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[heymonkey]

Kark and Nomadic have run the No Lynch path before. Can't figure why BFrryl is doing it.

 

[Hecht]

Day 1 Ends:

 

[Kyanrute]

Thoughts for the record so my superb votes do not seem like they come out of nowhere (and yes this is scum me covering for myself huehuexd)

1. BiscuitFreak69 [-] (Darryl)
3. Bronx-Man [m]
6. Dusk Soldier [m]
9. flatearthpandas [m]
11. Karkador [m]
12. Kawl [m]

ZZZ people, no lynchers and feps as the random.org candidate.

Sure, could go for Nin or Nomadic too. Blarg has been strangely useless yeah kill Blarg.

 

[Kyanrute]

What about Kawl that is scummy?

What do you think of him and why?

 

[CCS]

A lot of shade at all of the no lynch people right now. Seriously?

 

[Kyanrute]

is shade because having the NO MURDER VS. YES MURDER debate is the discussion to have at t-minus 2 or better cuz that certainly leads into meaningful lynches and all

#selffulfillingthing

 

[cabot]

well it's not exactly a well-looked upon solution.

 

[heymonkey]

cabot, I find it fascinating that you're not vote-hopping in this game.

 

[nin1000]

Naw man. No lynch is just not my cup of tea.

 

[Faddy]

I'm mildly intrigued by no lynch and even more intrigued by what the pro lynch people are going to do about it.

 

[Kyanrute]

...

though a game of hugs and flowers and pacifism would be one heck of a meme

 

[BiscuitFreak69]

is shade because having the NO MURDER VS. YES MURDER debate is the discussion to have at t-minus 2 or better cuz that certainly leads into meaningful lynches and all

#selffulfillingthing

We showed our voices for no lynch earlier, it's you that has waited to have the debate. Don't put that on us

 

[Kyanrute]

No lynch v pro lynch v Faddy. All right.

 

[Kyanrute]

We showed our voices for no lynch earlier, it's you that has waited to have the debate. Don't put that on us

That debate is dumber than 100 of my shitposts. I am not having a part of it.

 

[Faddy]

No lynch v pro lynch v Faddy. All right.

I'm perfectly happy to lynch CCS, sorry mate but you have as much chance of being scum as anyone else.

 

[BiscuitFreak69]

That debate is dumber than 100 of my shitposts. I am not having a part of it.

Nothing can be dumber than your shitposts. You come in with a wrecking ball of RNG reads and start pulling at a thread for reads that you yourself denounce. You're quackier than a biscuit.

 

[CCS]

I'm perfectly willing to lynch anyone who is suggesting no lynch

 

[Kyanrute]

Nothing can be dumber than your shitposts. You come in with a wrecking ball of RNG reads and start pulling at a thread for reads that you yourself denounce. You're quackier than a biscuit.

Hey I am trying my best to balance the dumbness from your side. Shit is hard man.

 

[Kyanrute]

And for the record I've asked twice for team hippie love to explain themselves but noooo.

 

[BiscuitFreak69]

I don't want town barking up the wrong tree over this. I stated on my first post, I think, why I thought this game was different than others and why we should consider a No Lynch.

 

[BiscuitFreak69]

And for the record I've asked twice for team hippie love to explain themselves but noooo.

In my experience, the best day #1s in our meta have been where town has flailed wildly at the end of day at low activity posters and people who don't play a lot of games. This game is a bit different, a lot of us have played with each other. More so than usual. Maybe we should look at trying something new out.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

No Lynch is peferable because any and all speculation is baseless on day one

if you really want a lynch, then tell me who would you pefer to be lynched

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

No one is particularly scummy right now

 

[Kyanrute]

Info gain + the minimal chance to hit scum / bad neutrals > something new.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

I can be convinced to lynch Sorian tbh

 

[Kyanrute]

Any speculation is baseless -> nobody is scummy -> kill Sorian.

Must be town. Must.

 

[Faddy]

I can be convinced to lynch Sorian tbh

The more pertinent thing is whether you can convince other people to lynch Sorian.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Any speculation is baseless -> nobody is scummy -> kill Sorian.

Must be town. Must.

True blue townie

 

[El Topo]

No Lynch is peferable because any and all speculation is baseless on day one

if you really want a lynch, then tell me who would you pefer to be lynched

No one is particularly scummy right now

I can be convinced to lynch Sorian tbh

....wut?

 

[BiscuitFreak69]

Info gain + the minimal chance to hit scum / bad neutrals > something new.

This doesn't feel the least bit organic though

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

ALSOD1

Always Lynch Sorian on Day One

 

[heymonkey]

In my experience, the best day #1s in our meta have been where town has flailed wildly at the end of day at low activity posters and people who don't play a lot of games. This game is a bit different, a lot of us have played with each other. More so than usual. Maybe we should look at trying something new out.

I'll give you this. I didn't want to say much earlier but I think Dusk's question raised a valid point. Is this game determined by RNG or was it designed for us? I think the latter. And I expect there is a TWIST. But lynching gets us closer to that. So I cannot be convinced of a no lynch here. Sorry.

 

[Hecht]

Everyone was RNG'd.

 

[cabot]

cabot, I find it fascinating that you're not vote-hopping in this game.

Well trying something new is always fun.

Also I like my kark vote and nothing has come to change my mind

 

[heymonkey]

Fair, cabbeh.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

cabbeh's AV looks like he's up to something?

 

[heymonkey]

Even if we were RNGed as normal, I trust this structure none and Ouro less. I wanna see a flip.

Will be back for final vote. Got holiday stuff to do.

 

[karkador]

Is that praise? I took it as fact based on post count. Don't get me wrong, I'm leaning toward Scumrian myself but that doesn't feel like the strongest example considering it can be read another way, particularly as it was being used to correct a statement.

It's praise in the sense that he's rushing to defend you. Not only does he call you active, but THE MOST ACTIVE. It's a weird thing to overreact on. There's no reason to be defensive of anybody right now.

 

[Faddy]

cabbeh's AV looks like he's up to something?

People in glass houses...

 

[squidyj]

vote: Kawl

I don't like the idea of turning up into day 3 not having anything to work with on players still in the game. just get rid of them, convince scum and town alike to actually play the fucking game.

As for reads my dear monkey, I've got somewhat of a town read on Monkey and Cabot although cabot remains hard to read for me. I have no interest in lynching Topo right now thanks to his abrasiveness, it could be town aligned frustration but it feels early for that so it feels like he's putting on airs. He's definitely someone I want to revisit in later day phases though.

Sorian's play this day phase is definitely setting off alarms for me so I'm scum reading him. I'm sure any argument I give he will have a dismissive response ready to go to try to marginalize my view. With him I'd probably put nomadic sparks who has been talking a lot of nothing and egging other players on, who felt the need to say that he could be convinced to vote for sorian after pushing for a no lynch. I don't like it.

Too many people not saying very much this game.

 

[cabot]

Topo seems fairly normal to me. Down to complaining about my methods, it's absolutely typical.

 

[cabot]

I don't like voting out people who aren't present but I'll do it if the alternative is someone I don't want dead right now

 

[CCS]

Nomad's play feels a bit absurd, as highlighted by Topo

Vote: Nomad Sparkster

 

[flatearthpandas]

I said before i feel like Faddy is chasing bad roads than scum.

I also said i'd rather not vote inactive but we have some really egregious inactive and just one replacement.

I would vote sorian. Not omgus, but legit isn't trying. His scum read is me "trying to lynch the cop" either directly or through "shade". Which is honestly don't beyond the dumbest shit. I get that we can on some level fathom, but there's a key element. Did i say we should lynch bad town play? Yes. Is claiming cop off the bat with no checks fucking terrible town play? Yes... But do i believe that's what happened and have i actually pushed in any way for squid lynch... pure bullshit. It's pure reaching.

1. I believe Squid is the cop and want to lynch the cop.

Sure, scummy, but could just try to nk him. Maybe worried about doctor but just wifom jerkoff session. Based on something i didn't actually even do.

Sorian is a good player, allegedly. I've seen him town hooker scum to victory but that's also up to town being morons. I've also seen him throw games in lylo for stupid ass reasons that... well, also involved lynching me for nonreasons. Sooo... not only can he not read me when I'm not in his team, but i also have firsthand experience of him pushing stupid bullshit as scum.

2. I believe squid is the cop and want to lynch for bad play.

Not terrible, honestly. I don't think he is but lynching for bad play is a good tactic. Especially when conversation is on how can we be better town.

3. I believe squid isn't the cop but want to throw light shade to lynch him over an inactive

... For why?? Lynch the inactive, duh, who gives a fuck



Those are basically the scenarios. What is Sorian pushing as a competent player? He's pushing 1. Why? As town? No reason. As scum? Pushing for roles.

 

[flatearthpandas]

Whoops.

Vote: Sorian

 

[Faddy]

Sorian has got you rattled FEP

 

[Faddy]

Does NeoOuter have a cool down timer?

 

[Faddy]

Answer, no

 

[cabot]

Nomad's play feels a bit absurd, as highlighted by Topo

Vote: Nomad Sparkster

I dunno this feels like it came out of nowhere. Nomads play I'd always absurd.

What is different this time?

 

[Kyanrute]

CCS jumping at Nomad's silliness feels like a reach.

 

[Faddy]

CCS hinted at his vote

I'm perfectly willing to lynch anyone who is suggesting no lynch

Then he picked Nomadic. I'm interested in why people are jumping on him.

 

[flatearthpandas]

Not rattled. Actually, was feeling scum Sorian before he aggro'd. Can prove that later but not important now. What's important is our mvp has some exceptionally weak arguments.

More than ever, does he think i think squid is the cop or not? How does that influence his argument?

 

[cabot]

CCS hinted at his vote



Then he picked Nomadic. I'm interested in why people are jumping on him.

Because it wasn't really a thing until the post he voted.

You're both being rather defensive of each other. Which is interesting.

I feel better on you, slightly.

 

[cabot]

I'm not gonna be available very soon. I'll tune in until zola jesus begins.

 

[Kyanrute]

CCS hinted at his vote

Then he picked Nomadic. I'm interested in why people are jumping on him.

But CCS' vote came in response to the no lynch -> NAAAH Sorian maybe I dunno really -mess. Nomadic did not even have no lynch vote down.

 

[Faddy]

But CCS' vote came in response to the no lynch -> NAAAH Sorian maybe I dunno really -mess. Nomadic did not even have no lynch vote down.

Nomadic voted No Lynch like 2 hours ago.

 

[Kyanrute]

Huh that he did, right after the vote count. Missed that, my mistake.

 

[heymonkey]

CCS hinted at his vote

Then he picked Nomadic. I'm interested in why people are jumping on him.

You're voting him.

 

[karkador]

VOTE: Sorian

I just finished a game with him as scum. It looks the same.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

OH SHIT

Unvote

Vote: Sorian

 

[Faddy]

You're voting him.

What is your point here?

 

[cabot]

Vote count dear ouro?

 

[Hecht]

CCS (1)
Faddy

nin1000 (1)
cabot
El Topo

Sorian (3)
squidyj
El Topo
heymonkey
flatearthpandas
Karkador
Nomad Sparkster

El Topo (0)
Sorian

BiscuitFreak69 (1)
flatearthpandas
Dusk Soldier

Blargonaut (0)
kyanrute

Faddy (0)
flatearthpandas
heymonkey

flatearthpandas (1)
Blargonaut
Sorian

Karkador (1)
cabot
squidyj

No Lynch (2)
Karkador
Blargonaut
BiscuitFreak69
Nomadic Sparkster

Bronx-Man (1)
nin1000

Kawl (3)
heymonkey
Blargonaut
squidyj

Nomad Sparkster (1)
CCS


Day 1 Ends:

Majority is 10.

 

[heymonkey]

What is your point here?

What is the point of your vote if you're going to defend him?

On another note: I'm all for a Sorian vote but I'm hesitant to see shifts for meta reasons, frankly.

 

[cabot]

Kark has two separate votes

 

[Sorian]

Ok, I'm back, slept longer than I expected. You're all a mess.

Sorian, do you think i think squid is the cop. Y/n/m

No, I do think you're throwing shade from a position where you keep your hands clean though.

Sorian is playing like Scum Sorian, btw

I was going to ask what this means but someone beat me to it and this was hours ago with no mention of anything again.

Wait, Kawl is in this game?

Yes, Seath is too but at least he's been replaced.

Kark and Nomadic have run the No Lynch path before. Can't figure why BFrryl is doing it.

Biscuits has too. I remember arguing this with him once. I don't remember which game.

Thoughts for the record so my superb votes do not seem like they come out of nowhere (and yes this is scum me covering for myself huehuexd)

1. BiscuitFreak69 [-] (Darryl)
3. Bronx-Man [m]
6. Dusk Soldier [m]
9. flatearthpandas [m]
11. Karkador [m]
12. Kawl [m]

ZZZ people, no lynchers and feps as the random.org candidate.

Sure, could go for Nin or Nomadic too. Blarg has been strangely useless yeah kill Blarg.

Are you saying that FEP is a random.org choice? Because it looks like I'm the only one voting for him and he definitely isn't.

No Lynch is peferable because any and all speculation is baseless on day one

if you really want a lynch, then tell me who would you pefer to be lynched

It's all baseless on day 2 without actual voting patterns to compare to the night kill , you would think the community would learn by now that waiting for a PR to feed you the answer is how I keep winning as scum and neutral. And we have been telling you who we prefer to lynch, that's been the point of the last 24 hours.

 

[Kyanrute]

RE: CCS, Nomadic and no lynch. Yeah, now it makes sense. Kinda. Don't like Faddy fixing the narrative for CCS, that kinda is iffy.

 

[Sorian]

That all said, I'm not helping you all vote for Kawl. Has he even posted a single time? Let the moderator deal with that. I'm also not voting for no lynch, .

Past that it's really anyone's race. I'm still looking at FEP and Faddy.

 

[heymonkey]

Everyone posted at least once except the person being replaced.

 

[Kyanrute]

Are you saying that FEP is a random.org choice? Because it looks like I'm the only one voting for him and he definitely isn't.

Hmm I should remember to make my sillies more obvious sooooorrryyyyy :( I meant that he was the candidate random.org gave for me, nothing more.

 

[Kyanrute]

Hey what is this shit, my pretty text-smilies autoconverted to shitty images? The fuck.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Everyone posted at least once except the person being replaced.

BLARGH?

 

[Hecht]

Kark has two separate votes

fixed

 

[Faddy]

fixed

Nomadic has 2 votes as well

 

[Sorian]

Everyone posted at least once except the person being replaced.

This is not a post for game purposes. He may as well not be playing

What's cracking punks

Side note: Searching on this forum for specific posts by a person feels more unintuitive than it should be, I also don't like that multi-quote autotmaticallly orders them from oldest to newest even if I purposely quoted them in a different order.

 

[El Topo]

Posts:
-Talks about squidy, but refuses to analyse the behavior, instead focuses on Faddy.
-Justifies the reference to Faddy by referring to earlier game.
-Says he has never correctly read Kyan.
-Complains about sarcasm, takes a non-commital stance on no lynch.
-Complains about Nomadic.
-Says he has no real reads, but would be okay with lynching fep.
-Briefly justifies why he chooses fep over Faddy to cabot.
-Non-commital stance on reads. Just his gut right now.
-Asks fep which question he never answered.
-Defends fep choice to cabot. Argues it feels they are trying to police the game.
-Mentions the shade thrown at the no lynch people.
-Now perfectly willing to lynch anyone suggesting no lynch.
-Votes for Nomadic, refers to me.

Not sure if I missed a post. A lot of non-commital talk, jumping between ideas, then later voting for someone they never mentioned by referring to someone else. Could, not unreasonably so, be just confirmation bias of mine, but I wanted to bring it up, give an overview of his posts and justify my vote.

VOTE: CCS

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Nomadic has 2 votes as well

Who else?

 

[El Topo]

Would have posted this earlier, but real life stuff postponed this.

 

[Faddy]

Who else?

Your vote is being counted twice, NoLynch and Sorian.

 

[El Topo]

I've omitted a detailed analysis, notably because the posts were all rather short and because I'm not the biggest fan of reading too much into all of this, which is why it was important for me to also link the posts, so that others can quickly (and easily) check things and chime in.

 

[nin1000]

Kawl, ccs or sorian. Tough choice

 

[Sorian]

I said before i feel like Faddy is chasing bad roads than scum.

I also said i'd rather not vote inactive but we have some really egregious inactive and just one replacement.

I would vote sorian. Not omgus, but legit isn't trying. His scum read is me "trying to lynch the cop" either directly or through "shade". Which is honestly don't beyond the dumbest shit. I get that we can on some level fathom, but there's a key element. Did i say we should lynch bad town play? Yes. Is claiming cop off the bat with no checks fucking terrible town play? Yes... But do i believe that's what happened and have i actually pushed in any way for squid lynch... pure bullshit. It's pure reaching.

1. I believe Squid is the cop and want to lynch the cop.

Sure, scummy, but could just try to nk him. Maybe worried about doctor but just wifom jerkoff session. Based on something i didn't actually even do.

Sorian is a good player, allegedly. I've seen him town hooker scum to victory but that's also up to town being morons. I've also seen him throw games in lylo for stupid ass reasons that... well, also involved lynching me for nonreasons. Sooo... not only can he not read me when I'm not in his team, but i also have firsthand experience of him pushing stupid bullshit as scum.

2. I believe squid is the cop and want to lynch for bad play.

Not terrible, honestly. I don't think he is but lynching for bad play is a good tactic. Especially when conversation is on how can we be better town.

3. I believe squid isn't the cop but want to throw light shade to lynch him over an inactive

... For why?? Lynch the inactive, duh, who gives a fuck



Those are basically the scenarios. What is Sorian pushing as a competent player? He's pushing 1. Why? As town? No reason. As scum? Pushing for roles.

I'll tackle this one now since it's bigger. First off, no, 1 is still the wrong answer. 3 is and "who gives a fuck" well, who is going to do a better job of solving the game, an active player or an inactive one? The shade against a wrong move in lylo in another game doesn't mean much, of course you think it was nonreasons because they happened to be wrong. Pretending that translates to here isn't doing you any favors.

 

[Nomad Sparkster]

Unvote: No Lynch

Vote: Sorian

Did I do right now?

 

[El Topo]

Ah, I misremembered something. Sorry. Bolded is the error, which makes the stance on no lynch seem more reasonable. Apologies.

Posts:
-Talks about squidy, but refuses to analyse the behavior, instead focuses on Faddy.
-Justifies the reference to Faddy by referring to earlier game.
-Says he has never correctly read Kyan.
-Complains about sarcasm, takes a non-commital stance lynching inactives.
-Complains about Nomadic.
-Says he has no real reads, but would be okay with lynching fep.
-Briefly justifies why he chooses fep over Faddy to cabot.
-Non-commital stance on reads. Just his gut right now.
-Asks fep which question he never answered.
-Defends fep choice to cabot. Argues it feels they are trying to police the game.
-Mentions the shade thrown at the no lynch people.
-Now perfectly willing to lynch anyone suggesting no lynch.
-Votes for Nomadic, refers to me.

Not sure if I missed a post. A lot of non-commital talk, jumping between ideas, then later voting for someone they never mentioned by referring to someone else. Could, not unreasonably so, be just confirmation bias of mine, but I wanted to bring it up, give an overview of his posts and justify my vote.

VOTE: CCS

 

[Faddy]

Unvote: No Lynch

Vote: Sorian

Did I do right now?

Ouro is manually counting I think. So mistakes are on him.

 

[Hecht]

Nomadic has 2 votes as well

whoops. my script requires the same case and name for everything. that name change threw me off, one sec.

 

[Hecht]

CCS (2)
Faddy
El Topo

nin1000 (0)
cabot
El Topo

Sorian (3)
squidyj
El Topo
heymonkey
flatearthpandas
Karkador
Nomad Sparkster

El Topo (0)
Sorian

BiscuitFreak69 (1)
flatearthpandas
Dusk Soldier

Blargonaut (0)
kyanrute

Faddy (0)
flatearthpandas
heymonkey

flatearthpandas (1)
Blargonaut
Sorian

Karkador (1)
cabot
squidyj

No Lynch (1)
Karkador
Blargonaut
BiscuitFreak69
Nomad Sparkster

Bronx-Man (1)
nin1000

Kawl (3)
heymonkey
Blargonaut
squidyj

Nomad Sparkster (1)
CCS

 

[nin1000]

As expected, nomadic jumping from no lynch to a lynch candidate. That move is as bad as his posts in my eyes. Still undecided who to go for.

 

[heymonkey]

Hmm, I find the CCS vote interesting and I wonder if Faddy will switch off if CCS gains traction. That said, I'd prefer to vote Faddy of the two, but I'm not convinced either is scum.

My choice of Kawl over Bronx is that in games I've spectated, I've seen Kawl repeatedly just not turn up much. It may be day 3 before we get a good reason on him.

I like the Sorian vote and I feel like the people on it are more likely to be town, but that also makes it awfully safe and too much of it is based in meta besides (I know, I know, I just talked about meta).

Hmm.

 

[flatearthpandas]

I'll tackle this one now since it's bigger. First off, no, 1 is still the wrong answer. 3 is and "who gives a fuck" well, who is going to do a better job of solving the game, an active player or an inactive one? The shade against a wrong move in lylo in another game doesn't mean much, of course you think it was nonreasons because they happened to be wrong. Pretending that translates to here isn't doing you any favors.

3 is the answer, huh.

I think squid isn't the cop but am trying to lynch him while actively voting someone else, not talking about him, etc. How many toothpicks did i just drop? Did Caesar really live here?

 

[nin1000]

I will follow el topo with my vote. It seems that his way of looking at ccs makes the most sense out of all the candidates. Vote: CCS

 

[Faddy]

Hmm, I find the CCS vote interesting and I wonder if Faddy will switch off if CCS gains traction. That said, I'd prefer to vote Faddy of the two, but I'm not convinced either is scum.

My choice of Kawl over Bronx is that in games I've spectated, I've seen Kawl repeatedly just not turn up much. It may be day 3 before we get a good reason on him.

I like the Sorian vote and I feel like the people on it are more likely to be town, but that also makes it awfully safe and too much of it is based in meta besides (I know, I know, I just talked about meta).

Hmm.

You know vote policing makes you look scummy af

 

[Sorian]

I don't like that Faddy is on the vote too but CCS actually feels like a valid and useful vote unlike Kawl and I'm clearly not voting for myself.

VOTE: CCS

Take a 3-way, I'm not waiting for minutes before to self-pres.

 

[Sorian]

Or not a 3-way if nin votes too, now my joke doesn't work.

 

[El Topo]

....it's never a good sign if people follow me.

 

[Faddy]

I don't like that Faddy is on the vote too but CCS actually feels like a valid and useful vote unlike Kawl and I'm clearly not voting for myself.

VOTE: CCS

Take a 3-way, I'm not waiting for minutes before to self-pres.

If it makes you feel better my vote is completely random.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

That would, I think, be Kawl or Bronx, since Kevyt is being replaced. I have them each at one post, maybe two if I missed one. Then there's "activity," which can be measured all sorts of ways.

If it's between the two of them, Kawl makes the most sense right now.

vote:Kawl

 

[BiscuitFreak69]

Kawl, ccs or sorian. Tough choice

I'm not drawn to any of these three in particular. I see what people are saying about Sorian but I think they are being premature. Like really premature. People are right that CCS is inconsistent and scattered brained but outside of being able to make the case, none of it seems to add up to scum for me. Kawl, I think is the one of the three that I am most comfortable lynching.

Vote: Kawl

 

[nin1000]

Whoever dies tonight, at least it was an interesting day phase. Finally people give their insights on why they want to see someone go

 

[Hecht]

CCS (4)
Faddy
El Topo
nin1000
Sorian

nin1000 (0)
cabot
El Topo

Sorian (3)
squidyj
El Topo
heymonkey
flatearthpandas
Karkador
Nomad Sparkster

El Topo (0)
Sorian

BiscuitFreak69 (0)
flatearthpandas
Dusk Soldier

Blargonaut (0)
kyanrute

Faddy (0)
flatearthpandas
heymonkey

flatearthpandas (0)
Blargonaut
Sorian

Karkador (1)
cabot
squidyj

No Lynch (0)
Karkador
Blargonaut
BiscuitFreak69
Nomad Sparkster

Bronx-Man (0)
nin1000

Kawl (5)
heymonkey
Blargonaut
squidyj
Dusk Soldier
BiscuitFreak69

Nomad Sparkster (1)
CCS