So you were not told of anything happening to you last night?Then no idea why, dude.
So you were not told of anything happening to you last night?Then no idea why, dude.
So you were not told of anything happening to you last night?
scumtellwhile I was on the train home.
To go along with my supposition at the start of the day. I meant what I said at the start of the day - I was willing to stand by my theory, even if I got taken out for it.Hm, I'm willing to believe Alexem here, but I want to know why you targeted @Extreme Tactician ?
You did? Was it anything? I can’t remember with all this shit flying around. There also may be a page or two here and there that I had to skip to not miss an ita period...I already shared what I know of what happened to me last night.
To go along with my supposition at the start of the day. I meant what I said at the start of the day - I was willing to stand by my theory, even if I got taken out for it.
Question If someone would try to kill you, would you be able to kill someone else back? Mechanics question on your real power role. Not the event item.
Idk about that name goin with that power. More experienced ppl will have to chime in.
You did? Was it anything? I can’t remember with all this shit flying around. There also may be a page or two here and there that I had to skip to not miss an ita period...
Good, bad, or neutral?I received an item.
Hello. I have work in the morning, so I need to get to bed. However, in case anything happens between now and when I get to the office, here's a pre-typed post.
We know that Apollo had the ability to give a fully-accurate ITA shot to any player. Given his target, we concluded that Mazre was the most likely recipient. Come the flip, though, it turned out that he was a town player who just happened to have a guaranteed hit anyway. So who did Apollo target in N1?
Let's consider his options - should he give out a fully accurate shot or nullify someone else's shot? While either is possible, the latter would have been a riskier choice - after only the first day, it would have been difficult to work out the motivations of how exactly so many players would want to us their shots - not to mention that with a wide field of targets, nerfing a townie could have denied scum the chance of a mis-hit. So it seems more likely to me that they would have boosted a player, and it stands to reason that they would want to help one of their own.
With that in mind, who could have received the boost? Not Terraforce or Mazre, as scum would have known that they weren't on their side. That just leaves EzekelRAGE and Extreme Tactician as the remaining two players who scored a successful hit. However, both of their targets were scum, so that would mean that whichever of the two was boosted used their shot to bus a team-mate. Who, then, would have been the worthier bus? Splinter, the relatively safe JOAT, or Vere, the outed role cop who was already well on track to getting lynched anyway? Unless they're being far craftier than I gave them credit for, I'd say Vere every time.
In short: Extreme Tactician, I think you have some explaining to do.
This ends the pre-typed post. I slep now.
Zzz.
That was gonna be one of my questions as well. He hasnt really done anything to be targeted imo.@Alexem why would scum try to kill you at night?
Who knows? Why kill Hecht, Crimson, Faddy, Donna or Salva overnight? Anyone's a potential target and if I'd somehow struck a nerve today, why not me?why would scum try to kill you at night?
Ok. why are you ignoring my question?Who knows? Why kill Hecht, Crimson, Faddy, Donna or Salva overnight? Anyone's a potential target and if I'd somehow struck a nerve today, why not me?
Largely, yes. More information has come to light since then, so I've eased off on that line of thinking.Well, I guess you probably don't have the same opinion now since multiple other possibilities for how Apollo used his ability have popped up.
My assumption from the role description was yes.Question If someone would try to kill you, would you be able to kill someone else back? Mechanics question on your real power role. Not the event item.
Did Blade actually claim a save or just that he protected Stuart? There's also Salva's death and Zeke's BP.i think its interesting we have two people claiming a save happened
blade saying they saved stuart and lux claiming to see a jailor saving zipped
Did you suspect you would be targeted by scum on N2? If so, why?I see I've been put on a train while I was on the train home. I suppose nothing short a full claim's going to get me out of this one, is it? Fine. Here its is.
I started as a one-shot town attention seeker. I could use my command to copy any night actions used against me to another player. I felt that as this is liable to be a game with a high rate of attrition, I should use it before losing it. As such, feeling that there may have been interest in me, I used it on N2 to copy actions to Extreme Tactician, hoping that if anyone checked me, they'd get a check on him into the bargain. As such, I went into D3 vanilla.
In the event, I could not sacrifice or I would be killed. I chose the reflect in the hopes that if scum tried to kill me overnight, it would hit them in return. That is why I did not claim my result - I didn't want scum to know what would happen if I was targeted. That's also why I knew the implications of Fandorin and Brazil's claims - they couldn't have claimed the reflect, cop check or redirect, so both had to have one of the killing moves.
I now realise that I misread Fandorin's claim. If that's a fatal mistake, so be it.
That's the truth. Take it or leave it.
Because I figured that my credibility was shot. I would have preferred to keep the details away from scum, but that goes out of the window if I'm at risk of getting mis-lynched.Can you elaborate on why you felt the need to claim? That’s my biggest gripe.
If you had not revealed your selection and the received item, what would your approach have been to the rest of the day?Because I figured that my credibility was shot. I would have preferred to keep the details away from scum, but that goes out of the window if I'm at risk of getting mis-lynched.
I don't know, really - it was more on the off-chance. After the spontaneous kills in D2, I felt it'd be better to use the role early than let it go to waste. In all honesty, I couldn't really think of many practical uses for it.Did you suspect you would be targeted by scum on N2? If so, why?
Who knows? Why kill Hecht, Crimson, Faddy, Donna or Salva overnight? Anyone's a potential target and if I'd somehow struck a nerve today, why not me?
Good, bad, or neutral?
When was the fake item giver flipped? The days run together in this game hard core with all the interruptions...
Press on and keep going as before. I wouldn't have minded drawing a scum hit in the hopes of reflecting it back on them.If you had not revealed your selection and the received item, what would your approach have been to the rest of the day?
Hmmm, idk.My assumption from the role description was yes.
And I'm not exactly the best of players. I'd sooner try to keep going for town's sake than fold and surrender to a mis-lynch, though.This is a weak justification.
I don't know, really - it was more on the off-chance. After the spontaneous kills in D2, I felt it'd be better to use the role early than let it go to waste. In all honesty, I couldn't really think of many practical uses for it.
My problem with both your claimed role/action and your excuse for the reflect is that I don't feel like your play reflects that desire to be targeted. If you wanted to be hit by scum you should be trying to bait them. I mean your role name even mentions needing to get attention. I feel like you're either lying or misplayed your role.Press on and keep going as before. I wouldn't have minded drawing a scum hit in the hopes of reflecting it back on them.
... you could test your theory tomorrow?I was willing to stand by my theory, even if I got taken out for it.
Because I didn't trust myself with a killing role to be honest - I don't claim to be particularly good with reads. I wouldn't say that surviving was my priority, I simply thought that a reflect would be more practical.@Alexem why was surviving your highest priority in the event?
Isn't the ITA shoot for more useful to garantuee that...
... you could test your theory tomorrow?
Because I didn't trust myself with a killing role to be honest - I don't claim to be particularly good with reads. I wouldn't say that surviving was my priority, I simply thought that a reflect would be more practical.
Vote: Blargonaut
So I did have something spooky happen to me last night. So don’t know if blarg actually knew that or if he was just guessing based on my comment post includes flipWe share a fear of legitimacy and somehow Blarg knows that.
Right now, I really wish it didn't.Your claimed item certainly allows you to ensure your survival until at least tomorrow, that is convenient.
My read of the situation was that they'd get a second result - one for me, one for whoever I copied to.In your roleclaim you mention a situation of a cop checking you and getting Extremes alignment but why would that actually help anyone? If the cop got a red check, the natural assumption would be that you were scum and when you bring up your role, obviously they'd think that you're just lying to get out of a check.
Vote: BlargonautI have no affiliation with the stranger
Blarg probably forgot about the game. His punctuality is infamous.Would a neutral draw attention to themselves by skipping a day and, oh, yeah being Blarg?
Seems like a dumb ploy.
I didn’t ignore you, I just can’t decide what sort of alignment would be most likely to have that role.Am I hunting ghosts? I'm 99% sure that Blargonaut is the lone stranger. Uh, people don't care?
This is basically confirmation! Blarg loves to play with selfvotes and bluffs.
Blarg probably forgot about the game. His punctuality is infamous.
And how can Blarg not be Blarg?! Yes, he'd play like this as neutral, see previous games of him.
So while voting Blarg this should be taken into consideration or at least not go unnoticed.
Did Blade actually claim a save or just that he protected Stuart?
Am I hunting ghosts? I'm 99% sure that Blargonaut is the lone stranger. Uh, people don't care?
This is basically confirmation! Blarg loves to play with selfvotes and bluffs.
Blarg probably forgot about the game. His punctuality is infamous.
And how can Blarg not be Blarg?! Yes, he'd play like this as neutral, see previous games of him.
So while voting Blarg this should be taken into consideration or at least not go unnoticed.
But where is the benefit in discussing all of this? Giving scum all the info? wtf
The Lone Stranger is obviously an additional player in the game. It's another ITA shot and vote. I assume that it will go away when Blarg dies. If it's town we lose two players at once.Maybe he is the Lone Stranger but I see no reason why that would impact the vote. To my knowledge, I don't think the Lone Stranger has done anything that's anti-town besides some weird stuff like racs vote.
Because rac seemed to be trying to work towards some sort of conclusion but it seemed to be coming from a place of only partial information? He said he thought it was interesting two saves happened and I pointed out that there’s more pieces than just that, it’s hard to draw any real conclusions due to the varying possibilities. I’m just going to assume the rest isn’t directed at me.Why are people talking about the night kills and unnecessary safe claims now? This was known very early today. Even pressing Lux today is borderline scummy in my eyes.
If Lux was scum trying to sniff out the jailor, he'd need to deliver another watch tomorrow.
If Lux was town, he could hopefully help tomorrow.
Blade's statement was equally uncalled for. But what has scum to gain with such a statement?
Kawl who is keeping tabs on roles to a worrying degree, already spelled out the possibility of an even night protection.
And I say it could've been the item Blade received in the first event.
But where is the benefit in discussing all of this? Giving scum all the info? wtf
Zipped asked for more detailswho is pushing for more info to come out?
I... dunno what to think about this. I don't know why you'd think scum would try to kill you.I see I've been put on a train while I was on the train home. I suppose nothing short a full claim's going to get me out of this one, is it? Fine. Here its is.
I started as a one-shot town attention seeker. I could use my command to copy any night actions used against me to another player. I felt that as this is liable to be a game with a high rate of attrition, I should use it before losing it. As such, feeling that there may have been interest in me, I used it on N2 to copy actions to Extreme Tactician, hoping that if anyone checked me, they'd get a check on him into the bargain. As such, I went into D3 vanilla.
In the event, I could not sacrifice or I would be killed. I chose the reflect in the hopes that if scum tried to kill me overnight, it would hit them in return. That is why I did not claim my result - I didn't want scum to know what would happen if I was targeted. That's also why I knew the implications of Fandorin and Brazil's claims - they couldn't have claimed the reflect, cop check or redirect, so both had to have one of the killing moves.
I now realise that I misread Fandorin's claim. If that's a fatal mistake, so be it.
That's the truth. Take it or leave it.
So I did have something spooky happen to me last night. So don’t know if blarg actually knew that or if he was just guessing based on my comment post includes flip
So I take it you're voting for others now or what?Lots of people poking muffin, but no votes on him?
VOTE: Muffin
It's the latter.@Alexem you only get to choose your target after an action happens to you?
or
you just link yourself to another player then w/e happens to you happens to them?
I post. I leave work. Two hours later I check in and discover just how much I've screwed up. Believe me, I've hated writing all these hand-wringing defences as much as you've probably hated reading them.The long wait for his claim is a bad sign. The convenience of having picked the power that'll ensure your survival is too. The second post he's putting on the self-flagellation a bit too thick. His reasoning isn't sound, especially considering he was not in the center of attention at all. Neither for the past nor the next night.
In what world would he not get scrutinity after everyone claimed the items and he's holding back the info? In what world would scum not count 1 and 1 together? That is flawed logic from the start.
I’m going to need to see receipts on where I did this then if it was directed at me after all.Zipped asked for more details
I remember Natiko talking about it before
You've also talked about it, although it could be only after Lux' claim.
There is probably someone else I'm forgetting.
It's the latter.
I do.@Muffin What are your thoughts now? Planning on putting down a vote?
I'm finally caught up. I feel like I need a break away from this game after that but at least we have a day end coming up. My thoughts on the game are all over the place right now but the people I feel good about of the top of my head are Brazil, Fandorin, heymonkey, Gorlak, Kawl and Ynnek.
why was your predecessor so scummy tho?I'm finally caught up. I feel like I need a break away from this game after that but at least we have a day end coming up. My thoughts on the game are all over the place right now but the people I feel good about of the top of my head are Brazil, Fandorin, heymonkey, Gorlak, Kawl and Ynnek.
yea, uhm. He is hard to read.I gotta see if I can figure out this Blarg nonsense.
So I did have something spooky happen to me last night. So don’t know if blarg actually knew that or if he was just guessing based on my comment post includes flip
It is fucking spooky to me when I'm on the same page as Gorlak, since we are pretty inherently not trusting of each other ever.
why was your predecessor so scummy tho?
I guess it was really just the one thing. Let's play shoot/vote/protect, Kalor.
With current vote its looking like a blarg lynch.I hate oatmeal.
If Alexem is not town I will eat oatmeal all day wearing a dinosaur onsie. Will try to find a matching one for baby (but no oatmeal for him lol)
You said you weren’t sure on Alex after the claim. What about now? Had anymore thoughts? What do you think about Blarg and the votes on him?I do.
VOTE: Faircure
The reads list she gave me was nicely done, but pretty much most of it is old news I've seen already from other people. I asked a bit more to see if she would say something I haven't heard yet, but not really.
Plus my concerns I voiced before that.
I'll keep my vote there, and put off ET till tomorrow when we can shoot again.
I would require a live feed here, but let's talk about, since this is the strongest stance you've taken all game. Why?I hate oatmeal.
If Alexem is not town I will eat oatmeal all day wearing a dinosaur onsie. Will try to find a matching one for baby (but no oatmeal for him lol)
I hate oatmeal.
If Alexem is not town I will eat oatmeal all day wearing a dinosaur onsie. Will try to find a matching one for baby (but no oatmeal for him lol)
I assure you fully that there's be no oatmeal on the cards for you. Not even if Wilford Brimley, Buzz Aldrin and the Quaker himself turn up at your door.I hate oatmeal.
If Alexem is not town I will eat oatmeal all day wearing a dinosaur onsie. Will try to find a matching one for baby (but no oatmeal for him lol)
Why'd you respond to her but not to me?I assure you fully that there's be no oatmeal on the cards for you. Not even if Wilford Brimley, Buzz Aldrin and the Quaker himself turn up at your door.
Sorry, I must have missed your questions when catching up earlier. I think I've said all that I really can, though. There are only so many ways that I can say that I misinterpreted Fandorin saying that he's not got the reward he wanted, all I've been trying to do is prevent a mis-lynch. If it weren't harmful to town, I'd have probably just put my hands up and walked off, but since I know lynching me would result in another town loss, all I can do is my best to account for myself.Why'd you respond to her but not to me?
None of this addresses the points I raised.Sorry, I must have missed your questions when catching up earlier. I think I've said all that I really can, though. There are only so many ways that I can say that I misinterpreted Fandorin saying that he's not got the reward he wanted, all I've been trying to do is prevent a mis-lynch. If it weren't harmful to town, I'd have probably just put my hands up and walked off, but since I know lynching me would result in another town loss, all I can do is my best to account for myself.
Because I left work. Couldn't return to the game until I got home.Why did you leave in the middle of an active conversation?
Because I wanted to keep my reflect away from scum, but knew that saying nothing about what happened would raise too manyquestions.Why did you start by saying you didn't have any powers/were essentially vanilla?
I intend to carry on as I have been. I'll be honest, right now I'd rather be doing anything than playing this given the way that I feel, but abandoning the game just because I made a stupid mistake would be unfair to everyone who kept playing. Sure I could request a replacement, but I'd just be handing FEP or whoever a poisoned chalice. All I can do is keep playing for as long as I'm allowed to. I accept my mistake, and I'll accept the consequences.What do you think the rest of us should think about the fact that if you're telling the truth, you're basically immune to everything but a lynch? Does this mean you're going to participate more since we essentially have to trust you or lynch you?
An hour until EoD and near silence. What can we make of that?
Either neutral or town. But I wonder what kind of power scum has to move things around when even a "small" train (relative to the number of players who are alive) has 10 votes.An hour until EoD and near silence. What can we make of that?
An hour until EoD and near silence. What can we make of that?