RPG Mafia - Secret Chrono Fantasy Trail CIXVI

Hedin

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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==== DAY 8 VOTES ====
Day Start

Chuggernaut (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #4,239

turmoil7 (1 votes)
Zippedpinhead - #4,234

Not voting: Muffin, Sorian, Chuggernaut, melonrabbit

Post Counts:
Chuggernaut: 17 Muffin: 15 Sorian: 14 melonrabbit: 13 Zippedpinhead: 9 turmoil7: 3

Current Countdown:
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Sorian

Sorian

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I’m going to blame the holiday and the whole day of no vote but it’s strangely quiet. I don’t really have much more to add but I’ll hold on voting to make sure no one else wants to say anything. I’m just voting turmoil today. I’m still less sure on him than Muffin but he covers more potential team comps left so he’s the best play in my opinion.
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
Sorian said:
I’m going to blame the holiday and the whole day of no vote but it’s strangely quiet. I don’t really have much more to add but I’ll hold on voting to make sure no one else wants to say anything. I’m just voting turmoil today. I’m still less sure on him than Muffin but he covers more potential team comps left so he’s the best play in my opinion.
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Does it change the calculus if scum only has one team member left?

like I posted in my read and vote for Turm. Turm makes more sense as part of a team, but I am struggling on if Turm could be the last scum left
 
Sorian

Sorian

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Not really, it’s like I said in my big post. Turm could be by himself here but we don’t know if we are in mylo or not right now and we have to lynch based on that. I still think Muffin or even you as a super long shot but I don’t see you two teamed for sure like I do with Turm so taking the shot in the dark is the riskier play when we have no real reason to do it.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Sorian said:
I’m going to blame the holiday and the whole day of no vote but it’s strangely quiet. I don’t really have much more to add but I’ll hold on voting to make sure no one else wants to say anything. I’m just voting turmoil today. I’m still less sure on him than Muffin but he covers more potential team comps left so he’s the best play in my opinion.
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Yeah I expected it to be louder or at least some more pushback from Turms so it’s kind of weirding me out. I truly can’t see it being a lot of other players at this point though. Like I think town Turns only makes sense to me if it’s literally just scum Muffin left
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
melonrabbit said:
Idk doesn't feel v town to just completely disappear. I get feeling hopeless but zero presence helps no one.
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I agree, and if he doesn't come back I still think we should vote him there, but also Geno just ghosted too so I'm not going to say I'm not nervous about it
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Chuggernaut said:
@turmoil7 If it's not me and Sorian who do you land on it being
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There is 6 players left it's not like there is much room to pick from.

If I had to list all players I would go

Sorian > Chuggs > Muffin > Melon

I give you a bit of grace over Sorian because Ty town read you two day phase ago, and considering this:

vote: Sorian
 
Sorian

Sorian

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What is the theory here? You haven't actually updated your read on me in days and at this point I'm either your comfort vote that doesn't have any thought behind it anymore or you're just sticking to your guns and hoping people change their mind before you lose.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
turmoil7 said:
There is 6 players left it's not like there is much room to pick from.

If I had to list all players I would go

Sorian > Chuggs > Muffin > Melon

I give you a bit of grace over Sorian because Ty town read you two day phase ago, and considering this:

vote: Sorian
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Why do you think it's Sorian
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Chuggernaut said:
Why do you think it's Sorian
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-Hasnt done a townie thing other than bussing Alex.
-claims a hider shot at a tier we had a Cop Shot.
- has a claim that conveniently allows his to live to MYLO.
- also has anyone wondered why scum hasn't killed Sorian if they should be so scared of his last PR?
 
Sorian

Sorian

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turmoil7 said:
-Hasnt done a townie thing other than bussing Alex.
-claims a hider shot at a tier we had a Cop Shot.
- has a claim that conveniently allows his to live to MYLO.
- also has anyone wondered why scum hasn't killed Sorian if they should be so scared of his last PR?
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I don’t see you making a fuss that there are two vigilante shots at the same tier or heal shots at the same tier, weird that this is your sticking point.

My claim doesn’t conveniently let me live to mylo. Scum can kill me whenever they want but the big issue that you are choosing to ignore is when would they? Before last night, it looked like nin was going to kill me for them and last night who is going to die, the green checked mayor or the person who’s still in Poe that flips and 100% proves the green checked mayor?
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Turm flip seems to only correct course. This Sorian push is days late and no speaking up yesterday looks really bad. I don't see a world where Chuggs and Sorian are aligned as scum.
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
Do we want to take the next three hours or should we hammer and then give Hedin some extra time?
Are we doing 72 hrs off and then next day phase starts on Friday?
 
Hedin

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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Zippedpinhead said:
Do we want to take the next three hours or should we hammer and then give Hedin some extra time?
Are we doing 72 hrs off and then next day phase starts on Friday?
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Yes there will be a 72hr night, next phase will start the usual time on the 26th.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I’m gonna trust you

Just an FYI I have to drive to Mississippi and back unexpectedly around Christmas. I’ll still be here but I’m going to miss the first chunk of the day phase if this goes on for longer
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Honestly the one thing still giving me pause is Turms is really not pressed about not dying here. Like maybe he’s just caught scum but damn he’s just not even trying.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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I was debating if it’s worth being mad at Zipped assuming the game won’t end but I don’t even think the game is going to end. This is either part 1 of 2 scum needed or it’s just Muffin anyway.

I’ll hammer in like 5 minutes when I get off this phone call unless someone says they want me to wait.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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VOTE: turmoil7

Tbh, just be done already so I can stop thinking about this game
 
Hedin

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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The party spent all day climbing the mountain. The early sections were filled with easy to use paths but the higher they went the steeper and more treacherous the paths became. The party was starting to come through a small gap in the path when the rear of the column was ambushed by several bears.

RANDOM ENCOUNTER

Party members tried to rally at the gap in the hopes of using the narrowness to only require fighting one bear at a time. However turmoil was a bit slow in reacting and he was caught and mauled by the bears. The rest of the party was able to hold their ground and defeat several bears, the rest ran off with turmoils' body.

turmoil7 has died!

Welcome to RPG Mafia!

You are the Trainee and you are aligned with The Heroes of Aeredale (that is TOWN).

As the Trainee you do not have any available abilities at the start of the game. After the first eligible town role has been killed, you will be able to take up their abilities, which will be conveyed to you at that time. You will not inherit exp and any ability that the prior player had used will be unavailable.

You also have the ability to vote each day.

You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

The game thread can be found here:

Good luck and have fun!
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Turmoil had become The Tank

At this point the weather started to turn nasty and the party struggled on for a little while longer. Eventually they were able to find a cave in which they could shelter in, the way the storm was going they reasoned they may be stuck for awhile.

Night ends in:

oq5q4e0efp


Night actions lock two hours before night end.

The following players gain 1 xp

Zipped
melon
Chugg
Sorian



I hope everyone is able to have a wonderful holidays.
 
Hedin

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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Finally the weather improved and the party was able to leave the cave that they had stayed in for so long. But as they were preparing to move out they noticed Zipped was not moving and upon closer examination they noticed that he had been stabbed overnight.

Zippedpinhead has died!

Welcome to RPG Mafia!

You are the Cleric and you are aligned with The Heroes of Aeredale (that is TOWN).

You have the following abilities:

Tier 1 (2 exp): Minor Miracle

This ability will allow you to Heal your target.

Tier 2 (4 exp): Divine Aura

This ability will allow you to perform an Alignment Check against your target.

Tier 3 (6 exp): Divine Blessing

This ability will allow you to Strong Heal your target. A Strong Heal will overcome all potential attacks and may also cure status effects.

During the night phase if you want to exchange experience points for one of your available abilities you may submit the command via PM Learn: Tier X to learn how to use your chosen ability.

- You can only learn and use each ability once in the game
- You do not have to learn the abilities in order, you can go in any order that you would like.
- You can learn and use an ability that same night, but it is not mandatory to do so.
- You can only learn and use one ability per night phase.
- Commands for how to use each ability will be provided after they are learned.

You also have the ability to vote each day.

You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

The game thread can be found here:

Good luck and have fun!
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The players looked at each other with suspicion, it seemed unlikely that anyone could have made it into that cave without them noticing. Still their journey beckoned them on and they proceeded to warily leave the cave and journey higher up the mountain,

Day 9 begins

Day ends in:

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All players gain 1 xp
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Okay was able to check in a bit earlier than I thought because I’m not currently on driving duty. So that confirms one scum so we vote no kill here right
 
Sorian

Sorian

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I guess that was the obvious kill even if I was mildly entertaining Zipped as tge scum. I’m honestly kind of shocked that it really was jjst a four person scum team.

melon, Muffin kidnapped me and Chuggs for a way too long gossip chat but we didn’t really do much in there because of the holiday. Chuggs won’t be around for like 8 hours I think he said.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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I want everyone to humor me before we no vote because yes that’s the move Chuggs. I want everyone to tell me who you think is scum and who you think will die tonight.

I think Muffin is scum and I think Chuggs will die.
 
Sorian

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
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melonrabbit said:
Why would we no vote again?

Or are you saying you were roleblocked last night?
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It puts the game into final 3 so better odds of being right and I also did not even try to do my thing for a few reasons that I can explain tomorrow if I’m alive or post game if not
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
This worries me because I feel like with a no vote it’s better to be quieter on reads and what not just to not give scum a clue of where to go here

but I’ll play along. Currently leaning toward Muffin and I think Sorian dies tonight
 
Sorian

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
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Didn’t do it last night, I will tonight obviously, this isn’t a “haha, jk no power” moment.
 
Sorian

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
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Chuggernaut said:
This worries me because I feel like with a no vote it’s better to be quieter on reads and what not just to not give scum a clue of where to go here

but I’ll play along. Currently leaning toward Muffin and I think Sorian dies tonight
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Usually I would agree, I’m asking everyone to do this for a reason
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
melonrabbit said:
Why would we no vote again?

Or are you saying you were roleblocked last night?
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You can probably make an argument for everyone alive being scum so putting it in final 3 gives us better odds. If Zipped wasn’t the kill I don’t think it would be the play, but I think it is for sure now
 
Sorian

Sorian

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melonrabbit said:
And what if scum just decides to no kill?
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Maybe but they are better served killing someone who is likely to vote against them in a player size this small. This is just game theory stuff that’s been done to death. Town wants to no vote here, scum wants to never waste a night kill.

If they really want to do that then we just vote tomorrow instead, plus ill have more to say tomorrow anyway
 
Sorian

Sorian

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melonrabbit said:
And what if scum just decides to no kill?
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Also humor my question please, I’d rather just get answers from all four of us, no vote, and see if we end the day fast enough for zipped to not make us wait until Sunday or whatever it would be if we did a full day today
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Sorian said:
Also humor my question please, I’d rather just get answers from all four of us, no vote, and see if we end the day fast enough for zipped to not make us wait until Sunday or whatever it would be if we did a full day today
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This game has made me very very tired.

I think it's very likely Muffin. But I'm not sure how that role fits in with there only being 4 scum.

Chuggs I also don't see as solo scum. And the fruit to Nat buys him more cred than I'd otherwise have at this point in the game.

Or you. This waiting on and all the secrets about your Tier 3 have been going on for a while now (days) and that does give me pause.

None of the three of you really solve the whole poisoner dilemma. So I need to think on this.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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And I haven't been making any of you wait for my tier 3. I was very up front that it would be useful the closer to the end of the game we got and that I wasn't going to use it anytime soon. It's not my fault people want to ask me about every time we start a day like my answer was going to change.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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melonrabbit said:
I'll accept it for now. They are very adorable.

Who among us solves the poisoner? Just something Blarg made up? Are we all okay with that loose end?
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This is one of my problems and I'm beginning to think there was some other mechanic that we didn't see or that I don't understand. I know poison is real because of my Natiko shop so I don't think Blarg was just being Blarg. But from my perspective, you are the only person who could have done the poison.

But 1) I don't think you are scum because of what I've been saying about our role argument

and 2) You are the only person who is bringing up and talking about the poison the last couple days and I doubt you highlight that when you are the only person it implicates.

And no, I don't think Muffin named his class but I could definitely not be remembering.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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I'm just hoping that my tier 3 just does what I want it to do and then we can just be told the answer after the game but I'm kind of wondering if we were reversed this whole time and it was never someone that targeted Blarg and instead he got poisoned by targeting someone else. He had his strengthen at least or maybe even the roleblock (I'm not going to go count his exp right now) so he could have visited someone but I don't think he ever mentioned it. It's the only thing that makes sense unless the last scum just has a drastically different role from everyone else but mechanics don't seem to solve the poison normally so we have some assumption wrong.
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Sorian said:
I'm just hoping that my tier 3 just does what I want it to do and then we can just be told the answer after the game but I'm kind of wondering if we were reversed this whole time and it was never someone that targeted Blarg and instead he got poisoned by targeting someone else. He had his strengthen at least or maybe even the roleblock (I'm not going to go count his exp right now) so he could have visited someone but I don't think he ever mentioned it. It's the only thing that makes sense unless the last scum just has a drastically different role from everyone else but mechanics don't seem to solve the poison normally so we have some assumption wrong.
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Muffin had been confirmed to have 3 gossip chats now so that seems unlikely for him to have both.

Chuggs could be lying about the RNGness of the fruit and the first fruit could've been negative and sent to Blarg but Blarg would've gotten a message like yourself and Nat.

So unless you've been untruthful about your tiers. I'm struggling to make it fit.

And also don't really see you or Chuggs targeting Blarg.
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Just no vote and then you can vote me out, you're all set on it so why should I bother trying to talk y'all out of it at this point. Might as well end the game at this point.
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
It is not lost on me that today might well be the last day if Sorian is it and his tier 3 is an additional kill or some shit. But who cares. If it's him, nin gave us a chance and we missed it, we can just lie in that mistake. If it's not him, guess we'll lose tomorrow instead.
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Who do you think is scum between the four of us? Sorian?

If you're really town I'm willing to hear your thoughts before we vote.
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Muffin said:
It is not lost on me that today might well be the last day if Sorian is it and his tier 3 is an additional kill or some shit. But who cares. If it's him, nin gave us a chance and we missed it, we can just lie in that mistake. If it's not him, guess we'll lose tomorrow instead.
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He's had the xp for a while so maybe.
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I'm willing to hear an argument for voting for Sorian today.

I'm kinda sold on the reasoning that all the gossips have day commands is so/when the final scum is the gossip they can still perform a night kill for balancing. Or does that make them too op. If Muffin can peform a day action and night action?
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
melonrabbit said:
Who do you think is scum between the four of us? Sorian?

If you're really town I'm willing to hear your thoughts before we vote.
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In order of likelihood, Sorian, then you, then Chuggs. But let's say for some reason you come to agree with me, Chuggs is not voting Sorian, he's been townreading him for way too long and too firmly. That's a 2v2. So even in that event, we end up with no kill because of a tie.

That is why I say it is pointless. There is no scenario where we do not no kill today. And it isn't necessarily bad to no kill if my suspicion is wrong and it's you or Chuggs either, that possibility still exists. Going down to 3 would help in that case.
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
melonrabbit said:
I'm willing to hear an argument for voting for Sorian today.

I'm kinda sold on the reasoning that all the gossips have day commands is so/when the final scum is the gossip they can still perform a night kill for balancing. Or does that make them too op. If Muffin can peform a day action and night action?
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Read back alexems flip for example. It would not be op, they can still use even night actions and a kill at the same time.
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Muffin said:
Read back alexems flip for example. It would not be op, they can still use even night actions and a kill at the same time.
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Yes. But that's different than having a day command and (additional) night commands. I just thinking if I've seen it before.
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
So the idea that gossip means scum so they have both day and night commands is not an argument. They can perform their night abilities and send a kill anyway.
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
melonrabbit said:
Yes. But that's different than having a day command and (additional) night commands. I just thinking if I've seen it before.
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I used three day commands so far, what room is there for any more night commands, everything has been 1 shot
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Okay so you're leaning Sorian now.

I'd like to hear yours and Chuggs answer to the poisoner questions I posed to Sorian. If you've got the time.
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
melonrabbit said:
Okay so you're leaning Sorian now.

I'd like to hear yours and Chuggs answer to the poisoner questions I posed to Sorian. If you've got the time.
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All you threes flavor could fit a poison ability. A rogue, and two roles that have to do with food and drink?

Do we know where all of Chuggs fruits went?
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Chuggs said his first fruit was roleblocked or hit an RNG of not being sent, right? A day before Blarg got poisoned?
 
Sorian

Sorian

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Whoever is left already had an extra kill with the poison, I don't see a world where they have another one which is why I'm not that concerned about a sudden double kill to end the game. That plus Alex's extra kill didn't even work in mylo/lylo and even town extreme abilities didn't work in mylo/lylo either like nin's stuff so that's the least of my worries.

Muffin said:
In order of likelihood, Sorian, then you, then Chuggs. But let's say for some reason you come to agree with me, Chuggs is not voting Sorian, he's been townreading him for way too long and too firmly. That's a 2v2. So even in that event, we end up with no kill because of a tie.

That is why I say it is pointless. There is no scenario where we do not no kill today. And it isn't necessarily bad to no kill if my suspicion is wrong and it's you or Chuggs either, that possibility still exists. Going down to 3 would help in that case.
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Who do you think dies tonight?
 
Sorian

Sorian

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Staff member
Muffin said:
Chuggs said his first fruit was roleblocked or hit an RNG of not being sent, right? A day before Blarg got poisoned?
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Needed to verify because this game has been going on so long, yes, he said he sent it to TWE night 1 so all of that was a day before Blarg was poisoned.
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Sorian said:
Needed to verify because this game has been going on so long, yes, he said he sent it to TWE night 1 so all of that was a day before Blarg was poisoned.
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That would normally make my suspicion skyrocket, but we had people confirm getting fruit and shit all happened.
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Muffin said:
Still doesn't explain why others received fruits and nothing really happened.
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So are you thinking Chuggs lied and still has 1 more shot?

I didn't see a scenario whether Scum!Sorian or Town!Sorian covers for Chuggs if they recieved poisoned fruit.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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VOTE: No Vote

This is technically the right command so there is only one vote on it right now. It needs 3 so Chuggs or melon has to vote it as well to end the day early so I'm just placing mine down now because this conversation can be hashed tomorrow if my results don't come in the way I'm hoping. The consensus seems to be Muffin and I guess it doesn't really matter that much melon didn't say who they think will die tonight. This is the post from me that you read if I die overnight, you'll be able to put 2 and 2 together and what I did.
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Sorian said:
VOTE: No Vote

This is technically the right command so there is only one vote on it right now. It needs 3 so Chuggs or melon has to vote it as well to end the day early so I'm just placing mine down now because this conversation can be hashed tomorrow if my results don't come in the way I'm hoping. The consensus seems to be Muffin and I guess it doesn't really matter that much melon didn't say who they think will die tonight. This is the post from me that you read if I die overnight, you'll be able to put 2 and 2 together and what I did.
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We're at 2 votes.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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Ah ok, cool.

melonrabbit said:
So are you thinking Chuggs lied and still has 1 more shot?

I didn't see a scenario whether Scum!Sorian or Town!Sorian covers for Chuggs if they recieved poisoned fruit.
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As far as this, and this is taking my word for it so whatever. Hedin didn't give me the command on how to use the poison cure from Natiko and when I asked about it, he said it's used immediately on purchase so I couldn't save it and use it later. Chuggs sent me the fruit the night after I was in Natiko's shop so if I had been poisoned I would just be dead by now.
 
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