Mason Thread The Union Hall

[Pedro]

Welcome to the Mason Chat!

 

[Faddy]

Hello Masons.

The Thread is open for you to converse.

 

[Fandorin]

Hellos. Who are you?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I’m a mason, of the military piece persuasion.

I really like that I drew mason. Get the thing I like best about mafia. Team play with someone I know their alignment with!

We can do this! Movement should make things too crazy.

Just post in here all the time and we will do great!

 

[Fandorin]

Hey there Zipped, glad to be your comrade!

First time playing mason. Seen it in action a lot though, so I get the general idea of talking as much as possible in here.

Do you have any specific strategies you want to try out? Last game I was in with one, Splinter and Swamped took advantage of a divided votecount and both stacked into a player without any votes to see if scum would jump into the wagon as well.

If people start scum reading any of us, the other can bait further reactions to see if any low effort scum come out.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

The best part about playing on a team is that you know whoever has reads on the other player is wrong. So you can start looking into it as “are they scum trying to shift blame” or “are they really just incorrect with their reads”.

Most dangerous day is day 1. We can’t lie too low (might think we are scum hiding in the low votes) and we can’t be too out of nowhere because those are the people who always get lynched day 1. Best bet for survival is right in the middle 25-40 post count. At least two votes including one near the day end on at the least the #2 vote getter.

If we make those then we can go crazy. I like the idea of starting a bandwagon. Especially a day 2 bandwagon to see who else jumps on

 

[Fandorin]

I agree that Day 1 is the worst day for us, especially since claiming D1 would be a huge waste, so going for the middle post range is the best bet for us.
That way we probably won’t be NK’ed too, since the longer we stay in the game without claiming the better.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Agreed. If we can talk during the game. Let’s agree before hand no votes for each other day 1

 

[Zippedpinhead]

If we Can’t talk I mean

 

[Fandorin]

Oh, of course. We should only try something like that if we can talk and coordinate it together.
If we can’t, I’ll probably stay passive towards you, unless there’s an actual need to back you up.

 

[Fandorin]

But we should breadcrumb at least a bit, though I doubt people would doubt our claim.

 

[Fandorin]

Oh yeah, what’s your token name?
I’m Thimble.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Battleship. I would have assumed you got cannoneer!

Thimble x Battleship should get us some cred. Mainly I’m not sure how we are going to breadcrumb if we can. Other than blaming freemasonry, which we could do

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Breadcrumbed battleship.

Just gotta keep on posting,

 

[Fandorin]

I think bringing up masonry would be too much on the nose haha. Maybe we can end the day phases with the same number of posts? Besides some subtle nudges here and there.

Still not much going on, wouldn't risk a read on anyone just yet with this much mechanics talk.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I say breadcrumb token only. It helps with claims later if we get some sort of card that can really mess with the game.

Mechanics talk is par for the course day one. Let’s us all pad our post counts while not actually making reads and vote. I use it regardless of the alignment I’m playing.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Know what would be hilarious? If the board switches from the UK version to the US version randomly throughout the game.

I mean movement games can get really confusing but throwing in Atlantic City vs London would be hilarious to implement.

 

[Fandorin]

That would make it such a mess. I’m still lost with these property spaces, if it changed mid game I’d just give up trying.

 

[Fandorin]

Will put a vote down in these next hours when I get the chance. Probably on someone coasting, not going for Kyan right now at least.

 

[Fandorin]

Will breadcrumb my token as well with an easy vote on empress.

Don’t know who’s getting lynched today. Are you feeling this kyan wagon? I think it kinda sprang up too suddenly.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I started it, so I think I might have to be tied to it.

That being said, it’s reading as a town lynch. I would be utterly surprised if he was anything but a normal town role.

 

[Fandorin]

Wow, didn’t expect to be so high up in the post count.

Don’t think either of us are lynch candidates today, but I hope scum can’t choose their targets and go for tokens like discussed.
That would add an randomness to the NK that should probably work for us, especially after we claim.

 

[Fandorin]

I’m guessing you don’t have strong scum reads as well right now.

Discussion was slow this phase, lots of players behind the mininum post requirement and all that.
I’m town reading Brazil and nin and leaning on kyan due to low effort the wagon started.

 

[Fandorin]

That was a mess of a Day End. Which is par for the course.

 

[Fandorin]

Zipped, why have you forsaken your partner?!

(Or are you actually blocked?)

 

[Faddy]

I will tell you if you get blocked

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I’m not blocked just busy.

I felt like I had to weigh in at day end and felt more town on Geno than sexy fish.
Day 1 is always a cluster, this one is no exception.

I think the NK will be interesting. Let me know if you get a card, and I’ll let you know the same. Who are your best guesses for scum?

 

[Fandorin]

Of course, I’ll share any cards with you.

I don’t think Geno is scum either, voted for him cause I don’t like voting outside of the wagons, especially that late into the phase.

I really believe scum can’t target players, only the tokens and so the NK will really be interesting.

I have a gut feeling that Stuart is scum, and Sophia felt too clean to me. Both are my guesses right now.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I’m thinking it is target tokens or spaces. Maybe “kill all players on train stations” or utilities, or by color.

By color would be very OP though.

 

[Fandorin]

Might be more than one. Maybe random AOE kill on a color, or something like that.

I didn’t move this round, guess someone hit me with that chance card last night.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Fandorin, what happened?

I’m about to post some stuff about your token and want to present the truth and defend it as most likely.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

That works and is what I put down

 

[Fandorin]

I’m pretty sure that’s what happened. We had at least 3 chance cards on play already, Cannon or Moneybag might have used it.

With what we know, it doesn’t seem to matter much, but it’s most likely some sort of penalty.

 

[Fandorin]

You think you know Geno’s token? I didn’t look much into the placement of the tokens this phase.


Should we try and coordinate our votes today? Would like to hear your main reads, town or scum, so we can come into an agreement.

 

[Fandorin]

Zipped, what do you think of this debacle with my vote on Geno? I didn’t think it was going to be a controversial vote.

But anyway, mild suspicion on me can be good for us. If more players jump on me later it should lead us into scum.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Especially after the posts last page on those “hunky votes” outside of the top two and how scum can hide their vote there since they know it’s town vs town.

Geno could also be scum and be baiting you

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I would quote some of those if Geno posted any of them.

 

[Fandorin]

Zipped, can you tell me your main reads so far?

 

[Fandorin]

Hmm, only DC Pat and Geno pushed for me, looks like no one else bit. That might mean they were scum baiting trying to set up a mislynch.
I actually find hard to believe that no one came scum leaning me after that big exchange.

Albeit if Geno keeps latched onto me this phase without much thought, it probably means he’s bored vanilla town. Played against scum! Geno and I doubt he would go for such a low effort approach.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

My main reads are xbro as scum. Getting a slightly scum read from Nin.

Also think that one of sweetnicole or sophia might be scum. Just how their posts are coming in strikes me the wrong way on my reread.

 

[Fandorin]

Our scum reads mostly allign then. I’m pay more attention to Nicole going forward, she just called me out on my motive for voting Xbro too.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

OM is kinda broken on my mobile right now so I hope you get this. That last post was a defense post and to start laying he groundwork for mason reveal. I figure day 4 or 5 we should probably come clean unless votes come our way. It gives us something from day 2 to post back on and say “hey look same team y’all)

 

[Faddy]

I am aware of Outer Issues and have contacted the relevant people.

Try your best please.

 

[Faddy]

If you absolutely need to send a message you may use send a PM on Resetera as long as you include me in the conversation

 

[Faddy]

Is Outer back working?

@Zippedpinhead
@Fandorin

 

[Fandorin]

Working on my end.

 

[Fandorin]

Kinda hard to keep up right now, so I didn’t see the post you’re referring to, but I agree nonetheless. If we are both alive Day 4 it would probably be a good time to claim.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

It was broken pretty hard when I last posted.

Working now though.

xbro is claiming town hider.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

That his second direct claim to hiding, if I recall correctly.

About as blatant as my recuitment begging in berserk mafia

 

[Zippedpinhead]

And we can claim that day 2 we would end up at the same post count for mason check

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Genius, pure genius

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Why did Stuart answer all my questions? That doesn’t make any sense...

 

[Fandorin]

That his second direct claim to hiding, if I recall correctly.

About as blatant as my recuitment begging in berserk mafia

I only saw this last one actually hahah. Pretty blatant.

And we actually ended with the same post count by accident? That’s great hahaha.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I only saw this last one actually hahah. Pretty blatant.

And we actually ended with the same post count by accident? That’s great hahaha.

I thought so too, so we use it as proof if we have to. It’s too crazy for them to believe otherwise

 

[Fandorin]

Why did Stuart answer all my questions? That doesn’t make any sense...

But did he actually give out real info? It’s all WIFOM at the end, so doesn’t really matter .

 

[Fandorin]

I thought so too, so we use it as proof if we have to. It’s too crazy for them to believe otherwise

We should point each other breadcumb. I think both are pretty well blend into normal posts (I didn’t pick up yours till you pointed it out lol) so we’d be pretty much confirmed as masons.

 

[Fandorin]

If Xbro survives this night phase, should we call out on him? I mean, he’ll probably have 2 confirmed townies at that point.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

We should point each other breadcumb. I think both are pretty well blend into normal posts (I didn’t pick up yours till you pointed it out lol) so we’d be pretty much confirmed as masons.

Yep! Best breadcrumbs are the ones in plain site!

 

[Fandorin]

Geno’s counter claim is still bugging me. I’ve had the idea that maybe he’s a vanilla baiting scum into going for him?

It would be a pretty good plan if they can make guaranteed kills on someone, but it could backfire hard if he has zero scans to share tomorrow

 

[Fandorin]

Zipped, I think it might be a good idea to leave a will behind in case we wake up dead, so the other can share this information.

Well, I say that but I don’t have much insight anyway. Stuart was obviously bussed, and I’m looking into those votes that came right into the middle, before his claim. DC Pat and Sophia come to mind. At the same time, Kalor tried to misdirect the lynch, even after the claim, plus there’s the voting thing which would point me to him if Xbro is really a town hider.

Overall I’m pretty confident that my bro Brazil is town. Right behind him come Sweet and Grizzly, but exactly because I’m town reading them I’ve kept an extra eye on both.

I think that’s it.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Makes sense. Even though his ability was exactly as he said, it didn’t strike me as a town ability. Rubbed me the wrong way.

That being said, I’ve already been kinda scum reading Sophia, Kalor sounds like another possibility as well.

I’m not worried about either of us today. Thimble being on jail two days in a row will likely mean scum avoids you. I’m a battleship, it’s too obvious a target.

 

[Fandorin]

Makes sense. Even though his ability was exactly as he said, it didn’t strike me as a town ability. Rubbed me the wrong way.

That being said, I’ve already been kinda scum reading Sophia, Kalor sounds like another possibility as well.

I’m not worried about either of us today. Thimble being on jail two days in a row will likely mean scum avoids you. I’m a battleship, it’s too obvious a target.

I’m not actually on jail, I think that would block our jail actually. But yeah, I don’t think I’ll be targeted. If scum can’t focus kill on Geno today, they’ll probably focus on tokens that maybe have landed on chance cards, since Geno said he had one at D1.

 

[Fandorin]

I’m not actually on jail, I think that would block our jail actually. But yeah, I don’t think I’ll be targeted. If scum can’t focus kill on Geno today, they’ll probably focus on tokens that maybe have landed on chance cards, since Geno said he had one at D1.

Block our chat* lol

 

[Fandorin]

Got no cards today as well. What about you?

Grizzly was playing really well, glad he’s out. I’m betting that someone protected Geno and that lead to his death.

 

[Fandorin]

*His being Grizzly.

 

[Fandorin]

Scum are probably on their toes right now. Losing 2 members like that surely got to them. I think we are facing 2 more and some kind of neutral.

I think rereading Grizzly might give us another lead.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I don’t think it was possible for me to get a card today with my rolls.

Grizzly dying is a huge win for town. Someone (maybe a neutral) read that way right.

Good find on that grizzly response about ketkat. Something might be there

 

[Fandorin]

That Geno wagon on D1 probably has scum. With the flips, we have Apollo and Xbro there (and me) and I’m rather scum reading both of them.

 

[Fandorin]

That Geno wagon on D1 probably has scum. With the flips, we have Apollo and Xbro there (and me) and I’m rather scum reading both of them.

If you had to vote for one of them, who would you chose?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Apollo, especially after reading brazil’s Rationale. It’s a very compelling argument

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Could Apollo be it, especially with his thin “read” on you?

And that read is thin, paper thin, thin as a chain that floats on water when it’s thrown in a pool, thin as a sheer curtain, thin as a Kleenex,

 

[Fandorin]

I thought so too. Most of what he said was already discussed today.

It’s actually so weak that I don’t see scum betting their survival on something so easy to dismantle.

I’m actually leaning more on Xbro right now, but I see myself changing that along the day.

 

[Fandorin]

Pretty sure we won’t have to claim today. There’s some mild heat on both of us, but not enough for a lynch. Which is good, maybe we can bait scum into pushing for us tomorrow.

I hope we are both alive so we can claim togetherz

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Exactly, Day 4 would make sense.

I’ll vote for xbro if I can’t get traction on Nin. I really do think I was onto something with that. But just don’t know how to frame it better.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

My “I’m really confused post” originally started with “maybe I’m a moron” instead, But self depreciation isn’t helpful in mafia.

 

[Fandorin]

Yeah, people really look down on that. In this case I don’t think it matters much though.

 

[Fandorin]

I think I buy his claim. Only scenario he wouldn’t get counterclaimed is if a neutral did it.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Are you buying the cannon kill thing from xbro?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

To be honest the whole grizzly kill was convenient. If this is the claim and no one counters it then I guess that’s it.

 

[Fandorin]

Yeah, it’s horribly convenient, but if no one counter claims it what can do?

If Xbro is claiming the neutral kill he’s pretty crazy, like I just said in the main thread. Someone can draw the CC card too and he’d be lynched in a heartbeat. We can always come back to him later.

I hope you’re not town read enough to get NK’ed tonight.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I don’t think I have ever been NK’d in any game. Maybe the first danganronpa game on the old site...

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Apollo dying gets us information and gets people to reorient their targets.

I really don’t buy it and don’t want to miss a vote

 

[Fandorin]

Damn, no NKs on you? haha

I’ve been killed last two games I played, despite being constantly soft scum read.


Not sure what the hell Brazil is implying there.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Brazil, you aren’t wrong. But I’m town this time honest!

Can’t put that in thread though. Way too on the nose

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So my trust post was another mason breadcrumb. That and the defense/side tracks to get people off you should leave us in a good spot for a claim.

Do we still want to tomorrow?

 

[Fandorin]

Ugh, that’s a shame. What a weird role after all.

I guess there really wasn’t any scum on the Geno vote D1. Hard to say who to go for right now. empressdonna I guess, but I’m still unsure on that end.

 

[Fandorin]

I think we should. Town will chase that Geno D1 lead and since me and Xbro seem to be town, it’s best to clear that up.

I think I should claim mason first and only later in the day go for the full claim. Or maybe you should go first. What do you think?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

either works. if I’m doing it it’s with all my breadcrumbs. Not claiming my token though.

 

[Fandorin]

Yeah I don’t think we should right now. We should only point out these token breadcrumbs if they, for some reason, don’t believe our claim.

I don’t think that will happen though.

 

[Fandorin]

Just had the thought that due to the supposed remaining number of scum, there might be accusations that we are fake claiming masons since they are almost never lynched if not counter claimed.

And with that in mind, I want to ask what the hell Brazil was softing at the end of the phase. We have 2 dead investigators already and no cards that allow scans, so what was he alluding to there?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Well if one of us dies (especially if it’s me) just immediately line up our breadcrumbs.

For me it would be the fandorin defense, same post count, breadcrumbing perfect trust,

 

[Zippedpinhead]

We lived!

 

[Fandorin]

Yay! Glad to be alive today.

Good push on Brazil, better to put it straight before we claim.

I’ll be mostly reading but will only post later today.

 

[Faddy]

zipped your acknowledgment of my greatness has been noted.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Get any cards?

 

[Fandorin]

No cards for me. Pretty incredible that we didn’t get even one so far.

 

[Fandorin]

I guess there might be no need for us to claim after all. I’m pleasantly surprised that there are no votes on me so far, but let’s see where suspicions land today and decide if we should claim after all.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I agree, only if pressure mounts. We need to find scum not outline targets for them...

 

[Fandorin]

I don’t follow Brazil’s clarification. If it’s only another player he town reads, why would he keep it to himself? His town reads are worth more then?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I think this is the first time in the history of this mafia group I am the post leader...

Truly a game of firsts