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Black Ranger

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If you think that way, i am very sorry :(
It wont hinder me of doing one though :3

Wasn't trying to hinder you. I just wanted to say it before anyone, be it you or someone else make another read list.

I certainly don't plan on doing one until I have more to go on. Be it at the end of today or another day.
 

Billy

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Wasn't trying to hinder you. I just wanted to say it before anyone, be it you or someone else make another read list.

I certainly don't plan on doing one until I have more to go on. Be it at the end of today or another day.

I certanly can understand the reasoning behind it and me saying i would make one was mostly a joke but since you do not like them it kinda challanged me to do one.
 

Black Ranger

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I certanly can understand the reasoning behind it and me saying i would make one was mostly a joke but since you do not like them it kinda challanged me to do one.

I just responded to you since you were the last one that mentioned it but if you think you can do one with solid reasoning, feel free to. I'd certainly read it and see how I feel.

(Also I didn't notice til I posted my last post but Billy's name was based off that actor huh? Didn't know that myself)
 

Black Ranger

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I can see why some people might choose not to lynch but lynching has more benefits for Town overall. It's hard to gleam any data without seeing some flips.

Weird to mention you're pro lynch though without anyone even hinting at the idea of a no-lynch.
 

Tommy

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I can see why some people might choose not to lynch but lynching has more benefits for Town overall. It's hard to gleam any data without seeing some flips.

Weird to mention you're pro lynch though without anyone even hinting at the idea of a no-lynch.

Not lynching on Day 1 seems like a pretty terrible idea in general.
 

Finster

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Billy is Billy, who they are outside of here doesn't matter.

What does matter is finding out if they are scum or not and right now, who knows? Even them saying they are pro lynch isn't indicative of anything.
 

Billy

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Billy is Billy, who they are outside of here doesn't matter.

What does matter is finding out if they are scum or not and right now, who knows? Even them saying they are pro lynch isn't indicative of anything.

Exactly. Its more a conversation about nothing, yet its at least a conversation we are having.
 

Black Ranger

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Less weird, more like taking out the possibility of talking about Pro Lynch / no Lynch

I get where you're coming from but:

Not lynching on Day 1 seems like a pretty terrible idea in general.

No one brought it up and it seems like a pretty bad idea to even suggest not lynching which is why I said it's weird to me that you mentioned it without anyone hinting at a no lynch.

Vote: Goldar

Hey! How are you doing?

I wasn't going to mention him until 24 hours had passed (so everyone in every timezone should have seen the game at some point) but he's the only one I think that hasn't posted yet.

So yeah, sup Goldar?
 

Skull

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I think we always have this pro-lynch conversation brought up and the reactions are also always the same.

I tend to find them NAI as well, but even so I think I never saw scum actually bring it up.
 

Skull

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I think we always have this pro-lynch conversation brought up and the reactions are also always the same.

I tend to find them NAI as well, but even so I think I never saw scum actually bring it up.
Clarify that I think it’s NAI to bring the “lynch or no lynch” topic, not the reactions to doing so.
 

Red Ranger

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Lynching is usually terrible on day 1, correct?

But also lynching is usually always terrible on and day, correct?
 

Skull

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Lynching is usually terrible on day 1, correct?

But also lynching is usually always terrible on and day, correct?
Not sure what you mean by this.. you mean the results of the lynch, right?

It’s hard to hit scum at D1, yeah, but’s it’s possible. It also gets progressively easier as we get more info, so they don’t usually suck as much.
 

Tommy

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Lynching is usually terrible on day 1, correct?

But also lynching is usually always terrible on and day, correct?

What's the alternative? To vote for no one, let scum just take someone out, and continue this same conversation tomorrow?
 

Trini

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Rita reads seem solid and she’s putting real work considering that it’s day 1 yet. If this is bold scum play, it will probably burn out quick.

I don’t follow her hot takes reads though since they seem based on “scum tells” and I can’t see those right now.

> D1 reads
> Solid reads

pick one.

And D1 is the easiest day to fluff up your post count. It isn't particularly bold scum play, though I don't think Rita is scum at the moment.
 

Zordon

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so many posts and I'm late getting back-

Day 1 jitters. The vote is essentially random, unless some sort of pre-game power role shenanigans exist.

I'd say I'm not comfortable voting at this time, but honestly a D1 vote is never comfortable. Pink Ranger, you voted for me for not doing pre-game stuff. Fair enough.

Kimberly questioning you (and seemingly defending me) is appreciated. I am glad Pink and Kimberly had that little conversation. It lets me know they are invested in this game.

I don't understand not wanting to vote day one. We need information; we get information through voting and flipping. I don't scum read this particularly because it's probably just a weak townie move but this is your power, Ranger: use it. Vote. You obviously already have some thoughts about players.
 

Bulk

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I really didn't think about it until it was mentioned, but on this Day 1 in particular, with no meta to lean on, I would've expected some pressure for the no-lynch camp.

Or is it the other way around and the lack of info on who's who is making people more likely to want to lynch a pretty much 100% random player?
 

Pink Ranger

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Nah, just saying that if we skip day 1 lynch we might as well skip them all.

That isn't true at all.

The idea of no lynching on day 1 is advantageous if you know it gives an odd number of players for later on. Having 7 players instead of 6 gives an extra lynch when people should have strong reads. However if we no lynch and end up with an even number of players we would have to no lynch later on too, losing us a lynch.

With the amount of unknowns in this game I think we need more info in the early stages so we need to see votes and a lynch.
 

Black Ranger

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The lack of meta is leading to different discussion which is a good thing. Less relying on a player's record and more trying to converse.

Though D1 is still pretty hard without any data to lean on and how do we get data? By lynching someone. In otherwords:

Or is it the other way around and the lack of info on who's who is making people more likely to want to lynch a pretty much 100% random player?

Between the two options you posed, this is the most likely one.
 

Green Ranger

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I don't know how many other people feel like this but the lack of known names was never going to make me change my mind about lynching D1. I've never picked a lynch on D1 because of past behaviour so this game wasn't going to be any different.
 

Zordon

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What's the alternative? To vote for no one, let scum just take someone out, and continue this same conversation tomorrow?
This isn't quite true, though, is it? Scum will take someone out so we will have connections to discuss and a new situation. What a no lynch really does is relinquish control, which we don't want to do. You're there but dancing around it. Why?
 

Pink Ranger

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I don't know how many other people feel like this but the lack of known names was never going to make me change my mind about lynching D1. I've never picked a lynch on D1 because of past behaviour so this game wasn't going to be any different.

So you don't rely on meta at all? That seems like bullshit to me.
 

Zordon

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everyone thinks this

every game, really...

but like

is it really true? does this ever happen? would a scum player really be so brazen? so... unabashed?

is it truly....? the oh so elusive....? the "Scum Tell™"....?

....


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

would a scum player

also not consider

what townies might think

and anticipate that?

...your post is really just elaborate WIFOM, Rita (and now mine is too yay)
 

Bulk

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I don't know how many other people feel like this but the lack of known names was never going to make me change my mind about lynching D1. I've never picked a lynch on D1 because of past behaviour so this game wasn't going to be any different.
Eh, it's still different though. We all have preconceptions from previous games and the way people behave usually, and the D1 vote is usually so arbitrary I really doubt the reasons you usually pick your D1 lynch are solid enough to make not relying on the meta to some degree that bad an option in comparison.
 

Black Ranger

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And in this case, we really don't have a choice in the matter. Meta is out the window so people will have to rely on reading the game and not reading the game + a slice of meta pie.

The pie is out the window now, only the current game matters.
 

Black Ranger

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So looking back to see who we need to hear more from and I came across this post.

I'm not sure what else there is to do though. We need to generate some discussion, and the only way to do that is to apply some vote pressure.

And I agree, vote pressure is a good way to generate discussion as is applying pressure to people who haven't put down a vote at all.

So who would you vote for at this current moment in time? Don't feel like you have to put down the vote right away, I'm just curious where your thoughts are at this current moment in time.
 

Jason

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This isn't quite true, though, is it? Scum will take someone out so we will have connections to discuss and a new situation. What a no lynch really does is relinquish control, which we don't want to do. You're there but dancing around it. Why?
Are you talking about scum taking someone out as in "they will drive the lynch day 1" or as in "They will then NK someone"?

When I first read this I read it as the first one, that regardless of some of us townfolk; scum will still drive to lynch someone. However I think you may have meant the second and that we would be relinquishing our control of the game to those that have actions at night.

I agree with the second though. We should not relinquish our power because that is every single player's main role. We have the power to vote and decide our fate.
 

Black Ranger

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Are you talking about scum taking someone out as in "they will drive the lynch day 1" or as in "They will then NK someone"?

I think he meant the second one, at least that is how I read it originally. As in, even if we go for a no-lynch, Scum will NK someone so we'll have connections (Did the person they NK get close to figuring out who a scum player is, etc) and a new situation that is different from fumbling about in the dark with no data like we're currently doing as it's D1 and all.
 

Finster

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unvote

Gotta say, I'm feeling better about Zordon. Not a definite town but not reading him as scum at the moment.

I'll see where the game heads and put a proper vote down before day's end.
 

Bulk

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@Jason , you never did answer why you said I might know something you don't. What made my post stand out to you in that way?
 

Black Ranger

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unvote

Gotta say, I'm feeling better about Zordon. Not a definite town but not reading him as scum at the moment.

I'll see where the game heads and put a proper vote down before day's end.

If you had to vote now, who would you vote for? Again, don't feel you need to do it now, just curious where you stand at the minute.
 

Jason

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Meta mostly, which I know I shouldn't do. But by the flavour if you people two people were most likely to be aligned its bulk and skull in a masons type deal.

So you wanting to vote for him sounded reasonable. but then others chimed in that flavour should not be taken as fact and I liked some of skulls responses so I unvoted.
 

Bulk

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Meta mostly, which I know I shouldn't do. But by the flavour if you people two people were most likely to be aligned its bulk and skull in a masons type deal.

So you wanting to vote for him sounded reasonable. but then others chimed in that flavour should not be taken as fact and I liked some of skulls responses so I unvoted.
Had you not read that roles were randomized regardless of flavor at the time you posted that?
 

Finster

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If you had to vote now, who would you vote for? Again, don't feel you need to do it now, just curious where you stand at the minute.

If I had to choose now, I'd probably choose Goldar due to no activity but we'll see. A lot can change before day's end not just in regards to activity but in regards to the substance of people's posts.

We'll see...
 

Zordon

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Are you talking about scum taking someone out as in "they will drive the lynch day 1" or as in "They will then NK someone"?

When I first read this I read it as the first one, that regardless of some of us townfolk; scum will still drive to lynch someone. However I think you may have meant the second and that we would be relinquishing our control of the game to those that have actions at night.

I agree with the second though. We should not relinquish our power because that is every single player's main role. We have the power to vote and decide our fate.
Black Ranger has it:

I think he meant the second one, at least that is how I read it originally. As in, even if we go for a no-lynch, Scum will NK someone so we'll have connections (Did the person they NK get close to figuring out who a scum player is, etc) and a new situation that is different from fumbling about in the dark with no data like we're currently doing as it's D1 and all.

No matter what we won't be in the same place tomorrow but we don't know what that place is. By lynching we retain some control and exercise what power we have.

I have some more things I missed to go through and a few questions to ask. Sorry if I'm bringing up things that were settled but hey, timezones.
 

Zordon

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speculating about votes in random vote phase (where we still are I think) is maybe silly because anyone can vote for anyone right now. All scum can vote for each other, masons vote for each other, cats and dogs live together, chaos and anarchy reign

TOMORROW though, 10~ hours to end of day, then things get real

but also better not to shut down discussion, yeah?

anyway~ speaking of shutting down discussion

Wasn't trying to hinder you. I just wanted to say it before anyone, be it you or someone else make another read list.

I certainly don't plan on doing one until I have more to go on. Be it at the end of today or another day.

this is bullshit - d1 read list is a good place to start in looking at who is doing gutfeels, who is only summarizing/repeating, who is actually thinking/engaging, who is trying to look busy but saying nothing
 

Zordon

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I approve of Tommy calling out Goldar for not being active even if it's not yet 24 hours yet but I don't want to pile on there. Just hey @Goldar are you coming?
 

Zordon

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Bulk, not sure what you mean there, can you clarify?

But every time I look back at the thread I see Black Ranger trying to shape things.

vote: Black Ranger

Tell me more about why you think your strategies are the best strategies.
 

Black Ranger

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Tell me more about why you think your strategies are the best strategies.

I don't have much of a strategy right now outside of ask people things and see where things stand. I have an idea of who to vote for but I'm waiting to see if they post anything that is actually worth reading before I call them out.

I figure the best way to get data is to ask people things which I've been doing. Seeing who they plan on voting for and why. Even if it doesn't help us today, it gives us something to look back on in a later day.

Is my strategy the best? I don't know. But it's better than making zero contribution at least.
 

Alpha 5

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Okay, just caught up.
So looking back to see who we need to hear more from and I came across this post.



And I agree, vote pressure is a good way to generate discussion as is applying pressure to people who haven't put down a vote at all.

So who would you vote for at this current moment in time? Don't feel like you have to put down the vote right away, I'm just curious where your thoughts are at this current moment in time.
I was hoping to wait out the first 24 hours before I made my vote, to give more people a chance to leave an impression. Players like yourself are apparently most active when I am asleep.

Right now, I am leaning town on Rita, and I think you are putting in some good effort at the very least. I am a little suspicious of the Red Ranger and am getting a mixed/neutral read on the Blue Ranger. There is also Jason, who I can't tell if he is acting scummy or just not paying attention properly.

Those impressions are just off of the top of my head, since I just woke up. I'll give the thread a reread and post more impressions around 24 hours into the game.
 

Kimberly

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unvote

Gotta say, I'm feeling better about Zordon. Not a definite town but not reading him as scum at the moment.

I'll see where the game heads and put a proper vote down before day's end.
What had you on Zordon in the first place? I thought you had placed a vote mimicking Rita's as an attempt at role-playing but your unvote now seems to imply that you had a genuine reason before.
 

Finster

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What had you on Zordon in the first place? I thought you had placed a vote mimicking Rita's as an attempt at role-playing but your unvote now seems to imply that you had a genuine reason before.

It was mostly an attempt at roleplaying but I can't really justify keeping my joke vote on him after his recent posts. Basically I feel good about him at the moment.

It would be really hard to have a genuine reason to vote for someone that early on after all.
 

Zordon

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Im not sure if it’s just because of all the unfamiliar names and such but the energy this d1 feels more energetic than what I’m Used too. Rita comes off looking good to me so far not only because she is giving a lot to work with at this early stage of the game even if most of it is kind of MEMEY sounding and she admits that it’s super duper preliminary. It is bold to put out a list before so many people have talked and I think it reflects well upon her

The RNG votes and Drive-by votes are common enough to players of any alignment in my experience so I find that the thing to focus on in relation to them is the responses to them. Reactions to bonuses like early lists, incomplete as they may be, are even better. Those who questioned the placement of Trini on the list? I think that was a very valid concern and so I do not believe it to be particularly indicative of being a scum at this point in time.

At the moment I am inclined to be suspicious of the one known as JASON for his response to the self proclaimed Bandora’s list. While I like that he was willing to definitively say he found the list strange, I believe that his question of why so many people were not on the list to be a strange concern to have. Many people had not posted at that stage of the game (My sunny self included), so it should have been self explanatory as far as I’m concerned. What would scum have to gain from that comment? It’s hard to say but I think that a scum player would not have had many options this early in the game, and an incomplete list provided a unique opportunity to call something into question. So for now I’m okay with leaving a vote on him.

VOTE: Jason

I'm kind of stuck on these two posts at the moment. This is Yellow Ranger's only contribution so far and it's a lot of hot air and very wishy washy. Depending on what else Yellow Ranger puts out, I'm getting some soft scum vibes off this attempt to look busy while saying not much at all that can be pinned down~
 

Zordon

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I don't have much of a strategy right now outside of ask people things and see where things stand. I have an idea of who to vote for but I'm waiting to see if they post anything that is actually worth reading before I call them out.

I figure the best way to get data is to ask people things which I've been doing. Seeing who they plan on voting for and why. Even if it doesn't help us today, it gives us something to look back on in a later day.

Is my strategy the best? I don't know. But it's better than making zero contribution at least.
so you're okay right now being very active and telling other people what to do without doing anything yourself? just for the record
 

Zack

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So you refute what I say? Because from where I'm standing your posts today have no real substance behind them. You can't just accuse someone of trying to look busy when your posts today don't make you look any better.

Nice try though like you said but you don't really have anything to make yourself look better either.
this is your post:

I'd agree with this, only claim if you absolutely have to. Right now the more PRs alive, the better the chance that we can get potentially gain more information to use in the later days.
I reeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaally don't feel like I have to prove "the substance behind my posts" to someone who posted that

I'm suspicious of the blue ranger for that one weird post about, and I'm suspicious of you for that non-post followed by unsuccessful attemps at deflection. those were my posts today, and I feel pretty good about them.
 

Zack

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well, that's just incomplete

I'm suspicious of the blue ranger for that one weird accusation about someone saying their random vote is actually random

seems like someone who's bending over themselves to justify a vote that they really didn't have to. too nervous.
 

Black Ranger

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so you're okay right now being very active and telling other people what to do without doing anything yourself? just for the record

I'm engaging to find out more data. That IS doing something. If someone wants to ask me a question, I'll answer it depending on how I feel. Like you did and I answered, same with Red even though my answer to him most would consider a non-answer, it's how I feel at this moment in time.

But I'm doing stuff by engaging which in turn gets other people to engage. That gives us more data to work with. The more data we have, the higher chance of getting scum during the D1 lynch.

It's unlikely we'll get scum D1 but the more we have to work with, the better the chances.
 

Trini

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so many posts and I'm late getting back-



I don't understand not wanting to vote day one. We need information; we get information through voting and flipping. I don't scum read this particularly because it's probably just a weak townie move but this is your power, Ranger: use it. Vote. You obviously already have some thoughts about players.

I'm not comfortable with my D1 vote, but I will be voting. I don't believe in no lynch. Like you said, flips are everything. A sacrifice is needed.
 

Zack

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I'm engaging to find out more data. That IS doing something. If someone wants to ask me a question, I'll answer it depending on how I feel. Like you did and I answered, same with Red even though my answer to him most would consider a non-answer, it's how I feel at this moment in time.

But I'm doing stuff by engaging which in turn gets other people to engage. That gives us more data to work with. The more data we have, the higher chance of getting scum during the D1 lynch.

It's unlikely we'll get scum D1 but the more we have to work with, the better the chances.
do you feel like you're a town leader right now?
 

Finster

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I reeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaally don't feel like I have to prove "the substance behind my posts" to someone who posted that

Let's look at your posts today.

cute


you're trying too hard

vote: blue ranger

Replying to a joke comment followed by a vote with a nothing comment

you should know

again, a nothing comment

oh man, people agreeing on not claiming needlessly

pump the breaks a little bit, these posts are too useful

A sarcastic comment

eh, your post is not that bad

the follow up by falkor the luckdragon over there, though, basically amounts to "PRs are good"
empty platitudes on D1 are not a good look

the fact that you consider being called falkor an insult is the bigger insult

you say "agree with a logical point", I say "trying to look busy"

yeah, no

nice try though

And our little exchange.

If you're going to call someone out for trying to look busy, then you might want to make sure your own post history looks good. As it stands, you look like a scum player trying to coast through by going after what you perceive as an easy target.

I also am aware that this runs the risk of people calling this an 'OMGUS' post but I don't think anyone can look at your post history and see it in a good light regardless.
 

Zack

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Replying to a joke comment followed by a vote with a nothing comment
the reasoning for my vote is succintly explained in that post, and I've further clarified what I meant by it. if you choose to simply ignore that, well, then it doesn't reflect well on your intentions

I also am aware that this runs the risk of people calling this an 'OMGUS' post
I'll say
 

Zack

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also, the "sarcastic comment" you're dismissing simply for being sarcastic has a million times more force behind it than "I like PRs"
 

Bulk

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I think it's pretty obvious the Black Ranger is trying to win some townie points but I honestly find Zack's "town leader" thing somewhat forced.
 

Zack

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to add something to my suspicions, this post here, ouch

If I'm mafia I can push on any town I want. Zeroing in on one inactive person makes me town. :-)
this is a huge leap, and I really don't know where it came from

since then pink has mostly been reasonable (asking about investment being alignment-indicative, and talking about the lynch/no lynch thing), but being reasonable is NAI
nothing in their other posts give me a stronger impression, positive or negative, than the one quoted above
 

Pink Ranger

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I think it's pretty obvious the Black Ranger is trying to win some townie points but I honestly find Zack's "town leader" thing somewhat forced.

Agreed. It is very early to be talking about town leaders. We have absoutely nothing to work with, no past experience to draw on. That Zack is sucking up to Black Ranger and calling them Town Leader when black ranger has a vote on them is extra sketch.

So Black Ranger is the town leader but you should know they are pushing on another town player. It makes no sense.
 

Kimberly

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to add something to my suspicions, this post here, ouch


this is a huge leap, and I really don't know where it came from

since then pink has mostly been reasonable (asking about investment being alignment-indicative, and talking about the lynch/no lynch thing), but being reasonable is NAI
nothing in their other posts give me a stronger impression, positive or negative, than the one quoted above
I agree with this. Also I tried to question this earlier but didn't get a response. Although, Pink did comment on Trini's post later and I agree that there has been a change since then. Pink is less on my radar at the moment
 

Zack

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Is it OMGUS or more of a "look to thine own self, sir" situation?
it's omgus because they just threw the accusation I made back at me, even though every single one of my posts has more "substance" (which is, an actual purpose other than stating the most blatantly obvious mafia rules) than the one post that started the whole thing

and also because they were the ones that made this an ongoing thing, instead of simply recognizing the obvious - that that one post they made was completely useless filler

and they when they went back for that reread of my posts, to make the "zack has no substance narrative" they had created on a whim, they had to dismiss a vote I'd backed up and an accusatory post directed at them simply because they didn't like the way I worded it. that's two or three posts that were unfairly dismissed out of a grand total of less than 10

I'm not saying they're 100% scum

but that's 100% omgus
 

Zack

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Agreed. It is very early to be talking about town leaders. We have absoutely nothing to work with, no past experience to draw on. That Zack is sucking up to Black Ranger and calling them Town Leader when black ranger has a vote on them is extra sketch.

So Black Ranger is the town leader but you should know they are pushing on another town player. It makes no sense.
town leader isn't a PR

town leader is a position you take in a game, whether you're town, scum, or neutral

in monopoly both grizzly and brazil were clear town leaders right off the bat on D1
only one of them was actually town

so your premise is flawed: I'm not sucking up to black. I'm not posting a read when I say that he's in a town leader position. I'm actually null on them right now
 

Bulk

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in monopoly both grizzly and brazil were clear town leaders right off the bat on D1
only one of them was actually town
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Pink Ranger

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town leader isn't a PR

town leader is a position you take in a game, whether you're town, scum, or neutral

in monopoly both grizzly and brazil were clear town leaders right off the bat on D1
only one of them was actually town

so your premise is flawed: I'm not sucking up to black. I'm not posting a read when I say that he's in a town leader position. I'm actually null on them right now

But why do you think they are town leader?

Who has said Black Ranger is town? No one has followed their vote on you.
 

Zack

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I disagree with this assessment. But what's the implication here? You trying to signal something here?
I wanted to see if they'd go for a subdued or an overly confident response

But why do you think they are town leader?

Who has said Black Ranger is town? No one has followed their vote on you.
I think black is positioning himself in a spot that allows him to direct the flow of conversations
they're commenting on every little squabble and event, and that way they're free to barge into conversations and give their opinions even unprompted

something to admire in a townie, something to fear in scum . a town leader role
 

Blue Ranger

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I wanted to see if they'd go for a subdued or an overly confident response


I think black is positioning himself in a spot that allows him to direct the flow of conversations
they're commenting on every little squabble and event, and that way they're free to barge into conversations and give their opinions even unprompted

something to admire in a townie, something to fear in scum . a town leader role
I don't think that's what makes a town leader though. It's more that they direct conversation and flow.
 

Zordon

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I wanted to see if they'd go for a subdued or an overly confident response


I think black is positioning himself in a spot that allows him to direct the flow of conversations
they're commenting on every little squabble and event, and that way they're free to barge into conversations and give their opinions even unprompted

something to admire in a townie, something to fear in scum . a town leader role
Your description sounds more like aggressive scum than town anything. Wonder if that says more about you or about Black Ranger.
 
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