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Yeah, I think both Hecht and I had it figured out at about the same time. God, I shoulda put a reads list down.
I'm worried Bronson won't look back and will stick with his current reads.
I'll go ahead and try.
Right now I'd agree with turmoil. He's pretty great out there, moving everything along. I'd only reconsider in lylo because he looks townie af (still the claim leaves uneasiness)
Kalor is telling the truth, but is the bp part a lie? If yes - okay, if not - why mention it? I think he's bluffing.
I feel bad about stu. He's very muted, think he's scum.
I giggled at Kitsu's headbutt post XD
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I'm guessing they think that Splinter is still able to check people?
Not even that. Kalor’s “BP”.
Sure, but on top of that they’re adding up Hecht’s BP (which is pro-scum; Hecht would almost always target townies and exit the game before they ran out of strong shots) and the Teal Room’s vests (that could’ve been theirs) to argue that all of that is unbalanced against scum... in a game in which they wasted a strong shot :P
Edit: Not to mention that they actually shot over a BP and the doc’s protection simultaneously when they killed Palmer.
The teal room is RNG though to be fair to them.
Yeah. And they got dealt a bad hand with said RNG. I understand their frustration.
The idea behind that Teal Room was for scum to look at its description and push for it in exchange for some town cred early on while they still had a strong killer, just like the Dark Room was there for them to use alongside the silencer role. Their roles gave them more information about the rooms than town had, but most players ended up just treating that mechanic passively anyway - including them.
They had the necessary tools to counter every type of town protection.
That ended up backfiring considering how people thought it was scumish to push for teal early on XD.
Kalor gets away with it because no one has counter claimed his Vig shots :P so it's like whatever to most players I think.
Yeah, well, I concede that one :lol
Fanto
Confirmed Town
True, I think most Town players figure he's bullshitting about it since they believe the Vig claim, and Scum probably doesn't want to rock the boat too much.
Speaking of rooms, I still can't believe the luck (good for scum, bad for town) of the Must Vote room + silence + the mason/lovers pair.
That was a one in a million shot XD
That was a one in a million shot XD
The Random Number Gods giveth and taketh.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
D2 in the Mansion was probably one of the most amazing days in any Mafia game that I've seen so far lol. 5 deaths: 2 Scum, 3 Town. Along with, what was it, 6 role claims? Holy shit, how can that ever be topped lol.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
I told em splinter may be out of shots.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Believing kalor has a natural bulletproof is a bit silly. The problem is the random vests.
Welp, I tried.
I did, though not direct quotes.
Pedro
The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
a Mafia Vengeful, who if lynched will kill the last player that voted for them
a Neutral Lyncher, whose objective is to lynch a certain Vanilla Townie to win
This Lyncher is the one I was referring to when I said
a Neutral Lyncher, whose objective is to lynch a certain Vanilla Townie to win
This Lyncher is the one I was referring to when I said
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Also, welcome @FluxWaveZ o/
Verelios
Were-elios
Oh. Oh no.
I warned you guys.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
XD
Hecht
Like dubstep for my bootyhole
btw i would have killed 3 town, so thanks for murdering me
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Yes, hindsight suggests leaving you alone.
Sorry.
Although I’ve been screwed over as scum by an arsonist who took out 2 team members.
Seeing people try to read my dead mind is odd. I can’t manage to read my own mind half the time.
Well there goes my scum read on Muffin, really should stop scum reading people for coasting.
Given I'm absolutely wrong about everything could I be spoiled? I think I've given up trying to solve it hahaha
Hecht
Like dubstep for my bootyhole
just don't trust my reads list and you'll be able to find scum
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Look at Gorlak's posts about his reads in here on the last page. Think about what would change for him now with the info we have been given today. There is one Scum player in particular who was catching some early heat, but not so much anymore.
Hecht
Like dubstep for my bootyhole
The other scum I handed to town on a silver platter in the moments before I died, but nooooooooo of course no one wants to look at that
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
Man this was a bleh game for me, i couldnt dfind the slightest bit of footing and most hald hearted attempts to engage myself went kaput immediately
Yeah, it's dumb. Just look at the weird votes D1 and 2 and game is done. This player in particular has been screaming scum since D1 as well.
Hecht
Like dubstep for my bootyhole
I know Palmer hates me but I at least expected he knew what I was doing in the game lol
Yeah no I'm too lazy. Gut feel with the votes and behaviour still is Stuart and votes alone... kits! (Kits fits the recent comments as well, so that's probably safe). Though three scum saving Lux there would be incredible. Also kits plays pretty scummy when town, so getting away with it here isn't really that surprising.
If not Stuart, mhm ... lynch Muffin, Zipped, Saenima, Bronson in that order, I've no clue.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Fanto
Confirmed Town
This is the second time Fran has said this, and it still makes no sense to me.Fran said:
Scum was afraid to lynch him because they have been pushing for it? Then why were they pushing for it?
Why would Fran flipping Town make Scum look worse than any other Town player they pushed or voted for flipping Town?
I just don't understand this logic.
I think the idea is that if scum pushes a mislynch too strongly, they'll look bad for it once it actually happens, and so they'll try to back down from it if possible.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, because random votes moving to collapse a train never looks suspicious either lol
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I guess I can see that angle, but it doesn't really line up with my experiences so far. I've seen plenty of Scum players make strong pushes for Town players at any stage of the game.
For example, what's going on in the Mansion right now? :P
Fireblend
ABLF
I would say none. Yellow, maybe. But it's a big maybe.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
I don’t remember us doing that.
Personally I was all for keeping you around since you believed I was town.
It’s weird that mansion thinks I only had one scumread. There’s a player I pretty consistently scumread that they’re all just ignoring even though I think I brought it up on that same day.
Yellow is unquestionably very pro-town. Grey could've been bad for town earlier in the game, but right now it'd only potentially hurt scum. Purple is neither here nor there, Orange is good for scum, and Green would be a disaster for town.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
What does purple do anyway?
We'll see :P
Barring the claim and counter claim, I would have struggled to lynch you for sure. And yeah, I feel like a lot of town is failing to go back and read everything from people after they flip. Town resting on their laurels after a decent start.
At least someone does.
I don't think they can do anything today considering how lethargic they are. They've got over half the scum team down, so this is the best point in a game to read back and find all the answers, but alas.
Just do it, it'll only raise people's spirits (I'm only semi-serious)
Fanto
Confirmed Town
It really is.
Please, god, someone question why Stuart only showed up to answer an easy question and is doing no scum hunting or giving any reads!!!
He couldn't be playing more differently from his usual townie self if he wanted to. I don't think he's made a single ISO so far in this game.
And it's paying off :lol
And it's paying off :lol
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I think he's doing great just staying in the shadows here. I don't know if he can keep it up forever though, people are going to expect more from him eventually. I would be expecting a lot more than 18 posts from him so far today for example, that's for sure...
This is why I don't lynch active players D1. Game stalls out, scum skates.
Stuart's wasted vote on Saucykaz should be under a lot of scrutiny a well. Scum could have known he wasn't making it back, and would be able to fish for that easy town cred. Any votes that aren't on vote leaders should be scrutinized.
I forgot to respond to this earlier - hey, man, at least you got to experience the thrill of being shot by a vig!
:P
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Just wait until you see scum chat where he's delighting in how little he's doing lol
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Good final pooooost /EZA tone
Hecht
Like dubstep for my bootyhole
Do it
Ok, I have something to reveal regarding the Teal Room's vests.
I was going to be away from the PC when D5 started, so I tentatively rolled everything before Night actions had been locked in so I could start the day easily from my phone when the time came.
(Spoilering from this point onwards)
I was going to be away from the PC when D5 started, so I tentatively rolled everything before Night actions had been locked in so I could start the day easily from my phone when the time came.
(Spoilering from this point onwards)
The two vests were originally going to be handed out to Bronson and Splinter.
At the very last moment, though, the vig shot Stan, and I ended up having to roll the vests again with one less player.
After I rerolled, the two vests went to Zipped...
At the very last moment, though, the vig shot Stan, and I ended up having to roll the vests again with one less player.
After I rerolled, the two vests went to Zipped...
and Splinter.
Hecht
Like dubstep for my bootyhole
Oh thank Christ lol
Muffin
is being held hostage by Sammi
This game destroyed my perfect 1:1 town-neutral ratio, in the wrong direction even! An outrage!
Was funny though how the old "no sir I'm just an innocent town BP, nothing neutral to see here" trick even worked well on me although I've done it myself a few times. Would have gotten away with it @Hecht if it werent for that scum gambit from wee.
Was funny though how the old "no sir I'm just an innocent town BP, nothing neutral to see here" trick even worked well on me although I've done it myself a few times. Would have gotten away with it @Hecht if it werent for that scum gambit from wee.
Hecht
Like dubstep for my bootyhole
if it ain’t broke
Muffin
is being held hostage by Sammi
Muffin
is being held hostage by Sammi
Shit, if I finally ended my bad streak there maybe I should just always play angry, it seems to work
I'll just hypnotize myself into thinking I'm always on the chopping block from now on