You can tell them anything you want.
Because I am Fantomas!Hello. What is going on? Why is Illuminati Member 5 so much like Fantomas?
Because I am Fantomas!
Now you all know I'm not lying.
I think everyone believes you Fanto hahah. No reason to distrust a self claim like that.I suppose the timestamps could maybe be coincidental there since I did it at basically the same time as I posted in here lol.
But still, I think that's an easy way to confirm identities. We'll just need to make sure we say what we're doing in here, and then go do it in there a few minutes later, so we know it wasn't fake.
I still have the normal Town win con in my PM, so I think this is probably just a Neighborhood or something like that, at least for now.The mod-kill for even mentioning the Illuminati outside of this group makes me think that this is our one and true alignment. I mean, I'm considering this an alignment on itself, even though I didn't get a wincon.
I'm guessing this is true for everyone else?
It's me.
Yeah I’m unsure what everyone’s alignments will be in here as really we won’t officially know unless someone from our group flips. Since I’m the only one that you know for sure is a member (being confirmed cap and all) I’ll leave it up to you guys whether you will disclose your abilities and identities.I don't know if we should reveal our roles to each other here though, at least not yet. I am Town though, we don't have any guarantee that there isn't Scum in here.
I just prefer being open about my identity, especially seeing that we know Loki is in here. I suppose you can all choose whether or not you want to believe me, but let's be honest, someone would have had to go digging to find this specific version of my avatar, it's not the one I'm using on Era or OM right now.
One thing that we can do to confirm identities is breadcrumb to each other in the thread.
Simple things, just like quotes and stuff.
For example, I am going to go quote one of Loki's posts right now and post a gif of Chloe and Max bumping their fists.
This seems like a reasonable way of confirming things so I agree with this as a plan. I’m not personally comfortable breadcrumbing stuff because I’m worried I might mess it up (seriously how did scum not realize I was partnered with Ket in SU XD), but it’s a good plan to confirm identities.I suppose the timestamps could maybe be coincidental there since I did it at basically the same time as I posted in here lol.
But still, I think that's an easy way to confirm identities. We'll just need to make sure we say what we're doing in here, and then go do it in there a few minutes later, so we know it wasn't fake.
Can confirm that wincon is the town one. As for your opinion, you might be right that this is our true alignment. We’ll see how it develops though.The mod-kill for even mentioning the Illuminati outside of this group makes me think that this is our one and true alignment. I mean, I'm considering this an alignment on itself, even though I didn't get a wincon.
I'm guessing this is true for everyone else?
Yeah I think we might be neighbors, so for now let’s consider us that way until we have more info.I still have the normal Town win con in my PM, so I think this is probably just a Neighborhood or something like that, at least for now.
There could be some other abilities in play we don't know about that will change things, since this is Bastard I think we can safely assume that things could get wild in here lol.
you picked the perfect post to quote from me as it looks pretty natural so no one should notice it.One thing that we can do to confirm identities is breadcrumb to each other in the thread.
Simple things, just like quotes and stuff.
For example, I am going to go quote one of Loki's posts right now and post a gif of Chloe and Max bumping their fists.
And I got my eye on you numbah 4 ;)Well, well, well. Hey everyone, looks like there's 5 of us so yeah, probably not all town. I've got my eyes on all of you
Yeah, it's up to everyone else if they want to share anything, I prefer at least being open about my identity but that's just me.I’m fine with letting everyone be anonymous even if I don’t get to be :< (which again is very Cap)
Yeah, I think those are the kind of breadcrumbs that we can go for here, just say "I'm going to quote this person and say X, Y, or Z" in here, and then go do it in the thread.you picked the perfect post to quote from me as it looks pretty natural so no one should notice it.
So we haven't heard from an Illuminati Member 1 yet, correct? I suppose there is a chance that Loki is technically #1 and the rest of us are the other 4 anonymous members, but there is a chance that we have 6 total in here still, or even more if there are numbers past mine.
Would be funny if we were Hydra and we didn’t even know it
I'm trying to weigh what are the benefits to the Town players here for revealing identities versus the benefits for any Scum players here knowing our identities.
I actually think the Townies in here knowing everyone's actual name is probably more useful to us since we already started with less info than Scum. If we know who all is here, we can coordinate things and also put reads on each other based on things said in here and things said in the game thread. We can keep an eye on each other basically.
Scum would just learn who has this role, but not any other abilities that we may or may not have access to. Whether they know our identities or not, they are already privy to our conversations if one or more of them are in here.
In terms of conversations in here, I personally give zero fucks about Scum knowing what I talk about. I have been in 3 different situations, now 4, where I was in a private chat with a player whose alignment I did not know, and I have never been shy about sharing my thoughts with them. One of those times Scum was able to see everything we said without even being in the chat with us, for all we know that's the case with this one as well.
So I suppose my point is that, in my opinion based on my experience with private chats in these games, I'm not going to be shy about saying anything in here, but you all can make up your own minds on that I suppose.
I will post hot take reads in here during the day probably, I might workshop my read lists here before posting them in the thread as well.
During the night I am probably going to do a lot of work. It's not really a worry of mine if Scum sees it or not, because if I can get the chance to do it, as in if I don't die, I'll post it in the game thread as well ASAP, so they would have seen it anyways. If they want to try coordinating with my reads during the night to like, make some push on a wrong read of mine, I can sense that shit happening anyways, and they can try pulling it during the day after they see my reads like they have done to me many times in the past, it doesn't make much of a difference when they see my reads really, they're going to see them eventually.
In the event that I should die, anyone here who is Town will hopefully be able to make use of any reads or conversations we had in here over the night, so I see it as a net positive either way basically.
Yeah, I'm guessing it will just be us without anyone else able to join, but it's possible.For now at least we know there are five members at least, and I doubt we may get more because I feel like Geno might have mentioned if more can be recruited... (Since that's how it works with recruitable scum???) but again I could be wrong on that with this being a bastard game.
Pretty much, yeah. I'm not going to try to force anyone to share anything, but I do think it's worth talking about what we want to do in this chat and how we want to use it. It's here for a reason.Yeah I have to agree with this. When I first learned I was going to have another private chat (Since I got one in my first game too), I was wondering if everyone would be of the same alignment or not and personally I think the best policy is for everyone to just be as open as they personally want to be.
If you want to keep who you are a secret that is fine, and if you want to keep your role secret then that's probably even better since we may have scum in here. Like you I'm probably going to post my reads and opinions in here just to bounce ideas off of all of you (which I learned in my first game is really useful) and keep it casual. The good news is that since we have this chat, is we can work together to solve the game and back each other up, though part of that is hindered if some of our members are scum in here.
Ooohh, fancy Costume banners? Cool lol.
Yeah, I'm guessing it will just be us without anyone else able to join, but it's possible.
Pretty much, yeah. I'm not going to try to force anyone to share anything, but I do think it's worth talking about what we want to do in this chat and how we want to use it. It's here for a reason.
I'm planning to just use it as I would use a Mason or Lovers chat, which is exactly how I've used Neighbor chats or similar things in the past. The only difference is that I don't know my partner's alignment in these cases, so I'm still trying to put honest reads on them and their behavior based on both the game thread and the private thread.
I honestly wondered if we were Masons at first as well, though I think it's more likely we are just neighbors.Wait, Masons... Illuminati...
Are we just Masons? Lmao.
Same, but if it winds up that we were all Town here, I called it pre-game lol. :PI honestly wondered if we were Masons at first as well, though I think it's more likely we are just neighbors.
That's a really valid point actually. If numbah 3 is correct in that our illuminati status is our true alignment then that makes me wonder if there is even scum in here.One thing that just occurred to me...
Right at the top of this thread, we are all told that we are not to mention the Illuminati outside of this thread or we will be modkilled, period.
Therefore, if there is a Scum player in here, would they even be allowed to report back to Scum chat? That would be them talking about the Illuminati outside of this thread...
Since the game is labeled Bastard we can't be sure, but I don't think that would be the case, it seems pretty clearly defined to me.However, this is all based on scum not being able to tell their mates about us, and there is a chance that scum chat is the only location where that is allowed.
I would say it is highly likely there is one Scum player here in my opinion, any more than that I think would probably be unlikely.Anyways, what I want to ask all of you is how likely do you think there is scum in here? Do you think it's extremely likely? Do you think it's not at all likely?
Since the game is labeled Bastard we can't be sure, but I don't think that would be the case, it seems pretty clearly defined to me.
I would say it is highly likely there is one Scum player here in my opinion, any more than that I think would probably be unlikely.
The problem is we don't know exactly how Geno and Gorlak designed the game so it's hard to speculate for sure. For all we know, the Illuminati members were selected at random after the initial roles/alignments were set, that's a perfectly valid thing to do, especially in a game like this. It's also entirely possible that our roles/alignments came with this added Illuminati part from the start and it was all predetermined which characters would be in the Illuminati, we just don't know.
I think it's pretty likely there's at least 1 scum in here. The odds of 5 town members being able to confirm each other like this is a bit dangerous, but there's also a decent chance that we'll start dropping like flies when the game starts. The idea of this being our real alignment and needing to do something later is plausible too, hard to say right now because this game is bananas and nothing will quite make sense until we see it!
Yep. We'll see what happens there.And then all those damn treasure chest or whatever lol we'll see what happens there.
Cap, I don’t mean to put you on blast, but I went back and read the last game and I had a question.
idk if Geno could be lying to us and that there is scum in here and that player can communicate with other scum. Geno gave us no indication of lying to us last game, so I don’t think this is the case.
that one scum can operate with their own abilities and be our downfall just by themselves.
we have a third party neutral in here. This seems like it could be the most likely scenario To be honest.
but, to my question: Cap, are you still infected with las plagas?
btw, should I call you loki? it just felt right calling you Cap for some reason haha
yeah I was struggling with bringing it up b/c there’s 1/5 chance the person that trait corresponds too might be in here.Mind you since there might be a neutral or scum in this thread, i'm not sure if it's a good idea that they know about the las plagas thing... >>
Mind you since there might be a neutral or scum in this thread, i'm not sure if it's a good idea that they know about the las plagas thing... >>
I'm not sure what this stuff is about and I didn't read the last game, but I am not infected with anything and I do not know for sure if my character was in the last game or not.Lol Cap it is then!
yeah I was struggling with bringing it up b/c there’s 1/5 chance the person that trait corresponds too might be in here.
but I’d rather bring it up here than in the game thread and that was the gamble I chose. I’m infected, too.
anyone here a returning character from last game’s “story?” So, one that wasn’t a role from last game.
Lol Cap it is then!
yeah I was struggling with bringing it up b/c there’s 1/5 chance the person that trait corresponds too might be in here.
but I’d rather bring it up here than in the game thread and that was the gamble I chose. I’m infected, too.
anyone here a returning character from last game’s “story?” So, one that wasn’t a role from last game.
I'm not sure what this stuff is about and I didn't read the last game, but I am not infected with anything and I do not know for sure if my character was in the last game or not.
i was thinking we were potentially remnants of the heroes from last game either playable or mentioned. from there, I was hoping to find a way to confirm the townies in here, but it’s still Day 1 so it’s really not a big deal right now.I'm not sure what this stuff is about and I didn't read the last game, but I am not infected with anything and I do not know for sure if my character was in the last game or not.
I agree with this reasoning. I was wondering if it'd mention our member status since we might die at any time.i was thinking we were potentially remnants of the heroes from last game either playable or mentioned. from there, I was hoping to find a way to confirm the townies in here, but it’s still Day 1 so it’s really not a big deal right now.
im guessing since we can’t speak about this club outside this thread that upon our death, the flip won’t indicate our involvement in this.
it would be nice if we could know if one of our members dies at least in this thread. that would be especially helpful if scum gets killed and that way we’d know they were in this thread
She's on to us already!Cat said:I don't think it's a waste of time to discuss Loki's role, but I do agree that it would be best not to go after her.
I have a feeling there's more to it than a confirmed town role, but that unknown is precisely why I'd be wary of voting her out D1. :/
I don't think it's a waste of time to discuss Loki's role, but I do agree that it would be best not to go after her.
I have a feeling there's more to it than a confirmed town role, but that unknown is precisely why I'd be wary of voting her out D1. :/
Lol great minds think a like I guess. XDShe's on to us already!
Lol
I'm a female cap thank you very much :PI’ve been thinking that LokiCap being in here as a confirmed town from the get go is to help other town players to be open too, at least with him. Considering that he’s the only one costume-less too.
Much for that, I don’t think we are all townies in here, so I’d refrain from revealing much info in here about our roles.
I always read it as a pun, like Low-Key Duck lol.(However my username is not actually connected to Marvel's Loki or really even the Norse God kind of???)
Story time!Yeah I still don't think we should role claim here for now.
I always read it as a pun, like Low-Key Duck lol.
I wish it had been a pun though because that'd be amazing.Yeah I still don't think we should role claim here for now.
I always read it as a pun, like Low-Key Duck lol.
Ah cool haha, my user name is just the name of a band lol. I'm actually thinking about just changing it to Fanto though since that's what most people call me.Story time!
I was in Junior High when i made a drifter character named Loki (got the name from norse mythology) that had no connection whatsoever to the God.
I had two devil Rubber Ducks (Still have them) so I named them... Loki and Duck, Loki being named after that character.
I needed a username one day... and so I made Lokiduck and here we are.
Sorry Cap! That was lazy of me. First time playing with you and didn’t go after the player list.I'm a female cap thank you very much :P
It's no problem. ^^Sorry Cap! That was lazy of me. First time playing with you and didn’t go after the player list.
I was just about to say the same thing lol.I always keep a list of all the players nearby just to make sure I get everyone's usernames and pronouns right. XD
Lol great minds think a like I guess. XD
I was a bit concerned about rushing it and revealing info without knowing what exactly this chat is about, considering the costume accounts and all the secrecy, but I've been thinking about it and keeping information is probably more beneficial for scum than not.Can I ask why the other anonymous members here have chosen to stay that way? Just curious I suppose.
As for the game thread, I'm not much of a fan of diving into mechanics speculation early on, so I'm just kind of hanging out seeing what others are talking about for now.
Chugg's role claim is interesting, I tend to believe it just on a Meta level because I feel like that is the kind of thing Chugg would do as Town. I'm not sure if he would come up with an elaborate role claim on D1 as Scum.
Welcome officially then Fandorin! If you are who you say you are, then we have two of the Fa named players that Wee is joking gunning for so we better watch out.I was a bit concerned about rushing it and revealing info without knowing what exactly this chat is about, considering the costume accounts and all the secrecy, but I've been thinking about it and keeping information is probably more beneficial for scum than not.
Fandorin here!
Elaborating, I think the costumes might actually be here to help scum players keep hidden than the other way around. After all, we got LokiCap here as confirmed town and she's the only one without a costume.
I was a bit concerned about rushing it and revealing info without knowing what exactly this chat is about, considering the costume accounts and all the secrecy, but I've been thinking about it and keeping information is probably more beneficial for scum than not.
Fandorin here!
Yeah, that was pretty much the mental math I did on it as well, I think it helps Town to know who is in here more.Elaborating, I think the costumes might actually be here to help scum players keep hidden than the other way around. After all, we got LokiCap here as confirmed town and she's the only one without a costume.
Weem hate for the Fa seems pure fluff, though I thought is was a weird starting point lolAl
Welcome officially then Fandorin! If you are who you say you are, then we have two of the Fa named players that Wee is joking gunning for so we better watch out.
Yeah you might be right in this case as scum can pretend to be someone if they choose to actually claim which will throw off our reads a bit.
Yeah I'm considering what Weemad is doing as mostly joke posting (that part at the very least) so I'm not taking it seriously. They seem more committed to thinking I'm scum though. XDWeem hate for the Fa seems pure fluff, though I thought is was a weird starting point lol
I hadn't thought that scum could purposely pretend to be someone else in here. Risky as hell though since we could demand specific posts in the game thread, sorta like Fantomas did before game start.
I have bad memories with cults, but I'd be fun to have a confirmed townie turn cult just like that haha.Yeah, I feel like at this point it would be too risky for Scum to try claiming as someone else in here. We know how to confirm each other if we have any reason to doubt someone, if someone didn't want to make a predetermined post then that would obviously mean they are lying to us.
Also, this is gunna sound weird coming from me, but I really kind of hope we can somehow turn into a Cult in the future lol.
Probably best to keep it simple, like maybe just put a gif in your next post or something? I think we can reasonably assume that would be enough of a hint to us that you are Fando.I'm all ears for some weird phrase for me to confirm myself lol.
Yeah, because of that line about the modkill, I still think it's likely there is a Scum player in here who has to keep this a secret from their teammates, and Scum don't usually change alignments since that can break things wide open obviously.I have bad memories with cults, but I'd be fun to have a confirmed townie turn cult just like that haha.
Knowing Geno we might have a weird survival neutral out there that can convert us or something like that. At the risk of being an conspiracy theorist, but I don't think this will be just a honest chat between us. The modkill penalty doesn't line up with Neighbour chats from what I know.
I'm all ears for some weird phrase for me to confirm myself lol.
Let me pick my OM avatar in here to get stylish like you guys.
I have bad memories with cults, but I'd be fun to have a confirmed townie turn cult just like that haha.
Knowing Geno we might have a weird survival neutral out there that can convert us or something like that. At the risk of being an conspiracy theorist, but I don't think this will be just a honest chat between us. The modkill penalty doesn't line up with Neighbour chats from what I know.