Spectator Thread GoT and TMBG Spectator Thread

If by tomorrow you mean D7, you're correct. We're at 16 alive right now. If the lovers die, we're at 14. Mislynch 13, Nk 12. So it would be mylo D7 not D6?

They've got 2 lynches left, which is kinda incredible considering no scum was caught yet. Scum looks a bit low on numbers (maybe a bit early to tell).

Which brings me to @Girlofgotham any idea why you only got one kill through? Did you target Faddy N3 as well?
I got no kills whatsoever. On N1 melon had jailed Zeke. On N2 I went for CeeCee and I was jailed. On N3 I took the huff and did nothing (I was also afraid I would be tracked). On N4 I went for Apollo and nothing happened.

I would only get a kill if they were a PR
 
My win condition was to steal 3 powers and use them or survive until the end. I quickly learned I wouldn’t manage the stealing powers thing so I just tried to pick of scum so I could try to claim Town vig.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Lol they actually lynched gog over Blarg

Think Monkey overplayed her hand here, hopefully she doesn't get away with it.

Meatwad also looking pretty exposed. Kits should be too but who knows with the replacement.

It's still a long shot, but this scum team could fall like dominoes. Monkey being pinned for protecting Blarg will be key, but I think town could be distracted by the late votes for gog (probably Apollo)
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
The only defense for Monkey is that scum would "never" protect their teammate so blatantly, and I worry town might fall for it. Faddy was already talking about scum being more willing to bus at this point.

OTOH she was arguing that a nin lynch would give more info than Blarg, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
The only defense for Monkey is that scum would "never" protect their teammate so blatantly, and I worry town might fall for it. Faddy was already talking about scum being more willing to bus at this point.

OTOH she was arguing that a nin lynch would give more info than Blarg, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

tbh she was a bit all over the place yesterday because she kept contradicting everyone but I’d convinced myself she was Town so even though I went “why is she doing that” on about 3 of her posts, I was so convinced that I didn’t even stop to think about it. The “can neutrals win if town win” question has me kicking myself now
 

cabot

Why.
I suspect scum had the ability to do 2 nks and used it.

It's a bit more messy otherwise, and weird if it was a town kill.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If by tomorrow you mean D7, you're correct. We're at 16 alive right now. If the lovers die, we're at 14. Mislynch 13, Nk 12. So it would be mylo D7 not D6?

They've got 2 lynches left, which is kinda incredible considering no scum was caught yet. Scum looks a bit low on numbers (maybe a bit early to tell).

Which brings me to @Girlofgotham any idea why you only got one kill through? Did you target Faddy N3 as well?
I think this has gone fairly poorly for scum as far as night actions go. It easily could’ve turned out differently had they won the revive, had they not had two nights of no players being removed, etc. Today will likely result in 2-3 deaths. On the the other hand scum 100% will not make it to Day 7 unscathed.

I still have no idea what happened N1. I don’t know where the other 2 kills (since melon and I both targeted Zeke) came from
Scum have a JOAT and one of the powers was a bonus kill one night.

What was the riddle for the many faced god?
The person that casts the most votes for town-aligned player (and wasn’t you) received the totally good and not bad at all reward.

lol
 

cabot

Why.
Well you had more information than everyone else and didn't claim.


So yeah, they probably shouldn't have listened
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
As a humble townie, I don't particularly care where the extra kills are coming from. At least until we have some claimed actions to consider.
 

cabot

Why.
Just caught up with the end posts of TMBG.

Would disagree with ninja / no cop being bastard.

It's cheeky, but not bastard. You're implying another role exists, but it's not definite.
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
Balance is such a bollocks argument. Just because one exists doesn't mean another has to. Otherwise it's too easy to figure out the non vanilla roles based on a couple flips.
 

Franconp

Frank
I just checked the scum chat and Rac seems to be the gossip? If that's so, Why the fuck isn't TWE sharing that in the scum chat? Why is he being cryptic?

Is he a mole or something? Because this is crazy now.
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
Just caught up with the end posts of TMBG.

Would disagree with ninja / no cop being bastard.

It's cheeky, but not bastard. You're implying another role exists, but it's not definite.
as a point of reference for everyone, cabot reviewed my clusterfuck of a game and okayed all of my stupid ass bullshit, which means all complaints should and ought to be directed at him
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
When are we going to get a game with nothing but the counter roles to roles that don't exist in the game/roles that check for things that don't exist and everything is essentially a very confusing vanilla game?
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
When are we going to get a game with nothing but the counter roles to roles that don't exist in the game/roles that check for things that don't exist and everything is essentially a very confusing vanilla game?
this sounds super duper dumb
this is my next Mafia game to run
 

Franconp

Frank
as a point of reference for everyone, cabot reviewed my clusterfuck of a game and okayed all of my stupid ass bullshit, which means all complaints should and ought to be directed at him

You should have said that in the signup thread.

Cabot greenlighted Quarentine.
 

Franconp

Frank
Natiko can I replace Indi.

I swear that I won't share the setup, I just want to see how much more we can piss Faddy and Monkey off.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Natiko can I replace Indi.

I swear that I won't share the setup, I just want to see how much more we can piss Faddy and Monkey off.
The last thing I need is more people yelling at each other D:
 

cabot

Why.
as a point of reference for everyone, cabot reviewed my clusterfuck of a game and okayed all of my stupid ass bullshit, which means all complaints should and ought to be directed at him

Hey, Brexit Mafia had a Miller in it, and the unique cop in that game had no way of actually getting the Miller result back. I've done this exactly.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Scum is so close to winning GOT, but I’m pretty sure things are about to take a bad turn for them.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Scum is so close to winning GOT, but I’m pretty sure things are about to take a bad turn for them.
them trying to protect blarg may be their downfall.

Side note- in terms of activity (i don’t mean post count) kits/blarg seemed even. I imagine blarg has a more powerful role than kits? Scum or maybe just monkey seemed to want to throw kits under the bus instead of blarg
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
them trying to protect blarg may be their downfall.

Side note- in terms of activity (i don’t mean post count) kits/blarg seemed even. I imagine blarg has a more powerful role than kits? Scum or maybe just monkey seemed to want to throw kits under the bus instead of blarg
Blarg has an extra kill tonight due to a religion reward. You’ll see why they saved him shortly.. lol
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
the thing is, is town able to focus enough to get the vote correctly? or will they scatter and allow the scum to control the game till the end.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
the thing is, is town able to focus enough to get the vote correctly? or will they scatter and allow the scum to control the game till the end.
Mafia will 100% lose a player before D7. They’ve all but committed to bus said player in hopes it can get them some firm cred back in the meantime. I don’t think it will work though and expect them to see at least two straight mafia lynches. Maybe three.
 
Hey, Brexit Mafia had a Miller in it, and the unique cop in that game had no way of actually getting the Miller result back. I've done this exactly.
Yes, I remember this specific point getting me lynched because I found it completely illogical for there to be a Miller without it being relevant in any way.

STOP RUINING THINGS FOR ME, CABOT
YOU WON'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yes, I remember this specific point getting me lynched because I found it completely illogical for there to be a Miller without it being relevant in any way.

STOP RUINING THINGS FOR ME, CABOT
YOU WON'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
Spoiler Alert:
He will.
 

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Uhhh, so the lovers were Jamie and Cersei? I thought, as stated at the beginning, flavor and character names were not indicative of roles and alignments?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Uhhh, so the lovers were Jamie and Cersei? I thought, as stated at the beginning, flavor and character names were not indicative of roles and alignments?
They generally aren’t. Cersei and Jamie as lovers was a fun exception, but still not alignment indicative as both were on town’s side. Arya’s role was also associated with her character, but again not really alignment. Those three were the only exceptions whatsoever.
 

dragon mom

Plays the Game of Chairs
They did try and kill him. Is there a list of who is who somewhere?

Faddy is the deflector
Kopite is VT
FEP is a town override (has the ability to choose the lynch of the day one time)
Monkey is a jack of all trades scum
Meatwad is a night kill immune scum
Zook/ Include is a scum goon
Blarg is a scum roleblocker
ET / Kits is a scum goon
GP is the doctor
Ketkat is the bodyguard (she guarded you but not stan last night...alas
Fantomas is the religion hypnotist

If I missed anyone let me know
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Faddy is the deflector
Kopite is VT
FEP is a town override (has the ability to choose the lynch of the day one time)
Monkey is a jack of all trades scum
Meatwad is a night kill immune scum
Zook/ Include is a scum goon
Blarg is a scum roleblocker
ET / Kits is a scum goon
GP is the doctor
Ketkat is the bodyguard (she guarded you but not stan last night...alas
Fantomas is the religion hypnotist

If I missed anyone let me know
nin and Trigger are both VT as well. That should be everyone left.
 
Faddy is the deflector
Kopite is VT
FEP is a town override (has the ability to choose the lynch of the day one time)
Monkey is a jack of all trades scum
Meatwad is a night kill immune scum
Zook/ Include is a scum goon
Blarg is a scum roleblocker
ET / Kits is a scum goon
GP is the doctor
Ketkat is the bodyguard (she guarded you but not stan last night...alas
Fantomas is the religion hypnotist

If I missed anyone let me know
I figured GP lied from what little I read of yesterday. I shoulda trusted my gut on Kits and jumped there on D1, I was too worried about getting 2 town killed on D2 if she flipped town due to my argument with her over Blarg. At least I was right about him acting as a smokescreen that day. I think I coulda figured those out, except for Monkey.

I couldn't blame Ket for guarding me, I was the obvious choice there. I'd have done the same.

Ok, so this game is basically mods vs trolls. I get it now.

I'm not sure if town has enough juice to win this thing. I think they can get all but one if I'm being honest.
 

dragon mom

Plays the Game of Chairs
I figured GP lied from what little I read of yesterday. I shoulda trusted my gut on Kits and jumped there on D1, I was too worried about getting 2 town killed on D2 if she flipped town due to my argument with her over Blarg. At least I was right about him acting as a smokescreen that day. I think I coulda figured those out, except for Monkey.

I couldn't blame Ket for guarding me, I was the obvious choice there. I'd have done the same.

Ok, so this game is basically mods vs trolls. I get it now.

I'm not sure if town has enough juice to win this thing. I think they can get all but one if I'm being honest.

You guys died because Ket guarded you and not Stan; Stan was the mafia target last night.

Monkey will be the hard catch, but I think they can get the other three. Maybe not Include. But definitely Blarg, ET, and Meatwad.
 
You guys died because Ket guarded you and not Stan; Stan was the mafia target last night.

Monkey will be the hard catch, but I think they can get the other three. Maybe not Include. But definitely Blarg, ET, and Meatwad.
I know, that's what I'm saying.

I think they can get everyone but Monkey. After Blarg goes down it should be a short line to Kits(ET).
 

Stantastic

Our Badminton Stanpion
Sorry you had a bad time Stan :(
oh no this was actually pretty fun in retrospect, if excessively stressful for a particular extended time.

if i wanted smart mafia play i would have left this community a long time ago.

figuring out earnest bad play from legit nefariousness is like the one thing im good at, and this game was a goldmine for it.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
oh no this was actually pretty fun in retrospect, if excessively stressful for a particular extended time.

if i wanted smart mafia play i would have left this community a long time ago.

figuring out earnest bad play from legit nefariousness is like the one thing im good at, and this game was a goldmine for it.
Well..at least you did manage to talk them out of lynching B-dubs lol

Ketkat has been trying to protect the two of you since the claim as well. Just lost out on the coin toss.
 

Stantastic

Our Badminton Stanpion
Well..at least you did manage to talk them out of lynching B-dubs lol

Ketkat has been trying to protect the two of you since the claim as well. Just lost out on the coin toss.
i didnt talk them out of shit, i had to commit delayed murder-suicide and we still lynched town anyway.
 

Stantastic

Our Badminton Stanpion
oh, bringing things back a little to the discussion about lynching melon after the fake red-check.

i have and always will think any in-game actions taken for the sake of policing the communities meta rather than actually trying to win the game is ridiculous.
people make bad decisions, always, every game. its human nature, every bad idea looks like a good one until its blown up in your face.
lynching people to try and stop it in the future is completely futile, lazy, and really goddamn boring.
 

cabot

Why.
I see people haven't bothered reading gogs role pm or they just assume things that aren't good assumptions.
 
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cabot

Why.
Yes, I remember this specific point getting me lynched because I found it completely illogical for there to be a Miller without it being relevant in any way.

STOP RUINING THINGS FOR ME, CABOT
YOU WON'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

Brexit 2 will floor you.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
i didnt talk them out of shit, i had to commit delayed murder-suicide and we still lynched town anyway.
I mean, where you expecting to survive until lylo anyway? You were easily the least suspected player in the game, it was only a matter of time until scum targeted you.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
When are we going to get a game with nothing but the counter roles to roles that don't exist in the game/roles that check for things that don't exist and everything is essentially a very confusing vanilla game?
Have you ever visited any volcanic islands?
 
That was it. Scum won. No chance town will turn this around.

So who won the red god price @Natiko @dragon mom ? Should've been blarg. And he can active this price, an extra kill, tonight?

I see people haven't bothered reading gogs role pm or they just assume things that aren't good assumptions.
The missing nk talk? I think her role pm is ambiguous in that regard. Nothing will happen could refer to no power will be copied or no kill will happen.
 

cabot

Why.
That include post is weird if you're town surely?


Gog dying isn't really helping the scenario, town are in a desperately bad situation.
 

Stantastic

Our Badminton Stanpion
I mean, where you expecting to survive until lylo anyway? You were easily the least suspected player in the game, it was only a matter of time until scum targeted you.
considering thats what happens in almost every other game, yes actually.
I remember one of YnnnYs old info-graph things actually had me as the most surviverist (totally a word) members of this community.
 

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
If town goes back and looks at who wanted to lynch who between gog and blarg last day phase, they can win.
 

cabot

Why.
considering thats what happens in almost every other game, yes actually.
I remember one of YnnnYs old info-graph things actually had me as the most surviverist (totally a word) members of this community.


Lovers are too useful to scum as a kill. No surviving today
 

cabot

Why.
Town is gubbed.

Tmbg is more open, though not sure if those left at endgame will be able to find the scum
 

Stantastic

Our Badminton Stanpion
Lovers are too useful to scum as a kill. No surviving today
yeah, i was talking about if we hadnt needed to claim.

and yes i know we would have died eventually just for probabilities sake.

point is im frustrated by everything about how this game went and dont know how to express it in any kind of healthy manner!
 
At this point Geno is basically screaming “I’m scum! Lynch me!”. Even if he gets people on the Vere train today I cannot believe him surviving past the next Day phase.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
oh, bringing things back a little to the discussion about lynching melon after the fake red-check.

i have and always will think any in-game actions taken for the sake of policing the communities meta rather than actually trying to win the game is ridiculous.
people make bad decisions, always, every game. its human nature, every bad idea looks like a good one until its blown up in your face.
lynching people to try and stop it in the future is completely futile, lazy, and really goddamn boring.
I still don’t think it’s worth it. Someone lies to that extent? They need to go, because it won’t always be a town player doing that. Town should have nothing to gain by lying to that extreme and being coy, even after the fact. Look at Blarg.

Have you ever visited any volcanic islands?
I wish. Though everyone that actually played in it seems traumatized so maybe it’s best I haven’t lol

That was it. Scum won. No chance town will turn this around.

So who won the red god price @Natiko @dragon mom ? Should've been blarg. And he can active this price, an extra kill, tonight?


The missing nk talk? I think her role pm is ambiguous in that regard. Nothing will happen could refer to no power will be copied or no kill will happen.
He did, but he already used it last night. I think scum will lose like three members. It’s the last two that seem more far fetched.
 

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Faddy is gonna die soon, he's almost completely figured out the scum team
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
It does seem to be between Geno, AB, and Tearable, and AB seems cleaner than the other two.

But as usual there's probably one scum who is flying completely under the radar.

I wonder if this is a workable strategy. All the other scum make one of them look as townie as possible to get them the victory as the last scum.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Faddy, feps, and Fanto finally forge a... falliance.

And with Monkey finally being pushed out of the town circle. All that "protect: Monkey" earlier in the phase had me worried.

Credit where it's due, Faddy has solved this game. He just needs to convince town to follow the lynch order he listed.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Faddy, feps, and Fanto finally forge a... falliance.

And with Monkey finally being pushed out of the town circle. All that "protect: Monkey" earlier in the phase had me worried.

Credit where it's due, Faddy has solved this game. He just needs to convince town to follow the lynch order he listed.
Scum feel pretty confident they can force the one additional mislynch they need to win.

I'm not sure though now that Faddy has pointed out Include again. If he wants to win this he needs to rally more people to his side on Monkey and especially Include, because I don't think many suspect her currently. Mafia team is discussing doing the smart thing and leaving Monkey as the lone "town leader". It could have been tempting to try and final three coin flip it with FEP and Monkey, but uh...that would have ended very poorly for them.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Arguing that the game has shown alignment is tied to flavor the day after Cersei flips town lol
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
I would be frustrated if I was Vere. Reveal yourself as the tracker with a red check and then have it backfire and spend the next few days defending yourself.

If you try everytime you will be right, eventually.

I'd like to think your posts were suspicious enough without my inherent biases coming into play.
 
TWE is now trying to go after Pog (well whoever replaced pog using Pogs previous posts). As someone who had TWE as firmly Town, this would make me immediately suspicions of him.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
I think flavors are somewhat alignment indicative, as we've seen so far with the possible exception of Exodus being Melisandre's shade, but I guess you could explain that away since there's almost no characters (none?) with no religion.

So I think Mafia flavor would probably be:
- Ramsay Snow
- Tywin Lanniester
- Lord Frey
- Maybe Stannis
- Maybe Melisandre
- Maybe Roose

You've claimed Drowned God and essentially claimed Asha/Yara Greyjoy, correct?
Guys, guys, please.

Sometimes you just have to give scum space to make a mistake. There's no prizes for being right here.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Guys, guys, please.

Sometimes you just have to give scum space to make a mistake. There's no prizes for being right here.
The line of thinking won't pan out though. Pretty sure town has more "bad" characters left alive than mafia still. Especially if you count that one of the scum players is converted town anyways.
 

Dr. Worm

Has a PHD in Worms
I could've just made my whole game TMBG characters and had the mafia team be something like Some Crazy Bastard/Reprehensible/Your Racist Friend/The Shadow Government/Shape Shifter
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
The line of thinking won't pan out though. Pretty sure town has more "bad" characters left alive than mafia still. Especially if you count that one of the scum players is converted town anyways.
Sure, but in general
 
I would be frustrated if I was Vere. Reveal yourself as the tracker with a red check and then have it backfire and spend the next few days defending yourself.

That reminds me!

Fran or a mod, can anyone spoiler exactly what happened night one that led to the redcheck? I really want to know who did what to whom
 
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