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did we already establish that Fanto’s character IS in HvV1? and it makes sense why he wasn’t infected.
in the narrative, Rick and Morty teleport into the battle, if I recall correctly, and the teleport back to their universe.
that’s why he was never infected. they left before Wesker infected them
 

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Sorry everyone, like I just said in the thread, I need to ask for a replacement. :(

Someone else will be taking over this account soon and will be in here with you all. I'll remove my avatar and then log out.

I LOVE YOU ALL MY ILLUMINATI FRIENDS! YOU ARE GOING TO WIN THIS TOGETHER!
 

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did we already establish that Fanto’s character IS in HvV1? and it makes sense why he wasn’t infected.
in the narrative, Rick and Morty teleport into the battle, if I recall correctly, and the teleport back to their universe.
that’s why he was never infected. they left before Wesker infected them
Man, you remember that plot too well lol

Fantomas said “I wasn’t one of the playable characters, at least” IIRC, so maybe he didn’t read all flavor posts.
 

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I'm going to miss you Fanto ;-; I got excited when you claimed in here because I thought we were going to have a lot of fun (and make this thread hella long).

Good luck with everything.
 

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I guess we'll at least know who our new member is once Fanto gets replaced, though I hope they put on an avatar so I can tell them and Numbah 2 apart.
 

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Based on the replacement list, looks like it'll be Zeke unless he can't in which case it'll be Stan.
 

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Thanks Fando for making a better argument against Mao than I did. I sometimes have a hard time putting my words together.
 

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Based on the replacement list, looks like it'll be Zeke unless he can't in which case it'll be Stan.
Oh, forgot those were posted lol
Zeke and Stan would be pretty cool. Stan would get grumpy for having two threads to catch up though lol
Thanks Fando for making a better argument against Mao than I did. I sometimes have a hard time putting my words together.
Not at all, I feel the same constantly and you can convey perfectly what you’re thinking, it’s just you’re contained a bit I think.
 

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I didn’t really care about Mao giga post, though it’s at least pretty to look at. Well, his quick read on Neon is interesting I think. I agree there.
 

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Oh, forgot those were posted lol
Zeke and Stan would be pretty cool. Stan would get grumpy for having two threads to catch up though lol

Not at all, I feel the same constantly and you can convey perfectly what you’re thinking, it’s just you’re contained a bit I think.

Yeah Zeke or Stan would be good for the team I feel, it'll just be really different from Fanto. XD

Yeah I really need to work on my poss. XD
 

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I don't appreciated that Neon focused hard on me (Seriously he shot at me twice like right away!) but yeah that doesn't make him scum automatically.
 

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I found mildly funny that Mao is scum reading you when you have been against him for a while now. XD
 

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(Stealing your list here loki)

KITSUNELAINE
TEARABLEPUNS
AELEUS
KETKAT
BRAZIL

Kitsu: Don’t really buy her claim. Bit too safe for my tastes and, considering she was clearly on the chopping block when thunderdome started, she had a reason to lie and divert attention. Will reread to confirm, but scum lean.

TP: Overall ok feelings, but he settled on a Muffin (?) vote on D2 and didn’t really consider either Swamped or Aeleus. Sheeped Cat on some of those takes too, I think, which is something to consider. I mistrust LP more right now though and I’d be shocked if they are a team.

Aeleus: Most likely town at this point, barring weird shenanigans at this phase I guess.

Ketkat: I think our little chat helps a lot, but I’m pretty cool with my town lean on Ket. Been a while since I last played for real with her, but I’m creating parallels with her at Monopoly mafia, in which she was very townie.

Brazil: Meh. He’s pretty townie. Wish he’d share more of his reads though.

Could vote today: Kits or TP.
Other suspects, going from most to least:Kalor, Mao, LP, Vincent and Sorian.
 

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I don't appreciated that Neon focused hard on me (Seriously he shot at me twice like right away!) but yeah that doesn't make him scum automatically.
Yeah, Neon and Stuart shooting you first like that seriously set off some alarms for me. Why would they do that? Stuart in special since he also tunneled on Cat who is generally town read.
 

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Stuarts actions were weird but yeah Neon was gunning for me for a bit there. I mean I also targeted Kalor before focusing on Davy, but that was because of my check and it'd help breadcrumb my claim later. I'm honestly surprised Kalor wasn't suspicious of it. XD
 

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Today has been really weird, most of the discussion has been on other stuff mostly because everyone seems to be wanting to vote Puns or Kits. I think they are the reasonable choices out of the candidates with Kits as def the most suspicious.

Kits is also pulling the "When i flip town" card which is such a common tactic it's silly. I was just talking about it earlier today with Mao because of his weak argument for Swamped.

Duh you get info from flips based on who was against them, but using that as your only reason is not enough.
 

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she also voted for OJ D1 and then Aeleus instead of Swamped D2. could be a coincidence but could also be scum killing town and trying to myslunch a player the next day
 

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Guys, aside from Fantomas / Zeke who got infected by AB it seems, I’m thinking we shouldn’t share we are infected. If this role works like Wesker did on HvV1 then we would be helping him by declaring we already have the virus.
 

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I knew Snake was infected because he was in the first game LOL I even said it to you Numbah 2!

Also Welcome Zeke! I'm excited to start working with you instead of being on opposing sides this time LOL. XD
 

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Guys, aside from Fantomas / Zeke who got infected by AB it seems, I’m thinking we shouldn’t share we are infected. If this role works like Wesker did on HvV1 then we would be helping him by declaring we already have the virus.
Agree with this completely, no one needs to know we were infected unless it comes up on our pm upon death.
 

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Based on what we know in here, I'm still not sure the virus spreads organically as Fanto got infected the night ABs stole from muffin and Muffin got infected last night. Additionally Kalor hasn't come forward as infected either.

So at this point I think the infection is spread through an ability and through the original NPCs from the first game having it.

Now the reason Kalor hasn't come forward though is because he is keeping it secret or because he's scum he can't be.
 

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I'll leave it up to Zeke whether he reveals he got infected N1 to clear up some info, but it is definitely better we keep quiet.
 

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Well Las Plagas works differently I guess. I kind of consider it like a marker more than anything.

Also Numbah 2... Snake Was in the last game as an NPC so that means AB may be infected...
Here is that post where I said it :P
 

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Here is that post where I said it :P
i'm sorry again >.<


i did some flavor research from HvV1:
Flashback.
Saddler:We lost connection with Krauser.
Wesker:Fine, I'm going there myself.
Present.
(Every hero is tired from the battle).
???:What a nice happy ending you guys got here. Would be a shame if somebody were to ruin it. (Everybody turns back to see Albert Wesker).
Albert Wesker:Every single one of you is infected with the Las Plagas, and you are all going to be my puppets soon.
it looks like our Las Plagas user might be Saddler. he was never killed. and going back and reading everything, Snake was there during that battle. AB could very well be telling the truth. does Solid Snake ever turn into a bad guy in the game?
 

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i wanted to research it because funnily enough, AB's ability sounds like something Psycho Mantis would have. hearing people's thoughts could be the reason he gets multiple names when he steals an item. but he's no where to be seen in the narrative of HvV except only being on the poster lol
 

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So Illuminati are:

Me, fando, Loki and who else?

Hello, it's me Mystery Moustache.

It's possible that Kalor wasn't infected because he's the person who uses the infection, or something like that. He could also just be holding that information close to his chest right now, so I wouldn't be 100% sure that he isn't infected either
 

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messed up the formatting lol

do you think Aeleus and AB are town then?
do you believe Kits’ claim that she’s an alignment cop and she just so happened to check Kalor on the same night Loki did?
 

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It's possible that Kalor wasn't infected because he's the person who uses the infection, or something like that. He could also just be holding that information close to his chest right now, so I wouldn't be 100% sure that he isn't infected either

Valid point and something to keep in mind. Either way we need to try and get Kalor out next day phase.
 

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Also Zeke is it possible you could put an avatar on your account ._. Having a hard time telling you and Numbah 2 apart.
 

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wee is being pretty insistent about finding out who is infected, though in this case it makes sense since ABs visited Fanto.
 

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And Zeke if you don't want to do an avatar, you can just Truffle shuffle with every post as that'll help too. XD
 

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I’m TearablePuns.

I’m a Townie with a Mcguffin ability. @lokiduck

Ahhh, I finally had figured it out after this post:

For all we know, Stu or someone else had their finger on the trigger in case someone broke the tie. Plus, why would scum be the first to make that move? It’s way too suspicious

Since bolded is exactly what you said in here when we discussed that haha.

So Zeke and TP have a Mcguffin? Hmmmm.
 

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Yeah, and LP and Sorian have been hammering me all game. And Sorian’s switch of his vote on me is suspicious and i doubt he won’t switch back to me by day end.
I don’t know why people are cutting LP a slack, his vote record is terribad and he’s been coasting most of the time. He completely ignored a few posts from me as well.

Sorian too, but to a lesser extent.
 

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Zeke has a McGuffin? I know Loki does that’s why I tagged her.

I didn’t even realize I said that in this thread before. I thought it was in the game thread lol Looks like I revealed myself at the right time.
LP and Kits are performing almost the same kind of way to me. Very little evidence of stuff if any at all.
 

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The reason I chose to reveal myself now is obviously because I’m very likely to die.

But I wanted to not reveal myself because I wanted your impressions of me in terms of just how I performed in the game thread. And it was going well so far! Fanto town read me but Zeke didn’t? And I’m going to need all the help I can get if I want to survive this day so I needed him not to vote for me lol
Because I know LP will vote me, Sorian will probably go back to me and I didn’t want ketkat to by chance vote for me. I’m not sure how she felt about me and I didn’t want to risk her voting me either.

So here we are
 

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I may have killed a Town member, but at least I'm alive! And that means the leading trains were Town v Town, so pretty useless votes and bouncing around
 

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Also, I should note, that while I have an Infinity Stone, it has nothing to do with my actual character flavor. It is my only power, but it's had me worried that someone is out there lookign for them
 

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Sorry everyone for not being around at Day end I was really tired last night and since I couldn't vote anyways... I slept in lol. I promise to be more active during the night phase while we scum hunt.

I’m TearablePuns.

I’m a Townie with a Mcguffin ability. @lokiduck

Welcome officially Puns! That's neat you have a McGuffin too :o

Wait, I messed that up. Loki said she has a Mcguffin, not Fantomas.

That is correct. Like Ket I have an infinity stone actually, and it's how I was able to check Kalor. The reason I wasn't wanting to call my self a cop was because I didn't think the item was apart of my role lol and wasn't sure it'd show up on my pm when I died. I was worried people would think I was lying about the check if it didn't come up.

Let the record books show today was the day the Illuminati minus Loki stacked on Kits lol

I feel left out :o
 

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Also sorry Fando for not being around to answer your comment about Kits, i had said earlier my suspicions that Ket was maybe trying to pull a gambit partly off of my check to make herself look good in the TD and I guess I was wrong. :/ Part of me wondered if she really was town in a way... but if i had a vote I wouldn't have voted Puns or Ket in the end.
 

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So if the Multiball theory is correct there is another scum team and they are probably able to vote tonight. In that case who do you guys think could be on that other team? I guess I'd consider Kalor (do not believe his miller claim as not telling us ahead of time is very anti-town even if he is) but he's roleblocked tonight so whatever lol.
 

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So Puns, is the fact that I'm a member of the Illuminati why you said it sucked day 1 I was roleblocked? And why you have been believing I'm an Innocent Alignment cop all game? XD

And Ket was the Mind Stone what you were referring to when you said you might be able to take care of Kalor earlier?
 

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Anyways, since no one is around currently I'll go get lunch and come back afterwords. I feel like our scumhunting would work better if we divide up tasks? I definitely want to go over the votes a bit to see what happened during this phase, but I also want to look over again Kalor and Mao.
 

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So.... I have the time stone. Idk if it was posted in here or not.

Once in a game, I let a player retry an event in which they lose, unless they die in an event.

Event must be a public one.

Idk if this is important
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So three of us have infinity stones... interesting. Is that our real connection besides the infection?

The flavor at the beginning of the game says we are hunting for the stones, so I thought I would have to find the other ones while having mine (the soul stone BTW)
 

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So three of us have infinity stones... interesting. Is that our real connection besides the infection?

The flavor at the beginning of the game says we are hunting for the stones, so I thought I would have to find the other ones while having mine (the soul stone BTW)

I was wondering if that was our connection before hand, but I was a little worried that Thanos was peeking in here or something so I never said anything. And yes, this is what I meant with Kalor. I was hoping I could use my override to aim for someone outside of the thunderdome, but Geno said no :(
 

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I was wondering if that was our connection before hand, but I was a little worried that Thanos was peeking in here or something so I never said anything. And yes, this is what I meant with Kalor. I was hoping I could use my override to aim for someone outside of the thunderdome, but Geno said no :(
Awww okay that makes sense then.

And yeah i get the concern XD it's why I kept mine secret from you guys until it was time to explain my cop shot. XD I think though that Zeke and Puns should keep their's a secret for as long as possible. If someone is after the stones, they will know you and I have one (since I'm sure they'd figure out what my McGuffin must be) and may try and take it.
 

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I wonder if whoever would want the stones is the counter to this group, though since our stones can't be stolen or taken when we die, I wonder if whoever needs them is a neutral that needs all of us dead to meet their wincon.

If that's the case then they can't be a member of the group because that'd make it too easy for them.
 

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LOL just realized how I could show it as an image silly me.

pP2p5E1


Does this work?
 

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What I noticed:
-people who voted Ket usually stayed on her except for Faddy who ended up there in the end anyways.
-Everyone who voted Puns ended up leaving except for Kit and Mao, this was due to Kit and Ket being the main trains at the end of the day.
-Most voters stayed on Kits as well except for Neon who moved to Ket and Cat who went back to Kits at the end. Fanto's vote went away when he was replaced but Zeke voted for Kits anyways so I'm not considering that a change in vote. XD
-I guess no one is scum reading Aeleus and Brazil as apparently Chuggs was forced to vote Aeleus and Kits voted for Brazil but ended up on Puns.
 

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So Puns, is the fact that I'm a member of the Illuminati why you said it sucked day 1 I was roleblocked? And why you have been believing I'm an Innocent Alignment cop all game? XD

And Ket was the Mind Stone what you were referring to when you said you might be able to take care of Kalor earlier?
No, mostly because you were mod confirmed town and I had a feeling you had another ability besides just being an innocent child. Didn’t know it would be an infinity stone at all though lol
 

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And there’s only 5 of us and 6 infinity stones.
If Fandorin has one too than the other one scum might already have.

And Ketkat having a governor ability for her stone makes me town read her more. That’s too much of an OP role for scum.
 

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I was wondering if that was our connection before hand, but I was a little worried that Thanos was peeking in here or something so I never said anything. And yes, this is what I meant with Kalor. I was hoping I could use my override to aim for someone outside of the thunderdome, but Geno said no :(
Yeah that really sucks but hey you gotta save yourself.
I’ll have to do some digging on Brazil. I’m getting a weird feeling about him.
So help me god if him and Sorian are scum again this game I will never forgive Geno lol
 

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No, mostly because you were mod confirmed town and I had a feeling you had another ability besides just being an innocent child. Didn’t know it would be an infinity stone at all though lol

Lol okay, well congrats then because you were right about me being more than mod confirmed town (that's what my role is called in this game even though it's basically an IC role. XD

And there’s only 5 of us and 6 infinity stones.
If Fandorin has one too than the other one scum might already have.

And Ketkat having a governor ability for her stone makes me town read her more. That’s too much of an OP role for scum.

I agree that an Override is definitely more town.
 

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What's everyone's opinion on Malus? I'm currently looking over his posts (since he had the least out of my current suspects lol)
 

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Here are some of my reads, I'll be posting them in bursts as I complete them. Feel free to comment on anything.

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Malus: Day 1- Only opened a chest once we saw there could be empty ones. Said those that jumped in early are probably town since scum wouldn’t risk death (his own concern). Said he was feeling Oliver over Puns but voted Stu.

Day 2- During Poker told players not to wildcard their town reads. Questioned the whole till thing noting that Puns, Muffin, and Neon also use it. Didn’t want to vote Aeleus based on weak argument been “what facto said” and didn’t like the Swamped lunch either. Wanted to vote Faddy.

Day 3- Promised to make a graph, didn’t. Thins ABs isn’t scum with Swamped and Vere due to them voting him LOL. Thinks people are voting based on what Fanto votes. Correctly guessed Kits item would give her another shot (not important but funny) and wanted Zeke to explain Kanye shrug. Had the strongest scum read on TP after day 2 others were null reads. Votes Kits. Convinced there is another team that can kill on odd nights or a SK that can at least.

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Mao: Already said my peace about him on the first two days mostly in his connection to Swamped. He didn’t post much due to being busy in RL so no judgement there. Started day defending himself. Did a big post where he scum read Kalor (easy choice), null read LP, and Ket, Zipped (also easy), scum read TP (others were too). He also town read: Neon (?), me, ABs, Muffin, Chuggs, Faddy, Kits, and Aeleus (most of these have gotten decent reads). Voted Puns.

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Kalor: Day 1- Opened the last chest but never got a result because Apop won. He forgot the game started LOL. Mainly put forth the idea that only Sorian was RB’d due to red text. Thought Chuggs was a neutral. Said Stu was fine, Chuggs needs to vote but he understands, and Oliver was suspicious. Nearly won Blackjack. Felt good about Muffin based on a gut feeling. Prod Vote on Neon. Didn’t see the need to discuss me day 1. Post about it is where he supposedly breadcrumbed being a Miller (Weak Claim). Wondered why the talk about me even started. Thought Cat’s vote reasoning on Apop made sense. Voted Mao. After extension, didn’t want to lunch Stu. Didn’t get Swamped Train, voted Oliver based on earlier comment.

Day 2- Didn’t suspect Veer at all, congratulated his killer for figuring it out. Pointed out same time as Fran that Veer wasn’t listed as dead on voting tool. Felt good on Chuggs because Veer was interrogating him. Thinks scum can kill on odd nights via other methods. Willing to believe the Chuggs is controlled. Didn’t get Swamped wagon, was suspicious of VA for voting again based on what others were saying and leaning towards Aeleus for trying to get vote contenders to claim. Voted Aeleus. Wouldn’t vote Mao since suspicion was gut feeling. Voted OJ because he didn’t have time to look at EOD but wanted to move his vote to one of the main contenders. Fairly weak reasoning. Not sure what point of controlling Chuggs is. Not feeling Swamped train again and suspicious of Neon. Didn’t like either train because of how quickly they started and feels people are just lazily voting on it. Voted Muffin, didn’t like the Swamped train but hope he was wrong.

Day 3: Wanted to talk about the no kill night after the game. Doesn’t see Muffin faking Plagas claim since it was in first game. Shot me after I shot him, I killed him so he was roleblocked (still hyped about that). Complied with my request. Wary of Mao, Ket, Neon, and Puns. Voted Ket because of her end of day on day 2. Wanted to stick to the theory we have one scum team until he sees otherwise. Claimed Miller linking that one post as his breadcrumb. A weak claim over all. Claimed to be able to shoot during events has a 10% of it hitting. Tried to shoot Mao. Shot me during roulette out of defense. Doesn’t appear to be infected as far as we know. Not sure why no one is voting. Tried to shoot Mao because he didn’t have time to check thread and so he picked someone he was wary of. Suspicious of Kits for being a cop that claimed without checking the thread first to see if they had died. Believed my claim. Wanted to be shot during the night so town wouldn’t waste a mislynch.

Command for the shot is “Let’s light this place up” might hint towards his flavor?
 
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