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Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
Retro you gotta increase the text contrast for the Dark themes, that grey doesn't do any favours to my reading ability jeez
 

cabot

Why.
By having an early guideline on how players behave/interact, even if these are just brief ideas (as my post was not particularly detailed either) we hamper the ability of scum to frame the narrative and control the flow of the game. If we just have players post randomly on D1 we give them a plethora of excuses and ways to frame their behavior in a certain way.

Don't think this will go anywhere considering who's playing, whats your plan if someone disregards your idea of trying to play to sensible guidelines?

Lynch?
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Squidy has done this exact thing before.

He claimed cop, turned out it was a cop in fluff.
Yep, he did it in-
Monkey, were you in Anime?
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It was my first game. I got lynched day2 for being shifty which apparently is just how I play, we've learned, I guess. Sigh. You know. But it was such a weird move that it stuck out in my head as I watched that game play out and it's why I pointed it out here, too. A cop claim, even a casual one, a softclaim, a joke claim, whatever, is always going to steer conversation. Not all of it. But it will be there, lurking. And if it's true, why out self as a PR d1, first post?

Are you telling the Doctor to protect squidy or not? You say he didn't play to town's interests but then you say we should keep him alive because he knows about Town's best interests.
Neither, I'm sorry. That post was very ill-worded. I'm saying it puts the doctor, if we have one, in a bad position. They now have to add "do I protect Squidy?" to any other questions of whom to cover tonight and have to spiral trying to weigh his claim against anything else going on in the game. Just as everyone has has to be all - do we trust him? Do we weigh his words against other actions? It forces something immediate and potentially artificial. Maybe there's a method there. But I'm thinking back to anime and wondering if it helped or if it distracted.
 

cabot

Why.
We shouldn't trust anyone right now, but squidy has done stuff like this before to bait reactions and such. Anime was one, Archer was another. The man knows how to play for reactions.

I don't have a reason to suspect this is non-town squidy currently.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
What's the point of your homework assignment Faddy, what does trying to think why a moderator chose his player list achieve exactly?


Why did you answer the most dubious thread of thought first, Monkey.


Some doctor you are.

In any movie/book/tv show I have ever read the first thing people do when they have been sequestered somewhere is look for some sort of identifying link.

I personally think I am here because I play a very open game and am not adverse to openly building alliances rather than just relying on slight coercion. Also because I screwed up the end of Arkham which was pretty bad (still screw you Bronx).
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Why did you answer the most dubious thread of thought first, Monkey.
Not a doctor. And that was, for me, the easiest to speak to of the three threads I wanted to address before lunch, so it came first. Why are you so concerned with the order of my posts? Does it matter in the grand scheme?
 

El Topo

Spanish for "The Topo"
"I think people should produce content. I can't tell you what it is, nor can I elaborate on it, but it is important that we focus on it."

I'm surprised you wrote that with a straight face, let alone the other nonsense.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
In any movie/book/tv show I have ever read the first thing people do when they have been sequestered somewhere is look for some sort of identifying link.

I personally think I am here because I play a very open game and am not adverse to openly building alliances rather than just relying on slight coercion. Also because I screwed up the end of Arkham which was pretty bad (still screw you Bronx).

...

i have found it

YES

We all are unified in our hate (cuz he is a SK or some other neutral anyway) towards Bronx.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Yeah, you produce you. I can tell you what to say but if you do not know how to speak for yourself, it is not a good look for sure.
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
In old oral storytelling where tales are passed from generation to generation by recital from memory, there are pieces often told accompanied by a group dance. The physical aspect of the dance's steps in lock of correspondence with the point-by-point progression of the story's recital, helps to identify errors in its telling; if one steps out of line according to their own memory of the story, the error is noted by the others and that individual is corrected, thereby ensuring the proper version is preserved among participants
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
contribution is the public displaying of your Role card's information; your Role Name, Alignment and/or Power(s)

If you really wanted to contribute, you'd accept this definition.
 

flatearthpandas

Round Moon Bears
No. If we do it we do it today. Someone always argues they have better reads than inactivity on later days

Why are you so interested in protecting inactives anyway? Seems like very anti-town behaviour to stopped us lynching against one of the most common and most successful Scum tactics.
Because I'm inactive! You caught me!

Fuck, we all got pulled for this game because we're deductive geniuses! I've solved the case!

On that note, we all know d1 reads are shit. But can we not pretend we legitimately can't tell the difference between contributing and shitposting or wasting time
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
And further from that definition, discussion leading up to solution (in this case, finding out who's Mafia) is only possible when you "contribute" accordingly
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Because I'm inactive! You caught me!

Fuck, we all got pulled for this game because we're deductive geniuses! I've solved the case!

On that note, we all know d1 reads are shit. But can we not pretend we legitimately can't tell the difference between contributing and shitposting or wasting time

If day 1 reads are all shit then why is using a defined metric like number of posts such a bad idea.
 

CCS

Common Community Scum
Because I'm inactive! You caught me!

Fuck, we all got pulled for this game because we're deductive geniuses! I've solved the case!

On that note, we all know d1 reads are shit. But can we not pretend we legitimately can't tell the difference between contributing and shitposting or wasting time

Sarcasm is not wildly helpful.

I'm not against lynching inactives, but every game I've played the consensus has been against doing so and thus I'd prefer not to waste time on it.
 

cabot

Why.
In any movie/book/tv show I have ever read the first thing people do when they have been sequestered somewhere is look for some sort of identifying link.

I personally think I am here because I play a very open game and am not adverse to openly building alliances rather than just relying on slight coercion. Also because I screwed up the end of Arkham which was pretty bad (still screw you Bronx).


And we'll never know whether that is the real reason you were chosen in this game because the moderator doesn't offer the thoughts.


Again, why does this help in the general goal of hunting the scum?
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
I found a centipede in the bathroom a few days ago and tried to kill it with a broom but it crawled into the bristles and I never saw it again
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
And we'll never know whether that is the real reason you were chosen in this game because the moderator doesn't offer the thoughts.


Again, why does this help in the general goal of hunting the scum?

Does it hinder hunting scum?

Why are you being so precious about giving a reason for being picked for this game?
 

flatearthpandas

Round Moon Bears
If day 1 reads are all shit then why is using a defined metric like number of posts such a bad idea.
Because then you can do nothing but shitpost without fear of lynch.

Contributing means convince me you're trying even if d1 is hard. Looking back at d1 is enlightening later in the game. Not so if we're just lynching least posts. What a stupid fucking idea. And it's not even what squid actually suggested.

Vote: Faddy
 

cabot

Why.
who's the hiding centipede in this game!?
Does it hinder hunting scum?

Why are you being so precious about giving a reason for being picked for this game?

It does actually.

Easy topic to jump to if you're scum and isn't in your best interests to hunt scum.



I clearly feel your path of thought is pointless, so why should I indulge you
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
who's the hiding centipede in this game!?


It does actually.

Easy topic to jump to if you're scum and isn't in your best interests to hunt scum.



I clearly feel your path of thought is pointless, so why should I indulge you

Well you clearly are indulging me. If you really didn't care you could just ignore the suggestion altogether.
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
Because then you can do nothing but shitpost without fear of lynch.

"Contributing means convince me you're trying even if d1 is hard." Looking back at d1 is enlightening later in the game. Not so if we're just lynching least posts. What a stupid fucking idea. And it's not even what squid actually suggested.

Vote: Faddy
4/10
 

cabot

Why.
Well you clearly are indulging me. If you really didn't care you could just ignore the suggestion altogether.

I do care, because this isn't something I would expect a Town player to focus on.


Indulging you is giving you what you want, I've questioned it instead.


Glad to see Feps is as friendly as always.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
By discussing the thing, is one indulging the thing?
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Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I do care, because this isn't something I would expect a Town player to focus on.


Indulging you is giving you what you want, I've questioned it instead.


Glad to see Feps is as friendly as always.

So you claimed I was using a conversation starter as a deflection tactic yet instead of either answering and moving on or simply ignoring it, you have turned it into a thing to get sidetracked by. Have I fallen into your trap of distracting me?
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
and anyway cabot had already answered in such a way to negate the whole line of thought emoji anyway so just fuck me generally.

I do not think it is particularly fruitful to focus on why we were picked, no. It probably won't reveal much if anything. But I do think it's a natural question and not necessarily alignment indicative. I wonder what pushing against that so much will yield. Would a scumFaddy buckle so quickly over this kind of question? Will the questioning yield any more than the original question?
 

flatearthpandas

Round Moon Bears
Sarcasm is not wildly helpful.
You say you can read faddy well. What serious answer could he be legitimate expecting? I literally already explained my position in the post Faddy was responding. His response was s "hot take".

Detracting from the conversation is worse than posting nothing at all.

Or

Not posting is preferable to stupid bullshit.

Or

I will vote shitposts over inactives.

Or

Until i find scum, my vote stays on stupid.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Hey fep how about no one posts anything and we pick lynches via random.org.

Actually that might be more successful than recent town plays but it would be far less fun.
 

flatearthpandas

Round Moon Bears
Or we can just vote whoever has the least amount of time every phase with no consideration for content!

Lol.

Anyway, my vote criteria is clear i think.

Cabot, you always said my welcoming personality is what won you over
 

cabot

Why.
So you claimed I was using a conversation starter as a deflection tactic yet instead of either answering and moving on or simply ignoring it, you have turned it into a thing to get sidetracked by. Have I fallen into your trap of distracting me?

1. I said it was a pointless discussion because it's based on nothing more than conjecture, nothing based from the game itself.
2. Considering you wanted other people to do it, offering my thoughts on why this is pointless is relevant
3. It's been about 15 hours and there are people yet to post, I've also covered some other folk in the thread so far.
 

cabot

Why.
Or we can just vote whoever has the least amount of time every phase with no consideration for content!

Lol.

Anyway, my vote criteria is clear i think.

Cabot, you always said my welcoming personality is what won you over

is Faddy scum based on your thoughts?
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on an emote of fuss suspended in a white screen.

That emote is a very small sage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a thought. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planning is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

That emote is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment that emote is where we understand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pasted yellow dot, the only home we've ever known.
 

flatearthpandas

Round Moon Bears
is Faddy scum based on your thoughts?
Yes. Pushing anti-town agenda while town is still in discussion about how to approach the game. On post-to-post basis, IIRC, Faddy posts a bunch of shit but can be insightful. So the only player non-ironically arguing for bad town play right now imo.
 

karkador

Board Game King
We only have an hour and 6 days to pick our target today, and we've not even gotten the day 1 formalities out of the way. Not sure this is gonna happen
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Blarg, you are my favorite.

So, listen. I think it's actually pretty simple in this case. We are here because Ouro, Self-Appointed Mafia God of Being Forever Right, doesn't like something about how we play. Maybe a one-off thing, maybe a regular thing, who knows, it's all his whim. So Ouro, Self-Appointed Mafia God of Being Forever Right, wants to learn us.

Let's rebel and just do the damn thing harder. BLARG, DEPLOY THE GIFS.
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
Blarg, you are my favorite.

So, listen. I think it's actually pretty simple in this case. We are here because Ouro, Self-Appointed Mafia God of Being Forever Right, doesn't like something about how we play. Maybe a one-off thing, maybe a regular thing, who knows, it's all his whim. So Ouro, Self-Appointed Mafia God of Being Forever Right, wants to learn us.

Let's rebel and just do the damn thing harder. BLARG, DEPLOY THE GIFS.
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heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
oh for fuck's sake, if we're stress-testing this forum, either the forum is a failure or I am. probably me. half my post count is going to be me swearing over something not going right.
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
Kark if you could post that logo PNG in this thread that would be really helpful I'd appreciate it, it'd be really convenient for me thanks
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Took a nap, woke up and see that there have been 'contributions'. I thanks Blarg I appreciate your hard work in that regard.
You may aswell leave now. I am here and will take over
 

El Topo

Spanish for "The Topo"
I once travelled to China on a journey of self discovery. It was a long and tedious adventure, full of unbelievable dangers and wonders beyond the human mind. There on a mountaintop a wise man who had been meditating for years, gave me a piece of his ancient wisdom: "When in doubt, vote nin."

VOTE: nin1000
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
I once travelled to China on a journey of self discovery. It was a long and tedious adventure, full of unbelievable dangers and wonders beyond the human mind. There on a mountaintop a wise man who had been meditating for years, gave me a piece of his ancient wisdom: "When in doubt, vote nin."

VOTE: nin1000

That's a good quote, i thought Nietzsche said that.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
So town snipes at each other because town is active and suspicious, maybe a scum gets in there to guide sniping/look townie, we kill each other off slowly while others hang back, the cycle continues, etc.
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
So town snipes at each other because town is active and suspicious, maybe a scum gets in there to guide sniping/look townie, we kill each other off slowly while others hang back, the cycle continues, etc.

Just like in dark souls ye ?

but for real now, never take a "He is town" for real.
 

squidyj

Son of Yn
Vote: Karkador honestly the scummiest scum that ever scummed.

Sarcasm is not wildly helpful.

I'm not against lynching inactives, but every game I've played the consensus has been against doing so and thus I'd prefer not to waste time on it.

which games have you played where town excelled?



As for my cop claim, consider it a sanity check and a lot of you came off looking very.... sicilian.
 

squidyj

Son of Yn
Oh right I almost forgot. Sorian, I asked you to talk to me about blargonaut and you have not done so. Are you ducking the conversation?
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Vote: Karkador honestly the scummiest scum that ever scummed.



which games have you played where town excelled?



As for my cop claim, consider it a sanity check and a lot of you came off looking very.... sicilian.

Claiming Cop is a perfectly valid strategy.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member

So if we believe him, we should lynch him? The gambit would be if he was lying about it. Claiming early and being truthful isn't a gambit, it's just dumb.

I'm thinking "Why am I here?" and indeed why are we all here. I know some people have a rep or are regarded as strong players or are particularly active but I look down the list and see no one profile of characteristics I can think of that has brought us together as a collective.

So homework. Everyone should give a reason why they think they have been chosen by Ouro.

This is extremely stupid. We're all clearly here because Ouro either finds enjoyment playing with us or hates it so much that he wants to push some suffering on the others.

What I want to know from people on D1 is an impression on who they are, what they consider important, how they want to approach the game. Things that we can hold them accountable for later in the game.

This is dumb too but less so than Faddy's. This isn't a game with new people. We all at least know of each other if not have directly played with each other before. This reeks of giving people an excuse to post without having to do much. I think the only positive is that no one really took the opportunity.

1. From my experience, D1 contributions are historically unreliable as evidence (compared to the rest of the posts), with few extremely obvious counterexamples (such as D1 BS claims).
2. Framing the idea of giving other players an idea on who they are dealing with as "tactics" is odd.
3. It is precisely when we, as Town, have no information, that we should want players to give us an impression on who they are.
4. On the one hand you want people not to "be locked into tactics on day 1", on the other hand you people to read out inconsistencies.

By having an early guideline on how players behave/interact, even if these are just brief ideas (as my post was not particularly detailed either) we hamper the ability of scum to frame the narrative and control the flow of the game. If we just have players post randomly on D1 we give them a plethora of excuses and ways to frame their behavior in a certain way.

Yes, I know, we've done this whole song and dance before on point 1. Day 1 still has important notes if you actually pay attention. Scum has to get their footing somehow and they don't always blend in perfectly right from the start.

VOTE: No Lynch

Ah yes, there it is. If nothing else, I'll actually town read this since I've now seen first hand how mortified you are to be yourself when you're scum.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
VOTE: flatearthpandas

Your reaction to Squidy's "claim" seems the most suspicious (followed closely by Faddy's homework assignment). I don't think you actually believe he is a cop either so it's not exactly chomping at the bit trying to lynch a cop in broad daylight but I do think you see an easy reversal using his own words against him even if your logic doesn't make sense.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
This is extremely stupid. We're all clearly here because Ouro either finds enjoyment playing with us or hates it so much that he wants to push some suffering on the others.

So Sorian does Ouro enjoy playing with you or hate you?

Could you please separate the players in this game into those 2 categories. Thanks.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
So Sorian does Ouro enjoy playing with you or hate you?

Could you please separate the players in this game into those 2 categories. Thanks.

Well, he certainly sends me a lot of rage mail whenever I'm still alive in a game and he's died.

But no, I can't and I don't care to because it tells me nothing about alignment.
 
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