I don't know if its Blarg, but I did have a feeling there was one. I definitely wasn't expecting him to just post his role PM though. This might be a weird day end if it keeps going
Scum Thread The Hidden Meeting Room (aka The Bathroom)
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I don't know if its Blarg, but I did have a feeling there was one. I definitely wasn't expecting him to just post his role PM though. This might be a weird day end if it keeps going
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Well, I guess I live to see another day at least.
This is what D2 is going to start with though. Splinter/Melon/Vere/Polter/LP all over me. Unless Splinter is able to whisper some sweet nothings into Polter's ear tonight. Melon is going to be way too suspicious if Splinter drops off of me tomorrow though, so I expect him to stay, which means Polter will too. LP will probably push for me now over Stan. Vere will likely review my entire post history in the thread now and pick out all the scummiest ones which I probably have no defense for.
This is what D2 is going to start with though. Splinter/Melon/Vere/Polter/LP all over me. Unless Splinter is able to whisper some sweet nothings into Polter's ear tonight. Melon is going to be way too suspicious if Splinter drops off of me tomorrow though, so I expect him to stay, which means Polter will too. LP will probably push for me now over Stan. Vere will likely review my entire post history in the thread now and pick out all the scummiest ones which I probably have no defense for.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I think I basically have to get lynched tomorrow. There's too much info from my flip now because of those No Lynch votes. It implicates Splinter too once I flip Scum. Melon will catch on to that I bet, but with Polter on his side he should be safe. Him going NL there along with Splinter makes their claim all the more stronger. Other than that, it was Faddy that started it and Geno followed right away. People now think Faddy and I are Scum together, so I bet he actually gets targeted after I flip, so don't NK him. Geno might get targeted, but I doubt it, he's strong enough to keep people off of him for that reason I think.
Since I'm dead tomorrow, I basically have to use my ability tonight then. Who does everyone think I should be targeting here for the fake red check? And should I use my fake amnesiac cop claim to go with it and try to get myself some Town Cred back?
Since I'm dead tomorrow, I basically have to use my ability tonight then. Who does everyone think I should be targeting here for the fake red check? And should I use my fake amnesiac cop claim to go with it and try to get myself some Town Cred back?
Fanto
Confirmed Town
My problem here is that Town-Fantomas never really had any heat on him in GoT. The only time I was up for a lynch was on like D8 I think, whatever day it was that we lynched Meatwad, and the only reason I was there was because of Meatwad being Scum and Nin deciding to vote with him instead of the Town Circle. And then ET bussed Meatwad instead of voting for me and it was all fine, so I never really had to act under that pressure.
The only time I was seriously scum-read in GoT was... Ummm... Never? I don't think anyone ever seriously scum-read me to the point of wanting to vote for me. The people I remember voting for me the most were Blarg, Nin, and Meatwad, two of which were Scum. The one time Faddy voted for me was when I was in the Thunderdome, and it wasn't because he thought I was Scum, it was because he thought I was more likely to be Scum than the other 3 options.
So I'm really not sure how I'm going to approach D3 tomorrow after literally being saved by Sparks' suicide.
I think my best bet to survive and get some desperately needed Town Cred is to deploy my Amnesiac Cop gambit tomorrow at the start of the day. I don't know who I should be checking or sending the check to though, but it at least gives me something hopefully.
Also, Sorian's play is supposedly going to come through at the start of the day, so we'll see what that was all about as well and that might maybe draw some attention off of me if it gives them anything to go with.
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As for my thoughts on other night actions:
Nin made a good call tracking Blarg, so I think we should let him work out who he wants to track again tonight.
Ketkat's secret vote is a big question mark for me as far as what use we are going to get out of it.
Splinter's room switch probably isn't necessary. At best, if there is an Arsonist afoot, they might be the one who is room limited, otherwise I think the map is bullshit right now.
Malus can use his Janitor Modifier on the Kill tonight, so that's a thing we should be asking ourselves about for sure. If there is someone we think we should Janitor Kill, please bring them forward. Otherwise if we want to hold on to it, we should just think about another low info kill probably. I still think Blarg is probably the lowest info kill out there right now as far as the Town is concerned at least, but I'm up to hear if anyone has any other suggestions.
The only time I was seriously scum-read in GoT was... Ummm... Never? I don't think anyone ever seriously scum-read me to the point of wanting to vote for me. The people I remember voting for me the most were Blarg, Nin, and Meatwad, two of which were Scum. The one time Faddy voted for me was when I was in the Thunderdome, and it wasn't because he thought I was Scum, it was because he thought I was more likely to be Scum than the other 3 options.
So I'm really not sure how I'm going to approach D3 tomorrow after literally being saved by Sparks' suicide.
I think my best bet to survive and get some desperately needed Town Cred is to deploy my Amnesiac Cop gambit tomorrow at the start of the day. I don't know who I should be checking or sending the check to though, but it at least gives me something hopefully.
Also, Sorian's play is supposedly going to come through at the start of the day, so we'll see what that was all about as well and that might maybe draw some attention off of me if it gives them anything to go with.
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As for my thoughts on other night actions:
Nin made a good call tracking Blarg, so I think we should let him work out who he wants to track again tonight.
Ketkat's secret vote is a big question mark for me as far as what use we are going to get out of it.
Splinter's room switch probably isn't necessary. At best, if there is an Arsonist afoot, they might be the one who is room limited, otherwise I think the map is bullshit right now.
Malus can use his Janitor Modifier on the Kill tonight, so that's a thing we should be asking ourselves about for sure. If there is someone we think we should Janitor Kill, please bring them forward. Otherwise if we want to hold on to it, we should just think about another low info kill probably. I still think Blarg is probably the lowest info kill out there right now as far as the Town is concerned at least, but I'm up to hear if anyone has any other suggestions.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I just feel like I fucked up real bad here and don't really have a chance to come back from it. I've got at least 5 people scum reading me, Kalor as well, so really it's like 6. Majority is 9. Stan, Chugg, Terra, Geno; any of them could go for me too easily. Blarg is Blarg, he might decide to vote me too for a "50/50". Even if Splinter doesn't bus me here, there are more than enough Town members that are on to me.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
You don't need to claim straight away. You claim when you think it's the only thing that will save you, and you shouldn't be thinking that yet.
What you need to remember is that a lot of people are actively against your lynch. The people who agree with it were already mostly on you. With Spark out of the way new candidates will be chosen, and I don't think many new people will join your vote.
It's not most vote trains were the people not on it yet are disinterested or unaware of it. The situation is nowhere near as bad as it looks.
For next phase, I'd recommend you don't focus on it at all. Answer questions when you get them, but otherwise just continue playing your regular townie game. It's got a lot of people fooled.
What you need to remember is that a lot of people are actively against your lynch. The people who agree with it were already mostly on you. With Spark out of the way new candidates will be chosen, and I don't think many new people will join your vote.
It's not most vote trains were the people not on it yet are disinterested or unaware of it. The situation is nowhere near as bad as it looks.
For next phase, I'd recommend you don't focus on it at all. Answer questions when you get them, but otherwise just continue playing your regular townie game. It's got a lot of people fooled.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
Blarg would be a decent kill as we'd find out what he did to Faddy. It seems he's probably just a room tracker though which isn't very interesting.
Hmm...
Room tracker on a useless map
Cop(s) that only get null results
A firefighter without an arsonist (I'm guessing)
Maybe everyone is secretly vanilla
Except Sorian, who will revive as a vanilla
Hmm...
Room tracker on a useless map
Cop(s) that only get null results
A firefighter without an arsonist (I'm guessing)
Maybe everyone is secretly vanilla
Except Sorian, who will revive as a vanilla
Fanto
Confirmed Town
My problem here is that I don't know what my regular townie game looks like in this situation. I want to go after you and/or Melon like I said earlier, but that is basically me pulling an OMGUS, right? Like, Town-Fanto is wondering why the hell people are voting for me in the first place. Fake-You's read on me is fucking trash in my opinion, and the fact that Melon decided to jump on it out of no where is like, what the fuck, to me. Vere's vote is the only one I think is good there, it was for an actually good reason, and I expect him to bring more to the table. LP was sheeping both reads on his list, but he probably has his own reasons too.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
All I really see happening in my favor is a strong defense from Faddy, but he won't go too hard. I will try my best not to focus on it, but I guarantee I have people breathing down my neck at various points throughout the day, and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm an EoD train for the rest of the game until I do get lynched.
I'm also seeing myself having a very hard time responding to you in the game thread tomorrow Splinter if you keep this read up. It is literally going to take every ounce of my effort to not throw you under the bus. Like, I know for a fact that you have a trash read on me right now, because it's fake as fuck, because I'm your scum-mate. What am I supposed to do with that?
I'm also seeing myself having a very hard time responding to you in the game thread tomorrow Splinter if you keep this read up. It is literally going to take every ounce of my effort to not throw you under the bus. Like, I know for a fact that you have a trash read on me right now, because it's fake as fuck, because I'm your scum-mate. What am I supposed to do with that?
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Sorry, I definitely just need to cool down here. It's just hard to look at this game in a positive way for me right now, if things had gotten to play out normally with Sparks getting lynched, I think I'd feel better, but the way it went down, ugh, I just think it makes me look so much worse to everyone else there.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
So do that. Don't worry about "this situation", just push for the lynch of whoever you "think" is scum.
If the scummiest thing in the thread right now is the arguments against you, that's what you should go for.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
okay, seems that fran ended the day.
Good thing.
Now to you Fantomas.
Show some backbone and get ready for a wild ride!
This is what makes mafia unique, its always the unknown! Will you survive another day or not ?!
Look at me and GoT mate, i thought i was done for after a day, yet i kept surviving and surviving.
Show me your surviving skills.
Dont give up on me
we are here in the same BOAT!
Your teammates will try their hardest to keep you alive!
Good thing.
Now to you Fantomas.
Show some backbone and get ready for a wild ride!
This is what makes mafia unique, its always the unknown! Will you survive another day or not ?!
Look at me and GoT mate, i thought i was done for after a day, yet i kept surviving and surviving.
Show me your surviving skills.
Dont give up on me
we are here in the same BOAT!
Your teammates will try their hardest to keep you alive!
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Well, 3 out of 4 at least.
Yeah, you have to keep in mind that they're town and they get easily distracted. I think that using the fake red check would be a good call. And if we don't have someone claim amnesiac cop, they might not be as trustworthy since the game is full of misdirections. That can really wait until we see how town reacts to the red check first though.
My power could be useful for stacking votes on someone that town isn't expecting, assuming that the votes aren't revealed at day end. If they are, it'll still lead to some mistrust among them, and really it can only be used tomorrow night at the latest, so if we don't want to use it now (which I don't think we should if we're sending out a red check), then I'll use it tomorrow for sure.
Is there anyone that we want to kill for sure tonight? If Blarg is a room tracker, then that's not too worrying tonight with most people in one room.
My power could be useful for stacking votes on someone that town isn't expecting, assuming that the votes aren't revealed at day end. If they are, it'll still lead to some mistrust among them, and really it can only be used tomorrow night at the latest, so if we don't want to use it now (which I don't think we should if we're sending out a red check), then I'll use it tomorrow for sure.
Is there anyone that we want to kill for sure tonight? If Blarg is a room tracker, then that's not too worrying tonight with most people in one room.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Here's the remaining player list with us removed. I also removed Poltergust since he's basically an honorary Scum Team member due to his relationship with Splinter.
PINK = Fake Red Check Target
BLUE = Receiver of my Fake Red Check
RED = Kill Target
Verelios
Geno
Faddy
Blargonaut
StanleyPalmtree
TheChuggernaut
Terraforce
Kalor
melonrabbit
Fireblend
Lone_Prodigy
I'm feeling like Blarg and Stan are two pretty low info kills for the Town. Stan was getting some light scum reads, but they were based on nothing really. Also, I didn't highlight him, but I have to mention that I want LP fucking dead ASAP. Dude has 3/5 of us down right now, all he needs to do is realize Splinter and Nin aren't Town before LyLo and he's already solved the game.
As for my check here, had Melon not started Scum reading me for no reason, I never would have considered putting a fake red check on her after what she did to Splinter in GoT, but nah, fuck Melon, she's my top target. My other one would be Kalor. And then yeah, I can't think of a single person that I would want to send the check to other than Faddy. Maybe Fireblend, but I'd rather send it to Faddy.
PINK = Fake Red Check Target
BLUE = Receiver of my Fake Red Check
RED = Kill Target
Verelios
Geno
Faddy
Blargonaut
StanleyPalmtree
TheChuggernaut
Terraforce
Kalor
melonrabbit
Fireblend
Lone_Prodigy
I'm feeling like Blarg and Stan are two pretty low info kills for the Town. Stan was getting some light scum reads, but they were based on nothing really. Also, I didn't highlight him, but I have to mention that I want LP fucking dead ASAP. Dude has 3/5 of us down right now, all he needs to do is realize Splinter and Nin aren't Town before LyLo and he's already solved the game.
As for my check here, had Melon not started Scum reading me for no reason, I never would have considered putting a fake red check on her after what she did to Splinter in GoT, but nah, fuck Melon, she's my top target. My other one would be Kalor. And then yeah, I can't think of a single person that I would want to send the check to other than Faddy. Maybe Fireblend, but I'd rather send it to Faddy.
malus
#1 official chartmaker
Between Stan and Blarg I would probably go for Stan first, since Blarg doesn't seem to be a threat at all at the moment. If we're going to use the janitor kill it should probably be someone that hasn't claimed a role yet or there is some suspicion about the truthfulness of their claim. So Geno, Terra and Chugg would be out of the question for me, since Vere already confirmed Chuggs claim and Geno and Terra don't seem to be a threat to us.
As for the check, Melon may be a bit risky, since she voted for you, but then if I were town I would probably check the ones that vote for me anyway.
As for the check, Melon may be a bit risky, since she voted for you, but then if I were town I would probably check the ones that vote for me anyway.
So, these are all the claims so far from people who are still around right?
Sorian (Kind of still around, we'll see) - Cop
Geno - Werewolf Cop
Terraforce - Alien Cop
Chuggernaut - Gossip
Blargonaut - Watches what Room someone goes to?
Faddy - Silences Chats when he dies?
If we want to send Faddy the red check tonight, then he can wait, but it might be worth going for someone who's already claimed or come close to it like Blarg. At the same time, I feel like they have to have some actual useful roles as well, right? It might be worth just aiming for someone who hasn't even hinted at anything to see if we can find a protection role.
I think that fake red checking Melon might be a little too mean, so I'm leaning towards Kalor just for that reason. But, that's really more up to you.
Sorian (Kind of still around, we'll see) - Cop
Geno - Werewolf Cop
Terraforce - Alien Cop
Chuggernaut - Gossip
Blargonaut - Watches what Room someone goes to?
Faddy - Silences Chats when he dies?
If we want to send Faddy the red check tonight, then he can wait, but it might be worth going for someone who's already claimed or come close to it like Blarg. At the same time, I feel like they have to have some actual useful roles as well, right? It might be worth just aiming for someone who hasn't even hinted at anything to see if we can find a protection role.
I think that fake red checking Melon might be a little too mean, so I'm leaning towards Kalor just for that reason. But, that's really more up to you.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, I'm fine with either as low info kills. For the Janitor yeah, I'm not sure. LP would be who I would want if we go outside those two, but idk if we want to actually kill him yet.
We do know that someone sent me a 1-Shot Bulletproof use on N1, so that might be how the Protector is operating. I'm guessing they are X-Shot if that's the case and they want to send them to their town reads. I don't know who would have sent me that on N1 though, unless Faddy is lying about his role and he's the Protector? Could be an interesting gambit from him if that's the case, he's smart enough to think of that too.
Otherwise yeah, I think aiming outside of the claims is a good idea. The Werewolf/Alien Cops are likely Bastard roles, Chugg's isn't really that big of a deal, and until we know Sorian is going to be revived, there's no point in aiming there.
And yeah, it would be really mean to fake red check Melon,
But yeah, I do agree, and Kalor is who I had been considering until Melon. I also think the thread will react more positively to a red check on Kalor than they would to a red check on Melon, so that's who I'll probably do it to. Would like to hear if Splinter and Nin have thoughts on who I should put it on too though before I put it out, and if they think Faddy is the best target to receive it or not.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Ok, hold up a second actually. Does this actually make sense of Me/Faddy/Blarg last night?
Otherwise this is just a conspiracy theory, but hey, it's Conspiracy Mafia so let me have my wild theories lol.
Splinter moved me to the Dining Room.
I receive a 1-Shot Bulletproof power from someone on N1.
Ketkat pointed out Blarg's post on D2 about Faddy "finding something in the Dining Room". Points out that he might be able to Track what room his target went to.
If Faddy is actually the Protector, he would have gone to the Dining Room N1 to give me a 1-Shot Bulletproof. If we kill Blarg today and prove that he did Track Faddy to the Dining Room on N1, I think we may have found the Protector, and it's Faddy lying about his role to keep Scum off of him.
Otherwise this is just a conspiracy theory, but hey, it's Conspiracy Mafia so let me have my wild theories lol.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
If you're down to red check Melon, then I am 100% down to red check Melon.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
So you think I actually caught something there? Oh man, I don't know if I want to kill Faddy yet though. I desperately need him on my side for today. He will not vote for me.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
The way the Wiki says it works is that I pick a target to check, but my result gets sent to someone else. So yeah, Melon would be someone I would check, but actually I would probably check anyone that was voting for me. Melon is the only one that I had a null read on though besides you, and obviously I'm not going to give him a red check on you, so yeah, I think Melon is who I would most logically use that check on.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Also I'm really feeling Blarg as a kill target now. If we can prove that Blarg has the role we think he does, it almost confirms that Faddy is the Protector. And then for Town, what do they learn by us killing Blarg? The only people Blarg has mentioned are Poltergust and Faddy. Otherwise he's just been roleplaying by himself.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
we can since one is the individual command and the other one is a faction command
Franconp
Frank
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
nevermind then
Franconp
Frank
No, you cant
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
Yeah I think you will be, please go ahead
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, I'm not going to. If people ask me for my thoughts on it, I'll give them, but otherwise I'll just try to get in and react to the things that go down.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
I warned you. Get your head straight.
No need to act like an amateur!
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
After so much time, I think so aswell
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Since this is probably what's going to get discussed in the main thread today, I figure maybe we can talk about some Scum stuff in here with Splinter while we still have him around.
There is a Town Roleblocker afoot. Terra said he was blocked N1, and now I was blocked N2. Thoughts on who it might be? I'm thinking Melon or Vere personally.
Then we have the info from Blarg's flip and the Track on Faddy. So Blarg did not have the role we thought he did, instead he got a Paranoid Red Check on Faddy, which also makes sense of his roleplaying, so we were off about that. Also, Faddy didn't move anywhere last night, but it doesn't mean he isn't the Protector for sure. I still think that was a really good moment of us putting our heads together on N2 though and getting a good lead to go on, so I still think we made the right call with those moves and I'm proud of how we worked together there with the info we had.
For tonight, we'll be using Ketkat's Secret Vote just because we have to otherwise we never get to. Other than that, we can discuss some kill targets again later, but I would like to hear Splinter's thoughts on a Kill target before he has to go.
There is a Town Roleblocker afoot. Terra said he was blocked N1, and now I was blocked N2. Thoughts on who it might be? I'm thinking Melon or Vere personally.
Then we have the info from Blarg's flip and the Track on Faddy. So Blarg did not have the role we thought he did, instead he got a Paranoid Red Check on Faddy, which also makes sense of his roleplaying, so we were off about that. Also, Faddy didn't move anywhere last night, but it doesn't mean he isn't the Protector for sure. I still think that was a really good moment of us putting our heads together on N2 though and getting a good lead to go on, so I still think we made the right call with those moves and I'm proud of how we worked together there with the info we had.
For tonight, we'll be using Ketkat's Secret Vote just because we have to otherwise we never get to. Other than that, we can discuss some kill targets again later, but I would like to hear Splinter's thoughts on a Kill target before he has to go.