Pair Thread Boat 5 - Sorian & Dr Monkey

Sorian

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On the other hand, why claim doctor than if he knew he was getting counter claimed.

On the other other hand, if they’ve fucked up two kills already, what better way to find the doctor than to force them to counter claim and let the mafia bomb go off in the process.
 

heymonkey

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On the other hand, why claim doctor than if he knew he was getting counter claimed.

On the other other hand, if they’ve fucked up two kills already, what better way to find the doctor than to force them to counter claim and let the mafia bomb go off in the process.
No kidding.

If Ket can self protect, though, it looks like she hadn't yet, so she should be able to tonight at least.
 

Sorian

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I’m getting off work now so I’ll post more later once I’ve had a chance to relax a bit but usually doctors can’t self protect so I figure that’s a lost cause at this point.

This flip doesn’t really change much on Fandorin for me obviously. Now knowing for sure that Faddy was scum, I do want to look more into the people that voted for malus around when Fandorin and Faddy both become the clear lynched.

Also, through sheer bullheaded-ness, I feel like Flux comes out of that day be looking even more amazing that yesterday. He was giving Faddy no slack at all and after the whole turmoil situation, Flux would have to be the most stone cold mafia player I’ve ever seen to be scum with either of them. I do wonder on people like Natiko and Brazil giving him shit for taking that hardline stance but honestly, their reaction natural aside from Flux kind of being confirmed after yesterday anyway so the arguing was unneeded even if you disagreed.
 

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I'm going to drink an overly large whiskey tonight and reread this madness.

How did Flux know is what I want to know. I agree with you that he's not mafia but damn, he was so certain. I want that level of certainty. I agree on Fandorin. But there's bound to be several more mafia. If Fandorin is scum, I think I look at Febe next; if he's actually town and this was just a series of unfortunate events, I think next is Sawneeks.
 

Sorian

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I'm going to drink an overly large whiskey tonight and reread this madness.

How did Flux know is what I want to know. I agree with you that he's not mafia but damn, he was so certain. I want that level of certainty. I agree on Fandorin. But there's bound to be several more mafia. If Fandorin is scum, I think I look at Febe next; if he's actually town and this was just a series of unfortunate events, I think next is Sawneeks.

To be completely honest, I don’t think Flux knows anything, he got set on his read and didn’t want anything diverting from it. He’s like a Zeke but less hammer heavy.

I haven’t actually reread anything yet but if I don’t tonight, I have time before work tomorrow/right when I get to work.
 

heymonkey

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I have reread the end of day. Also looking at votes and Faddy initially voted Natiko (maybe double check him?) for leader, then Fandorin, then finally Stan at the end. The leader stuff may not matter, but turmoil also voted Fandorin.
 

heymonkey

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Faddy said he thought it was obvious Brazil is scum, and he did vote him for a while, but then he switched to Fandorin while calling all Fandorin votes trash. I feel like this has to link to the way folks were separating Brazil and Fandorin. He calls LP lock scum and I wonder about that one because it's an easy bus, too. His other scum reads were Sneeks, Zeke, Kyan, rac. Damn, he was just flinging shade everywhere.
 

Sorian

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So reading back on this, yeah, Faddy was just shade heavy everywhere. I’m not sure there can be much to be gained with who he was scum reading except for maybe Fandorin himself who Faddy was fine calling scum but not actually voting for when he would have been a perfectly acceptable candidate over malus.

If Fandorin is scum as well then that opens up a few new lines, malus clearly is not scum in that case (unless they really shit the bed on this game) which makes his first few votes suspect, that’s Brazil, Natiko, and Fireblend.

I was looking at that rac vote and kind of scratching my head. It’s only one post under Fandorin’s so it felt like a cross post but it was 8 minutes later so rac has plenty of time to see Fandorin’s vote. I don’t think they’d be that blatant right there in the day phase and at that point, bussing should have been happening so I don’t think rac and Fandorin are scum together.

Going back to the three from above. Fireblend obviously sticks out a lot since he voted for no real reason. It was fine at the time but he ghosted from the thread after that so it’s just a hanging thread. Brazil’s malus vote was fine at the time (and he was the first on it) and he wore his Fandorin defense on his sleeve and that’s a hard pill to swallow imagining them both as scum in light of Faddy flipping too. That’s pretty much Brazil 100% refusing to bus in anyway possible.

Natiko is probably the most glaring vote in there. Where as Fireblend seems to have RL issues, Natiko got his vote on at the most opportune time to switch suspicion away. For how much time he spent scum hunting/reading elsewhere, that malus vote was sticky for a long time.

Other notables you mentioned were Sawneeks and L_P, I still don’t know what to make of LP, Faddy calling him out reads more like Faddy looking for an angle than bussing a scummate to me but it’s so hard to tell with LP not playing. Sawneeks is kind of dependent, she stuck hard to that Fandorin vote so I’d be curious to see how he goes first.

If Fandorin is town then I feel like a lot of this is lol because then Fandorin’s vote would also be a haven to save Faddy but then, I don’t see why the vote would have been split the way it was.
 

heymonkey

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Agreed if Fandorin is town. I think if he is, I definitely look at Sneeks. She's been insistent but a little avoidy, and Fireblend and Natiko are gonna get some looks regardless, but I'm about to tunnel Fando in a way that would make my namesake proud.
 

Sorian

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Anyone else mixed in this that I’m not seeing? AB, Kyan, and Blarg all seemed off track but none of them read like purposely avoiding the situation. Zeke is still whatever, I was waffling on whatever Zubz was scum or not but Zeke is pushing his own agenda so hard that I can’t see how he would have been on a scum team with Faddy unless he straight did not care about helping. And to re-litigate a bit, CeeCee didn’t really come out of this dirty either so my assumption that he’s at least not scum still hold to me.

I am curious if we will get two kills tonight now, I’d be shocked if there’s no neutral in the game and I’m surprised we’ve seen no indicator yet.
 

heymonkey

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It does seem like it's going to be a long slow game if there's no extra kill. I wonder what the other modifiers have.

I think AB could be a contender, but I felt a little better about him yesterday. I need to try to reread him more closely today if I can. I do think we'll see scum start to move more. Faddy's death was orchestrated, but being down two now, they'll have to be more careful. Wonder if Bae will get roleblocked again. Kyan I was feeling good about but I'm gonna have to go check again now that Faddy flipped. Zeke is Zeke. I don't see scum there. CeeCee has been lying low. I agree scum is unlikely but also at this point I wonder at him not really engaging. I know that can just be CeeCee but it concerns me regardless.

You're not seeing any signs of the neutral because it's you. :P

All memes aside, this has been nice. You're okay, I guess.
 

Sorian

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I imagine the only move is to roleblock Bae again (if they’re allowed to roleblock the same person twice in a row) and kill Ket and hope she can’t self-protect. If they do anything else, they risk fumbling completely, either on Ket stopping a kill (again?) or Bae getting another check out because at this stage, a green check might be just as damning.

She might try to check me again though, I hope I come up town!
 

Sorian

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what do you mean you hope

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If you’re going to keep joking that I’m not town because you have that niggle bothering you in that back of your mind, I’m going to keep picking at it because I find it funny. Also have to do this OM title justice :P
 

Sorian

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At this point, I’m thinking no one actually cares about these modifiers. There was that side chatter earlier this day phase that maybe scum knew what the modifiers did or something but none of these seem to have much resistance, whatever got voted first seems to have just won pretty handily each day
 

heymonkey

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I just don’t want HvV or Dark Souls because they were my worst games. And I dunno what the modifiers would be but seems better not to risk it.

I do wonder if one modifier will cause kills. I also wonder what would happen if you and I switched as a voting block. I’m fine with TPIR but also curious.
 

Sorian

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Best of both worlds, let’s switch to HvV, maybe I’ll get some bullshit and you get to see if people scramble :P

At this stage, I feel like people have checked out once their vote is down, Blarg keeps changing his vote on the days he’s allowed to and it could just be that it’s Blarg, but no one has really cared.
 

Sorian

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This is a face you can trust, just let me hold that digivice for a night or two, I’ll give it back, I promise.
 

Sorian

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Fair play.

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Hey @Grizzly are these threads just going to be locked or are you going to pull access too? Just realized I should make sure I don’t have to write anything down.
 

Sorian

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Any final thoughts, beanie?

Not really, I haven’t reread anything after my big post this morning and I’m just more curious what day start looks like now. I’d question what’s going on at scum HQ if either of us are dead so it’s kind of whatever to get anything more extensive out when a lot of my reads are contingent on one person now anyway.

You?
 

Sorian

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Maybe if we're both still alive, tomorrow night we can vote for the same modifier?

I’m fine with any modifier at this point, even the fake game ones, I don’t think any of them are going to be particularly dangerous, maybe more annoying if anything so that’s fine
 

heymonkey

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Not really, I haven’t reread anything after my big post this morning and I’m just more curious what day start looks like now. I’d question what’s going on at scum HQ if either of us are dead so it’s kind of whatever to get anything more extensive out when a lot of my reads are contingent on one person now anyway.

You?
Nah, kinda same. I want to see if we get what we expect - maybe a dead Ketkat, and a report, or not, from Bae, and reactions to day end. I think that might be fruitful ground there. I'm curious to hear from Febe in particular.
 

Sorian

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I can’t wait to see how long it takes for someone to point at me for being the only vote left on Fandorin/not being here when everything went down. Im betting on Fran to do it.
 
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