Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
It had a phase with boats and Faddy and I were both scum together.
Scum Thread The Evil Bears Suite
- Thread starter The Bear
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1. I considered asking if the Kitsunelaine/Sorian fight seemed forced to anyone else, to try to shade a bit, but decided against it. Too early. Sorian is and will always be kind of a wild card, but for now I don't really feel too bad letting Sorian live.
2. Monkey is enh. She's posting and active, which is normal. Stuart, OTOH, might have to go...
3. Sorian's response to my post about actually getting turboed was funny. For half a second I was thinking "oh man, I wonder if the doctor comment is a breadcrumb".
2. Monkey is enh. She's posting and active, which is normal. Stuart, OTOH, might have to go...
3. Sorian's response to my post about actually getting turboed was funny. For half a second I was thinking "oh man, I wonder if the doctor comment is a breadcrumb".
I'm trying to make sure I consider both players in a boat also. Like Sorian is Sorian, but I'm not super familiar with B-Dubs to know if he's a threat. Monkey and Stuart, otoh, are both strong players.
Geno and Sparks being together on a team is kind of funny. Depends a bit on where Geno decides to tunnel though.
Ya know. TheChuggernaut might have to die. Like, couple games we've been in together, he's always managed to find at least one scum.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
B-Dubs is a great partner to Sorian because he feels so lynchable. Coming into the post with a huge defence with zero solving was so scummy :D
Hope all goes well with your dog!
I've seen Fantomas also mention finding Natiko being scummy so that'll be a thing to look out for.
Hope all goes well with your dog!
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
There's not much happening in the first few pages @CoolestSpot :P
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
This is my penance for my back to back scum wins.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Let's just make sure people channel that towards Sorian and Monkey instead, those two are clearly scum.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
An ISO is an ISO, doesn’t matter if he has five or five hundred :P
I can't tell if it worth reading back, or if it's all filler at the moment
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Oh that’s just me being lazy tonight lol
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
That’s okay, I’ll make it through a couple phases at least. No reason to worry yet.
There’s 0% chance that was a breadcrumb on Monkey’s part - she’s pretty strongly against them. Vere I could see leaving a hint, but since he was directly responding to her verbiage I’m skeptical.They wanna watch you Nat
watch
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
She has been lamenting how much more common they are in our community now lol
That’s true though, I feel like this is normal for me lately. I think it’s bevause I have a pretty mediocre town game so it becomes easy to start scum reading me in general.
That’s true though, I feel like this is normal for me lately. I think it’s bevause I have a pretty mediocre town game so it becomes easy to start scum reading me in general.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Dr. Stu is leading 5-3 and 2/3 votes on you are from scum lol I'd rather push you instead of piling on Dr. Stu and risking people picking up on the "this lynch is too easy" narrative. Plus it leads to the possibility that it can distance your boat and mine while also tying me to kits AND monkey.
So is world on fire yet
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Yea
I expected to wake up to 5+ new pages, so I guess it's not on fire just yet.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
The night was surprisingly quiet
Where are you man (in the context of the thread)? lol you're gonna eventually catch some flack if you're this silent.
I'm putting in a big vague read on boats, but I don't want to go too crazy with posting. I think it would look a little suspicious since I'm usually a bit more quiet.
Do we want to decide on a fake role? Just go vanilla? The risk there is being seen moving after (or before) we use our Ninja shot.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
My stuff in bolded
Kalor/Kitsunelaine - Kitsunelaine had the ongoing back and forth with both Sorian and Stuart. I read town on Kitsunelaine with nothing from Kalor. Putting stuff forward early the way she did seems a bit too risky, and it would be easy to brush off at least one of those discussions to stay more middling.
Agree about this one
Verelios/Apollo - Vere feels like town Vere, nothing from Apollo. Trying to remember if I've even played with Apollo?
Vere is null for me
Sorian/B-Dubs - B-Dubs defense feels more frantic than it probably is, and Sorian is Sorian. I feel like scum could have at least piled a couple votes into the meme train and then stuck. If it turns out Sorian gets voted out, they can just say "it was just a meme vote" or something and if not move the vote later. Might be worth looking there later.
Meh, so far nothing about this boat screams town to me. Dubs is defensive and Sorian is tunneling
Fran/Fandorin - Fran feels like town Fran to me. Good questions, solid hunting. Fandorin doesn't have a whole lot going, but I'm not exactly in a position to throw shade on him for it, I don't either.
Generally like Fandorin
Natiko/Terraforce - Natiko was in the thick of it for a bit, and Terraforce has/had some decent back and forth going. His recent posts (which I'm reading through search and not in-game somehow) are pretty strong. Town reading this pair atm.
Nat nullish, but I generally agree with Terra apart from me lol
Pirate Bae/Malus - Quiet pair. Worth keeping an eye on.
Null to ok
Dr. Monkey/Stuart444 - Somehow I always find myself town reading Dr. Monkey. I'm more null on Stuart, but not by too much. I know there's quite a bit of shade going their way, I can kind of see it, but mostly I think it's just people going after the more prolific players.
I don't feel comfortable reading Monkey this early, but Stu's aggression has felt a bit forced
Brazil/Fluxwavez - A way quieter boat than I'd kind of expect from either of them. Keeping an eye here as well.
Null, quiet
rac/Vincent Alexander - Another decently quiet boat. From his last post it sounds like Vincent Alexander isn't feeling great either, and rac feels like usual early game slightly scattered rac to me. Null to town for it, but thinking about it i'm not positive I've ever noticed scum!rac's early game.
Very null
Geno/Sparks - Sparks seems like his usual all over self; NAI. I don't like it, but it's NAI. Geno seems like town Geno to me. More measured, more careful than scum Geno as I remember.
Nullish, geno maybe a bit odd, but long since i've played with him
CoolestSpot/Z-Beat - Sorta like the last boat, Coolest is being Coolest. Maybe a little more out there than usual though. Not a whole lot from Z-Beat that jumps out after a quick search of posts, but according to him that's "mad common". Nothing for me to vote on, nothing to vote against though.
Nullish, don't really know Coolest's meta either
SkyOdin/TheChuggernaut - I'll admit, I laughed at TheChuggernaut's "Who wants to fight?" post. Not a whole lot of in depth stuff otherwise, from either of them, but their latest posts (via search) have felt stronger. Feels like slow going town to me.
Nullish ok, drunk posts can be a good cover lol
Xbro/Reki - One of the things that stood out is even questioning town reads of their boat (on Xbro's part at least). I know it's not uncommon or anything, but it made me lean town since it was early and kind of unprompted. That said, there's not a lot here to go off of. It's still early though, but I'm liking a few of Reki's posts (e.g.: paying attention in / learning via spec threads. I suck at that.)
Null
Stantastic/FEP - Not much from FEP, but stan is a null-to-town read to me. He was willing to put even incomplete thoughts down for all to see. It's not much, but it moves the needle a tiny bit.
Null
Zippedpinhead/Fantomas - Zipped has a single mechanical post that is bleh. Fanto has been pretty solid posts of poking and scum hunting, even if the early read post on Dr. Monkey didn't go over all that well. It did feel a little flimsy, and a little bit opportunistic, but I'd say everything since then has been solidly town.
Fanto seems normal to me so I like him
Kyanrute/Empressdonna - Kyan has a few decent posts, though I still don't see what he thinks Sorian's "two claims in one meme" post means. Empressdonna is a little more fluff posted, but at least on topic and responsive as much as fluff. Something to keep an eye on, but leaning just town of null.
Nullish ok
Kalor/Kitsunelaine - Kitsunelaine had the ongoing back and forth with both Sorian and Stuart. I read town on Kitsunelaine with nothing from Kalor. Putting stuff forward early the way she did seems a bit too risky, and it would be easy to brush off at least one of those discussions to stay more middling.
Agree about this one
Verelios/Apollo - Vere feels like town Vere, nothing from Apollo. Trying to remember if I've even played with Apollo?
Vere is null for me
Sorian/B-Dubs - B-Dubs defense feels more frantic than it probably is, and Sorian is Sorian. I feel like scum could have at least piled a couple votes into the meme train and then stuck. If it turns out Sorian gets voted out, they can just say "it was just a meme vote" or something and if not move the vote later. Might be worth looking there later.
Meh, so far nothing about this boat screams town to me. Dubs is defensive and Sorian is tunneling
Fran/Fandorin - Fran feels like town Fran to me. Good questions, solid hunting. Fandorin doesn't have a whole lot going, but I'm not exactly in a position to throw shade on him for it, I don't either.
Generally like Fandorin
Natiko/Terraforce - Natiko was in the thick of it for a bit, and Terraforce has/had some decent back and forth going. His recent posts (which I'm reading through search and not in-game somehow) are pretty strong. Town reading this pair atm.
Nat nullish, but I generally agree with Terra apart from me lol
Pirate Bae/Malus - Quiet pair. Worth keeping an eye on.
Null to ok
Dr. Monkey/Stuart444 - Somehow I always find myself town reading Dr. Monkey. I'm more null on Stuart, but not by too much. I know there's quite a bit of shade going their way, I can kind of see it, but mostly I think it's just people going after the more prolific players.
I don't feel comfortable reading Monkey this early, but Stu's aggression has felt a bit forced
Brazil/Fluxwavez - A way quieter boat than I'd kind of expect from either of them. Keeping an eye here as well.
Null, quiet
rac/Vincent Alexander - Another decently quiet boat. From his last post it sounds like Vincent Alexander isn't feeling great either, and rac feels like usual early game slightly scattered rac to me. Null to town for it, but thinking about it i'm not positive I've ever noticed scum!rac's early game.
Very null
Geno/Sparks - Sparks seems like his usual all over self; NAI. I don't like it, but it's NAI. Geno seems like town Geno to me. More measured, more careful than scum Geno as I remember.
Nullish, geno maybe a bit odd, but long since i've played with him
CoolestSpot/Z-Beat - Sorta like the last boat, Coolest is being Coolest. Maybe a little more out there than usual though. Not a whole lot from Z-Beat that jumps out after a quick search of posts, but according to him that's "mad common". Nothing for me to vote on, nothing to vote against though.
Nullish, don't really know Coolest's meta either
SkyOdin/TheChuggernaut - I'll admit, I laughed at TheChuggernaut's "Who wants to fight?" post. Not a whole lot of in depth stuff otherwise, from either of them, but their latest posts (via search) have felt stronger. Feels like slow going town to me.
Nullish ok, drunk posts can be a good cover lol
Xbro/Reki - One of the things that stood out is even questioning town reads of their boat (on Xbro's part at least). I know it's not uncommon or anything, but it made me lean town since it was early and kind of unprompted. That said, there's not a lot here to go off of. It's still early though, but I'm liking a few of Reki's posts (e.g.: paying attention in / learning via spec threads. I suck at that.)
Null
Stantastic/FEP - Not much from FEP, but stan is a null-to-town read to me. He was willing to put even incomplete thoughts down for all to see. It's not much, but it moves the needle a tiny bit.
Null
Zippedpinhead/Fantomas - Zipped has a single mechanical post that is bleh. Fanto has been pretty solid posts of poking and scum hunting, even if the early read post on Dr. Monkey didn't go over all that well. It did feel a little flimsy, and a little bit opportunistic, but I'd say everything since then has been solidly town.
Fanto seems normal to me so I like him
Kyanrute/Empressdonna - Kyan has a few decent posts, though I still don't see what he thinks Sorian's "two claims in one meme" post means. Empressdonna is a little more fluff posted, but at least on topic and responsive as much as fluff. Something to keep an eye on, but leaning just town of null.
Nullish ok
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Not sure really. I don't have a role in mind to claim that randomly doesn't move lol
Ninja feels like something we use fairly early on
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
More just creating distance. Enough people are wary of me that no one's going to start following me around willy nilly and when I eventually get voted out it'll make the surviving scum look better that I was pushing for you all.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
It’s just like that time in mafiera where I convinced him that I was a town cop.
Now I’m a mean cop. Also, cop gifs / breadcrumbs incoming
Z-beat
only here for the flavor
Or maplestreet where we planted a message on him early on and fireblend rode that to a win
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Am I doing a good job breadcrumbing
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
I think I got Sorian with the breadcrumb
We all agree we're leaving Geno alive, right?
For tonight at least, I mean.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Ya
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
We should kill kyan / Donna maybe
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Nah he doubled down.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Who should I check
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Yea tru
Malus my love come back
Malus my love come back
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
You think Monkey is a pr?
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Malus I made a post about your supposed feelings about Monkey and Stu in the thread, play along :). Hope that’s ok
malus
#1 official chartmaker
That were my feelings on Dr. Stu anyway, so your setup was perfect, lol.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
No, she’s convinced the pure wagon has a scum
We have about 6 hours until EoD. I'm hoping we can get enough votes moved off the top two trains today? I dunno, we obviously don't want to lose the Pirate Malus boat, but I think keeping Monkey/Stuart alive another day could be beneficial.
I kind of want to focus on the people on the list, if nothing else to see if we can get rid of some of them since they're all town. It does make me wonder if killing Dr. Monkey is worth it just to cause shade on that whole town list.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Main concern is just seeing if we can avoid a scum lynch today without any of us outing ourselves. I can only move off Bae if her train dwindles. I can't vote Dr. Stu at this point. I could vote Sorian, but it would be a bit weak. Can't vote kits either. It's going to come down to town and those of you that aren't as backed into a corner from your reads.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Speaking of, Fran just called out 3/4 scum boats without listing a single town boat. Whomp whomp.
man I should have caught up with the game thread before posting here. I didn't realize we were in a three way tie with 2 of the boats being scum. :-\ I mean, there's plenty of time for votes to move around so I'm not too, too worried, but still.
I'm kind of at a loss here. I didn't think the Ty train would gain so much steam so quickly. And it's not like I can just unvote at this point either. Better pray someone decides to turbo Dr. Stu or something, because this is getting really close real fast.
If you've made your case, that's probably your best bet. I don't think any of us should jump on Dr. Stu until closer to EoD (if at all). Kitsu seems fine though.
I also didn't realize one of the votes on pirate malus is my partner in crime, so we're safer than I thought. ABTy is really the only one in danger of being lynched, but that can easily change.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, so long as Bae doesn't jump to a runaway lead I'll swap to Ty if needed to create distance. Bae's role is more important to try and keep around honestly.
Yeah, we're one-shot so if someone has to eat bus bumper, it should be us.
Looking at the votes on us, Stan and XBro may still shift, and if at least one does it's easier for Terra to move also so I'm not super worried with 6 hours left to go.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Voting for Kalor
Leave Geno alive for sure, the man likes to lead group discussion but often does so in way that gets them killed
I want him to know I killed him if possible when it does happen.
I have debts to pay.
I have debts to pay.
no matter what, no one else should jump on the Kitsunelaine/Kalor train. i think three of us voting there in rapid succession is going to hurt.
Also heck you MafiEra for picking THIS FUCKING GAME to suddenly be like "These people are way too quiet and we need to vote for them". Heck you all to heck for it.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Might have to claim soon lol.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Should I do a soft claim?
Don't. If it comes down to I can vote Kitsunelaine to keep myself alive. I don't like having to do it, but I can.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
No, especially since we're already talking about the similarities to MafiEra. It won't be a good look this early and you'll definitely just get voted out for surviving in another phase or so. You can do it if it seems like you're doomed otherwise but I think it's more likely to fall on Ty than you.
Terra I was literally just about to search your posts for comments on brazil to see if that was a move that could be made. I don't know how much traction it will get, but it's hardly the worst swerve town has taken in a game of Mafia.
I'm going to try an Iso of Flux/Brazil and see if that helps my case at all. Maybe we can still save this.
I have been moving in that direction so it could work.... but he just showed up so those chances may be lost depending on how he reacts.
I dunno. The reaction isn't quite what I was hoping. There's not much in the way of defense on their part other than shade, but no steam picking up either. Looks like my third (fourth?) game rolling scum where I don't make it to D2.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
If we can make it to D2 I can claim I checked you with a red check and be Confirmed Town^tm
Worst case scenario tho
Worst case scenario tho
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I'm going to avoid shifting to Tybro I think, mainly because if people pay attention down the road if you both flip inevitably I'll be had for swapping to the weaker scum role. The formatting on my post is doo doo and long so hopefully it just gets glossed over.
It's going to come off as bitter, but Brazil and Flux have to die tonight. Not for revenge, but when I flip scum that's practically a green check on them.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Not if I’m one shot
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
@Terraforce i can’t follow votes right now but don’t switch to a random townie even if they raise up in votes unless you’ve laid the groundwork previously. If they talk themselves into a mislynch I honestly don’t want to be anywhere near it. No idea if they will or are, just saying
Do I self preservation vote?
My biggest mistake was getting caught up arguing with Brazil instead of ISOing FluxWaveZ like I intended to. I deserve death.
HOLY SHIT WE LIVE THANK YOU KYANRUTE
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
Always self pres. Townies are supposed to do it so it’s no harm as scum.
Anyway, what did I miss?