Game Thread Marvel Heroes Mafia - Half of You Will Enjoy This

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Sorry, what? If she flips green, I said we should go after the person she said she flipped with but I'm also realizing some people may think we were lying so I gave the other option.

That said, I think it'd be stupid since Include said earlier that we got a red check but still brought up the possibility and some will think we've been lying.
my bad, misread
 
Also giving this some thought but what if Include is a JOAT for scum? I remember earlier thinking that couldn't be possible yet others think it could be.

If she was a JOAT for scum, sacrificing another scum player with a weaker PR would make a bit of sense so none of it clears Include regardless.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Also I do not believe Include at all and I feel people who do are doing so too easily because they want to believe her.
Sounds familar. With the exception of the red check. Include has been just as "convienent" and dodgy as melon. in regards to answering things.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Are you guys trying to hammer this early or something?
Include has posted that she wont be able to go into detail until later when she gets less busy.
We still need to give Nat time to respond after his soft claim.

Nothing buy time folks.
 

Kawl

Owner of the Gun Show
Also giving this some thought but what if Include is a JOAT for scum? I remember earlier thinking that couldn't be possible yet others think it could be.

If she was a JOAT for scum, sacrificing another scum player with a weaker PR would make a bit of sense so none of it clears Include regardless.
A second scum joat?
 

rac

whatever
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Are you guys trying to hammer this early or something?
Include has posted that she wont be able to go into detail until later when she gets less busy.
We still need to give Nat time to respond after his soft claim.

Nothing buy time folks.

We're in no danger of turbo so I'm not worried and I'd like to hear about their soft claim anyway because Include being scum does not clear Nat anyway. Need to hear more.

A second scum joat?

Like I said in my post, I thought it wasn't possible but others came back against me because of it. I don't have experience in crazy ass games but if two JOATs on one team is a possibility then it's worth considering.


INice to see you here rac :) and you came at a great time. Claim city.

Thoughts on everything so far if you've been keeping up, if not, thoughts on today at least
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
I think Include is lying of the two. That claim sounds like I'd set up a fake claim. Easy explanation for why you're not scum (the switch) and as Joat still leaving some room for other abilities for later, in case she gets caught doing something else by a town role or needs to claim fake additional abilities for some reason.

Gonna need to hear @Natiko and his reaction to this claim, but if we lynch the two, I'd go for Include first probably.
 

rac

whatever
ezekel lets do this

[highligh]Vote: melonrabbit[/highlight]

couldn't reveal that you were behind the td?
nah i dont buy it
 

rac

whatever
wait theres been claims since last night?
fuck, one sec

also do the reactions to apollo not getting the antidote feel genuine to everyone?

geno was it to risky for you to give the antidote to apollo, surely you've got town credit since you bussed everyone else eh?
did terra die for throwing shade at you before the event?

brazil are you coasting off of your zack performance?
or are you lulling scum asleep to attack once i make my arrival?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
@Natiko apart from your crumb, what do you think of melon as of now?
I still firmly believe she's town. I don't think scum roll the dice on a scum v scum TD D1 and use as good a role as Splinter had for such a gambit. If Melon's role is that then scum would just bus her for super cred early on since she would be vanilla going forward.

I switched with Natiko. Thank you for killing my super announcement though, but I don't have time to play now and I know scums will use this as an excuse to shoot me for "stalling". Whatever.

Anyhow, I hope we have enough since this morning.
Yeah, this is bullshit. Took you a really long time to spit out a name and then you come out with someone that (please correct me if I'm wrong someone - at work and can't really do a deep dive) you have basically not mentioned at ALL previously. Then your JOAT is unverified previously, you don't go into any info on D1, and if you're town thinking that you've caught scum why be cagey? You should be gleeful to go 1:1 if you're telling the truth.

Appears it's time for my claim - it can be partially verified today, not tomorrow (how convenient) as well. I am an Event Gambler. At night I submit three names and if one of them wins an item then I get a copy of it and become vanilla - I don't get to submit names anymore and have no chances at winning a second item. I put in Splinter, Melon, and Geno N1. I went with my top two town reads and Geno just seemed the type to try hard to get an item based on HVV lol

Melon won a 1-shot track, which means I got my copy. Hence why I could confirm that was the item. I tracked @BladeSymphony to @Stuart444 last night. I was going to leave it alone since nothing bad has happened to Stu and drop my scumread on Blade so as to not draw attention to him. That being said, since scum is now trying to throw a hail mary I figured it was pertinent to just come out with it all.

Anyways, suffice it to say I'm vanilla now so if I need to die to string up Include so be it. We're miles ahead right now.

I might be way off base, but I think in this case I fall on the side of believe Include in this switch. I haven't been able to get a good fix on Natiko and earlier his talking about when he was here (and not) put me in mind of his evasiveness during HvV. I haven't slept (still finishing my now overdue second chapter) so I dunno, maybe I'm insane. But I've been trying to get a good read on Natiko specifically and I just couldn't.

I will hold off any voting until we get more details from Include, though.
How in the world was I evasive in HVV? I got checked and owned up to it. I got to play for like a singular phase after subbing in for Lifeline.

I switched myself with someone! It was with eram






... It’s Natiko!

This is a lie. The way she withheld information throughout multiple posts for no reason, too, is a clear sign of someone who hadn’t prepared all of her material and needed some time.

Include would’ve used a power like that either against Geno or Saw, the two players she was fixated on yesterday. Natiko as a target came from absolutely nowhere. I’d be flabbergasted if it was true.
Yeah, honestly surprised this was the best they could come up with after this long. She would've been better off to just name a name and then afk until she had time to craft the details. It was a valiant effort though.
 
ezekel lets do this

[highligh]Vote: melonrabbit[/highlight]

couldn't reveal that you were behind the td?
nah i dont buy it
You forgot the t dude.
Anyway, right now we should focus on one discussion. Having seperate discussions will just lead to frustration. I'm willing to be thrown questions.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
was looking over teh ace game. i mistakingly joked that I was missing some words from the Ascetic cop name. Turns out I was lol

Xam was Neutral Ascetic One-Shot Bulletproof Serial Killer and Alignment Cop

LOOL
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
was looking over teh ace game. i mistakingly joked that I was missing some words from the Ascetic cop name. Turns out I was lol

Xam was Neutral Ascetic One-Shot Bulletproof Serial Killer and Alignment Cop

LOOL

So many words Retro couldn’t fit them all on my custom tag for this site
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I did for one. As I said in my theory Lux can still be scum.
I feel like this theory doesn't make a ton of sense. It's just going to draw heat that could have gotten Lux lynched. I doubt the scum team is looking to take a lot of unnecessary gambles given how many of them have already been axed.
 
Honestly I remember Include doing the 'I'm the most important role you'll regret this' thing in hvv and she was town and not a very high utility role. So I'd like to hear a full claim from her but don't look too much into that bit.

And I'm still preferring to see her flip before Natiko. I don't get why she switched herself (she was an unlikely target for nk or other bad stuff too imo) with someone who wasn't in her top scumreads.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I'm more willing to believe Nat over Include at the moment. While I know she has said she is short on time, in general she has been fairly passive. I remember her much more fiery and a willingness to jump in.
 
I feel like this theory doesn't make a ton of sense. It's just going to draw heat that could have gotten Lux lynched. I doubt the scum team is looking to take a lot of unnecessary gambles given how many of them have already been axed.
By day 2 they were doing well all things considered. This action would've happened N1.
 
All I'm saying is that it makes way more sense to nerf rather than to buff someone. Buffing someone is risky because people can go back and analyze the ITA's. It happened with Mazre.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
By day 2 they were doing well all things considered. This action would've happened N1.
During what phase did Lux shoot? I thought it was ITA 3, but if it was earlier then I guess you're right that things had not taken a horrible turn for scum yet lol
 
And I'm still preferring to see her flip before Natiko. I don't get why she switched herself (she was an unlikely target for nk or other bad stuff too imo) with someone who wasn't in her top scumreads.

Don't get why she switched herself since no one really was suspicious about her (outside of Geno before Geno says something :P ) and no one really voiced it as much. I mean I know I didn't just because I had already decided on checking her before the days end. Also Nat seems like a random choice from her for her switch with.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Don't get why she switched herself since no one really was suspicious about her (outside of Geno before Geno says something :P ) and no one really voiced it as much. I mean I know I didn't just because I had already decided on checking her before the days end. Also Nat seems like a random choice from her for her switch with.
Maybe she did it for the lawlz?
 

Swamped

Dazzling Mafia Queen
I was thinking. If Include is scum. And considering the ITA nerf or boost role, what are the chances they nerfed Lux's ITA so he can fire on Include and fail for town cred?

I don't think so. Include wasn't overly scumread on D2. You mention that Lux might have wanted to get cred for assassinating a scum partner whom nobody was suspecting. First, can scum really afford to kill their own? They are many players down. Second, if he had his ITA nerfed then there's no way he could kill her and get that cred.

Btw, I voted Lux because I saw Faircure's vote and I agreed with her reasoning. I town read her. And I was still catching up with posts then, so I went with that.

I shot Alexem because I didn't have any feelings about him so I thought he might be lurking scum which was the perfect target for an ITA. But since then I've actually liked his posts and I'm leaning town on him.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Wait what is Geno claiming now?

There are too many claims. I can only keep up with Zeke because it's the same thing every day.
 
isoed Natiko after I saw Hecht's message on Natiko behavior being like Grizzly, and I just can see it too after that. So I took a chance and did it.
Erh, what exactly was the chance you took? How does switching you two give you anything? o.O
 
Don't get why she switched herself since no one really was suspicious about her (outside of Geno before Geno says something :P ) and no one really voiced it as much. I mean I know I didn't just because I had already decided on checking her before the days end. Also Nat seems like a random choice from her for her switch with.
Yep. Usually a town switcher is trying to redirect kills to hit a mafia member, at least that's how I play. There are plenty of way better targets to have switched with Natiko if she was scumreading him, Zipped for one.
 
Blarg’s headless chicken act, everyone
I'm getting scum vibes from Blarg. He's spamming and making people repeat obvious stuff from a few hours ago. Nothing new. But he's also poking at claims and wants all the info. Something he's always doing as scum. I don't see any move forward from him, he's not contributing, so he's scum - q.e.d. (sorian would agree)
 

Swamped

Dazzling Mafia Queen
If you're a town switcher, you always switch with your biggest scum read. Because if Scum kill you, they'll actually kill their own. I don't remember Include particularly scum reading Nat.

Also not sure if I trust her claim that she has a power than can 'confirm' her next day phase or whatever.

VOTE: Include

I think she'll get hit during ITA. If so, I'll change my vote, probably to Extreme Tactician given the 100% ITA argument.

Also not trusting Gorlak so far. His arguments about Melon feel like he might be trying to egg Zeke on. And I townread Zeke.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
@Lone Stranger has joined the game

This account DOES effect majority and will be added to the player list. You may interact with it in any way that you would a normal player including votes, ITAs, and PR usage.
 
Everyone should be aware that Include may not have been @Stuart444 's target. Blade could've influenced that. We don't know for sure though.

Her claim is odd regardless. She has to answer questions above.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I thought every player involved would be notified.

Are there any specifications how people win your item @Natiko?
Not sure if I explained poorly or what - I gamble on OTHERS winning an item. I can win one copy of an item if someone I gambled on won an event. Melon won the third event I believe it was and I received a copy of her item and used it on Blade last night. I am now vanilla.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Everyone should be aware that Include may not have been @Stuart444 's target. Blade could've influenced that. We don't know for sure though.

Her claim is odd regardless. She has to answer questions above.
Oh, I didnt think of that.

Stuart looks in on Include > Ynnek receives letter that stu's target not town > Include says they switched with Nat.

Question could blade have messed up stu's read.
 
Everyone should be aware that Include may not have been @Stuart444 's target. Blade could've influenced that. We don't know for sure though.

Her claim is odd regardless. She has to answer questions above.

Without Blade answering at all, this seems very odd to bring up from my point of view. You said we don't know for sure so it's weird to preemptively say this before Blade can answer anything.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
no, I'm confused over who is actually redchecked and who is just running up red flags.

Was Include redchecked? Who was redchecked?
Include redchecked yes. But says she switched.


Stu can "look" at someone each night.
Ynnek gets the results on if they are town or not

Lover/Admirer power or something.
===
N1 - Stu looked at Kawl, Ynned got a msg saying they are town
N2 - Stu looked at Include, Ynnek got msg they are not town.
====
Include says they switched with Nat. N2.
 
no, I'm confused over who is actually redchecked and who is just running up red flags.

Was Include redchecked? Who was redchecked?

Include was yes. With their claim, who they claim they switched with and the fact that they coincidentally used to their power last night.

It's all rather weird to me and I just don't buy it.
 

Kawl

Owner of the Gun Show
Team include gets got by the way. Not voting since don’t know how’s many we have vs hammer. Although I do so love using ITAs to close some loops and force people off easy lunches
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Just a game note since I keep seeing it get mentioned. This game can not hit majority until all ITA phases for a day are completed. Please see post three for full breakdown of that rule.
 
Without Blade answering at all, this seems very odd to bring up from my point of view. You said we don't know for sure so it's weird to preemptively say this before Blade can answer anything.
Why odd? I can't think of a townie reason to visit you last night
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
==== DAY 3 VOTES ====
Day Start

include (8 votes)
brazil - #4018
sawneeks - #4059
luxcommander - #4070
melonrabbit - #4072
natiko - #4116
nomad sparkster - #4273
swamped - #4347
lone stranger - #4368

natiko (1 votes)
blargonaut - #4200

Post Counts:
ezekelrage: 73 gorlak: 71 stuart444: 64 blargonaut: 41 melonrabbit: 33 heymonkey: 25 brazil: 21 extreme tactician: 18 stanleypalmtree: 17 geno: 15 luxcommander: 13 muffin: 12 sawneeks: 12 natiko: 11 poltergust: 10 dcpat: 10 include: 8 alexem: 8 kawl: 8 sorian: 7 ynnek7: 6 rac: 6 zippedpinhead: 5 faircure: 4 swamped: 2 zubz: 2 lone stranger: 1 nomad sparkster: 1 xbro: 1

Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
 
Hey y'all what's up, had real life struggles and am glad for a chill experience and...
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Well time to catch...up...and uh...help out and...

Oh god. Oh God.
 
Man I should've known how much I'd struggle to handle a 50 player game. Also early hammers aren't going to be thing in this game (barring manipulation of how many ITA times there are or when they'll pop):
Rule 23 has been changed. As noted below, the times for ITAs will be announced at day start. The vote cannot end via majority until all scheduled ITA phases have completed for the day. After the final ITA phase ends, if majority is currently hit, the thread will have a one hour grace period. If the majority is reversed during the hour then the day continues, if the majority remains then the day will end.
Be back in a sec, collecting my thoughts.
 
Well that's interesting.

What do you guys think, another similar scum role to Rynam that created this, or is it a town or neutral power?

The first seems unlikely to me.

I don't know if it's to throw us off or something but my instinct says town or neutral due to that vote.

Why odd? I can't think of a townie reason to visit you last night

This is also odd, you've thrown out the assumption here that Blade is a townie visiting me.

It feels very preemptive and gives Blade something to work with instead of letting him answer it himself.
 
Literally haven't been keeping up so just posting to say I'm around and will be trying to be active today. (I could of been killed and if so will edit my posts)

I'mma help us win this guyz
 
Literally haven't been keeping up so just posting to say I'm around and will be trying to be active today. (I could of been killed and if so will edit my posts)

I'mma help us win this guyz

At least go back to the start of today or at least to Ynnek's first post and give us your thoughts with all the claims going on.
 
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