Spectator Thread Marvel Heroes Spec Thread - The Half That Hates Me
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Nah, Kawl already had a vest before you sent him one
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, like I said the other day had ITAs not hit Splinter and I so easily we may have had a better chance since neither of us were under large suspicion at the times we got hit. It is what it is though. Both sides had some poor play, both sides had some great play. ITAs are just hard to play against as scum.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I mean..it’s for the best if Fan doesn’t shoot him lol
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
As opposed to yelling at the other players from inside Muffin and no one being able to hear you. T_T
This sounds wrong out of contex.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
It was wrong in context too.
Ugh, the suspense is killing me.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Hmm. Think I would risk entering no night kill. Hoping Oreo doesn’t target me. Play up the no night kill as Oreo saving town. Lynch who Oreo delayed. When they flip to Oreo lynch the next day. Citing we need to prove his role at this point since we lynched town based on his claim last phase. Also bring up delaying a confirmed vest giver in blarg and causing deaths of me and melon.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
I wish I could forget day 1 this easily
How can Fandorin win this?
Kawl - confirmed (2(?) bp)
Ynnek - confirmed
Brazil - townread
rac - probably town role
Lux - probably town role
oreo - scum read bc delay is sooo suspicious
Polter - vanilla, unable to clear himself
@EzekelRAGE - Oreo can clear someone out of 5 people? What were his other targets?
@Sorian is Oreo even capable of delaying tonight? Does the delay apply to day actions as well?
Oreo has 20% chance to hit scum. Hitting Fan is game over. Hitting anyone else and no kill casts suspicion. Day kill and Mislynch? -> next day no kill is confirmed. 6 people alive N7, decide to no kill again? Day kill and Mislynch Oreo? 4 people alive N8. Night and day kill, Fandorin wins.
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Killing at night and killing Oreo or leaving him alive and gamble:
D7 - 7 people, day kill, mislynch = 5people
D8 would be final 3 with Kawl alive.
In both scenarios Fandorin needs two mislynches. In the latter he'd need to survive final 3 with a confirmed town alive. welp. 80% of not being targeted by Oreo sounds better than 50% lylo survival to me.
Opting to no kill at night really looks attractive assuming you are willing to commit to get Oreo's target and later Oreo lynched.
Ynnek - confirmed
Brazil - townread
rac - probably town role
Lux - probably town role
oreo - scum read bc delay is sooo suspicious
Polter - vanilla, unable to clear himself
@EzekelRAGE - Oreo can clear someone out of 5 people? What were his other targets?
n1: nobody
n2: nobody
n3: Blarg
n4: nobody
n5: Zubz
n2: nobody
n3: Blarg
n4: nobody
n5: Zubz
Oreo has 20% chance to hit scum. Hitting Fan is game over. Hitting anyone else and no kill casts suspicion. Day kill and Mislynch? -> next day no kill is confirmed. 6 people alive N7, decide to no kill again? Day kill and Mislynch Oreo? 4 people alive N8. Night and day kill, Fandorin wins.
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Killing at night and killing Oreo or leaving him alive and gamble:
D7 - 7 people, day kill, mislynch = 5people
D8 would be final 3 with Kawl alive.
In both scenarios Fandorin needs two mislynches. In the latter he'd need to survive final 3 with a confirmed town alive. welp. 80% of not being targeted by Oreo sounds better than 50% lylo survival to me.
Opting to no kill at night really looks attractive assuming you are willing to commit to get Oreo's target and later Oreo lynched.
I dunno. I mean, if he was bussing, why was he so intent on killing me for so long?
Nobody will remember that,
that was a completely different phase of the game,
you were always going to be lynched, so bus was mandatory,
yaddayadda ... *handwave arguments away*
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
@Gorlak yea Oreo using his power on blarg really sets him up to be lynched. So no kill tonight. Lynch Oreo target. And daykill ynn.
Thinking about it. I would lynch Oreo first. Confirm his role. Then lynch who he delayed the next day phase. I would also claim to have lost my bp the following day phase as well. Since there would Need to be two deaths in the next night phase to further prove Oreos delay power.
N6 - no kill
D7 - lynch Oreo, kill lux
N7 - kill ynn
D8 - there would be a minimum of two bodies expected if Oreo delaying worked. So claim vanilla and that you lost your bp item from the event you won. Lynch Oreo target from previous night. Daykill brazil since he served his purpose of getting Oreo lynched.
Thinking about it. I would lynch Oreo first. Confirm his role. Then lynch who he delayed the next day phase. I would also claim to have lost my bp the following day phase as well. Since there would Need to be two deaths in the next night phase to further prove Oreos delay power.
N6 - no kill
D7 - lynch Oreo, kill lux
N7 - kill ynn
D8 - there would be a minimum of two bodies expected if Oreo delaying worked. So claim vanilla and that you lost your bp item from the event you won. Lynch Oreo target from previous night. Daykill brazil since he served his purpose of getting Oreo lynched.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Yea. Oreo needs to be lynched d7. Use Brazil to do it.
That's why you commit to two no kill nights. Beginning of D8, everyone will realize there was no delay but a no kill. And wifom hell begins for everyone. It doesn't matter who Oreo targets the second night.
Man, if this somehow doesn't end before my birthday I'll be impressed.
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
So hydrocannon.
Fandorin could also drag this game out and shoot at Kawl multiple times, how BP is he right now? Once or twice? edit: 2x BP it seems
risk averse: 8 people
shoot oreo, daykill ynnek / mislynch polter
shoot kawl, daykill kawl / mislynch lux/rac/brazil somehow?
shoot kawl, daykill whoever - win
this would decide the game at final 5 with kawl alive and four candidates. that actually looks better than no kill, right?
risk averse: 8 people
shoot oreo, daykill ynnek / mislynch polter
shoot kawl, daykill kawl / mislynch lux/rac/brazil somehow?
shoot kawl, daykill whoever - win
this would decide the game at final 5 with kawl alive and four candidates. that actually looks better than no kill, right?
but fandorin doesn't know about all the bp on kawl, and it actually doesn't matter. as long as he goes into D8 with 5 people alive and they mislynch, he has won.
So shoot oreo, daykill ynnek - mislynch polter
and the stage is ready for D8, no extra kills needed - just one more mislynch and he can kill the rest N8/D9.
he can kill someone unfavourable during N7, wifom and stuff, but he shouldn't force a 3 way tie with kawl as the decider
Is anyone able to follow me?
So shoot oreo, daykill ynnek - mislynch polter
and the stage is ready for D8, no extra kills needed - just one more mislynch and he can kill the rest N8/D9.
he can kill someone unfavourable during N7, wifom and stuff, but he shouldn't force a 3 way tie with kawl as the decider
Is anyone able to follow me?
Oreo/Ynnek as N6/D7 targets and everything is done.
He eliminates the last risk to get exposed and it comes down to the last two lynches. Polter seems a given, the last one will be the hardest. Between Lux/rac/Brazil and Fandorin, I can see them opting for the vanillas, but town could be swerved towards the others. Anyway Brazilian Brother Standoff needs to be on the menu!
He eliminates the last risk to get exposed and it comes down to the last two lynches. Polter seems a given, the last one will be the hardest. Between Lux/rac/Brazil and Fandorin, I can see them opting for the vanillas, but town could be swerved towards the others. Anyway Brazilian Brother Standoff needs to be on the menu!
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
going for a kill confirms whoever Oreo delays as town. Also I think a lynch on Oreo would be better than shooting him.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Maybe I’m overcomplicating things?
If Fandorin is not hit, no one will know who got delayed [if you kill oreo tonight]
If Fandorin is hit, it's game over.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
If Oreo doesn’t target fan and there is no kill. Suspicion automatically falls on who he did target. Which causes a mislynch. Which sets up Oreo lynch for next day.
Kill whoever you want the next night. At start of next day phase, if you see no kill, immediately send command to kill Oreo since you know he targeted you and you don’t want him to reveal that.
If he's clearing Polter it's a zero sum game. But it could potentially be beneficial yes
There is a safe phase in which Fan can't daykill. This plan is what Geno meant, risking to be hit by Oreo twice.
Question is after the first mislynch, do they believe Oreo delayed whoever and happened to hit scum this time? Or do they go for Oreo.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
O, forgot about that. In that case no kill, then push for Oreo lynch. He flips then then lynch who he targeted yesterday.
But that wouldn't do anything. No kill + lynching Oreo does not guarantee getting his target lynched, because everyone sees it was a no kill.
Kalor
Kay-lor? Kah-lor?
If I'm going off the information that I had at the time. I'd shoot Kawl to remove his vest. Then for the day shot I'd target Kawl again and find out that it didn't work again. Focus on Oreo for the lynch and then shoot Brazil the next night.
With what I know now, I'd shoot Lux since he's basically confirmed and can corroborate actions. For the day shot I'd shoot Kawl and still lynch Oreo. Ynnek is confirmed but he isn't worth the shot because he's barely a presence
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
In that case. Kill someone tonight. Lynch oreo. Kill who he targeted n6.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Fan is really wasting the opportunity to talk to himself in scum chat.
I usually use that time to curse the game runner for fucking me over.
If it were me, I'd post my daily prayers to show how much I'd want to win.
I hate and blame myself
Fan is all alone?
Town pls win.
Town pls win.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
You? Never.
melonrabbit
The only good kind of melon
Why wait? I start that talk D0.
Can confirm
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Sophia was very polite in the monopoly Mafia chat.
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
Dude, don't say such stuff lol, you're tempting fate
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Yeah, I don't think he has chances either.
That seems weak.
Is he at least day killing Brazil (if he's even mentioned that in the chat)? (unless Brazil tries to force a turbo on Oreo first thing haha)
Kalor
Kay-lor? Kah-lor?
Hasn't mentioned it yet. He sent in the command to shoot Kawl but then changed his mind since he has the vest and the event item.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
I guess he could try to make a case for Brazil the scum later (argue that making him lose the vest via kalor shooting was intentional, since they knew it wouldn't kill him, also that push for oreo from braz)
Hey, I just gave him a vest, blame Stuart and Blarg for the OP.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
Daredevil didn't see that coming.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I stand by this post
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
What if fandorin day shoots him
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
- rac replaced Ferg (he/him; EDT) NEW? - nearly impossible to be sold as scum.
- Ynnek (he/him; EST) - green
- Brazil replaced Fireblend (he/him; GMT-6) - neqrly impossible to be sold as scum
- Poltergust (he/him; EST) - moderately difficult to be sold scum
- oreomunsta (he/him; UTC-6) - die die die
- Kawl (he/him; CDT) - green
Verelios
Were-elios
Geez, that's a landmine of green
for future kawl: hope your tournament went well :D
If Town lynched Ynnek then I hope they lose.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Shoot as in Fandorin day kills.
I think Brazil is the only one who would defend against a Fandorin lynch out of everyone left alive. Fandorin seems like they would be Brazil's last choice.
Fandorin can use their powers to get rid of as many non-Kawl people as possible, save Brazil for last and it'd be a win. He just needs to go after confirmed players, leave Polter/Oreo for lynch targets.
Fandorin can use their powers to get rid of as many non-Kawl people as possible, save Brazil for last and it'd be a win. He just needs to go after confirmed players, leave Polter/Oreo for lynch targets.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Final 3 can't be Kawl-Fandorin-Brazil though.
How not?