Scum Thread Phantom Troupe

Blargonaut

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bringing u to the new page just because

I’m honestly still mulling the choice since it sounds like we aren’t the only action not in. Vere clearly implied there was a percent chance Stu didn’t check him. Does that mean he is a random..what? Redirect, commute, etc? Do we let RNG take the wheel or do we go for Flush and hope he does the block thinking he needs to protect at least Vere as well? It’s good we did this before the mass claim in case Vere is just outright safe.
 

Blargonaut

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When Vere said that about stu's stuff, that was from N1 (talked D2)

So is Vere's shit Odd? N1, N3, N5, etc.

This is Night 5 rn
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
When Vere said that about stu's stuff, that was from N1 (talked D2)

So is Vere's shit Odd? N1, N3, N5, etc.

This is Night 5 rn
Maybe, but even if it is it still seems to not be 100% because Vere indicated there was at least some chance that it was a green check on himself.
 

Blargonaut

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Wait a goddamn minute why are we worried about Royal_Flush gravedigging donna's "PECK" Roleblock when Natiko you are Ascetic?? Flush would have to target YOU to prevent the NK. He doesn't target Vere with a Roleblock to stop a NK, that's how a Doctor Protect works not a Roleblock.
 

Blargonaut

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I still really don't think Flush would opt to pick anything other than nin's Bulletproof Tonight, IMO.

If you're outnumbered by people who're trying to kill you, but you attack hard and fast enough at them in return; each individual enemy's gonna be so scared about saving their own self that they'd forget about their own superior numbers and be more worried about self-preservation than working together to kill you off (True Grit, 2010 paraphrased)

We just ended the Day going full fuck at Town. I'm willing to bet some Sorianbucks that Royal_Flush is more concerned about self-preservation and would've picked up nin's BP Tonight.

Vere's still my vote but I hate it
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I still really don't think Flush would opt to pick anything other than nin's Bulletproof Tonight, IMO.

If you're outnumbered by people who're trying to kill you, but you attack hard and fast enough at them in return; each individual enemy's gonna be so scared about saving their own self that they'd forget about their own superior numbers and be more worried about self-preservation than working together to kill you off (True Grit, 2010 paraphrased)

We just ended the Day going full fuck at Town. I'm willing to bet some Sorianbucks that Royal_Flush is more concerned about self-preservation and would've picked up nin's BP Tonight.

Vere's still my vote but I hate it
Well the one thing to keep in mind is he now knows Kyaa was scum, and he claimed to kyaa in the chat. Thus he knows we know about him being the power swiper, so he would assume we would avoid him due to that.
 

Blargonaut

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Who knows; as I speculated b4, maybe Vere's Role is indeed something like a TRAP CARD, but it makes the Night-action of whoever visits him a %-TO-HIT type instead of the default 100%—

BUT, if so; since Nat you're Ascetic, there could be the possibility on top of that possibility, that his TRAP CARD springs upon you but is immediately countered by your TRAP CARD, yeah? totes.
 

Blargonaut

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recap a bit more for Vere (TY Gor for this):

Oh boy what could go wrong...
Sooo.. Monkey is still standing and has probably some ITAs for us. And a retaliate kill. I volunteer to kill her (there is a risk, see below). My guess is Donna blocked Kyan N2 (she was suspicious of him).

Apart from that Vere is the big unknown here.

Flush has a big set of powers at his hands:
  • Aeleus -> confirm someone, make him immortal next phase
  • Donna -> c&p doesn't work on factional kill, but roleblock is the danger here (point for Natiko doing the deed)
  • Kyan -> go for a 1-1 trade with insta Flush Boom : D at day start
  • Muffin -> random reversal -> irrelevant
Which are still available from before?
  • Kalor -> Bomb FUCK
  • Nin -> does he get BP?
  • Sneeks -> reveal role -> irrelevant
  • Dubs -> steal power -> irrelevant, maybe rep two from the most recent powers?
  • Malus -> bodyguard -> irrelevant
  • Zipped -> cool role but -> irrelevant
 

Blargonaut

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fuck ok. malus was not a default-type of Bodyguard, that's custom variant shit.

He could steal malus' Role, right? That's a possibility?
 

Blargonaut

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For us to admire

malus' Role:

Description: Start out with a 1-shot bullet proof. During the night phase, choose a target using the command Guard: Player.

There are two possible outcomes:
  • If the target is the target of a night kill, this shot will be redirected to the bodyguard. If the bullet proof is still available it will be used up, otherwise the bodyguard will die instead.
  • If at the end of the night there would be two or more unblocked kills, those kills are prevented and only the target of the bodyguard dies instead, even if they were not a target for a kill. This ability can only be activated if the bullet proof has not been used up, and said bullet proof will be used up in the process.
The player is informed when the bullet proof is used.​
 

Blargonaut

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fuck.

IF he can steal malus' Role:

Flush becomes 1-shot Bulletproof.

He then Guards: Verelios Tonight.

We attack Verelios -> Flush takes the hit AND survives because of the 1-shot BP?

We attack Flush head-on -> Flush is straight-up BP, survives
 

Blargonaut

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We do no-kill

Day-start is 3 vs. 3 as-is OPEN WOLF

We stare at each other, each side unable to majority over the other

Or if Dr. M's ITAs are up; take potshots while staring

Day ends in no-lunch; Night 6 begins

malus' Role is hopefully expended by Flush already from Tonight, so he can't steal it again; but he then picks up nin's BP most likely

but if Dr. M used her ITA, Dr. Monkey is vulnerable to being Night-killed since no more TRAP CARD; we attack Dr. M -> Win.
 

Blargonaut

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fuck me. Can we see the missing Role (if any) in game-thread now? Or is the dealer of the house hiding that card, so to speak
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
fuck me. Can we see the missing Role (if any) in game-thread now? Or is the dealer of the house hiding that card, so to speak
Nah Fran won’t do that until actions lock. Also, he can’t steal the used BP. If a role is used up that’s exactly how Flush will inherit it.

Vere is probably a coin flip. The thing is, if Royal doesn’t take a killing role all he can do is stop a NK. That just puts us at 3:3. Then their ONLY hope is three ITA shots, with none of ours hitting. If you and I are here when it starts and we shoot, maybe they’ll go for Gor to try and deny his ITA but that will just unleash the day kill so it balances right back out. Hmm.
 

Blargonaut

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ok before we REALLY decide; who are we gonna ITA-shoot at? Dr. Monkey with her own bullets right? I guess it doesn't really matter I just wanted to say it
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I think maybe I’ve talked myself back into Royal. Maybe. Choosing is hard
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
ok before we REALLY decide; who are we gonna ITA-shoot at? Dr. Monkey with her own bullets right? I guess it doesn't really matter I just wanted to say it
Sure, it’s poetic. I gave her a gun, now when she gives me one I’ll use it to shoot her in the face.
 

Blargonaut

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I'm still for killing Verelios. Still my opinion that we KNOW FOR SURE that RF could have a BP, why shoot at that?

We DON'T know if Vere has anything. RF can't protect Vere with anything on the current corpses.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I'm still for killing Verelios. Still my opinion that we KNOW FOR SURE that RF could have a BP, why shoot at that?

We DON'T know if Vere has anything. RF can't protect Vere with anything on the current corpses.
We know he has some percent chance of actions not applying to him. If it’s a commute or something that would be fine. If it’s a redirect we could shoot ourselves and not in the fun blood canyon way. That’s what I’m worried about at least.
 

Blargonaut

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Regarding his %-SCRAMBLER, it's never been proven though, only hinted at, and I use "hinted" loosely because that's me looking at Vere's 2 whole posts and assuming their hints to give me peace of mind
 

Blargonaut

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Oh, I see your point about the possibility of Vere being a Dr. Monkey-esque TRAP CARD.

...

But what if it isn't??????

I'm for exploring the unknown

But I understand your POV
 

Blargonaut

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I still say shoot Vere

You have an Ascetic suit, you can't be touched by any TRAP CARD except something fatal, and stu allegedly already visited Vere with his Investigate, and stu didn't die from it.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
They’re both crap shoots. Because Vere is an unknown it’s inherently risky to go for that. The WORST CASE is Flush doesn’t die when we go there. We have no idea what the worst case of Vere is. If we dodge the ITAs there’s literally no way for them to ever win unless Royal stops grabbing protective roles.

YEAH, STU VISITED HIM ALREADY (ALLEGEDLY), RIGHT?

SAFELY

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Stu got a green check. What we don’t know is if it was on Vere, if it was redirected to someone else, what. Let me put it this way:

If we go Royal and he grabs a protective role:
3-3 no change

If we go Royal and he grabs a killing role:
2-3 we win

If we go Vere and he dodges, and Royal grabs a protective role:
3-3 no change

If we go Vere and his role can redirect, and Royal grabs a protective role:
3-2 ruh roh

If we go Vere and he dodges, and Royal grabs a killing role:
3-2 ruh roh

If we go Vere and he redirects, and Royal grabs a killing role:
3-1 RUH ROH
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Even if we assume Vere can’t redirect and he’s a commute or something - that leaves Royal grabbing a killing role open, which I think is our only way to actually lose short of ITAs hitting me or you. If we always pressure Royal eventually we should win.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Like if we go Vere on a 50/50 and miss and Royal actually went for a kill hoping to bluff us out we are hosed. He only lives grabbing Nin, which he can only do once.
 

Blargonaut

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I see your list and I acknowledge its potential truths

I will absolutely understand if you shoot RF so we have a bigger chance of long-gaming a Win into fruition if our NK whiffs; no hard feelings if you do that

But if I was in your position, even after reading all that and taking that all in; I personally, would still gamble the Vere shot

That's just what I would do
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I’ll do it for you Blarg. If you feel strongly I’ll give you this after denying you the Blood Cannon. I think Flush is the move, but I can play it dangerous. What’s a win without style.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Take your decision to the new page at least so we can heighten the dramatic tension a bit more for our ten future readers
Our decision. If you want Vere say it and I’ll do it. If you leave it to me I’ll go Flush. Teamwork makes the dream work and all that.
 

Blargonaut

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This post is a flash-forward to a gravestone under a quaint seasonally-barren tree but the name on the gravestone has been weathered off by the elements and is no longer legible
 

Blargonaut

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Blargonaut

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Gorlak what do you thinkohhhhh fuck me do it shoot Verelios ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
 

Blargonaut

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RF can be Bulletproof and we don't know Vere so it's less risky but more risky ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Gorlak what do you thinkohhhhh fuck me do it shoot Verelios ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Final answer?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
RF can be Bulletproof and we don't know Vere so it's less risky but more risky ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Like I said the biggest concern with going Vere is it let’s Royal do an offensive move against us potentially.
 

lokiduck

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Congrats scum team! You guys had a lot of great ideas :D I wanted to like a lot of your posts. Especially yours Blarg. XD
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
This is why I said we play as a team! Great call Blarg o7 Pleasure playing with you all.
 

heymonkey

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Congrats, y'all. You all played incredibly well and even though Natiko is the worst person in the entire universe, that's a win well earned.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Gods this scum thread has more replies than Mafiera and that was a game with +25 players, gotta commend the commitment to shitposting

Moriel is a great character but I don't know how it works with a switcher. Because of his shadow clones, I guess?

I wanted a canonical manipulator to fit with the Nen but there aren't many that would make sense with switcher, I went with him but was unsatisfied tbf
 
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