Game Thread Marvel Heroes Mafia - Half of You Will Enjoy This

So, now that Natiko is confirmed scum, I want to look deeply into his post history. I found this gem here:

Appears it's time for my claim - it can be partially verified today, not tomorrow (how convenient) as well. I am an Event Gambler. At night I submit three names and if one of them wins an item then I get a copy of it and become vanilla - I don't get to submit names anymore and have no chances at winning a second item. I put in Splinter, Melon, and Geno N1. I went with my top two town reads and Geno just seemed the type to try hard to get an item based on HVV lol

We all know how Splinter turned out. I think I'm gonna shift my vote over now. Might even go in for the kill during the next round of ITAs.

VOTE: melonrabbit
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Yes, LP saying hi after days of nothing is certainly putting in more effort than same.

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Shameful.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
So, now that Natiko is confirmed scum, I want to look deeply into his post history. I found this gem here:



We all know how Splinter turned out. I think I'm gonna shift my vote over now. Might even go in for the kill during the next round of ITAs.

VOTE: melonrabbit

I'm not sure how that's a gem.

Given we don't know the amount of scum left it is in our best interest to deal with these inactives.

Lylo is coming.
 
I'm not sure how that's a gem.

Given we don't know the amount of scum left it is in our best interest to deal with these inactives.

Lylo is coming.

I don't have a problem chewing through inactives, but what difference does the order actually make? If those inactives are town, then we get closer to LYLO anyways.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I don't have a problem chewing through inactives, but what difference does the order actually make? If those inactives are town, then we get closer to LYLO anyways.

Okay. If you think it is cool that they are essentially holding a spot in a game they don't feel like playing ever.

My mislynch is far more interesting anyway.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Also, in general your turnover from briefs to me is a little abrupt. @LuxCommander
You were on board with Kalor for minutes before getting bored.

Who are you supposed to be again, Red?

@Kawl how dare you not remember me.
 
I just felt it was necessary to go back and check the records. Your post count has increased. Almost as if your heart started beating faster.
 
@BladeSymphony can you please answer what Monkey asked earlier about what made you switch on your Natiko read? it's especially relevant now that Natiko has flipped and it's kinda weird that you just ignored that post.

He knew I went to Stuart. It made me think he may have been the town tracker, even with my already mafia suspicions. His votes yesterday just confirmed I was wrong.
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
Given that I've read a fraction of this thread, this is your chance to sway me towards your biggest scum read with selective quoting and eloquent analysis.

I do however disagree with that Natiko quote. He wouldn't put two scum buddies in a list of three.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog

Sawneeks

little green dog
Gonna try and also take the chance this phase to go over the remaining living Players. We likely still have a sizeable Scum Team left outside of potential Neutral(s) and with confirmation that we have nearly 4 kills per Night Phase + some mystery in-thread kill this game is going to become very small, very fast.
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
Gonna try and also take the chance this phase to go over the remaining living Players. We likely still have a sizeable Scum Team left outside of potential Neutral(s) and with confirmation that we have nearly 4 kills per Night Phase + some mystery in-thread kill this game is going to become very small, very fast.
Two ITA phases left too today
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
also muffin you gotta help me out here. gimme them scum reads
It's hard, ET is still a possible person who could have got boosted on D2 by scum, but I'm more and more not feeling it. Not acting scummy.

And monkey and Natiko flipped before I could shoot or vote them today, so I'm kinda out of options I set up at day start. Kalor is left in that pile of early Alexem vote. I'll go through his posts.

Besides that, at this point I just want to get LP out. The showing up and asking others to do the work for him is getting old.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
It's hard, ET is still a possible person who could have got boosted on D2 by scum, but I'm more and more not feeling it. Not acting scummy.

And monkey and Natiko flipped before I could shoot or vote them today, so I'm kinda out of options I set up at day start. Kalor is left in that pile of early Alexem vote. I'll go through his posts.

Besides that, at this point I just want to get LP out. The showing up and asking others to do the work for him is getting old.
Need more than this. We've got around...24 Players left? And likely 5 or so Scum so this isn't covering it. Give me gut reads, slight feelings, etc.

Also what do you think of rac calling out ET for that early celebration? how does this effect your read?
 

Kalor

Kay-lor? Kah-lor?
Need more than this. We've got around...24 Players left? And likely 5 or so Scum so this isn't covering it. Give me gut reads, slight feelings, etc.

Also what do you think of rac calling out ET for that early celebration? how does this effect your read?

I assume you meant me and not rac? I don't think rac mentioned the early celebration, Fandorin did though
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
Jubjub was probably killed by a town or neutral role. Scum probably wouldn't kill someone with suspicion against them, unless they thought they had an important role.
This is curious. Scum would know that they didn't try to kill JubJub, and Kalor seems very sure of it here. Two or three posts later Lux admits to the kill. Luck, or something else?
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
I'm looking at the post and it could be a slip. Then again I found Natiko to be scummy also and can see myself reacting similar if I'm rather sure of it.

Rather NAI to me, maybe a slight direction into scummy territory.
 

rac

whatever
I'm looking at the post and it could be a slip. Then again I found Natiko to be scummy also and can see myself reacting similar if I'm rather sure of it.

Rather NAI to me, maybe a slight direction into scummy territory.

if extreme was so sure natiko was scum why would he post about wanting to ita briefs cat right before and then never even submitting one but be active enough to react to the hit before the flip even happens
 
I know I've been playing badly but I'd hardly say I've contributed nothing. :x

Also recommend you don't waste your shot on me and try to it actual scummy players.
I mean if not nothing then very little. I think it's worth it so we can eliminate veteran scum players like you and leave only the top town alive for the late game.
 
Like with Natiko, it made way too much sense for him to be scum so shooting him first leaves us more room to work with as town. Shooting Briefs cat gives us nothing even if he flips scum.
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
if extreme was so sure natiko was scum why would he post about wanting to ita briefs cat right before and then never even submitting one but be active enough to react to the hit before the flip even happens
The former is a fair point. I don't see the problem with the latter. If he's indecisive about his shot, he can still take part in the thread. Nothing weird about that.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
I didn't ignore it, you gave me the wrong person to go through lol

I meant my other ques-

actually, it was more of a statement. my bad. but I meant this:
Need more than this. We've got around...24 Players left? And likely 5 or so Scum so this isn't covering it. Give me gut reads, slight feelings, etc.

I mean if not nothing then very little. I think it's worth it so we can eliminate veteran scum players like you and leave only the top town alive for the late game.

Meh. Explain to me the logic of killing of someone who has contributed 'little' to someone who has contributed less? i.e. me over, say, LP or briefs?

Also ask why you would even want that? Natiko was highly Town Read by people before he died, as was Include. If anything purposefully keeping the Top Town alive for late game only for that reason opens you up to being deceived like that again.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Like with Natiko, it made way too much sense for him to be scum so shooting him first leaves us more room to work with as town. Shooting Briefs cat gives us nothing even if he flips scum.
If you are so dead-set on this I'd recommend not shooting me then, you'd have better luck on a lynch.
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
I agree with Geno that we should rather take care of possible competent scum players instead of inactives that won't give us much info.

Even though I really wanna shoot LP.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Like with Natiko, it made way too much sense for him to be scum so shooting him first leaves us more room to work with as town. Shooting Briefs cat gives us nothing even if he flips scum.
Please show me where you've gone back and looked over Natiko's and other scum flips posts to find more info. Because if you're arguing info kills you have to still do the work instead of just the talk.
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
Pretty sure I named most of my reads. I might wanna add that I feel good about Brazil so far. Was sceptical when he joined, but he picked up till now.
That should say "newer reads". My opinion on people like Melon, Geno, Blarg, kawl etc. hasn't changed.
 

Muffin

is being held hostage by Sammi
@Sorian

Would it be possible to give us a list of players who still need to shoot?

If I missed it in the thread, if anybody else can quote it, that'd be nice.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
@Sorian

Would it be possible to give us a list of players who still need to shoot?

If I missed it in the thread, if anybody else can quote it, that'd be nice.

Blade, Blarg, briefs, Coolest, Fandorin, Kawl, L_P, Lux, Muffin, Oreo, rac, Sawneeks, Stanley, Ynnek, Zubz

I believe that’s right, playing with my spreadsheet on mobile can be hard.
 
I'll be traveling for work tomorrow and I'll be back fairly late so I apologize if I am late with any messages during that time. I'll try to be around for today's ITAs phase but I can't promise more than that. Will catch up when I return.
 
You serious? I can't see any reason to shoot Geno and I don't know why you wanna shoot me, but that's at least a bit more understandable.
I have to agree with Muffin here. Why shoot Geno who just killed scum in the last ITA phase? I wouldn't exactly consider someone like that a high-priority target.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I meant my other ques-

actually, it was more of a statement. my bad. but I meant this:




Meh. Explain to me the logic of killing of someone who has contributed 'little' to someone who has contributed less? i.e. me over, say, LP or briefs?

Also ask why you would even want that? Natiko was highly Town Read by people before he died, as was Include. If anything purposefully keeping the Top Town alive for late game only for that reason opens you up to being deceived like that again.

Explain to me the logic of wanting to want a much more powerful vote on me over someone that has contributed very "little' like a briefs or LP.

I see when it is your ass on the line suddenly you care about this game. Honestly I hope you aren't scum because this is one of the poorest game I've seen you play.

Your reads are just piggybacked half the time and you constantly forgot there is a thread. Are you not remotely curious why suddedly briefs and LP picked now to hop back into the thread and participate. No? Still worried about yourself.
 
Explain to me the logic of wanting to want a much more powerful vote on me over someone that has contributed very "little' like a briefs or LP.

I see when it is your ass on the line suddenly you care about this game. Honestly I hope you aren't scum because this is one of the poorest game I've seen you play.

Your reads are just piggybacked half the time and you constantly forgot there is a thread. Are you not remotely curious why suddedly briefs and LP picked now to hop back into the thread and participate. No? Still worried about yourself.
Wait, briefs actually turned up?!
 
At work and will be during the ITA, so I skimmed hardcore.

Anyways, I will shoot the hell out of Extreme.
Extreme has been bugging me, too. He's the last one alive who got a hit during Day 2 ITAs, so if Apollo used his 100% hitrate ITA ability then Extreme is the only candidate left for that. Him jumping the gun on reacting to Natiko's death also strikes me as odd, like he knew Natiko was scum before the role PM was posted.

And then there's this post:
So me, fellow Mafia is happy a mafia member died?

Dude what. Why would I be happy? I mean the Mafia is so outnumbered right now.
That last sentence bothers me, because he sounds so sure about how much scum is left. There could be as little as 2 left, or as many as 6. If scum are at 5 or 6 then town is in a lot of trouble. But, we have no way to know for sure, so making a claim like that with such certainty doesn't sit well with me.

Not to mention that he has basically been coasting along, not making any significant contributions. The biggest thing he's done was killing Verelios, but a whole lot of people wanted to do that Day 2 as well.

If Extreme is indeed town then I think he's not doing a good job at it.
 
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