Spectator Thread Inside Muffin

it let him copy captain americas role, which as we have seen stated his name to the thread and said he was town.
its not great for muffin but it is a risk he flat out did run, and the alternative is something that i feel was way more unfair in his favour.
I guess it's up for debate what's more unfair but I imo I made the right choice there.
 

Stantastic

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Hey sorian, were you really so certain of me being scum, or were you just playing it up as scum yourself?
i seriously couldnt tell for those last couple days.
 

Sorian

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I guess it's up for debate what's more unfair but I imo I made the right choice there.

If anything, I don't think you should have pre-emptively told him copying cap would have failed, let them go for that whiff if they are ridiculous enough to think it was going to work that easy lol
 
If anything, I don't think you should have pre-emptively told him copying cap would have failed, let them go for that whiff if they are ridiculous enough to think it was going to work that easy lol
That I do agree was probably a mistake.
 

Sorian

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Hey sorian, were you really so certain of me being scum, or were you just playing it up as scum yourself?
i seriously could tell for those last couple days.

I thought you were scum because I thought Wee was scum. The theory falls a part (clearly) once you realize Wee was never scum. If it makes you feel better, after I saw Faddy's fake claim lined up with his real item, I figured the CHAOS emerald would be for the blades of chaos fake claim and wanted to help you but nope :(
 

Stantastic

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I thought you were scum because I thought Wee was scum. The theory falls a part (clearly) once you realize Wee was never scum. If it makes you feel better, after I saw Faddy's fake claim lined up with his real item, I figured the CHAOS emerald would be for the blades of chaos fake claim and wanted to help you but nope :(
you certainly had decent reason for thinking i was scum, its just how absolutely certain you seemed that just felt..excessive i guess?

and for my item im still guessing mine was Rebellion, it being the weapon from the franchises (original) direct competitor.
that or the X-blade for shits and giggles lol.
 

lokiduck

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you certainly had decent reason for thinking i was scum, its just how absolutely certain you seemed that just felt..excessive i guess?

and for my item im still guessing mine was Rebellion, it being the weapon from the franchises (original) direct competitor.
that or the X-blade for shits and giggles lol.
The items were actually random.

It's why Thanos had the Gyroid.
 

Sorian

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The items were actually random.

It's why Thanos had the Gyroid.

Well not all of them, I could pick my item out of a line up pretty easily lol

Like I said in my own scum chat, my flavor actually even told me which item to look for, I just never read the flavor :P
 

Sorian

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well now im just disappointed on multiple levels

I was disappointed that the chaos emerald didn't just count as a wild card gem for Faddy, you all turboed when I went to go take a shower, I wanted to send it to him when he was 1 vote away and I was hoping something dumb would happen.
 

lokiduck

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Well not all of them, I could pick my item out of a line up pretty easily lol

Like I said in my own scum chat, my flavor actually even told me which item to look for, I just never read the flavor :P
Lol that just seems unfair then. XD

well now im just disappointed on multiple levels

Meanwhile I don't even know what my item was. I was secretly hoping it was the Gyroid because Sneeks agreed with me that Cap would totally play Animal Crossing. But stupid Muffin killed me instead of giving it to me :<
 

lokiduck

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I'm also laughing because TP got to have the same item in both games because he ended up as a Sonic character in both and that is hella weird.

When I sent it to Fando thinking i could trust him, I made a joke about emeralds to TP for breadcrumbing later only for it to be his item as well.
 

Sorian

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Lol that just seems unfair then. XD



Meanwhile I don't even know what my item was. I was secretly hoping it was the Gyroid because Sneeks agreed with me that Cap would totally play Animal Crossing. But stupid Muffin killed me instead of giving it to me :<

The one advantage to my team I guess, all of our items were fairly straight foward. Not sure if Rebellion was random but the capcom connection seemed good enough for me.

In other news, poor Saw in that illuminati thread.
 

lokiduck

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Not all, Thanos' was the gyroid because of the fake claim, Kratos was the rebellion because of what Stan said, the microchip works on anyone that has to do with machines.
Oh well then color me wrong then :o
 

lokiduck

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The one advantage to my team I guess, all of our items were fairly straight foward. Not sure if Rebellion was random but the capcom connection seemed good enough for me.

In other news, poor Saw in that illuminati thread.
Yepppp, that thread has been pretty dead since I died, which is for the best because Sneeks doesn't have to put up with Muffin's lies as much.
 

Sorian

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the microchip works on anyone that has to do with machines.

o93CUHf.jpg
 

Sorian

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Was Sadler and Leon the same item and was it also rebellion because of the whole dmc/RE4 thing?
 

Sorian

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Bahahaha VA is such a great doctor (editor's note: great is doing some interesting leg work in this sentence). Does Natiko know he was hit?
 

Sorian

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Was Sadler and Leon the same item and was it also rebellion because of the whole dmc/RE4 thing?

Also, I ask this knowing that Cat got her item at some point, I didn't care to pay attention then and I'm certainly not going to go find it now :P
 
Just to say, I thought it was great that the fake claim was confirmed.

Everyone knew what they were signing up for. A Bastard game where the gamerunner can and will lie.

This just takes the lie up a notch and I love it.

If anything, it's on the player to be skeptical of what the gamerunner says.

I was even skeptical of Loki but I figured it'd be really odd to have a mod-confirmed town type role be announced at the start of the game. I still kept Loki being possible scum in the back of my head (and mentioned it every little bit. sorry Loki <3) but I wouldn't have considered them til near MyLo as a real contender.

tl;dr: Geno did good with this.

(that said, I do agree with an earlier point, we needed more killing roles)
 

lokiduck

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Just to say, I thought it was great that the fake claim was confirmed.

Everyone knew what they were signing up for. A Bastard game where the gamerunner can and will lie.

This just takes the lie up a notch and I love it.

If anything, it's on the player to be skeptical of what the gamerunner says.

I was even skeptical of Loki but I figured it'd be really odd to have a mod-confirmed town type role be announced at the start of the game. I still kept Loki being possible scum in the back of my head (and mentioned it every little bit. sorry Loki <3) but I wouldn't have considered them til near MyLo as a real contender.

tl;dr: Geno did good with this.

(that said, I do agree with an earlier point, we needed more killing roles)
Lol it's okay :P And I get that reasoning though I really hated the hydra jokes.
 
Just to say, I thought it was great that the fake claim was confirmed.

Everyone knew what they were signing up for. A Bastard game where the gamerunner can and will lie.

This just takes the lie up a notch and I love it.

If anything, it's on the player to be skeptical of what the gamerunner says.

I was even skeptical of Loki but I figured it'd be really odd to have a mod-confirmed town type role be announced at the start of the game. I still kept Loki being possible scum in the back of my head (and mentioned it every little bit. sorry Loki <3) but I wouldn't have considered them til near MyLo as a real contender.

tl;dr: Geno did good with this.

(that said, I do agree with an earlier point, we needed more killing roles)
In an earlier draft I had both FoD and FoL kill every night but didn't want the game to end so fast. I wanted it to last at least 8 days but I did the opposite and gave too few kills. Didn't help that nearly all BP's got hit
 

Sorian

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I totally forgot that pic when I made the role, counter point is what the fuck is a genotype microchip anyway. Might have nothing to do with machines.

It’s a type of computer chip that only weird star powered puppets can use.

:D
 

Sorian

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Um, I kind of just realized Fand's pm is missing a line about how he will flip without a role pm

The game is held together by hopes and dreams.

I figured there was something up when I read his role PM but the game was in too deep anyway lol
 

Sorian

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lol @Geno at least tell the poor boy you missed the auto-janitor in the role PM. He doesn't need spend all of his time forming some weird conspiracy theory that Vere is still alive or something.
 

Sorian

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Now he might be broken.

Honestly that should be the easiest punch to roll with at this point.
 
Muffin: I believe AB is telling the truth about his BP. I also think he's not town *votes*
Everyone: Okay

I mean, maybe because of my tunnel, I see it like this but it reads to me as "less BP townies, the better"
 
Um, I kind of just realized Fand's pm is missing a line about how he will flip without a role pm
This explains so much. I thought my whole game was up when you said I died in the same night I fake flipped Weem as myself lol

Thought the extra janitor was a boon from ye Gods hahah
 

Lone_Prodigy

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Town is boned. Their strongest voices left are probably Saw and Chugg and they could be mislunched. Nat as well, but he's a neutral.

Muffin got caught in HvV1 because he was too passive after doing townie things. This time he's learned, plus people are too biased now to see his slips.

And then you've got Brazil who is also town read. However Muffin will likely shoot him at some point.
 
I think the fact that Vere and Swamped got killed early on is actually a huge boon for Muffin here. There was very little interaction between them in those two day phases, doubt there’s something to look for in there.

At the same time, we had a lot of discussion involving the two other scum teams along the game, which inevitably lead to some links between townies and the other factions. If this was a normal game with a single scum team, Neeks would have been pretty much confirmed, but she’s still being considered for the lynch this phase.
 

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I know Brazil is a shady character but like

Thank you for keeping track of this stuff, by the way u.u

can y'all pay attention to who's doing what when and where i mean MY GOD if scum Aeleus kept such meticulous records why would they keep supporting the thread with them when they don't seem to serve any nefarious purpose? It's not giving them any town cred so can it be maybe just town I mean fuck
 

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I think the fact that Vere and Swamped got killed early on is actually a huge boon for Muffin here. There was very little interaction between them in those two day phases, doubt there’s something to look for in there.

At the same time, we had a lot of discussion involving the two other scum teams along the game, which inevitably lead to some links between townies and the other factions. If this was a normal game with a single scum team, Neeks would have been pretty much confirmed, but she’s still being considered for the lynch this phase.
Yep, It does help. And the fact that everyone is like yep yep confirmed no worries there despite Muffin spilling his beans all over the place is the real boon.

No one will trust again after this game and tbh that's good.
 

Sorian

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That's pretty much why we have the Memento picture, isn't it?

And yet it never works :D

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No one's really going after AB too hard any more but his last point is so obvious. Every team needed a way to interact with items. That's simply it. Like if someone wanted to go wild and say he changed alignments then sure but there's just no world where AB started as scum. Even before my spot flipped and there was still a missing FoD partner, it never made sense.
 

Fanto

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Natiko said:
I had also forgotten this whole weirdness D1 in which Aeleus lists three scumreads (Fran, Vere, and Zipped) and only ever bothers to push Fran strong, push Zipped moderately, and then continually claims his read on Vere is gut and not give any reasoning beyond that. Scum teams love to sprinkle scumreads around on their buddies and not follow through early on in order to have some groundwork laid to jump on a bus vote of them if needed without actually being a driving force in their vote wagon.
Sir, this was my bad read, and I request that you give me proper credit for it. :P
 

Fanto

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absolutbro said:
My vote will almost certainly be on either Aeleus or Sawneeks today. But if they flip town, we have to move into "whose claims are shakiest" territory, and unless you can give me a good solid reason for scum to have a Plague Doctor, there's no doubt to me who has the shakiest claim. Plus, your flip tells us about Brazil, since his green-check relies on you not lying about your power. I mean, his claim is sketchy enough since both of his chats targeted people who never got a chance to confirm them, so without your check, Brazil could easily be our final Jeddah's Alliance.
What is this? Logic? In a Mafia game? At endgame even!?!? Town might actually have this still!
 

weemadarthur

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YAY ABSOLUTBRO, YOU GOT THIS. Well, not that people will entertain it, but at least he tried.

Muffin’s defense of “but mod statements” in a bastard game should give people pause. That’s his BEST defense? Come ON.
 

Sorian

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Man, I read this first and had some hope going back to read the main thread. They still doing town bullshit over there.
 

Sorian

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Natiko, I've spent years training you in the ways of winning as a neutral in an impossible situation. I've prepared you for this moment and even gave you the strongest sympathy card ever. You've got this.
 
Natiko, I've spent years training you in the ways of winning as a neutral in an impossible situation. I've prepared you for this moment and even gave you the strongest sympathy card ever. You've got this.
Nah, only if they get Muffin by lynch, otherwise Natiko loses. As much as it pains me to say.
 

weemadarthur

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Lol at 2 of those being scum talking to scum
JUST ONE OMG

S/S
S/T
S/S
T/? (presumably town)

Holy crap this game. This is starting to remind me of Star Wars where the Town Armorers kept handing stuff to scum the entire game.

Well I did give an item to scum, but then you told me to, so.....
 

weemadarthur

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To be fair actually, none of those were S/S

Brazil wasn't scum until after the chat was closed :P
Ah.

I can’t keep up lol.

Did the thread actually get the “able to recruit 2 town” piece of info, or was that limited to spec?
 
Between Sorian and Wee:

Sorian:

Claims the X-blade is his item, hes riku, doesnt want the item because he thinks it might make him evil, and surprised that Stu knew beforehand about his alignment change.


Wee:

Says he is not a pokemon.

*blink blink*
 
Muffin, you have played so well but that's a lot of slips.

Also Brazil is playing masterfully. I honestly wouldn't have realized he was scum even now had I still been in the game.
 

Sorian

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IMagine how big of a revelation this would be if Geno hadn't just shrugged his shoulders and let VA use two actions in the same night for no reason -_-
 
I only scum read Brazil because of the day phase (i cant recall which one it was) he built up this grand argument against me near the end of the day, and he didn't even vote for me. I don't even know if he was scum at that point, but he made the list.

Sorian got a scum read because he told the thread he was acknowledging that he had been tunneling me, and proceeded to unvote me. It freaked me out, tbh.

Muffin, well, D2 and on is my arg on Muffin.

Apo was being too mellow throughout. Plus, he claimed his item was the keyblade immediately after he told us it was stolen. This was AFTER i had grilled Muffin about him taking way too long to tell us his item. So, that's how Apo made the list.

Fran.... Fran, made the list when the game started, and his name only got bolder on the list the longer the game went on lol
 

Sorian

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I only scum read Brazil because of the day phase (i cant recall which one it was) he built up this grand argument against me near the end of the day, and he didn't even vote for me. I don't even know if he was scum at that point, but he made the list.

Sorian got a scum read because he told the thread he was acknowledging that he had been tunneling me, and proceeded to unvote me. It freaked me out, tbh.

Muffin, well, D2 and on is my arg on Muffin.

Apo was being too mellow throughout. Plus, he claimed his item was the keyblade immediately after he told us it was stolen. This was AFTER i had grilled Muffin about him taking way too long to tell us his item. So, that's how Apo made the list.

Fran.... Fran, made the list when the game started, and his name only got bolder on the list the longer the game went on lol

That was real and probably my only real proud moment. For as much as I needed to be scum and stuff, I really wanted to use the opportunity to really scum hunt and I realized you didn't fit right.
 
Muffin, you have played so well but that's a lot of slips.

Also Brazil is playing masterfully. I honestly wouldn't have realized he was scum even now had I still been in the game.
Sorian spoiled it like it was nothing :angry:

Imagine this phase if people didn’t know Brazil is also scum lol
 

Sorian

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Sorian spoiled it like it was nothing :angry:

Imagine this phase if people didn’t know Brazil is also scum lol

Hey don't say open spoilers if you aren't ready for open spoilers :D

All I did was call you out and chuckle.
 

weemadarthur

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Wee:
Says he is not a pokemon.

People are REALLY BAD at pronouns.

Seriously, someone is gonna have to die very publicly to get these people to pay attention AT ALL, nothing has been working for YEARS on this issue.
 
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