Spectator Thread Bunker 4352's Surveillance Room

[Stantastic]

You know what i am annoyed by.

NOBODY JOINED MY GAME OF PROTECT CHEEK KILL!

joyless asses

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So what did I miss?

 

[Stantastic]

So what did I miss?

Lemmings running off a cliff.

 

[B-dubs]

Lemmings running off a cliff.

How is that new?

 

[Verelios]

It seems like a certain someone in Scum Chat had the same reaction as me to this EoD.

Spoiler

I forgive you king.

We need to team up again. We make a solid pair when we aren't scum reading each other.

Man, I almost want there to be a bomb for Polter's sake. All that extra work on this mad theory.

Ride and die Doctor

 

[Splinter]

I'll defend town a little here. We're 6 (7?) days in and there is zero reason to be townreading Stan.

 

[Franconp]

Yes, but there were also plenty of reasons to scum read Nin and they decided to forget about them and just lynch the unknown.

 

[Fanto]

Scum Scheming:

Spoiler

Malus wants to use the fake Coroner claim and say he checked Vere. He's not sure what he's going to pretend Vere's role was though.

He asked Nin if he would want to "track" him to Vere tonight. Nin agreed.

Still no kill choice yet.

 

[Yuta]

Nvm looked up the role

 

[Fanto]

Verelios is dead :-?

Spoiler

The idea is that Malus will Claim he targeted Verelios to learn his role, and then provide a fake one.

In some games Coroners can investigate dead players to determine some clue as to who killed them.

We'll see how it goes if he wants to try pulling that off. I fear that Town might smell something funky from it, but who knows.

 

[Fanto]

Well damn lol, either way, the explanation for the scheme is in the spoiler tag above.

 

[Fanto]

Scum Night Actions:

Spoiler

Kill: DCPat

Track: Lone_Prodigy

 

[Franconp]

Fireblend didn't used his item.

The dream is still alive.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Scum Night Actions:

Spoiler

Kill: DCPat

Track: Lone_Prodigy

Oh, that's weird.

Spoiler

They could of won the game today if DC was still on his "Tunnel LP" shit. I guess Polter could still make a weird move here though.

 

[Stuart444]

Scum Night Actions:

Spoiler

Kill: DCPat

Track: Lone_Prodigy

This doesn't make sense to me. This is a weird kill.

 

[Fanto]

Oh, that's weird.

Spoiler

They could of won the game today if DC was still on his "Tunnel LP" shit. I guess Polter could still make a weird move here though.

This doesn't make sense to me. This is a weird kill.

Spoiler

Basically what happened was Ketkat suggested Fire or Polter. Then Malus floated out DCPat. No one responded. Malus came back hours later and submitted the kill on DCPat. Then Nin said he was cool with it.

So yeah, that's how it was decided...

 

[Chuggernaut]

Spoiler

Basically what happened was Ketkat suggested Fire or Polter. Then Malus floated out DCPat. No one responded. Malus came back hours later and submitted the kill on DCPat. Then Nin said he was cool with it.

So yeah, that's how it was decided...

Uhhhhh

 

[Stuart444]

So are we officially in mylo? They can't have anymore mislynches AND LP needs to not get his win condition?

 

[Fanto]

So are we officially in mylo? They can't have anymore mislynches AND LP needs to not get his win condition?

I believe so yeah. Here's what the remaining player list looks like with alignments:

Spoiler

Fireblend
Poltergust
Coolespot
Lone_Prodigy
malus
Nin
Ketkat

If anyone on Town gets lynched, then Scum outnumber Town. If LP gets lynched, then Scum shoots Town at night and also outnumber Town.

 

[Franconp]

So are we officially in mylo? They can't have anymore mislynches AND LP needs to not get his win condition?

It's Lylo. They can't choose No Lynch. If they don't lynch scum they lose.

And even if they lynch scum they could lose. If LP gets his win condition they lose even if they hit scum.

 

[Fanto]

Oof, yeah. It really all comes down to whether or not LP gets his win condition. If he gets to exit the game with his win after a Scum lynch, then it would be tied 2 Scum and 2 Town left.

 

[Stuart444]

tbf LP deserves it the most.

 

[B-dubs]

Scum Night Actions:

Spoiler

Kill: DCPat

Track: Lone_Prodigy

This is actually smart. I can see how this might wind up winning them the game.

 

[Franconp]

Malus want to start the day with a vote.

That is really scummy in Lylo/Mylo. You don't put a vote until everyone agrees.

 

[Fanto]

This is actually smart. I can see how this might wind up winning them the game.

We'll see, I'm going to be hella nervous this whole day phase lol I don't want to get ahead of myself though, there are so many scenarios here still.

 

[Stuart444]

This is actually smart. I can see how this might wind up winning them the game.

I can't see any reason why killing DCPat would be smart tbh.

 

[Franconp]

LP asked to send the item to Coolest but later changed his mind and decided to send it to DCPat. So he keeps the item.

LP has been really unlucky with his targets.

 

[Stuart444]

LP asked to send the item to Coolest but later changed his mind and decided to send it to DCPat. So he keeps the item.

LP has been really unlucky with his targets.

Ouch.

 

[Fanto]

Oh wow, so he can't win tonight then because he still needs to give out another item? Unlucky.

So we reallllllly need a mislynch or an LP lynch for Scum to win today.

 

[Franconp]

The only way that scum could lose is if they decide to NK LP.

 

[Fanto]

Hmm, I'm not sure if they will, they seem to think he can get lynched still.

 

[Stantastic]

10 seconds into the day and im already confused

 

[Fanto]

So, he didn't actually get that result, right?

 

[Franconp]

No, he is just giving a false red check.

 

[Stuart444]

LOL Coolest

 

[Fanto]

Well I guess we'll see how this goes.

 

[Stantastic]

its what i keep saying,
you cant stop people doing this.

 

[Stuart444]

It means nothing really but assuming CS doesn't give up the charade today, it's about how will people react to the result.

 

[Fanto]

Oh my god, I don't know if I can take this lol.

 

[Fanto]

I just hope that Polter calls this out as being bullshit.

 

[Fanto]

Nin is basically giving up. And he would sit there and give me hell every time I would be all mopey about thinking I was getting lynched. He has no reason to give up this easily now.

 

[Fanto]

What is this bullshit about Nin "outing himself" right now? When did he admit to anything? Fireblend apparently thinks Nin gave up when he said "Boo this man"? Does that translate to "I'm Scum"?

 

[Stantastic]

What is this bullshit about Nin "outing himself" right now? When did he admit to anything? Fireblend apparently thinks Nin gave up when he said "Boo this man"? Does that translate to "I'm Scum"?

oh good its not just me.

 

[Stuart444]

Not like nin is helping matters tbf.

 

[Fanto]

Yeah, that was before he had said he was Neutral. I don't know why he chose to go that route with all this. I guess we'll see how it plays out, but with Polter and LP on board for his lynch today, I dont know if there's anything that can save him.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Lmao at that Coolest play. Guess we’ll see if that works.

 

[Verelios]

Spoiler

Basically what happened was Ketkat suggested Fire or Polter. Then Malus floated out DCPat. No one responded. Malus came back hours later and submitted the kill on DCPat. Then Nin said he was cool with it.

So yeah, that's how it was decided...

Hahahaha

Yo, ketkat had the right idea. If they lose then this was a turning point

 

[Verelios]

The lone man
The Prodigy

He shall save us from damnation

 

[Chuggernaut]

LP is in a weird spot. For him to win he has to drag out the game for a bit more and then he has to give the win to scum at the end when he exits the game. Town loses if he wins.

 

[Verelios]

If town lynches scum twice then it doesn't matter if LP leaves.

 

[Fanto]

The problem (for us Scum at least) is if Scum shoots LP. The good part is, the dude is so naturally sketchy that I would hope they would not go for him before the remaining townies. I feel good about our chances still, but am worried since shit is so tense now.

 

[Chuggernaut]

There’s enough people on town that have figured out this game that if they get nin today, then the rest of the scum team is going to be easy as hell to find. Fireblend has the rest of the scum team in his sights, and Coolest wants to kill Malus at the very least. Polter is really the only issue at this point but he’ll come around if they actually flip nin. Then at the point the game is going to depend on LP and if scum NKs him or not.

 

[Verelios]

Scum will likely NK Coolest or Polter. The best case scenario would be to NK coolest, fringe out LP, convince Polter that Fireblend is suspect.

 

[Yuta]

If town lynches scum twice then it doesn't matter if LP leaves.

Uh no, it does still matter.

D8 3-1-3 / lynch scum + nk
D9 2-1-2 / lynch scum + nk + LP leaves
D10 1-1 -> scum wins

The biggest hurdle to a scum win is night killing LP. The only other scenario possible is LP staying till final 3. He'd be kingmaker and loses anyway.

 

[Yuta]

Spoiler

He still can win. Coolest is using his roleblock tonight and if he sends one item tonight and another tomorrow he could win by night 8. The BP was self use.

If someone with an item dies and still haven't used it the item is returned to LP to try again.

And if the game ends and he still have unused items he loses.

Spoiler: Role Spoiler

LP is the neutral. He has a bunch of items that don't work and has to give them away and they must be used. So far he only sent a Bulletproof. He tried to send an item to Geno the night he died and he was roleblocked the last 2 nights. I'm hoping he can send the gun at least tonight as I want someone to try to make a kill and fail.

Also it will be fun when LP flips and Fantomas realizes that his BP is completly useless.

@Franconp Can you clarify LP's win con? If Fireblend sits on the roleblock all game, LP can't win?

 

[Verelios]

Uh no, it does still matter.

D8 3-1-3 / lynch scum + nk
D9 2-1-2 / lynch scum + nk + LP leaves
D10 1-1 -> scum wins

The biggest hurdle to a scum win is night killing LP. The only other scenario possible is LP staying till final 3. He'd be kingmaker and loses anyway.

Hmmm, I didn't think of that. I thought there'd be some leeway with town posters but I guess someones gonna die tonight.

 

[Franconp]

@Franconp Can you clarify LP's win con? If Fireblend sits on the roleblock all game, LP can't win?

Yes, he not only has to give the items but also the items must be activated. If Fireblend don't use the item he can't win. And Fireblend don't have a roleblock, he has a gun.

If Fireblends dies the gun returns to LP and he can try sending it to someone else.

I think he made a mistake with the order he sent the items. He should have sent the gun first, where it was less risky to use it. Now Fireblend may be to worried about fucking it up that he may not use it. And he should have saved the BP for last, as it self activate the same night that it was sent. That way he saved a day.

 

[Yuta]

What did LP do the first half of the game? (o.o') ( I know you repeatedly said he got unlucky)

BP to Fantomas (used)
RB to Coolest (used)
Gun to Fireblend
??? To Dcpat, which is back

So he's in the game at least until N9. And being the losing kingmaker is very much possible. Normally I'd say scum do not NK LP with the remaining confirmed town, but ... the choices so far were not what I was expecting.

 

[Yuta]

@Fantomas did anyone take notice of LP's hint in scum chat?

 

[Franconp]

What did LP do the first half of the game? (o.o') ( I know you repeatedly said he got unlucky)

BP to Fantomas (used)
RB to Coolest (used)
Gun to Fireblend
??? To Dcpat, which is back

So he's in the game at least until N9. And being the losing kingmaker is very much possible. Normally I'd say scum do not NK LP with the remaining confirmed town, but ... the choices so far were not what I was expecting.

The remaining item is a motion detector.

He tried to send the gun to Geno N2 but he was killed by Chugger the same night and then he was roleblocked twice.

 

[cabot]

a neutral tracker with track x wincon is a great idea for a future bastard game. it's the right side of self serving and useless.

 

[Stuart444]

I think Nin going along with the neutral idea has come back to bite him considering what Polter said was true. His actions conflict with his supposed win con.

Should have just straight up denied it. Wouldn't even be able to say "you're scum" because Splinter was checked iirc and he came back non-alien despite being scum.

 

[Fanto]

@Fantomas did anyone take notice of LP's hint in scum chat?

That he was the item giver? No. Malus noticed it in the game thread in real time if I remember right, and then we discussed how he was probably right in Scum Chat before LP claimed.

 

[Yuta]

That he was the item giver? No. Malus noticed it in the game thread in real time if I remember right, and then we discussed how he was probably right in Scum Chat before LP claimed.

That he hinted at being the neutral about to fulfill his win con. Someone, I thought it was you, quoted it here.

 

[Fanto]

That he hinted at being the neutral about to fulfill his win con. Someone, I thought it was you, quoted it here.

Ohhhh, no. No one in Scum Chat pointed that out. I did quote that in here though yeah.

 

[Fanto]

These questions from Polter are good. He's basically figured out that this is a bullshit red check, and that Nin is not a Neutral. What will he do with these thoughts though?

 

[Yuta]

Good. Town still has a chance at winning :)

Nin will be today's lynch. And maybe, just maybe they kill LP? Polter and Coolest should be higher up the list, but who knows?

Ketkat, Fireblend + x as final 3.

 

[Fanto]

There is a chance they kill LP, but I think both Malus and Ketkat see him as a mislynch still. However, considering how rough the kill choice went last night, who knows.

Ketkat has been MIA a few times this game when we've really needed her. I think she's a great player and she made some great points in Scum Chat more than once, but then like last night she was no where to be found. She made one post about wanting to kill Fireblend or Poltergust, who definitely should have been the kill targets and if I was alive I would have said so as well, but she never came back before the deadline.

I'm leaning towards wanting either Poltergust or Fireblend gone. I think aiming for Coolest might be a little too obvious right now with the people he's suspecting, and LP's honestly not a threat with the way that power went last night. It leads me to believe that none of his abilities are actually working, but its possible there was a switcher of some kind too I guess

And she hasn't been in the game thread or the Scum Chat today yet at all. Like, I get that she's probably just busy and doesn't have a lot of time for the game, especially on a weekend, but it just kind of sucks having one of your teammates disappear on you for 24+ hours like that.

Again, not trying to say anything bad about Ket, I think she's a great player and she was a great teammate to have on my side, but it's rough to see her not be around when the rest of the Scum Team really needs her.

 

[Fanto]

I will hand it to Nin, a Neutral Tracker who desperately wants to win with Town is a pretty hilarious role claim lol. It makes almost no sense at all.

 

[Fanto]

Well, Malus is pulling the Coroner claim. We'll see how that goes for him.

 

[Sorian]

Oh malus....

No....

Lol

 

[Franconp]

What will Malus say when they ask if he targeted Sorian?

 

[Fanto]

I have no idea lol. This is such a weird day. All I can do is hope that LP wins at this point since that seems like the only way for Scum to win now.

 

[Fanto]

I don't know if I should trust my gut or my brain in deciding who to lynch today. My brain says "LYNCH NIN YOU IDIOT" yet I have the strangest feeling that this whole thing feels like some sort of set-up.

This is so good. I love how this doesn't add up to him, because it shouldn't.

People should be voting for Nin, but it should be because they think he is Scum, not because they think he is an Alien Neutral Tracker lol. Unfortunately, since Nin is confirming Coolest's fake check, Coolest needs to admit he lied in order to make sense of the situation, and I don't know if he'll do that.

 

[Fanto]

Nin is so lonely in Scum Chat right now:

Talking to myself like Sorian, now I know how how it feels to post a lot without anyone reading or listening :()

 

[Stuart444]

Couldn't Coolest come out and say he lied about the check thereby confirming Nin was trying to take advantage of his fake check lol

 

[Fanto]

Why wouldn't he have said that as soon as Nin started saying he was an alien though? He knows that his check didn't return that result, yet he's acting like it did. Now Fireblend is even saying he believes that Nin is a neutral and wants to lynch him for it, which is hilarious because if they lynched the actual Neutral today, SCUM WOULD WIN!

Also I think Nin is bussing Ketkat as a last ditch effort to save himself because she isn't around. He asked if she needed a replacement in Scum Chat, tagged her, and then made that vote on her in the game thread.

 

[Stuart444]

Why wouldn't he have said that as soon as Nin started saying he was an alien though?

Because the longer he lets Nin do this, the more he digs himself into a whole and CS' comes out, says it was a fake check and it takes away any doubt that Nin is lying as well.

At least from my perspective that would be good.

 

[Stuart444]

If the distribution right now is 4 town, 1 neutral and 2 scum, and we let you live today so you can exit the game and also mislynch today, we'll be at 2 vs 2 at the beginning of tomorrow and lose. Which makes lynching you now the most cautious alternstive.

Is it bad that I almost want LP to come out as neutral with his win con and all?

I know he won't but it'd be pretty good as LPs actions line up more than Nin's actions for a neutral.

 

[Fanto]

Because the longer he lets Nin do this, the more he digs himself into a whole and CS' comes out, says it was a fake check and it takes away any doubt that Nin is lying as well.

At least from my perspective that would be good.

Yeah, that's true I suppose. I guess if that was his plan then we'll find out soon enough.

 

[Fanto]

Oh my god, Poltergust wants to lynch LP.

I don't know if I can handle this shit lol.

 

[Stuart444]

Yeah, that's true I suppose. I guess if that was his plan then we'll find out soon enough.

Oh I highly doubt it was his plan. But if it works out that way and he's figured that out, I can see him not saying anything until he decides the charade has gone on long enough lol.

 

[Fanto]

God, they're so close. They even just listed the Malus/Ketkat world. But they just aren't seeing it from the right angle.

Also, I approve of Malus's use of the Joffrey gif there.

 

[Stuart444]

Also, I approve of Malus's use of the Joffrey gif there.

I knew you would lol.

 

[cabot]

Wow Polt has clearly spelled out the massive mess around nin and decides....not to lynch him.


:|

 

[Stuart444]

if I was Coolest, I'd use LPs opening to come clean and say how this was bait to see what nin would do.

 

[Verelios]

It's so weird seeing LP trying so hard when he's neutral and getting most of the game state right when he's leaving soon. Haha.

 

[Verelios]

Now I can see that sometimes it really is best to just turbo endgame when nothings happening

 

[Chuggernaut]

Yeah, like just kill nin already, what are you doing

 

[Stantastic]

Even knowing who scum and town are now this game is nothing but confusing.

 

[Fanto]

There's no way they don't vote for Nin today, right? Like, Fire is just asking people this to get some conversation going, right?

 

[Verelios]

Town giveth, and so town taketh away

 

[Chuggernaut]

I can’t really blame LP for wanting to get rid of an inactive player tonight

 

[Verelios]

Oh no, Malus baby, what is you doing?

 

[Fanto]

I dont know if I can watch this, too tense lol.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Polter about to end the game for town with that vote

 

[Yuta]

..... :(

 

[Stuart444]

Town ;_;

 

[Chuggernaut]

LP self preserve votes, Malus votes last second for the tie, they NK literally anyone, game over.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Polter isn’t going to switch his vote. Dudes been too stubborn for most of this game. Good job scum. Too bad about LP