koffOh yeah, I demand satisfaction for people calling the Rynam lynch lazy. I KNEW IT.
Rynam is a WASTED lynch; he's gonna get got.
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koffOh yeah, I demand satisfaction for people calling the Rynam lynch lazy. I KNEW IT.
Rynam is a WASTED lynch; he's gonna get got.
Tell me, Stu, exactly how is a rolecop better than a roleblocking godfather day one in a 50 person game? How is either better than the other? Just insisting it is isn't an argument for.
You've wanted me dead for a while though, Zipped qualifier is just a new veneer.
I scumread Zipped, but outside of lylo when there's something resembling a red check you lynch the check and if it turns out wrong you lynch the checker. Literally the only reason to lynch Zipped first would be his cagey additional claims that went unexplained. Otherwise you start with Vere and go from there.
"If they're not scum, well, it's okay, mafia would have got them anyway so let's save them the trouble instead of following other scum leads."If Zipped is telling the truth, we likely won't have a role cop come D3.
If for some unlikely reason, both Zipped and Vere were Role Cops for town, they are both probably dead if Mafia has multiple killing roles.
I don't see much to lose by testing Vere with a kill/lynch.
He's definitely not. You're really missing out if you haven't played a game with two JOATs. This game has 50 players and you think there can't be two JOATs...Already lost a scum JOAT.
So you're basically saying Zipped is town because I refuse to believe that Scum would have two JOATs
koff
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Oh, now I feel bad that you feel bad.Only since the start of this day, I never read you as scum until today due to my theory on why Grizzly gave up. Your actions have not made me feel better about you today and this is just the silver lining for me.
For when you return - yes, in a normal game, depending on the players and set up, sure. But this isn't a normal game. That's the whole point. It's fifty people with multiple killing roles and extra killing events. It seems illogical for scum to sacrifice scum to try to protect a role that won't even be useful for a while and by the time it is, may be dead. You don't sacrifice a teammate now for a maybe later.I'll answer this and then I'm off. like I said, 28+ hours now and I can barely think but this one should be VERY fucking obvious why keeping a role cop would be better.
This is a 50 person game, if they are mafia, they probably have quite a few powers as evidenced by the mafia kills so far.
Knowing this, a rope cop for scum means they can look for dangerous town powers of which I'm assuming there is quite a few and then kill them.
a RB only blocks and a Godfather helps with checks but a role cop is objectively better considering all the roles shown so far.
Scum having a role cop and wanting to protect the role cop makes complete and utter sense.
I think it's worth testing because I'm certain that Scum must have a role cop just due to the variety of roles in this game and with Scums low number, would help them immensely the longer the role cop lives.
I feel like you're trying way too hard to explain this. If you want to go this route then the easy counter is to ask why they wouldn't just jointly bus Rynam? His power definitely seems weaker than the other two. Sure it's an additional ITA, but it's an even weaker one and we've seen how reliable those are. Plus he wasn't even playing. We agree on how to resolve this, but your insistence on trying to analyze WIFOM bullshit is just going to lead you astray eventually.I'll answer this and then I'm off. like I said, 28+ hours now and I can barely think but this one should be VERY fucking obvious why keeping a role cop would be better.
This is a 50 person game, if they are mafia, they probably have quite a few powers as evidenced by the mafia kills so far.
Knowing this, a rope cop for scum means they can look for dangerous town powers of which I'm assuming there is quite a few and then kill them.
a RB only blocks and a Godfather helps with checks but a role cop is objectively better considering all the roles shown so far.
Scum having a role cop and wanting to protect the role cop makes complete and utter sense.
I think it's worth testing because I'm certain that Scum must have a role cop just due to the variety of roles in this game and with Scums low number, would help them immensely the longer the role cop lives.
I mean what you're saying is not that uncommon. It's not like we will be solely fixated on those two and won't talk about anything else.If we don't figure this out now it will only continue to be a topic of discussion every single day going forward. Do you think both are town?
THANK YOUI feel like you're trying way too hard to explain this. If you want to go this route then the easy counter is to ask why they wouldn't just jointly bus Rynam? His power definitely seems weaker than the other two. Sure it's an additional ITA, but it's an even weaker one and we've seen how reliable those are. Plus he wasn't even playing. We agree on how to resolve this, but your insistence on trying to analyze WIFOM bullshit is just going to lead you astray eventually.
at home, finally getting a chance to reread the td event. Melon has to be scum. She pushed for the no lynch so hard, after she caused the event in the first place.
I was holding this gif in reserve for later! Goddamnitkoff
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You should be fine. I doubt anyone will ITA you. Maybe Vere, but even Vere seems more bent on Zipped than anything else.(why can't I just leave this and go. z.z)
I'm almost worried now that I'll be taken out during an ITA.
great minds and all, muffsI was holding this gif in reserve for later! Goddamnit
Grizzly bussed me the one game we played scum together in.Okay before I go.
Grizzly has a history of bussing. He may have started it thinking it wouldn't gain traction. When it did, a role cop for scum helps them a lot.
I believe Zippeds claim so lynch Vere because no way does Town have two role cops nor would scum I'm sure.
If Vere is Scum, Zipped is cleared, if not scum, Zipped dies. You can even go after me then for pushing this.
If he's scum, this post of yours won't look good either as it looks like a save attempt considering how many scum died already.
True that.You should be fine. I doubt anyone will ITA you. Maybe Vere, but even Vere seems more bent on Zipped than anything else.
I am Elektra, my role is town role cop. and when I checked Verelios I got a PM saying that your target is a role cop.@Zippedpinhead if it comes down to it do you plan to divulge anything regarding the additional claims you made?
Matrix dodging? I have been barely playing... that's so far below dodging its not even funny.I'm disappointed in Stuart and anyone else just straight up believing zipped with little to no thought. The dude has been straight up matrix dodging everything leveled at him instead of actually trying to defend himself. Take a quick trip back and look if you want to see him straw-manning fools instead of actually addressing anything.
I'm out, I trust there'll be some more exiting fun times for me to read over when I'm back.
I am Elektra, my role is town role cop. and when I checked Verelios I got a PM saying that your target is a role cop.
I am also 1 time bullet proof. Works for ITAs (once) or night time (once), and doesn't work for Lynches.
I was trying to insinuate that we had the same role without claiming role cop, but then I realized how stupid that was and just went all in.
So the other portions of your claim were just lies/red herrings I guess?I am Elektra, my role is town role cop. and when I checked Verelios I got a PM saying that your target is a role cop.
I am also 1 time bullet proof. Works for ITAs (once) or night time (once), and doesn't work for Lynches.
I was trying to insinuate that we had the same role without claiming role cop, but then I realized how stupid that was and just went all in.
at home, finally getting a chance to reread the td event. Melon has to be scum. She pushed for the no lynch so hard, after she caused the event in the first place.
Scum zipped gets a team mate to ITA Vere or NKs him night 2.I just need someone to explain to me why a scum Zipped does any of this if you're going to continue to act so indignant. He'd basically have to be neutral with a specific goal that involves Vere.
red herrings. never lied. Its still something I used (my ability).So the other portions of your claim were just lies/red herrings I guess?
Not even commenting on how this is bs or how you switched up when Natiko saved your assI am Elektra, my role is town role cop. and when I checked Verelios I got a PM saying that your target is a role cop.
I am also 1 time bullet proof. Works for ITAs (once) or night time (once), and doesn't work for Lynches.
I was trying to insinuate that we had the same role without claiming role cop, but then I realized how stupid that was and just went all in.
Now that we have the full claim I don't see much scum motivation (especially with all the deaths) for it or any reason to doubt unless he goes unkilled for a day or two after this claim. I just think the result is not necessarily "Vere is scum" and definitely not proof that "Vere is scum on Grizzly's team." I'm not saying Vere is clear. I'm saying we don't have enough info and that's a weird result. But I want to see Vere's response to the full claim.I just need someone to explain to me why a scum Zipped does any of this if you're going to continue to act so indignant. He'd basically have to be neutral with a specific goal that involves Vere.
so shoot me next event and test my role.Not even commenting on how this is bs or how you switched up when Natiko saved your ass
I think that the zipped Vere matter is more complicated than we think. Zipped has no real reason to come out like this as scum, even as scum rolecop. You just don't risk it after 3 scum died on the same day. And on the other hand Vere being a role cop doesn't make all that much sense either because he would've said so to counter claim Zipped.
Damn straight you fakeso shoot me next event and test my role.
I..don't think I understand? With your ability you identified both a role cop and an even night doctor and that a strong shot was used by scum?red herrings. never lied. Its still something I used (my ability).
Dude go to sleep pls. I'm legit worrying about you.Counter claiming would basically be saying Zipped is right. First person to claim is usually the one that survives because Liars get lynched right?
You're right, you also don't risk it after 3 scum died on the same day.
Dude go to sleep pls. I'm legit worrying about you.
But not necessarily on your first point. It depends.
odd night doctor died, implies even night doctor existsI..don't think I understand? With your ability you identified both a role cop and an even night doctor and that a strong shot was used by scum?
Just saying what I remember seeing tbf.
(And yeah, I probably should. I'm just interested in this. Damnit game/zipped lol... damn 29 hours awake z.z)
Okay, so more inferences. I thought you were saying you explicitly knew these things which didn't make any sense with your claim.odd night doctor died, implies even night doctor exists
Scum JOAT died, had strong kill as ability.
So its possible we don't have a second doctor, but why limit a doctor to odd nights in a 50 person game?
Its possible that scum still has a strong kill ability on them, but usually those get used first to limit the whole "dying" thing.
Zipped speculating about balance gives me town!Zipped vibes.odd night doctor died, implies even night doctor exists
Scum JOAT died, had strong kill as ability.
So its possible we don't have a second doctor, but why limit a doctor to odd nights in a 50 person game?
Its possible that scum still has a strong kill ability on them, but usually those get used first to limit the whole "dying" thing.
@Brazil brehZipped speculating about balance gives me town!Zipped vibes.
(Still not even close to caught up, don't @ me)
We're going to have a 50 person room but he's the only one in my eyesGET A ROOM YOU TWO
Y'all anarchists
I didn't know this was Love Boat 3?We're going to have a 50 person room but he's the only one in my eyes
BREH PLZY'all anarchists
Love is forevah baby, yassI didn't know this was Love Boat 3?
Melon you havent been clear about something.
You couldnt mention anything about your power/role at all day one? You couldnt answer any question regarding your role at all? I saw your post earlier but it wasnt very clear.
You couldnt claim no, but if someone said, did you do the thunderdome? Could you answer it?I've answered this several times.
No. I couldn't claim.
I couldn't foreshadow it with breadcrumbs.
@Sawneeks, your interaction(s) with Splinter felt off. So I took a chance at it.
You couldnt claim no, but if someone said, did you do the thunderdome? Could you answer it?
Cuz Saw asked and you ignored them. I was just wondering if that was the reason whyy.
Hope all is well Include! We'll only mildly consider shooting you in your absence.off-topic not game related
I am really sorry guys, I am not in the right state of mind to play right now and I don't want anyone to be the victim of my IRL stress/anger. Maybe I will be here in few hours after resting and having some food in me, or maybe I will be here tomorrow IRL time (not game time) instead.
/off topic
off-topic not game related
I am really sorry guys, I am not in the right state of mind to play right now and I don't want anyone to be the victim of my IRL stress/anger. Maybe I will be here in few hours after resting and having some food in me, or maybe I will be here tomorrow IRL time (not game time) instead.
/off topic
Take care, Include! Game will still be here later.off-topic not game related
I am really sorry guys, I am not in the right state of mind to play right now and I don't want anyone to be the victim of my IRL stress/anger. Maybe I will be here in few hours after resting and having some food in me, or maybe I will be here tomorrow IRL time (not game time) instead.
/off topic
I've answered this several times.
No. I couldn't claim.
I couldn't foreshadow it with breadcrumbs..
Answering the timing stuff gets into real life and this an iffy question to push. And yes, you won't see any breadcrumbs. I've already said that.
No. Because that's claiming too?
Take care of your business, no worriesoff-topic not game related
I am really sorry guys, I am not in the right state of mind to play right now and I don't want anyone to be the victim of my IRL stress/anger. Maybe I will be here in few hours after resting and having some food in me, or maybe I will be here tomorrow IRL time (not game time) instead.
/off topic
I've answered this several times.
No. I couldn't claim.
I couldn't foreshadow it with breadcrumbs.
@Sawneeks, your interaction(s) with Splinter felt off. So I took a chance at it.
off-topic not game related
I am really sorry guys, I am not in the right state of mind to play right now and I don't want anyone to be the victim of my IRL stress/anger. Maybe I will be here in few hours after resting and having some food in me, or maybe I will be here tomorrow IRL time (not game time) instead.
/off topic
You want to expand on that or is it more '''''gut feels'''''
Sawneeks asks directly about who did the TD.True. I am know I am town. It is possible that Splinter is as well.
A tie will result in a no lynch scenario.
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COME AND FACE ME, @Splinter
I will be a gentlemelon and withhold my vote until you give you reasons why you aren't the scummiest most arch-nemesis ever.
your precious melon vs that evil mean cocky splinter.
i am town guys. I love you all.
I asked you about the wagon on Monkey (whom you never fully voted for but didn't care), then me and Terra politely talked about stuff regarding his all but proven Ferg theory and Splinter was his normal ominous self.
That seems a fair and balanced decision :/
I am Prince(ess) Namor, The Amazing and Cute Melon.
I'm glad you're really giving this detailed thought @Zubz
How do you remember it?
My memory sucks.
Considering you were on Faddy's case for going no lynch this seems hypocritical.
If you feel my character name is enough to vote for me, vote for me. Don't suddenly get cold feet now.
True. I am know I am town. It is possible that Splinter is as well.
A tie will result in a no lynch scenario.
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COME AND FACE ME, @Splinter
I will be a gentlemelon and withhold my vote until you give you reasons why you aren't the scummiest most arch-nemesis ever.
Please be excited.
You don't have a strong read on much, given this is your second post in the entire thread.
I love you too.
Will you confirm your X 23 for flavor transparency?
Trigger pulled the trigger and left.
Hmm.
Vote: No Lynch
Wow. Y'all are bloodthirsty.
And yet I wasn't killing him: I was saving us both.
Thank you for defending my honor, @StanleyPalmtree. You're a true prince.
You still get to lynch someone once the thunderdome concludes.
After that post, Splinter votes no lynch saying he reads Melon as town and told her he is X23.
That's not the argument here. No one is saying no murders ever.
Quit being dense. Giving scum the potential to take out two town players isn't optimal play and you know it.
Gotta be honest, these melon votes are a bit weird
Yet we have no less than 5 unreasoned voted for melon. I'd wager that at least some of these are scum trying to split themselves between the two options.
You could always switch to no lynch and shoot my slanderers tomorrow.
Wow. Y'all are bloodthirsty.
And yet I wasn't killing him: I was saving us both.
You still get to lynch someone once the thunderdome concludes.
That's not the argument here. No one is saying no murders ever.
Quit being dense. Giving scum the potential to take out two town players isn't optimal play and you know it.
You could always switch to no lynch and shoot my slanderers tomorrow.
This is odd, considering she was the one that started this in the first place.Quit being dense. Giving scum the potential to take out two town players isn't optimal play and you know it.
Her and Splinter did save both of them.Wow. Y'all are bloodthirsty. And yet I wasn't killing him: I was saving us both.
That last line, we now know 3/5 are town.Gotta be honest, these melon votes are a bit weird
There's more than I'd expect, and none of them give a reason. (I left out Gorlak who did give a reason, though none of these people commented on it.)
The votes for me at least have reasons, mostly that melon is more active. If I was a third party and felt forced to choose (ignoring no lynch), that's probably what I'd do too.
Yet we have no less than 5 unreasoned voted for melon. I'd wager that at least some of these are scum trying to split themselves between the two options.
Most Town?
And after that Thunderdome, I feel much better about Splinter who was calm and cool under pressure despite waking up to something I suspect was less than favorable with him being the lead in a surprise event.
Gut feelings.
Combined with the flipfloppy post on Splints motivation and his flip.
Is Ezekel Lifeline?
Next event in three hours!Unless I'm SUPER blind Vere hasn't actually directly disagreed with Zipped that he is not a Role Cop. He just keeps attacking Zipped for everything else.
would shoot.
If we do believe he is a reflect I'm willing to shoot him and see what happens just in case the shot bounces back.Next event in three hours!
No one doesWhat is Lifeline?
I do not comprehend.
No one does
If we do believe he is a reflect I'm willing to shoot him and see what happens just in case the shot bounces back.
Lifeline is a player who is very... insistent... on his theories.Is this a person or a PR of some kind?
Lifeline is a player. He once nailed the entire scum team on day 1 using wild theories so no one believed him but he was right in the end.Is this a person or a PR of some kind?
I'm not receptive to role fishing, but more than that it's true so *shrug. I disagree that Sorian made the game so bastard he would only give Zipped BP though.Unless I'm SUPER blind Vere hasn't actually directly disagreed with Zipped that he is not a Role Cop. He just keeps attacking Zipped for everything else.
would shoot.
@EzekelRAGE is the Book of Rage a real page-turner?