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I think you're still cool. There are a lot of green checked players now and no doctors have flipped. Mao probably baiting one with that claim of his too.
What gets me about Mao's Claim is 1. Why would he only protect me especially when he thought I was just a IC in the beginning unless he was a valiant Knight 2. He said he had some negative aspects of his role that would make town suspicious of his role when talking about the nexus stuff. Why didn't he come forward about that aspect when he claimed doctor because now everyone thinks the role is OP. XD
 

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Lol I wonder if Stu is going to die because he needed to kill a certain flavor in a certain amount of days hence why he really wants Muffin gone. XD
 

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What gets me about Mao's Claim is 1. Why would he only protect me especially when he thought I was just a IC in the beginning unless he was a valiant Knight 2. He said he had some negative aspects of his role that would make town suspicious of his role when talking about the nexus stuff. Why didn't he come forward about that aspect when he claimed doctor because now everyone thinks the role is OP. XD

Yeah, like I said earlier on the main thread he could've claimed the nexus part of his role without zero implications about his doctor shots. Saying it affected the "good" part of his role doesn't match.
 

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Just thought about something.

Muffin claims he got infected on night 2 when he checked Sorian. But if he could be infected from checking Sorian, then why wasn't he infected night 1 when he tried to copy me?

In this case I assume the person who infected him was either a person with that very power, or someone targeting him.
 

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Yeah, like I said earlier on the main thread he could've claimed the nexus part of his role without zero implications about his doctor shots. Saying it affected the "good" part of his role doesn't match.
Yep it doesn't at all. Though I guess it'd make sense he wouldn't claim to be a doctor just to protect himself until he had too... but still it's inconsistent.
 

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Welp I was wondering Mao was going to do that. XD I assumed he might have been busy to explain his lack of comments but whatevs.
 

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No. It sounds really ominous actually so I'm not sure what to do with it. Anyone thinks this is their item? I don't know which one would be mine at this point.
I'm pretty sure a sword (I looked it up XD) wouldn't be mine, so if I were you I'd send it off to your best town read that won't die tonight and hope for the best since we know it's not Zeke's. Naturally do not tell us where with spies and all.
 

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Oh, I know it's this cursed sword used by the Lich King from Warcraft, who's a classic big baddie from the series. He basically controls the undead and all that so first thought is that this is a scum item, but not sure.

I guess I'll try to pass it on.
 

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OH FUCK YES I FEEL SO VALIDATED RIGHT NOW!!!

I knew someone was infecting people and I new Mao was scum!!!!!!!!
 

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I looked up Jedah. Anyone familiar with Darkstalkers?
Thank god we don’t have to worry about this damn virus!
I have a great feeling that none of us are scum now. Maybe a neutral but it’s definitely looking good in here right now
 

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Also also the Las Plagas threat is over so yeaaaaaaaahhhhh I was basically the ultimate counter to Mao me thinks considering I was infected but can't be RB'd.
 

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Also yeah that was pretty fucking lame that it was just a puppetting and roleblock ability. :/

Kind of like how I think we are just a neighbor chat that are here to stop Thanos and that's it :/

Mao was trying to be cryptic so we'll see how tonight goes LOL. But yeahhhhhhh!!!!
 

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Should I mention I was infected if I live tonight? Since it helps prove that my role was basically a counter to Mao?
 

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And yeah we need to defo keep the sword away from scum leans. Definitely stick it somewhere safe with someone you can trust and hope they don't get killed or pass it to the wrong peeps.
 

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I'm so pumped I was right about someone holy fuck. I bet Mao was cursing the fact that Swamped attached herself to him XD Probably why he tried to really distance himself.

If I had been wrong I probably would have cried and given up lol
 

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Well, how do we feel about Neon/Stan now?
If I recall correctly, Mao attached himself to Neon pretty early on
That was weird how he gave Neon a pass, but there is a chance he could be pocketing. I'll keep an eye on Stan though since Neon was a null for me personally.
 

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I'm so upset we don't get to be a zombie illuminati cult though DX

So what crazy shit do you think is going to happen though? I got a bit worried in the flavor when Saddler tried to get cap to kill his teammates, but flavorwise I was stopped so probably not. XD
 

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Does it make me look better or worse that he voted me? Usually I’d say worse, but with people already on my wagon from last EOD, I’d say he legit thought people would carry over and try and lynch me still after the TD.
Obviously to infect 25 peeps minus the ones already infected.
Then the las plagas threat isn’t over then? Because it reads to me like the entire faction has that objective, not just saddler...
 

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I just realized this: in their role PMs it says “your fellow [insert group here] memberS are:”

It says it in both PMs. Meaning there are at least 3 members of each group. Meaning we have at least 2 scummies left.

OR

Is Geno lying? What do y’all think?
 

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And shit the flavor doesn't mention us getting cured either.

Either way if people read the flavor, they'll know I'm infected so I can still come forward I guess? You guys should keep quiet just in case they try and infect you guys and waste a shot.
 

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I just realized this: in their role PMs it says “your fellow [insert group here] memberS are:”

It says it in both PMs. Meaning there are at least 3 members of each group. Meaning we have at least 2 scummies left.

OR

Is Geno lying? What do y’all think?
When peeps were speculating about the multiball theory, general consensus was at least 3 scum per team with maybe a few extra so they don't get wiped out by each other.

Additional theory: there aren't any neutrals in this game except maybe Thanos if he isn't just a NPC.
 

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Also LOL something bad would have happened if no one was able to guess Undertaker. I guess that's what Geno meant by that event being deadly. XD
 

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I would not come forward about being infected. It seems to me from the role PM that they don’t know who is infected from the beginning. Many people don’t read flavors from last games so i wouldn’t give them any more info.
I’m sure they want character claims badly
 

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So, potentially, they could accidentally infect people already infected... hmm..

We need to go back and see all the people who were asking if anyone else is infected!
 

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Well yeah I'm saying you guys shouldn't come forward, but it literally said in the day end flavor that cap is (aka me) so..... It'd make sense right?
 

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Ohhhh look another time that gives you one more shot, what a surprise. Seriously guys my item is just going to give me another RB, it's no big deal.
 

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I'm just not looking forward to living possible because of two reasons 1. That grinding event starts at like 1 tonight so I'll be having to balance that and this game (not to mention said event starts on the day I have my shift till 8 ugh) and 2. People might try and spin the whole "cap is infected" into another way to make me look scummy.

I don't know how they will, but they will =-=
 

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So please Mafia scum if you can hear my pleas via spying on me, please end my suffering ;-;
 

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Additionally I need to die sooner than later because I'm getting my wisdom teeth out next friday so I won't be around for at least two days (which also hurts my grinding DX)
 

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Additionally I need to die sooner than later because I'm getting my wisdom teeth out next friday so I won't be around for at least two days (which also hurts my grinding DX)
good luck! i got mine out last year (all 4 at the same time) and had no problems. my surgeon was amazing. healed in less than a week!
 

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good luck! i got mine out last year (all 4 at the same time) and had no problems. my surgeon was amazing. healed in less than a week!
Neat, I'm also getting my four out but my roots are like cement making my teeth hard to remove XD I just hope I can be coherent enough to be able to grind and play the game .-.
 

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Neat, I'm also getting my four out but my roots are like cement making my teeth hard to remove XD I just hope I can be coherent enough to be able to grind and play the game .-.
you'll be fine :D it's not as bad as most people describe. you just need to take care of the open wound and everything will be ok
 
I don't know your ages but I haven't gotten a single one out yet and after hearing how difficult it is I hope I never have to lol.
 

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I'm 28 going on 29 LOL and the reason mine are coming out is because they got infected a few months back. The reason I'm dealing with them now is because I had to wait two months for the appointment with the surgeon to see if my insurance would pay to knock me out during the event (it won't so I have to pay 400 bucks), and they scheduled me a month later originally on Monday when I asked for a Friday. So fun times.

Also Geno I guess this serves as my notice that I'll be missing Friday the 6th and possible some time after that depending.
 

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you'll be fine :D it's not as bad as most people describe. you just need to take care of the open wound and everything will be ok
I've had teeth removed before so yeah I know how to deal with it, the only issue will be eating of course. Last time it was only on the right side of my mouth so I just favored my left for a week. :/
 

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I don't know your ages but I haven't gotten a single one out yet and after hearing how difficult it is I hope I never have to lol.
i had no pain at all. got mine done on a friday and i was back in action on monday. i've heard horror stories so i couldnt thank my surgeon enough lol
I'm 28 going on 29 LOL and the reason mine are coming out is because they got infected a few months back. The reason I'm dealing with them now is because I had to wait two months for the appointment with the surgeon to see if my insurance would pay to knock me out during the event (it won't so I have to pay 400 bucks), and they scheduled me a month later originally on Monday when I asked for a Friday. So fun times.

Also Geno I guess this serves as my notice that I'll be missing Friday the 6th and possible some time after that depending.
dealing with dental/medical insurance is the most annoying thing ever. i've been lucky in that regard when it comes to operations ive needed to have, but it's such a huge hassle.
 

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i had no pain at all. got mine done on a friday and i was back in action on monday. i've heard horror stories so i couldnt thank my surgeon enough lol

dealing with dental/medical insurance is the most annoying thing ever. i've been lucky in that regard when it comes to operations ive needed to have, but it's such a huge hassle.
Yeah I scheduled mine on Friday because that's my day off and since I normally recover fast I figured I'd be back in action for Tuesday (since I have mondays off as well) I just hope I can operate my phone and computer on saturday XD
 

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OMG

That is NOT a RE character!

brooooo, is Muffin Mafia?????
I was just assuming that some scum have fake claims belonging to other franchises because they fit the fake power claims better lol. Having them not be consistent also throws off AB's ability and serves as a counter to it.
 

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I'm sure some townies have the same case, but yeah there is still a chance Muffin is Mafia.
 

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I was just assuming that some scum have fake claims belonging to other franchises because they fit the fake power claims better lol. Having them not be consistent also throws off AB's ability and serves as a counter to it.
but the whole argument was that why would Muffin have different universes as AB's choices? One of the MHA characters fits Muffin's abilities (All For One).
This would prove that scum has fake claims from different universes, thus, Muffin could definitely be lying now.

and check out this conversation:
Still waiting on a response to this, and it's the end of my work day so I'm gonna be busy for a couple hours or so.
Gonna drop a vote on Muffin for now until I get a proper response to the motivation on voting OJ.

Vote: Muffin

The hell man? Your only justification for voting OJ is this:

but you are going after me for voting there? I said that OJs post being concerned about a joke vote on someone felt fake to me early on. Later wee said the same and also brought up the other point which made it seem like OJ was playing dumb om purpose, which I agreed with.

My vote was after the tie and I was voting on the wagon that I felt was most likely to prevent the sudden Swamped wagon that was gaining traction at the moment from going through.

Yours was a couple hours before EoD, and it wasn't a particularly strong reason in the moment of the vote. Though if you were following wee, I can understand that. I don't think there's a good reason to lunch you, and I think town has better options. (Swamped, at least until she shows up)

Anyway, I'm heading to bed. Up way too late, but I'll Unvote before hitting the sack.

This seems shallow AF. Look how easy he gives Muffin the unvote! And yet i am on his ass about why he's voting for me this day phase and he never unvotes me or votes elsewhere.
 

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Point and example, Vere and Swamped got in universe fake claims, while Mao didn't. This also means that the three names Abs gets are probably a mix for town too of all three same and all three not.

Though there is the fact that Muffin's other names were people with copy powers so that's interesting.
 

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but the whole argument was that why would Muffin have different universes as AB's choices? One of the MHA characters fits Muffin's abilities (All For One).
This would prove that scum has fake claims from different universes, thus, Muffin could definitely be lying now.

and check out this conversation:






This seems shallow AF. Look how easy he gives Muffin the unvote! And yet i am on his ass about why he's voting for me this day phase and he never unvotes me or votes elsewhere.
That is definitely interesting.
 

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This post could potentially clear me of scum suspicion. Vere and Swamped also said they saw nothing in my vote. But if they're on a separate team than Mao, this proves that both teams were trying to make me appear suspect
This rushed late wagon on Swamped I do not like. Of the three top wagons, I feel Oliver's has the most merit, and I don't really see any value in the Tearable or Stu wagons.

Vote: Oliver James

i don't want to tunnel the Muffin thing but i feel like there are arrows pointing his way. I will look over the rest of Mao's posts to see if i find anything else.
what i've found so far is AB seems a lot more townie with this flip
 

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This post could potentially clear me of scum suspicion. Vere and Swamped also said they saw nothing in my vote. But if they're on a separate team than Mao, this proves that both teams were trying to make me appear suspect


i don't want to tunnel the Muffin thing but i feel like there are arrows pointing his way. I will look over the rest of Mao's posts to see if i find anything else.
what i've found so far is AB seems a lot more townie with this flip
Well sometimes Tunneling clearly works (like in my case for once XD) but yeah probably a good idea to look over Mao's posts again to see his interactions with other. Having looked over his posts several times before now though, he mainly was defending himself lol His big read post might be a good place to look though.

Also yeah agree on ABs.
 

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It's crazy that all 3 scum flips never got RBd or lost a vote in an event
Shows that either they were lucky or they just didn't participate. It was easy for Vere since he was only in two events and opened a chest later I think. Swamped was fairly inactive, and Mao wasn't there???
 

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And hey I at least can read Fandorin more positively now because he was consistently on Mao's case since the beginning (for my public reads I mean, naturally I'm town reading you Fando). If only we had gotten him out day one lol.
 

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Well sometimes Tunneling clearly works (like in my case for once XD) but yeah probably a good idea to look over Mao's posts again to see his interactions with other. Having looked over his posts several times before now though, he mainly was defending himself lol His big read post might be a good place to look though.

Also yeah agree on ABs.
it just doesn't explain muffin getting infected N2. no one else claimed getting infected that night right? Mao wasnt RBd so he was able to infect. Thus if Muffin is scum, he's either lying about being infected and no one has come forward and said they got infected that night too OR he's on Vere and Swamped's team which is even more of a stretch.

ugh.
 

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Is it possible he already was infected/faked the claim and brought up the claim to try and get people to mention if they were not so they knew who to target? Most people have been quiet about if they are infected so it's possible the real target decided to as well/they picked someone already infected so nothing happened.

Also laughing a little because Saddler was leader of a group called Los Illuminados (The enlightened) XD Considering our group and all.
 

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Plot twist, he was the secret leader of our group able to spy on us and we are in fact his scum partners. XD

/s
 

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Also I'll make another voting chart thing and color Mao red on the previous days to see if that helps in anyway. I'm sure at some point it'll be useful. XD
 

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Is it possible he already was infected/faked the claim and brought up the claim to try and get people to mention if they were not so they knew who to target? Most people have been quiet about if they are infected so it's possible the real target decided to as well/they picked someone already infected so nothing happened.

Also laughing a little because Saddler was leader of a group called Los Illuminados (The enlightened) XD Considering our group and all.
yeah i wonder.. maybe we should bring it up. if someone admits they were infected N2, than we'll know muffin is lying because even if Saddler had the item ability, he couldn't have gotten the item D2 because we know all the items that were in the event of D2. Thus, only one person would have certainly been infected.
Plot twist, he was the secret leader of our group able to spy on us and we are in fact his scum partners. XD
/s
lol you really want us to be apart of something bigger dont you
 

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lol you really want us to be apart of something bigger dont you
Honestly I really do :< When I saw a name like the Illuminati, I was expecting something super cool, but now I just think we are the super secret meeting of the stone wielders with a name that's meant to make town suspicious of us if it ever gets out.
 

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Also their wincon is 25 souls which is a pretty large number for them to be able to win. I wonder if they mean people killed by them and infected? or just infected, because if too many that weren't die they lose automatically.
 

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yeah i wonder.. maybe we should bring it up. if someone admits they were infected N2, than we'll know muffin is lying because even if Saddler had the item ability, he couldn't have gotten the item D2 because we know all the items that were in the event of D2. Thus, only one person would have certainly been infected.
It definitely would be worthwhile bringing up at the very least to see what others think of the matter, but I doubt Mao ever got his item.
 

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It definitely would be worthwhile bringing up at the very least to see what others think of the matter, but I doubt Mao ever got his item.
and if he did the only person that could have passed it to him would have been Fran. did fran say his item got stolen or no?

28 players. 3 on that team possibly. that means theyd have to infect/kill all other players, including the other scum team. which seams like a reasonable wincon seeing as saddler couldnt issue a kill action for that team.

even if muffin is telling the truth, he could still be on vere's team given the fake claim universe reveal.
 

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Mao's team just needed 25 souls (probably via infection?) and Vere/Swamped need the traditional 50% is mafia though they did have the "all additional threats are eliminated" condition.

I wonder if Mao's team count as an additional threat besides possibly Thanos. If Thanos is in the game and a neutral, the last member of Vere's team would want them out too.

But based on these wincons, Vere's team is only a threat to Mao's if they killed too many townies before Mao's could infect them. While Mao's might count as a threat meaning the last member of their team would want them out as well.
 

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and if he did the only person that could have passed it to him would have been Fran. did fran say his item got stolen or no?

28 players. 3 on that team possibly. that means theyd have to infect/kill all other players, including the other scum team. which seams like a reasonable wincon seeing as saddler couldnt issue a kill action for that team.

even if muffin is telling the truth, he could still be on vere's team given the fake claim universe reveal.
Fran has never talked about his item. Additionally I've been suspicious of Apop since the beginning and I honestly wonder if he lied about his item being stolen so no thief would target him. I want to do a reread on him anyways.

Yes they would have to infect the other team, and good point that Mao didn't have a factional kill.

I actually wonder if their team doesn't have one (since they want to infect) and the other kills have been additional abilities/a neutral like Thanos.
 

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Well we know for sure that ABs, and 4 of us were infected at the start of the game so us plus maybe Mao's team would all count towards that number? All I know is they are fucked if too many peeps get killed before they can be infected.
 

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Fran has never talked about his item. Additionally I've been suspicious of Apop since the beginning and I honestly wonder if he lied about his item being stolen so no thief would target him. I want to do a reread on him anyways.

Yes they would have to infect the other team, and good point that Mao didn't have a factional kill.

I actually wonder if their team doesn't have one (since they want to infect) and the other kills have been additional abilities/a neutral like Thanos.
Well, at least Apop told us the item right away which makes me more inclined to believe him. Especially if there ever came a point where we all universe claimed, he'd be smart enough to know that fake claiming an item would be very stupid
 

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Well, at least Apop told us the item right away which makes me more inclined to believe him. Especially if there ever came a point where we all universe claimed, he'd be smart enough to know that fake claiming an item would be very stupid
Yeah he did claim what the item is, which is interesting. The item in question is the X-Blade (literally called the Key Blade because X means Key apparently lol) which implies another KH flavor is in the game. I wonder if the item is for a scum character since it was a very powerful blade and one of the KH villains would fit perfectly for being on the mafia teams since there is the whole light and dark theme going on. There is also a possibility that was lying, but we've been suspicious of Fran for a while anyways.
 

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going back, i dont think muffin is lying about getting infected but i'll still bring N2 infections up next day phase.
he could very well be on vere's team.

I have to go away for an hour in like 3 minutes.
Shit, I dont really have a very big impression of the two besides what I mentioned.

VOTE: Swamped

Mainly because Swamped seems awfully complacent compared to Aeleus who way more actively participates. Is a bit in line how I imagine scum to act after they lost a member already.
also, it was at this point Swamped now had 9 votes and Aeleus had 7.
guess who placed their vote next? on Aeleus? just 4 posts later?
That is fun. Well I'd rather save myself.

VOTE: Aeleus
 

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So you think that Muffin was trying to bus Swamped that day if he's her partner? Or does that give credit to the theory they were on different teams?
 

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I’d say it was a bus because the discussion was definitely leading towards a Swamped lynch. Especially since she pretty much gave up. I feel like it was coordinated that she would and that he would get the points for lynching her
 

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Plus, I’m starting to lean town Stu. Not only for the Stu pressure but because how many risks he’s been taking in terms of events too.
Even the first event he dove in pretty quickly (right after me). I feel like maybe his role might have caused him to be more low key and last day phase he found something out
 

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It doesn’t make sense for someone on scum team to come out like Stu did last phase and put themselves on the radar like that. He would eventually get lynched if he was wrong, don’t you think?
 

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Yeah I could see that being the case, especially since it'd explain why he got infected.

I kind of wonder if all of Mao's team was infected or has to be infected from the beginning. I'm probably wrong, but part of me wonders if he was trying to bait more information, but I could also see opposing scum!Muffin bringing it up to try and get people hunting for the virus causer thinking it was the other team or a neutral.
 

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Yeah I could see that being the case, especially since it'd explain why he got infected.

I kind of wonder if all of Mao's team was infected or has to be infected from the beginning. I'm probably wrong, but part of me wonders if he was trying to bait more information, but I could also see opposing scum!Muffin bringing it up to try and get people hunting for the virus causer thinking it was the other team or a neutral.
Exactly what I was thinking lol
 

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And yeah I kind of think Stu is town too... his weird theories about me earlier made me think he was a townie falling for scums trap of leaving me alive to suffer this suspicion while they pick off better powers .\ , /.
 

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Gonna try and properly reread today/ along with faddy. He seemed to act odd around the mao vote. I called out the post where he wanted stu to claim and “let” mao protect him.

At some point today mao posted something and faddy went “well guess that leaves zeke”

I think ael slides to town side. Apparently he pointed out contradictory in mao’s claim?

Cat is on my list too. This seems like the 2nd day in a row where they were “torn” on who to vote for?

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