantly) but I also find it's the kind of content that is easy enough to fake as scum
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melons reads don't make much sense to me (I don't see whatever triangle in Chuggs-Sneeks-HP) but I do think they are on their own.
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It bothers me that Sneeks post #291 on Sorian and Ty seems to lean scummy on Sorian but Sneeks today has no pressure on Sorian and pretty much omits mentioning Sorian until throwing them into a town-ish list.
I usually like Sneeks more than I have so far, the effort is coming through (reluctantly) but I also find it's the kind of content that is easy enough to fake as scum
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melons reads don't make much sense to me (I don't see whatever triangle in Chuggs-Sneeks-HP) but I do think they are on their own.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
VOTE: turm
I’m good with putting my vote back down here. I still like the idea of flipping in the early reactions to Ty’s post as I think there’s likely to be mafia there. If it comes to it I would move to Alex to keep wagons competitive sooner than I would move to Ty or Saw. What’s the case on cap?
I’m good with putting my vote back down here. I still like the idea of flipping in the early reactions to Ty’s post as I think there’s likely to be mafia there. If it comes to it I would move to Alex to keep wagons competitive sooner than I would move to Ty or Saw. What’s the case on cap?
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
I feel like Neon is making some effort to be understood here even if it comes in response to pressure. His engagement with me was okay and has me cooling on him a little although I don't like the way he dropped his initial reads as half-baked when questioned on them instead of trying to sort through his actual view on the game.
What's your netural case on Ty I don't see where that would come from?
I didn't know that's how you played, I would delete less. No ragrets.
More hedgey reads from Alex here, I want a firmer stance from him.
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What Nat has is sleight but I feel like he is bringing his own insights/takes and I'm nodding when I read the little he does put down right now, wouldn't go there.
Franconp
Frank
Man, I don't really like this. I ask for some reads and get Sneeks, Chuggs and Sorian which I appreciate even if they didn't have much meat behind them but then we have Blarg, Geno and Nin who, let's be honest here, are the easiest reads to make because there is nothing there but fluff. And then he would start pushind D2, why not D1? Why let it be an extra day? This wasn't what I was hoping when asking for reads (that's why I asked Zipped to skip the coaster and give some better reads).
Maybe but it's D1. I don't expect some gamebreaking reads from anyone but putting some of your thoughts in the open with noone pushing Alexem for them it's fine to me.
Thanks Zipped. I'm going to be honest. I want more from that spot. Help me read you.
Melon seems like she is not worried how the thread see them and I like. I think she is town doing their own thing and, even when I don't agree with some of their post, I like that she made them.
I actually asked Sneeks about that and she said this:
Does this change your read on her?
A lot of fluff. Like a loooot. And pretty safe reads.
malus
#1 official chartmaker
He's been around, but hasn't really tried to push the game forward.
This is the only post with actual substance:
And it's basically just switching from one low hanging fruit to another low hanging fruit.
His earlier vote on Turmoil was just a meme vote, but he later tries to justify it anyway:
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
I mean that response is still weird to me cause it feels like she didn't really want to talk about Sorian and only explored them in relation to Ty.
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I think Alexem's vote has the least conviction of what I've seen so far and his reads don't make me feel better. I think that's a solid pick for today.
Vote: Alexem
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I'm starting work now I'll try to dip in and out between now and EoD but I don't expect to read a bunch more of the day.
Fireblend
ABLF
Woke up and caught up, I should be here through the end of the day. Right now Turm, Muffin, Neon and Melon are the ones I wouldn't mind flipping; Turm because of the reasons I've already explained (I really didn't like their posts asking for us to "move on" from ty when they happened, and the later one saying he liked my reasons for voting him (?)), Muffin because he seems pretty non-committal so far and unlike other posters that have been posting but haven't given me much to go on (like Cap), the vibes are kinda off, Neon because I do think their initial ty post was bad and then when I applied some pressure he couldn't explain themselves well, it was almost like they were recycling Ty's misreading excuse, and finally Melon is the most vibes based one but the rapid posting and alternating between joke comments and kind of responding to what's happening but in a sort of superficial way of the last two pages doesn't sit super right with me. I also disagree with her scum team.
Captain I wouldn't vote for. Not that he's being pressured but I feel like he reads as kind of trying to get a sense for the game still. I would be much more interested in seeing how he plays after N1.
Geno I also wouldn't vote for, he hasn't posted that much and so far he's been the Geno I know.
Nin, I always kind of get bad vibes from his play and posting style so probably wouldn't try to turn over that stone just yet.
Chuggs vs Sneeks felt like a whole lot of nothing to me. Maybe I did get pocketed by Chuggs but I don't see anything so far to suggest he'd be a good flip even if he's the weakest of my town reads. Sorian and Sneeks I'm also ok with, and Fran also feels good.
For the others I have to go back and read. Natiko and Alexem are two that I've thought I could be convinced to vote for, rereading the last page, but I have to make sure I'm not just reading y'all's list and borrowing your opinions lol. Natiko did make me wonder when he removed his vote for me after applying the softest pressure ever, and then consistently town reading me, but I don't think there's quite enough there.
And then there's also some holes in my brain like The Wizard, Zipped and Blarg. No read on those yet. Not even sure who else I'm missing.
Captain I wouldn't vote for. Not that he's being pressured but I feel like he reads as kind of trying to get a sense for the game still. I would be much more interested in seeing how he plays after N1.
Geno I also wouldn't vote for, he hasn't posted that much and so far he's been the Geno I know.
Nin, I always kind of get bad vibes from his play and posting style so probably wouldn't try to turn over that stone just yet.
Chuggs vs Sneeks felt like a whole lot of nothing to me. Maybe I did get pocketed by Chuggs but I don't see anything so far to suggest he'd be a good flip even if he's the weakest of my town reads. Sorian and Sneeks I'm also ok with, and Fran also feels good.
For the others I have to go back and read. Natiko and Alexem are two that I've thought I could be convinced to vote for, rereading the last page, but I have to make sure I'm not just reading y'all's list and borrowing your opinions lol. Natiko did make me wonder when he removed his vote for me after applying the softest pressure ever, and then consistently town reading me, but I don't think there's quite enough there.
And then there's also some holes in my brain like The Wizard, Zipped and Blarg. No read on those yet. Not even sure who else I'm missing.
malus
#1 official chartmaker
What do you think of HPSauce's vote?
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Idk what to tell you ur association with Chuggs doomed you in my eyes. I already said it was less what you said but how you both said and the timing of it that stuck out to me. It felt like a canned response that was pre-discussed.
The phase "why would scum do X" as a gotcha is a boring why to play. I don't all the answers and but I don't find that a helpful phrase and it just shuts down a discussion.
Idk why scum does what scum does especially not on d1.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Not love loving the Ty/Turm and Alex votes. But I can kind of understand them.
Alexem
Yeah, I'm town
I'm also happy to keep my vote as it is at the moment. I know it's not perfect, but looking at the competing options - Turm, Cap and Sneeks - I'm not feeling any of them. Cap would probably be my alternative choice out of those, but as much as I'd like to hear more from him in general, I can also respect that the timing's not ideal for him while he's away.
Obviously I've no interest in self-voting, and I'd sooner place a vote where I can find some reasoning than go along with a train that I'm not on board with just because it's there or for the sake of getting voting experience. The bottom line is it's D1 - we have precious little real information to go on and to me, there's more purpose in looking into a possible slip than clutching at vibes.
Obviously I've no interest in self-voting, and I'd sooner place a vote where I can find some reasoning than go along with a train that I'm not on board with just because it's there or for the sake of getting voting experience. The bottom line is it's D1 - we have precious little real information to go on and to me, there's more purpose in looking into a possible slip than clutching at vibes.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
With day 1 I am always the worst on reading breadcrumbs and slips. But I’m reading since Franconp’s quote and since my last post, is it weird that I like Turms Cap vote but still kinda want to vote Turm?
that’s where my headspace is, but I don’t like it.
vote: turmoil7
that’s where my headspace is, but I don’t like it.
vote: turmoil7
Fireblend
ABLF
this is such a lazy vote
Turmoil keeps voting for people that I suspect too and then it spooks me a bit because I don't like Turmoil much this game.
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I was reading Fireblend's post and when he said Sneeks vs. Chuggs, I found it interesting that Chuggs has been in two high profile fights today. On the one hand, it almost makes me want to lean back towards the town side of things because I just don't think he makes himself that high profile as scum but the elephant in the room is he didn't start either of those fights, he was forced into it by me and then by a combo of melon and Saw. It's really just NAI but I wanted to put thoughts to writing.
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I was reading Fireblend's post and when he said Sneeks vs. Chuggs, I found it interesting that Chuggs has been in two high profile fights today. On the one hand, it almost makes me want to lean back towards the town side of things because I just don't think he makes himself that high profile as scum but the elephant in the room is he didn't start either of those fights, he was forced into it by me and then by a combo of melon and Saw. It's really just NAI but I wanted to put thoughts to writing.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I could easily just do the old Chuggs way and just ignore them but I don’t really want to argue about this right now.
Nothing about Neeks is screaming town to me and I don’t really care for her saying most of the things in this game have revolved around the Ty nonsense because I just don’t really agree with looking at it from that frame, but I’m alright with giving her a chance to cook. Just don’t want to forget about this slot. (Also Nat’s kind of doing the same thing with the Ty thing and I kind of town read him so I might be in a tunnel)
I don’t think Turms and Ty are it and Cap gives me alone vibes. I agree in that Muffin has left a lot to be desired. Haven’t actually checked who else is up for a vote
Vote: Muffin
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
I'm never gonna play in a way yall like. I ain't here to please.
Town:
Mel(on) - def a real one.
Leaning to town:
Fran - feels like the real problem solver and trying to generate helpful engagement from ppl. This is how I remember Fran as town to be.
Sorian - seems frustrated and tired of town being so town-y and I can relate. He came away best from round 1 with chuggs and again with (limited) pressure from sneeks.
Wiz - Having a bit of fun with some of the quest and mechanic talk but I feel it's from a genuine place.
Neon - Idk if I played with them before but I like how they handled themselves under pressure and their reads felt like a real attempt to solve.
Alexem - not a super strong lean at all. but has done some solving to separate from the null stack of coasters.
Probably not town but whatever:
Cap - a lot of spiraling for a joke but I do think something is here and I so want to see how it plays out.
Ty - that read list felt like from the future with all the support and backing for ppl and just didn't describe the d1 we've had at all. I do think the slip was an honest mistake or an assumption made based on their own role but I don't think that automatically makes Ty scum. Maybe a xp thief ?
Feeling bad about outside the trio (Chuggs, Sneeks and HP):
TWE - mostly vibes.
Febe - flying more under the radar that I would expect for Town!Febe.
Turm - active in the beginning but I don't feel like they're doing much to solve.
After sleeping on it I feel slightly better about Chuggs, worse about Sneeks and the exact same about HP who gave me little else to work with.
This stack of null at the bottom sucks:
Geno
Muffin
Blarg
Nin
Zipped
Natiko
Where I'm at rn.
Town:
Mel(on) - def a real one.
Leaning to town:
Fran - feels like the real problem solver and trying to generate helpful engagement from ppl. This is how I remember Fran as town to be.
Sorian - seems frustrated and tired of town being so town-y and I can relate. He came away best from round 1 with chuggs and again with (limited) pressure from sneeks.
Wiz - Having a bit of fun with some of the quest and mechanic talk but I feel it's from a genuine place.
Neon - Idk if I played with them before but I like how they handled themselves under pressure and their reads felt like a real attempt to solve.
Alexem - not a super strong lean at all. but has done some solving to separate from the null stack of coasters.
Probably not town but whatever:
Cap - a lot of spiraling for a joke but I do think something is here and I so want to see how it plays out.
Ty - that read list felt like from the future with all the support and backing for ppl and just didn't describe the d1 we've had at all. I do think the slip was an honest mistake or an assumption made based on their own role but I don't think that automatically makes Ty scum. Maybe a xp thief ?
Feeling bad about outside the trio (Chuggs, Sneeks and HP):
TWE - mostly vibes.
Febe - flying more under the radar that I would expect for Town!Febe.
Turm - active in the beginning but I don't feel like they're doing much to solve.
After sleeping on it I feel slightly better about Chuggs, worse about Sneeks and the exact same about HP who gave me little else to work with.
This stack of null at the bottom sucks:
Geno
Muffin
Blarg
Nin
Zipped
Natiko
Where I'm at rn.
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start
Ty4on (4 votes)
HPSauce - #345
Geno - #402
Alexem - #448
CaptainNuevo - #773
turmoil7 (4 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #36 #773
Fireblend - #384
malus - #416 #759
TheWorthyEdge - #720
Natiko - #780
Zippedpinhead - #794
Alexem (3 votes)
Ty4on - #548
Sawneeks - #756
The Wizard - #784
CaptainNuevo (3 votes)
Sawneeks - #624 #745
malus - #759
Franconp - #765
turmoil7 - #792
Muffin (2 votes)
Sorian - #660
Chuggernaut - #797
TheWorthyEdge (1 votes)
Neon - #743
Geno (1 votes)
Muffin - #691
Sawneeks (1 votes)
melonrabbit - #671
Chuggernaut - #678 #797
Blargonaut (1 votes)
Blargonaut - #587
Sorian (0 votes)
The Wizard - #475 #784
Chuggernaut (0 votes)
turmoil7 - #169 #792
Sorian - #377 #660
melonrabbit - #626 #671
Neon (0 votes)
Chuggernaut - #240 #678
Fireblend (0 votes)
Natiko - #378 #453
Not voting: nin1000
Post Counts:
Chuggernaut: 141 melonrabbit: 128 Sorian: 82 Sawneeks: 67 Franconp: 60 HPSauce: 50 Ty4on: 49 CaptainNuevo: 47 Muffin: 36 nin1000: 36 The Wizard: 32 Fireblend: 32 turmoil7: 30 Blargonaut: 28 Neon: 27 Alexem: 26 Geno: 22 TheWorthyEdge: 19 malus: 16 Natiko: 15 Zippedpinhead: 9
Current Countdown:
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Day Start
Ty4on (4 votes)
HPSauce - #345
Geno - #402
Alexem - #448
CaptainNuevo - #773
turmoil7 (4 votes)
Fireblend - #384
TheWorthyEdge - #720
Natiko - #780
Zippedpinhead - #794
Alexem (3 votes)
Ty4on - #548
Sawneeks - #756
The Wizard - #784
CaptainNuevo (3 votes)
malus - #759
Franconp - #765
turmoil7 - #792
Muffin (2 votes)
Sorian - #660
Chuggernaut - #797
TheWorthyEdge (1 votes)
Neon - #743
Geno (1 votes)
Muffin - #691
Sawneeks (1 votes)
melonrabbit - #671
Blargonaut (1 votes)
Blargonaut - #587
Sorian (0 votes)
Chuggernaut (0 votes)
Neon (0 votes)
Fireblend (0 votes)
Not voting: nin1000
Post Counts:
Chuggernaut: 141 melonrabbit: 128 Sorian: 82 Sawneeks: 67 Franconp: 60 HPSauce: 50 Ty4on: 49 CaptainNuevo: 47 Muffin: 36 nin1000: 36 The Wizard: 32 Fireblend: 32 turmoil7: 30 Blargonaut: 28 Neon: 27 Alexem: 26 Geno: 22 TheWorthyEdge: 19 malus: 16 Natiko: 15 Zippedpinhead: 9
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Fireblend
ABLF
Can you elaborate on me flying under the radar?