Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
They could be Lovers and that is why they are so cagey about names.
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They could be Lovers and that is why they are so cagey about names.
Ty4on
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Consistency. I called out both homeland and Benghis early on if you actually go back and look but then homeland actually started posting while Benghis did not. I could have just dropped both threads but that felt scummier to me (when I called out Benghis I actually didn't even realize he was a teammate so reading into that would have always been dumb luck).
I already talked on this. Ty's vote and timing was fine in any normal community. Whatever on our meta, the real issue is Ty had been very hands off all game and suddenly made a right call in the last moments of the day which was a very sharp contrast.
Who Flipped mafia? Banned and all ya know for another day. Lol
Exmachina64, if you are banned you can't even access the site?
Not without going Incognito and going through threads to find it. That's too much work.
Damn, I think I had exmachina as Town.
Yeah that was a bad play, considering he went on to claim survivor and not even town. Town has no reason to not lynch a claimed enemy of town. And mafia would've been ahead probably.
Faddy
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What was he trying to achieve? Just take the lynch. Worst case scenario was 1 v 1 v 1.
I really don't know, we need him to come in and explain. I guess he thought 1v1v1 he would lose because Cult agrees with town to lynch mafia, cult recruits the last town in the night and there are only cult remaining, so the last townie has no reason not to lynch the mafia, since he wins.
Maybe it's because I'm on the outside but I have trouble understanding the Kyan push. He's been open and transparent, if flawed, but his motivations feel very town. Kyan, Stan, Melon, Fran, and Include are people I don't think I'd be lynching. I can see the push for Gog or turmoil.
eta: and to continue that thought - hom3land I probably wouldn't lynch. That's a good list of people who have really appeared town, leaving Gog, turmoil, Swamped, Flush, Brazil, Blarg. Should be a town win.
BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
eta: and to continue that thought - hom3land I probably wouldn't lynch. That's a good list of people who have really appeared town, leaving Gog, turmoil, Swamped, Flush, Brazil, Blarg. Should be a town win.
BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
Ty4on
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drunk posts, duh
Stan's relative inactivity is kind of a special case due to timezones and Stan-ness and so weighing Stan is hard, but I do feel like he's made some effort here in a particular Stan way. I have wildly misread him before twice so I'm pretty cautious now. As a player I'd be hesitant and willing to be wrong on that one but i don't think I'd go for Stan, though I'd probably push him harder for particular reads.
I mean, also this.
cabot
Why.
it's funny cause I can usually read Stan well, but watching him this game I'd definitely be suspicious of him. I don't get the sense he's trying to push the game forward, hes sort of there. He just plonks a vote down and then isn't there for deadline.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I have no idea how turmoil7 has come to the conclusion one of him, gog or kyan is scum or that their flip will clear or implicate the others.
In Bill and Ted I found his posting to come off as very smug (not helped by his avatar) but at least in that game he had the fortune of being correct.
Like his assertion earlier that scum feared him being a IR because he had a couple of posts scum reading Sorian and briefly Ty.
People (not me apparently) have better things to do on the weekend than read forum mafia. If they follow through and lynch Stan then they would be following the suggested play from Crab earlier. So not a complete disaster.
In Bill and Ted I found his posting to come off as very smug (not helped by his avatar) but at least in that game he had the fortune of being correct.
Like his assertion earlier that scum feared him being a IR because he had a couple of posts scum reading Sorian and briefly Ty.
People (not me apparently) have better things to do on the weekend than read forum mafia. If they follow through and lynch Stan then they would be following the suggested play from Crab earlier. So not a complete disaster.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
I'm sure this is already known, but I never breadcrumbed Nicole.
Ty4on
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What posts are you replying to?
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Derp, I'm just stupid
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
If you're an investigation role you can hide your results so that if you flip and are confirmed before claiming town can go back and find your results.
Other than that, no benefit. In my experience scum are better at picking up breadcrumbs than town, so it's actually counterproductive.
Other than that, no benefit. In my experience scum are better at picking up breadcrumbs than town, so it's actually counterproductive.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Is there no way to jump to "last unread post" on outermafia?
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Yeah if I could do it over I wouldn't even refer to the crumb. And I would've claimed cop, not hider, so I could bait the scum kill.
C'est la vie.
C'est la vie.
Faddy
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rac you clearly haven't read Ouro's game. You should do that.
Basically we had a town hider and they died. No one could figure out who they hid behind. It was a whole thing in the final days. Also Monkey threatened me with physical violence. It was a real ride.
In Rick and Morty Sorian as a neutral did some heavy crumbing towards having an investigative role so that when no one stepped forward with checks he stepped in to fill the role.
For Fran and Melon they never actively claimed. A forced claim is different and requires less "evidence" and they used their somewhat weak crumbs to counter Splinter. And that would be fine for claiming partner if one of them was NK'd as well.
oh wow, did I? hahaha
That game was intense.
cackling
Ty4on
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Probably too wifom, but I kinda want scum to not touch any of the confirmed townies lol
killing melon or Fran is probably best choice tho. I kinda wanna go homeland; Include too much info unless they can be sure she flips PR
Wasn't really a lynch. It just sorta happened.
flatearthpandas
Round Moon Bears
I had some doubts when they lynched coolest but I do believe town is going to pull this one off. Not bad
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
Kyaaa. Lying? No, but I get you mean it looked like that from non-Kyaaa pov. Botched the thing rather well though. When Fran OG asked for my reason for avoiding LP, I was thinking about how I wanted to secure my results and wrote that in, completely forgetting to take a step back in the reasoning and explain the bit that came before, the part about prio and whatnot. That in mind, a fair kill imo, though it certainly has strong smell of paranoid town around it.
The claim timing discussion here is interesting. One thing you missed was the whole claiming at the final minutes bit that plagued this game. I wanted to go against that in hopes that it'd feel more town, fully aware ofc that if claims like the one I did were more common around scum circles, I'd get some major pushback. I'd note that it was my mistake that killed me, not the timing. Nobody afaik even brought up the idea that once the mistake makes this a scum claim, the timing of it becomes more suspicious as well.
Outcome? Hmm. Dunno what prs are left now. Know the ppl though sooo. Scum lean?
The claim timing discussion here is interesting. One thing you missed was the whole claiming at the final minutes bit that plagued this game. I wanted to go against that in hopes that it'd feel more town, fully aware ofc that if claims like the one I did were more common around scum circles, I'd get some major pushback. I'd note that it was my mistake that killed me, not the timing. Nobody afaik even brought up the idea that once the mistake makes this a scum claim, the timing of it becomes more suspicious as well.
Outcome? Hmm. Dunno what prs are left now. Know the ppl though sooo. Scum lean?
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
I hope they're all lynched for that
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
It's not unreasonable if they get no new information, we'd only be decrying it because we know it happens to be wrong.
The problem is how certain they are. Turmoil willing to self lynch just because it would point people to GoG and "solve the game". Nonsense. Bad play. Bleurgh.
Unless he's trying to bait a kill by acting like a cop, but scum aren't falling for that while you're pushing a townie.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Scum lynches can give a false sense of security in your reads and make you feel like scum are in a much more precarious situation than they are.
Best case for town is if they realize their mistakes and reassess the situation.That's why I'd still kill the right people if I were still alive instead of throwing curve balls that could jeopardize scum's position.
Right now it's so late in the game town should look for teams and make observations like "hey, this person doesn't fit anywhere".
Best case for town is if they realize their mistakes and reassess the situation.That's why I'd still kill the right people if I were still alive instead of throwing curve balls that could jeopardize scum's position.
Right now it's so late in the game town should look for teams and make observations like "hey, this person doesn't fit anywhere".
Imagine both surviving till lylo :D
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Post game note
To Brazil. While killing someone unexpected is fun and all the big advantage right now is town running themselves into the wall. You wanna make them continue doing that and confidently lynching townies instead of getting uncertain. Making them doubt Fran and melon looks +EV, but it's also making them think because the game is taking an unexpected turn. It'll still be unexpected when everybody flips town, but I still feel there's merit in minimizing that feeling at this time.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
You haven't been scum with Blarg before
Overwatch deciding NK and block is probably the most fun I've had in a game lol
I dunno. They do get new information and the information is that the paths they are following to find scum here are wrong. But because of that aforementioned stubbornness, doesn't seem like anyone is willing to try a new tack.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
Ty4on
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Ty4on
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hydro cannon fixed that issue
Faddy
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It is still going because Town don't know their win condition and the moderators seem to be actively withholding this info from them.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
I was feeling sad for Buffy town, then I realized I don't win with them, so I don't care.
If you're a scum tracker with no positive results, that comes out during mass claim time.
If you're a scum tracker with no positive results, that comes out during mass claim time.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Oh oooh
flatearthpandas
Round Moon Bears
Wait, is there no cult left?
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
Town has known their new win condition for several days now.
I am not a fan of doing the work for someone (in this case just following the game)
As Nin said, they've known for a while now.
As for the rest of it, we'll talk about what happened and why soon. I'm going to write up a bit of a post-mortem.
@heymonkey
I'm of the firm opinion that at this stage of the game a modkill is always the better choice.
Late replacements are bad, you don't know how to read that person, want to give it time, but there is none.
I'm of the firm opinion that at this stage of the game a modkill is always the better choice.
Late replacements are bad, you don't know how to read that person, want to give it time, but there is none.
Buffy still has several phases left and this is a player who has followed the thread. I prefer to give her a shot. I'm sure town will just continue to chase people who are basically confirmed anyway, lol.
Faddy
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I'm not saying you should be doing your work but at least clean up your mess.
Not having win conditions worked out beforehand is not good.
Giving fake win conditions is the definition of a bastard game, it should not have been done
At the very least instead of stonewalling the thread a moderator should have posted the win conditions to make sure everyone was on the same page.