Spectator Thread House of Horrors Spec Thread

[Sorian]

I do want to say that I think the design for this game was great and, just like GoT, I love that there are some really unique aspects to it that I haven't seen elsewhere. Great job, Natiko! Definitely looking forward to another game from you in the future. <3

I think the best thing about this game is there is another timeline where you’re out there making that final kill to finally win the game

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and then you eat scum and realize you are stuck in the game for another few day phases

 

[Fanto]

I think the best thing about this game is there is another timeline where you’re out there making that final kill to finally win the game

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and then you eat scum and realize you are stuck in the game for another few day phases

This would only happen to me too lol.

 

[Natiko]

I do want to say that I think the design for this game was great and, just like GoT, I love that there are some really unique aspects to it that I haven't seen elsewhere. Great job, Natiko! Definitely looking forward to another game from you in the future. <3

Thanks! I'm glad there have been some positive takeaways, even if the game itself sorta fizzled out at times.

Lol

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Have they been discussing the day targets at all or does that member just fly solo on the choices?

I hope it’s the latter.

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All of their kills go something like this:

Scum 1: Well, Player A would be a good kill.
Scum 2: Yeah, they could be.
Scum 1: Oh, but also Player B.
Scum 2: True, even Player C.
Scum 1: And Players D, E, F, G, H..
Scum 2: Who should we go with?
Scum 1: ...
Scum 2: ...
*30 minutes until deadline*
Scum 1 or 2: Uhhhhhhhhhhhh guess we'll go with Player X

 

[Verelios]

Thanks! I'm glad there have been some positive takeaways, even if the game itself sorta fizzled out at times.

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All of their kills go something like this:

Scum 1: Well, Player A would be a good kill.
Scum 2: Yeah, they could be.
Scum 1: Oh, but also Player B.
Scum 2: True, even Player C.
Scum 1: And Players D, E, F, G, H..
Scum 2: Who should we go with?
Scum 1: ...
Scum 2: ...
*30 minutes until deadline*
Scum 1 or 2: Uhhhhhhhhhhhh guess we'll go with Player X

#Dead

I love when that happens and it ends up working out.

 

[absolutbro]

So basically an almost full nonstandard game. Cool.

 

[absolutbro]

Just realized that sounds sarcastic, it's not. Not fully. :P

 

[Sorian]

So basically an almost full nonstandard game. Cool.

If I knew what we were getting into, I would have led with something crazier than fake sleep walker.

 

[Sorian]

Oh, wee is scum, ok

 

[Natiko]

So basically an almost full nonstandard game. Cool.

Just realized that sounds sarcastic, it's not. Not fully. :P

I would actually argue it’s not all that nonstandard all told (or at least how it has played out so far isn’t).

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Obviously the possession mechanic and how that impacts the flips is very much a huge deviation, but that hasn’t impacted this game at all this far. The small scum team is a deviation from the norm, but after the Sorian day shot there should be an inclination that the numbers will be off. Scum having multiple day kills would clearly tilt the numbers, and it’s a more reasonable conclusion than multiple neutral killers.

 

[absolutbro]

I would actually argue it’s not all that nonstandard all told (or at least how it has played out so far isn’t).

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Obviously the possession mechanic and how that impacts the flips is very much a huge deviation, but that hasn’t impacted this game at all this far. The small scum team is a deviation from the norm, but after the Sorian day shot there should be an inclination that the numbers will be off. Scum having multiple day kills would clearly tilt the numbers, and it’s a more reasonable conclusion than multiple neutral killers.

I mean, the game has worked out weirdly sure, but purely mechanically it's very nonstandard. You could have a role madness game where everyone opts to not use their powers, that doesn't make the game NOT role madness, just means you have weird players.

 

[Natiko]

I mean, the game has worked out weirdly sure, but purely mechanically it's very nonstandard. You could have a role madness game where everyone opts to not use their powers, that doesn't make the game NOT role madness, just means you have weird players.

Sure, mainly was saying it can’t really be pointed to as the primary reason for town’s failing. I actually think as a full package it’s less crazy than GOT - but that’s subjective.

 

[absolutbro]

Sure, mainly was saying it can’t really be pointed to as the primary reason for town’s failing. I actually think as a full package it’s less crazy than GOT - but that’s subjective.

Oh no, I definitely wasn't trying to say town's loss is because of format. The unusually small scum team makes getting that crucial first flip a bit harder, sure, but that's the closest you could say.

I don't want to sound like I didn't enjoy the game, I did!

 

[Natiko]

Oh no, I definitely wasn't trying to say town's loss is because of format. The unusually small scum team makes getting that crucial first flip a bit harder, sure, but that's the closest you could say.

I don't want to sound like I didn't enjoy the game, I did!

I’m glad you enjoyed it too! Maybe I’ve been putting too much of my own personal bias towards wanting tons of activity color my perceptions of how the game is being received. As long as some people had fun I’m happy at the end of the day.

 

[Natiko]

I’m not sure if I’ll laugh or cry when these arguments cause another mislynch.

 

[Sorian]

whynotboth.gif

 

[Sorian]

Modkill sparks for using unappropriate highlight tags, I'll allow it for the lol

 

[Natiko]

Apparently you’re ruining this game from the grave and leading him down the wrong path. Shame on you.

 

[Natiko]

I’m starting to wonder if he legitimately doesn’t realize m Sorian is dead.

 

[Fanto]

I wouldn't be surprised tbh.

 

[Verelios]

Absolutely amazing how jumbled up the conversation currently is. Tensions are running high.

 

[absolutbro]

At the very least, the current vote situation should clue them in that there are not 5 scum

 

[Fanto]

Let’s all remember Fireblend’s pizza and how town didn’t count before they voted it for him, and then lost on quantity.

 

[Sorian]

Fireblend deserves that pizza. Never let anyone convince you otherwise.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

This day is going to end amazing. The stacked votes on Kopite are gutsy, but not too risky considering Kopite has been pushed as scum for multiple days now. I really hope this comes down to Ty and Kopite, and town pull it off.

 

[Natiko]

Zeke is so spectacularly wrong and disingenuous in how he's digging at Faddy's claim that if I was in this game I have no doubt I would be scum reading him lol

 

[Sorian]

I hope scum flips and they don’t put all the pieces together and still assume Faddy’s role is a lie.

#towngonnatown

 

[Natiko]

"WHY WOULD YOU REVEAL PROTECTING GOG N1 THAT DOES NO GOOD YOU SCUM"

"ALSO TELL ME WHO YOUR TARGETS WERE N2 AND N3 THAT STILL HAVE ACTIVE PROTECTION"

How is there someone saying both of these things with a straight face I don't understand

 

[Verelios]

Your shuffle is weak Young Natiko. Truffle you must.

 

[Natiko]

Oof. Not looking great.

 

[Natiko]

Well..

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Rover is right that it isn't mylo/lylo, but he's also incredibly wrong to not be worried because this is going to effectively doom Town.

 

[Fanto]

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Rover has advocated turbo'ing 2 days in a row now. If I were still alive, I would be calling that shit out hard.

 

[Natiko]

Oh Rover.. lol

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Sparky dropping random nuggets of clairvoyance.

I think scum has left us all in the dust tbh

Scum stacked their votes and vanished, and no one has noticed. That's the only frustrating part of Mafia. How do you separate out low-post players from coasting scum. It's hard to play when a group isn't playing. I mean...they technically are? But...Iunno.

 

[Fanto]

Ok, so...

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Technically the game is over if they don't hit Scum today right? Because even if they hit Scum 2 times in a row now on D6 and D7, there will still be one left in a 2-1 LyLo on D8, and they will have the day shot, so they will just shoot and win during the day unless Town can somehow hammer before that happens, right?

 

[Sorian]

Yikes, Rover’s read on the day vig.

 

[Sorian]

To clarify, it would take the worst town player in the world to shoot a tracker on the day they claimed with no counter claim and clear proof a motion related role is in the game (sleepwalker flip). I don’t care that it was me claiming, that would just be trash play. So not impossible but yikes to assume it’s the case and then use the evidence of “if it were scum, they would have shot already!” when the shots came in a very predictable pattern.

.....

You know, just to clarify, since Rover has spent all game with the worst theories since he just wanted me to be scum.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Oh my god...they're doing it! They might be able to pull back! Someone needs to take a vote off Kopite. Please please please.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Ty can hammer now. Shiiiii

 

[Vincent Alexander]

To clarify, it would take the worst town player in the world to shoot a tracker on the day they claimed with no counter claim and clear proof a motion related role is in the game (sleepwalker flip). I don’t care that it was me claiming, that would just be trash play. So not impossible but yikes to assume it’s the case and then use the evidence of “if it were scum, they would have shot already!” when the shots came in a very predictable pattern.

.....

You know, just to clarify, since Rover has spent all game with the worst theories since he just wanted me to be scum.

He seems to come up with these theories, domino effect kicks in, and he is suddenly 5 steps ahead without reconsidering his foundation.

 

[Natiko]

Sparky dropping random nuggets of clairvoyance.



Scum stacked their votes and vanished, and no one has noticed. That's the only frustrating part of Mafia. How do you separate out low-post players from coasting scum. It's hard to play when a group isn't playing. I mean...they technically are? But...Iunno.

You won't find any argument here. Super low quantity posters can be frustrating to deal with in large quantities.

Ok, so...

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Technically the game is over if they don't hit Scum today right? Because even if they hit Scum 2 times in a row now on D6 and D7, there will still be one left in a 2-1 LyLo on D8, and they will have the day shot, so they will just shoot and win during the day unless Town can somehow hammer before that happens, right?

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The game isn't over because there's still a path to victory if town turbos scum before the day shots.

To clarify, it would take the worst town player in the world to shoot a tracker on the day they claimed with no counter claim and clear proof a motion related role is in the game (sleepwalker flip). I don’t care that it was me claiming, that would just be trash play. So not impossible but yikes to assume it’s the case and then use the evidence of “if it were scum, they would have shot already!” when the shots came in a very predictable pattern.

.....

You know, just to clarify, since Rover has spent all game with the worst theories since he just wanted me to be scum.

I think he believes the role to be a second killing neutral.

As for tonight/tomrorow:

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I hope scum leave the lovers alone tonight, Rover opens up tomorrow shouting for the neutral day vig to claim, and then promptly gets shot in the face by scum lol

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Lmao. Ty so graciously offering to be the hammer if everyone is cool with it....

 

[Sorian]

I have the benefit of knowing how many scum there are so disingenuous take but ooooooof at these last few posts.

 

[Natiko]

Wasn't Rover one of the people yelling at Sorian and scumreading him for forcing vote ties? lol

 

[Natiko]

Rover with the scum play of the game lol

 

[Fanto]

Welp.

Welcome when you get here Kopite.

 

[absolutbro]

I'm just going to start pushing for low post lynches when I don't have any idea who the scum team are. I realize there's a bit of pot/kettle since I am rarely a high post player, but I'm always reading and ready at least.

 

[Natiko]

Welcome Kopite! Refer back to a bunch of spoiler boxes on page 4 for most of the game info.

 

[Kopite]

Welcome Kopite! Refer back to a bunch of spoiler boxes on page 4 for most of the game info.

Before I get there these are my assumptions:

Scum:
Chuggs, Wee, Gog, Ty?

Shooter:
Faddy?

 

[turmoil7]

The chain lunch agreed to three days ago was wrong

 

[Kopite]

Welp you got me Nat

 

[Natiko]

Welp you got me Nat

Look at it this way:

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You had both of the current scum on your list, and town has been flirting with lynching one of them for a couple days now but alas..

 

[Sorian]

lol I hadn't actually read day end, just saw that Kopite was here.

*ticks another box next to Rover's name*

 

[Sorian]

Would the community throw me out if I just made a 25 player game with 0 scum and just RNG'd the kill each night?

 

[Stuart444]

Would the community throw me out if I just made a 25 player game with 0 scum and just RNG'd the kill each night?

I LOVE this idea.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

I'm just going to start pushing for low post lynches when I don't have any idea who the scum team are. I realize there's a bit of pot/kettle since I am rarely a high post player, but I'm always reading and ready at least.

We'll I'm never signing up for a game with AB again.

 

[Natiko]

Would the community throw me out if I just made a 25 player game with 0 scum and just RNG'd the kill each night?

Well it’d never pass an actual review so note to self - don’t let yourself be drawn in by any “special event” Sorian games... lol

 

[Sorian]

Well it’d never pass an actual review so note to self - don’t let yourself be drawn in by any “special event” Sorian games... lol

Oh you, as if I actually get reviewed.

 

[Natiko]

Oh you, as if I actually get reviewed.

Glad I played in the one safe one before this hateful game idea got birthed :P

 

[saenima]

Welp

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Wasn't Rover one of the people yelling at Sorian and scumreading him for forcing vote ties? lol

Rover is the one who made a tie with 12 seconds left, then pointed out a tie I made a full hour earlier as if they were the same thing. Then he went and helped murder two townies.

Nat. Are you telling us the whole truth? Rover has to be scum. That is going to be the epic last minute reveal, ain't it? He is the ONLY scum?

 

[Sorian]

Rover is the one who made a tie with 12 seconds left, then pointed out a tie I made a full hour earlier as if they were the same thing. Then he went and helped murder two townies.

Nat. Are you telling us the whole truth? Rover has to be scum. That is going to be the epic last minute reveal, ain't it? He is the ONLY scum?

All of these things are the town tell. He would have checked out like 3 days ago if he was scum.

 

[Natiko]

Rover is the one who made a tie with 12 seconds left, then pointed out a tie I made a full hour earlier as if they were the same thing. Then he went and helped murder two townies.

Nat. Are you telling us the whole truth? Rover has to be scum. That is going to be the epic last minute reveal, ain't it? He is the ONLY scum?

The real House of Horrors starts now

 

[absolutbro]

We'll I'm never signing up for a game with AB again.

lol at least in your case, other players seem to acknowledge you're in the game. A lot of times players slip into a "forget they're even playing" space entirely.

 

[Sorian]

lol at least in your case, other players seem to acknowledge you're in the game. A lot of times players slip into a "forget they're even playing" space entirely.

I 100% forgot Ty was in the game multiple times during the first couple days.

 

[Natiko]

Scum are convinced that:

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Faddy has to be scum-aligned due to his reads, how he has played, and his claim lol

 

[Verelios]

Scum are convinced that:

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Faddy has to be scum-aligned due to his reads, how he has played, and his claim lol

Haha god damn

 

[saenima]

Scum are convinced that:

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Faddy has to be scum-aligned due to his reads, how he has played, and his claim lol

I mean. I don't know if i can blame them lol

 

[absolutbro]

I 100% forgot Ty was in the game multiple times during the first couple days.

Honestly I feel like I should have pushed hard for his lynch the day I late voted for him. That's on me.

 

[turmoil7]

Scum are convinced that:

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Faddy has to be scum-aligned due to his reads, how he has played, and his claim lol

MVP

 

[absolutbro]

so if scum kill the lovers tonight, game is completely over? Or do they need to do a day kill first?

 

[Natiko]

so if scum kill the lovers tonight, game is completely over? Or do they need to do a day kill first?

Scum will win through either one more mislynch OR never having a day kill stopped.

 

[Fanto]

Welcome Zeke!

*truffleshuffle*

 

[Stuart444]

Okay so, regardless of who wins. Town will lunch Ty... right?

RIGHT?

 

[Kopite]

That will lol

Okay so, regardless of who wins. Town will lunch Ty... right?

RIGHT?

Faddy's a possiblity here too

 

[Kopite]

Scum will win through either one more mislynch OR never having a day kill stopped.

Can they stop a day kill?

 

[Stuart444]

Faddy's a possiblity here too

I won't be surprised but Zeke was going hard at Ty so my first thought would be Ty lol.

 

[Natiko]

Can they stop a day kill?

Turbo before it is submit.

 

[Fanto]

And there's the immediate day shot on the lovers lol

 

[Stuart444]

welp

 

[Natiko]

Town can still win if they lynch scum every remaining day and on D8 turbo prior to a day kill being sent which is...uh, very unlikely but we've seen bigger flubs before.

 

[Natiko]

Faddy with the hail mary prayer fake claim to try and smoke scum out lol

 

[Fanto]

Faddy lmao

 

[Natiko]

Alas, it will not work because they can't even turbo even if he was telling the truth lol

 

[saenima]

Alas, it will not work because they can't even turbo even if he was telling the truth lol

Maybe tomorrow!

If Faddy survives today lol

 

[Natiko]

I honestly don't know what I expect to happen today. Probably a really, really low level of activity and town will sleepwalk into the final mislynch I guess. Don't see them coming together to vote in a big enough block to prevent scum from ending it.

 

[karkador]

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Damn

Was I right about ty and chuggs?

 

[Sorian]

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[Sorian]

Also, look at Mr. "I didn't soft anything" Gaunt Zeke over here

Womp womp

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Also, look at Mr. "I didn't soft anything" Gaunt Zeke over here

Womp womp

Where did I soft it :-)

 

[Fanto]

Are you ok if we go full open spoilers in here now @Natiko?

Damn

Was I right about ty and chuggs?

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Ty, yes. Chugg, no.

 

[Kopite]

Faddy's made questionable decisions this game but I'm really liking this gambit even though its too little too late

 

[Kopite]

Aeleus' breadcrumb lol

Can we agree as a community to stop breadcrumbing roles (results are fine)? No reason scum can't do the same either

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Are you ok if we go full open spoilers in here now @Natiko?

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Ty, yes. Chugg, no.

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long was ty was scum, I can live with it. I tried my hardest yesterday to push for his lunch as the safest choice
T_T

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Faddy's made questionable decisions this game but I'm really liking this gambit even though its too little too late

I was so scared you would flip scum lololol.

I was like damn it’s gonna be an uphill battle if kop is scum.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I still can’t believe I was legit scumread for not tunneling.

 

[Natiko]

Are you ok if we go full open spoilers in here now @Natiko?

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Ty, yes. Chugg, no.

Yes, open spoilers are fine. Ty and Gotham are the current scum for those that don’t know.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I thought gog voting with faddy was odd.

Was I wrong in my reasons for scumreading chuggs?

 

[turmoil7]

Aeleus' breadcrumb lol

Can we agree as a community to stop breadcrumbing roles (results are fine)? No reason scum can't do the same either