Game Thread Marvel Heroes Mafia - Half of You Will Enjoy This

heymonkey

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Oh yeah, I demand satisfaction for people calling the Rynam lynch lazy. I KNEW IT.
koff
Rynam is a WASTED lynch; he's gonna get got.
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Tell me, Stu, exactly how is a rolecop better than a roleblocking godfather day one in a 50 person game? How is either better than the other? Just insisting it is isn't an argument for.

I'll answer this and then I'm off. like I said, 28+ hours now and I can barely think but this one should be VERY fucking obvious why keeping a role cop would be better.

This is a 50 person game, if they are mafia, they probably have quite a few powers as evidenced by the mafia kills so far.

Knowing this, a rope cop for scum means they can look for dangerous town powers of which I'm assuming there is quite a few and then kill them.

a RB only blocks and a Godfather helps with checks but a role cop is objectively better considering all the roles shown so far.

Scum having a role cop and wanting to protect the role cop makes complete and utter sense.

I think it's worth testing because I'm certain that Scum must have a role cop just due to the variety of roles in this game and with Scums low number, would help them immensely the longer the role cop lives.
 
You've wanted me dead for a while though, Zipped qualifier is just a new veneer.
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Only since the start of this day, I never read you as scum until today due to my theory on why Grizzly gave up. Your actions have not made me feel better about you today and this is just the silver lining for me.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I scumread Zipped, but outside of lylo when there's something resembling a red check you lynch the check and if it turns out wrong you lynch the checker. Literally the only reason to lynch Zipped first would be his cagey additional claims that went unexplained. Otherwise you start with Vere and go from there.
 
I scumread Zipped, but outside of lylo when there's something resembling a red check you lynch the check and if it turns out wrong you lynch the checker. Literally the only reason to lynch Zipped first would be his cagey additional claims that went unexplained. Otherwise you start with Vere and go from there.

This is also what I have learned from my previous games.

Okay now. nn all. have fun
 

heymonkey

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If Zipped is telling the truth, we likely won't have a role cop come D3.

If for some unlikely reason, both Zipped and Vere were Role Cops for town, they are both probably dead if Mafia has multiple killing roles.

I don't see much to lose by testing Vere with a kill/lynch.
"If they're not scum, well, it's okay, mafia would have got them anyway so let's save them the trouble instead of following other scum leads."

Dude, no. And it's not like these are the only possibilities to follow. And I frankly don't even think they're good ones.
 
Already lost a scum JOAT.

So you're basically saying Zipped is town because I refuse to believe that Scum would have two JOATs
He's definitely not. You're really missing out if you haven't played a game with two JOATs. This game has 50 players and you think there can't be two JOATs...

The role meta of some of you guys has me perplexed as hell.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Only since the start of this day, I never read you as scum until today due to my theory on why Grizzly gave up. Your actions have not made me feel better about you today and this is just the silver lining for me.
Oh, now I feel bad that you feel bad.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
at home, finally getting a chance to reread the td event. Melon has to be scum. She pushed for the no lynch so hard, after she caused the event in the first place.
 

heymonkey

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I'll answer this and then I'm off. like I said, 28+ hours now and I can barely think but this one should be VERY fucking obvious why keeping a role cop would be better.

This is a 50 person game, if they are mafia, they probably have quite a few powers as evidenced by the mafia kills so far.

Knowing this, a rope cop for scum means they can look for dangerous town powers of which I'm assuming there is quite a few and then kill them.

a RB only blocks and a Godfather helps with checks but a role cop is objectively better considering all the roles shown so far.

Scum having a role cop and wanting to protect the role cop makes complete and utter sense.

I think it's worth testing because I'm certain that Scum must have a role cop just due to the variety of roles in this game and with Scums low number, would help them immensely the longer the role cop lives.
For when you return - yes, in a normal game, depending on the players and set up, sure. But this isn't a normal game. That's the whole point. It's fifty people with multiple killing roles and extra killing events. It seems illogical for scum to sacrifice scum to try to protect a role that won't even be useful for a while and by the time it is, may be dead. You don't sacrifice a teammate now for a maybe later.

It's not impossible. Scum makes mistakes like anyone else. But it's illogical and unlikely and it completely ignores all the other possible explanations for anything that might be happening with Zipped's claim.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I'll answer this and then I'm off. like I said, 28+ hours now and I can barely think but this one should be VERY fucking obvious why keeping a role cop would be better.

This is a 50 person game, if they are mafia, they probably have quite a few powers as evidenced by the mafia kills so far.

Knowing this, a rope cop for scum means they can look for dangerous town powers of which I'm assuming there is quite a few and then kill them.

a RB only blocks and a Godfather helps with checks but a role cop is objectively better considering all the roles shown so far.

Scum having a role cop and wanting to protect the role cop makes complete and utter sense.

I think it's worth testing because I'm certain that Scum must have a role cop just due to the variety of roles in this game and with Scums low number, would help them immensely the longer the role cop lives.
I feel like you're trying way too hard to explain this. If you want to go this route then the easy counter is to ask why they wouldn't just jointly bus Rynam? His power definitely seems weaker than the other two. Sure it's an additional ITA, but it's an even weaker one and we've seen how reliable those are. Plus he wasn't even playing. We agree on how to resolve this, but your insistence on trying to analyze WIFOM bullshit is just going to lead you astray eventually.
 
If we don't figure this out now it will only continue to be a topic of discussion every single day going forward. Do you think both are town?
I mean what you're saying is not that uncommon. It's not like we will be solely fixated on those two and won't talk about anything else.

I'm not sure if I think both are town, but currently I do not see Vere as scum. Zipped is a more peculiar case. I had a slight scum read on him and he's at the top of my reread pile. Then there's the fact of the questions I posed to him before. Several of his statements in the claim are really off to me. I'd rather ITA Zipped than Vere right about now.
 

heymonkey

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I feel like you're trying way too hard to explain this. If you want to go this route then the easy counter is to ask why they wouldn't just jointly bus Rynam? His power definitely seems weaker than the other two. Sure it's an additional ITA, but it's an even weaker one and we've seen how reliable those are. Plus he wasn't even playing. We agree on how to resolve this, but your insistence on trying to analyze WIFOM bullshit is just going to lead you astray eventually.
THANK YOU
 

heymonkey

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Anyway, I got caught up
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Alexem's vote on Rynam looks legit so I'll pass on him for now. Will revote later after I have some time to consider Ynnek possibilities but for now it's back to work.
 
Okay before I go.

Grizzly has a history of bussing. He may have started it thinking it wouldn't gain traction. When it did, a role cop for scum helps them a lot.

I believe Zippeds claim so lynch Vere because no way does Town have two role cops nor would scum I'm sure.

If Vere is Scum, Zipped is cleared, if not scum, Zipped dies. You can even go after me then for pushing this.

If he's scum, this post of yours won't look good either as it looks like a save attempt considering how many scum died already.
Grizzly bussed me the one game we played scum together in.
 
I'm disappointed in Stuart and anyone else just straight up believing zipped with little to no thought. The dude has been straight up matrix dodging everything leveled at him instead of actually trying to defend himself. Take a quick trip back and look if you want to see him straw-manning fools instead of actually addressing anything.

I'm out, I trust there'll be some more exiting fun times for me to read over when I'm back.
 
@Zippedpinhead if it comes down to it do you plan to divulge anything regarding the additional claims you made?
I am Elektra, my role is town role cop. and when I checked Verelios I got a PM saying that your target is a role cop.

I am also 1 time bullet proof. Works for ITAs (once) or night time (once), and doesn't work for Lynches.

I was trying to insinuate that we had the same role without claiming role cop, but then I realized how stupid that was and just went all in.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I just need someone to explain to me why a scum Zipped does any of this if you're going to continue to act so indignant. He'd basically have to be neutral with a specific goal that involves Vere.
 
I'm disappointed in Stuart and anyone else just straight up believing zipped with little to no thought. The dude has been straight up matrix dodging everything leveled at him instead of actually trying to defend himself. Take a quick trip back and look if you want to see him straw-manning fools instead of actually addressing anything.

I'm out, I trust there'll be some more exiting fun times for me to read over when I'm back.
Matrix dodging? I have been barely playing... that's so far below dodging its not even funny.
 
I am Elektra, my role is town role cop. and when I checked Verelios I got a PM saying that your target is a role cop.

I am also 1 time bullet proof. Works for ITAs (once) or night time (once), and doesn't work for Lynches.

I was trying to insinuate that we had the same role without claiming role cop, but then I realized how stupid that was and just went all in.

So if you're right and Vere dies. You're dead if Scum has a BP-bypass kill (is that Strongman? Not sure)
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I am Elektra, my role is town role cop. and when I checked Verelios I got a PM saying that your target is a role cop.

I am also 1 time bullet proof. Works for ITAs (once) or night time (once), and doesn't work for Lynches.

I was trying to insinuate that we had the same role without claiming role cop, but then I realized how stupid that was and just went all in.
So the other portions of your claim were just lies/red herrings I guess?
 
I just need someone to explain to me why a scum Zipped does any of this if you're going to continue to act so indignant. He'd basically have to be neutral with a specific goal that involves Vere.
Scum zipped gets a team mate to ITA Vere or NKs him night 2.
 
I think that the zipped Vere matter is more complicated than we think. Zipped has no real reason to come out like this as scum, even as scum rolecop. You just don't risk it after 3 scum died on the same day. And on the other hand Vere being a role cop doesn't make all that much sense either because he would've said so to counter claim Zipped.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
I am Elektra, my role is town role cop. and when I checked Verelios I got a PM saying that your target is a role cop.

I am also 1 time bullet proof. Works for ITAs (once) or night time (once), and doesn't work for Lynches.

I was trying to insinuate that we had the same role without claiming role cop, but then I realized how stupid that was and just went all in.
Not even commenting on how this is bs or how you switched up when Natiko saved your ass
 

heymonkey

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I just need someone to explain to me why a scum Zipped does any of this if you're going to continue to act so indignant. He'd basically have to be neutral with a specific goal that involves Vere.
Now that we have the full claim I don't see much scum motivation (especially with all the deaths) for it or any reason to doubt unless he goes unkilled for a day or two after this claim. I just think the result is not necessarily "Vere is scum" and definitely not proof that "Vere is scum on Grizzly's team." I'm not saying Vere is clear. I'm saying we don't have enough info and that's a weird result. But I want to see Vere's response to the full claim.

okay, back to work for real
 

heymonkey

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dammit Vere, I'm trying to leave and you got all interesting
well, it'll be here after I finish this page
 
I think that the zipped Vere matter is more complicated than we think. Zipped has no real reason to come out like this as scum, even as scum rolecop. You just don't risk it after 3 scum died on the same day. And on the other hand Vere being a role cop doesn't make all that much sense either because he would've said so to counter claim Zipped.

Counter claiming would basically be saying Zipped is right. First person to claim is usually the one that survives because Liars get lynched right?

You're right, you also don't risk it after 3 scum died on the same day.
 
Counter claiming would basically be saying Zipped is right. First person to claim is usually the one that survives because Liars get lynched right?

You're right, you also don't risk it after 3 scum died on the same day.
Dude go to sleep pls. I'm legit worrying about you.
But not necessarily on your first point. It depends.
 
Dude go to sleep pls. I'm legit worrying about you.
But not necessarily on your first point. It depends.

Just saying what I remember seeing tbf.

(And yeah, I probably should. I'm just interested in this. Damnit game/zipped lol... damn 29 hours awake z.z)
 
I..don't think I understand? With your ability you identified both a role cop and an even night doctor and that a strong shot was used by scum?
odd night doctor died, implies even night doctor exists
Scum JOAT died, had strong kill as ability.

So its possible we don't have a second doctor, but why limit a doctor to odd nights in a 50 person game?
Its possible that scum still has a strong kill ability on them, but usually those get used first to limit the whole "dying" thing.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
odd night doctor died, implies even night doctor exists
Scum JOAT died, had strong kill as ability.

So its possible we don't have a second doctor, but why limit a doctor to odd nights in a 50 person game?
Its possible that scum still has a strong kill ability on them, but usually those get used first to limit the whole "dying" thing.
Okay, so more inferences. I thought you were saying you explicitly knew these things which didn't make any sense with your claim.
 

Nomad Sparkster

This is some wild shit maynard
Zip is baiting Verelios into shooting him.

If Verelios is scum, then Verelios is not a good scum player for shooting at the nearest townie and not talking with his scum crew

If Zip is scum and Verelios is town, then that changes the whole way this conversation is being looked at it

either way this Vere/Zip is real interesting
 
odd night doctor died, implies even night doctor exists
Scum JOAT died, had strong kill as ability.

So its possible we don't have a second doctor, but why limit a doctor to odd nights in a 50 person game?
Its possible that scum still has a strong kill ability on them, but usually those get used first to limit the whole "dying" thing.
Zipped speculating about balance gives me town!Zipped vibes.

(Still not even close to caught up, don't @ me)
 

Kawl

Owner of the Gun Show
Verelios was a pretty likely target for any cop checks. So you know if I had a power that fucked with powers scum me wouldn’t find town Vere an awful target to sow confusion.
 

Nomad Sparkster

This is some wild shit maynard
Dead SCUM
Rynam
Splinter
Bear

I'd speculate that either Verelios or Zipped is another part of the scum crew but I can't tell whether this tussle is for real or just a facade?
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
hahahahahahaha

I was dead wrong about the conclusion but i'll take some points for being right that splinter was hiding something

welcome, brazil <3
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
what the fuck @melonrabbit and Kyan ? Can't really ask Kyan but why on earth did you try and shoot me, Melon?

also feel for the scum team with that Ry flip. Having an inactive member is the worst but....at least we got him.

anyway, gonna breakfast and then catch up with the rest. brb
 

Mazre

Traitor of Humanity
Re Zipped/Vere

I can't come up with a sensible angle for a scum Zipped in this scenario. I also don't think Zipped's claims would strictly indicate scum Vere. Kawl's take above seems pretty reasonable as well too.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Melon you havent been clear about something.

You couldnt mention anything about your power/role at all day one? You couldnt answer any question regarding your role at all? I saw your post earlier but it wasnt very clear.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Melon you havent been clear about something.

You couldnt mention anything about your power/role at all day one? You couldnt answer any question regarding your role at all? I saw your post earlier but it wasnt very clear.

I've answered this several times.

No. I couldn't claim.
I couldn't foreshadow it with breadcrumbs.

@Sawneeks, your interaction(s) with Splinter felt off. So I took a chance at it.
 
off-topic not game related

I am really sorry guys, I am not in the right state of mind to play right now and I don't want anyone to be the victim of my IRL stress/anger. Maybe I will be here in few hours after resting and having some food in me, or maybe I will be here tomorrow IRL time (not game time) instead.

/off topic
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
I've answered this several times.

No. I couldn't claim.
I couldn't foreshadow it with breadcrumbs.

@Sawneeks, your interaction(s) with Splinter felt off. So I took a chance at it.
You couldnt claim no, but if someone said, did you do the thunderdome? Could you answer it?

Cuz Saw asked and you ignored them. I was just wondering if that was the reason whyy.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
off-topic not game related

I am really sorry guys, I am not in the right state of mind to play right now and I don't want anyone to be the victim of my IRL stress/anger. Maybe I will be here in few hours after resting and having some food in me, or maybe I will be here tomorrow IRL time (not game time) instead.

/off topic
Hope all is well Include! We'll only mildly consider shooting you in your absence.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
off-topic not game related

I am really sorry guys, I am not in the right state of mind to play right now and I don't want anyone to be the victim of my IRL stress/anger. Maybe I will be here in few hours after resting and having some food in me, or maybe I will be here tomorrow IRL time (not game time) instead.

/off topic

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Always here for you, dear Cordy.
 

Ynnek7

OH MY GOD, THEY LYNCHED YNNEK
off-topic not game related

I am really sorry guys, I am not in the right state of mind to play right now and I don't want anyone to be the victim of my IRL stress/anger. Maybe I will be here in few hours after resting and having some food in me, or maybe I will be here tomorrow IRL time (not game time) instead.

/off topic
Take care, Include! Game will still be here later.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
This isnt the post ive been workin on, but just a quick thing i noticed. I needed her to clarify because I wanted to see what she says.

I've answered this several times.
No. I couldn't claim.
I couldn't foreshadow it with breadcrumbs..

Answering the timing stuff gets into real life and this an iffy question to push. And yes, you won't see any breadcrumbs. I've already said that.

But in these posts she directly says she didnt do the TD. I used images cuz it was simpler for me. But have no problem goin back and getting the links.
Faddy is asking if melon thinks Splinter did the TD.
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She clarifies she cant even yes/no questions regarding her role
No. Because that's claiming too?
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Verelios

Were-elios
off-topic not game related

I am really sorry guys, I am not in the right state of mind to play right now and I don't want anyone to be the victim of my IRL stress/anger. Maybe I will be here in few hours after resting and having some food in me, or maybe I will be here tomorrow IRL time (not game time) instead.

/off topic
Take care of your business, no worries
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
I've answered this several times.

No. I couldn't claim.
I couldn't foreshadow it with breadcrumbs.

@Sawneeks, your interaction(s) with Splinter felt off. So I took a chance at it.

You want to expand on that or is it more '''''gut feels'''''

off-topic not game related

I am really sorry guys, I am not in the right state of mind to play right now and I don't want anyone to be the victim of my IRL stress/anger. Maybe I will be here in few hours after resting and having some food in me, or maybe I will be here tomorrow IRL time (not game time) instead.

/off topic

Feel better soon, Include <3
 

heymonkey

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Staff member
I remember that “not god of thunder” post sticking out as very weird. I can see it as avoiding the question. In fact it would explain several things about melon’s posts that felt a little odd. Not AI, just odd.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Melon - Claimed Town Gladiator
Randomly does event when most of town are sleep. - Says due to real life concerns
Chooses Splinter and herself as the combatants - Says she is forced to be in it.(???) but chose splinter due to hate.
Says she couldn't mention anything about being a gladitor. - She only mentions this after I said I would go look at posts where she breadcrumbed or hinted at it. And why she didnt call bs on Kawl's claim he did it.

A look at her posts during the event. Her along with Ynn plant the seeds of maybe both are town and mention a no lynch scenario.
True. I am know I am town. It is possible that Splinter is as well.

A tie will result in a no lynch scenario.
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COME AND FACE ME, @Splinter
I will be a gentlemelon and withhold my vote until you give you reasons why you aren't the scummiest most arch-nemesis ever.
Sawneeks asks directly about who did the TD.

Melon's posts during the event: Largely would be classified as shitposting? Doesnt move conversation forward or anything.
your precious melon vs that evil mean cocky splinter.

i am town guys. I love you all.

I asked you about the wagon on Monkey (whom you never fully voted for but didn't care), then me and Terra politely talked about stuff regarding his all but proven Ferg theory and Splinter was his normal ominous self.

That seems a fair and balanced decision :/

I am Prince(ess) Namor, The Amazing and Cute Melon.

I'm glad you're really giving this detailed thought @Zubz

How do you remember it?

My memory sucks.

Considering you were on Faddy's case for going no lynch this seems hypocritical.

If you feel my character name is enough to vote for me, vote for me. Don't suddenly get cold feet now.

True. I am know I am town. It is possible that Splinter is as well.

A tie will result in a no lynch scenario.

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COME AND FACE ME, @Splinter

I will be a gentlemelon and withhold my vote until you give you reasons why you aren't the scummiest most arch-nemesis ever.

Please be excited.

You don't have a strong read on much, given this is your second post in the entire thread.

I love you too.

Will you confirm your X 23 for flavor transparency?

Trigger pulled the trigger and left.



Hmm.

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Vote: No Lynch

Wow. Y'all are bloodthirsty.



And yet I wasn't killing him: I was saving us both.

Thank you for defending my honor, @StanleyPalmtree. You're a true prince.

You still get to lynch someone once the thunderdome concludes.

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That's not the argument here. No one is saying no murders ever.

Quit being dense. Giving scum the potential to take out two town players isn't optimal play and you know it.
After that post, Splinter votes no lynch saying he reads Melon as town and told her he is X23.
This was enough to convince melon to flip to a no lynch. Nothing else.

Gotta be honest, these melon votes are a bit weird

Yet we have no less than 5 unreasoned voted for melon. I'd wager that at least some of these are scum trying to split themselves between the two options.

You could always switch to no lynch and shoot my slanderers tomorrow.

Well except going out of her way to push a no lynch

Wow. Y'all are bloodthirsty.



And yet I wasn't killing him: I was saving us both.

You still get to lynch someone once the thunderdome concludes.

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That's not the argument here. No one is saying no murders ever.

Quit being dense. Giving scum the potential to take out two town players isn't optimal play and you know it.

You could always switch to no lynch and shoot my slanderers tomorrow.

The quotes that stick out most to me

Quit being dense. Giving scum the potential to take out two town players isn't optimal play and you know it.
This is odd, considering she was the one that started this in the first place.
Wow. Y'all are bloodthirsty. And yet I wasn't killing him: I was saving us both.
Her and Splinter did save both of them.
Her only meaningful posts are those for a no lynch.

Splinter's no lynch push

Ky/nin/hecht/homeland/trigger all have votes on melon. Splint chimes in with

Gotta be honest, these melon votes are a bit weird

There's more than I'd expect, and none of them give a reason. (I left out Gorlak who did give a reason, though none of these people commented on it.)

The votes for me at least have reasons, mostly that melon is more active. If I was a third party and felt forced to choose (ignoring no lynch), that's probably what I'd do too.

Yet we have no less than 5 unreasoned voted for melon. I'd wager that at least some of these are scum trying to split themselves between the two options.
That last line, we now know 3/5 are town.
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Post TD
Most Town?
And after that Thunderdome, I feel much better about Splinter who was calm and cool under pressure despite waking up to something I suspect was less than favorable with him being the lead in a surprise event.

There was zero pressure on Splint, especially wiht both Splint and Melon pushing the no lynch.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Unless I'm SUPER blind Vere hasn't actually directly disagreed with Zipped that he is not a Role Cop. He just keeps attacking Zipped for everything else.

would shoot.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
For some inside baseball, next ITA event will be closer to 15 or 20 past the hour, I’m usually just walking in the door from work right when that timer hits.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Unless I'm SUPER blind Vere hasn't actually directly disagreed with Zipped that he is not a Role Cop. He just keeps attacking Zipped for everything else.

would shoot.
I'm not receptive to role fishing, but more than that it's true so *shrug. I disagree that Sorian made the game so bastard he would only give Zipped BP though.
 
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