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Maybe someone else kileld Wee and we have two deaths tonight.
 

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So Wee eas Jedah and we are really lucky that we didn't gave her the item. She was really OP with her ítem.

What the hell happened with Fando?
 

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Jesus christ, everything possible to not point out the illuminati connection.
 

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So Wee eas Jedah and we are really lucky that we didn't gave her the item. She was really OP with her ítem.

What the hell happened with Fando?

Her item would have been rebellion, didn't matter
 

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At least roleblocking Stu did work even if we are getting shit on with these stupid illuminati kills. Ket WAS illuminati too, we are never going to get their flips.
 

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I'm going to sit on Frostmourne for most of the day phase just in case, the hacker should know that I have it and I might need to prove it by sending it somewhere

I will

GIVE Dutch's Revolver: Apop

though since no one knows we have it now.
 

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Maybe Wee tried to kill Muffin and I protected him?

Or she might have saved it? It was her very first night with it and she probably assumed Stu was going to take a bullet for her (lol)

I wonder who our other killer is, clearly scum motivated since they went hot on the green check.
 

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Jesus christ

I have no way of knowing what was sent to me and what came from the kill, do I?
 

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It seems like Wee might have dumped a bunch of useless items to her on me as goodwill. I think both of these AND the revolver just came from her based on what Aeleus said lol
 

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Also fuck it

GIVE Rebellion: Apop

If that's not his item then fuck life.
 

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It seems like Wee might have dumped a bunch of useless items to her on me as goodwill. I think both of these AND the revolver just came from her based on what Aeleus said lol

Well wait, she couldn't have done this, she can't send shit since she would have died first.

HOW THE FUCK DO I HAVE THESE ITEMS?

Did I kill Wee somehow?
 

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Could Fando have killed Wee and then I just get everything as the only survivor? That could work right?
 

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At this point, I think if one of us is about to get lynched, we should come clean about the illuminati stuff. Like do it close to day end when you FOR SURE know you'll get lynched but I think that's the only way we get this out there.
 

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@Geno can I use Seraphic Wing yet
redirect?

Probably not because Fando died too. I feel like it must be Fando found killing power somehow and used it on Wee and then I got everything from both of them. One of these items might have been on Fando? The chaos emerald maybe and that's what let him kill all of a sudden?
 

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wait if wee had Rebellion how did wee die
Jedah’s item was ??? and made him ninja, undetectable and untargetable and also gave him infinite strongman faction-kills.
Rebellion would presumably belong to her unless he has something really special
Probably not because Fando died too. I feel like it must be Fando found killing power somehow and used it on Wee and then I got everything from both of them. One of these items might have been on Fando? The chaos emerald maybe and that's what let him kill all of a sudden?
yeah, I guess Fando had both the Emerald and Rebellion?
 

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That's true too, weird

Unless Frostmourne really was her item in which case lololol
 

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wee not being a watcher means we should be in the clear for motion detection roles, yeah? Presumably if there was a real watcher they would've claimed, the tracker is dead, and other variants are too niche to be of concern imo
 

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wee not being a watcher means we should be in the clear for motion detection roles, yeah? Presumably if there was a real watcher they would've claimed, the tracker is dead, and other variants are too niche to be of concern imo

Correct. I think we can move on loki next time we kill.
 

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speaking of I know wee wasn't a traditional mafioso but I don't get why she didn't just go for a cop/doc fakeclaim instead of just fucking with Chugg

also her fakeclaim was vig so I guess that well is poisoned?
 

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FoD-known item inventory by event (refer to Vinny's post for towntruth, Sorian here for claims):

1: Apopheniac won Chaos Emerald, held by Sorian
2: Muffin won Dutch's Revolver, held by Apopheniac
3: Fran won X-Blade, held by Sorian
4: Fantomas/EzekelRAGE won Genotype Microchip, last known sent to Brazil
5: NeonBorealis/Stantastic won Gyroid
6: Sorian won Morningstar, held by Fran
7: Stuart444 won Rebellion, held by Apopheniac
8: TearablePuns won Frostmourne, held by Sorian
so we're missing two items? not like it matters that much, lol
 

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Yeah, at this point I'll let frostmourne go out to town at some point today but otherwise, we can just hold everything. If one of us is going to be lynched, just shuffle all items you have to another person here except my keyblade, I'll make sure to die with it because that makes Apop look like he's not on my team
 

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I just noticed my flavor literally says I should find the x-blade. I really should read Geno flavor more often, there are too many hints here lol
 

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Also, as Saw (?) pointed out, Frostmourne was for Wee, the collecting souls power of the sword. We're dunces too.
 

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I guess the other Rebellion user would be Cat, then

Yeah, makes sense that the person curing the virus and causing the virus uses the same item, they negate each other until one of them gets the item they are both looking for.
 

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We keep lucking into the other team's shooting themselves in the foot.

FoD everyday:

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also if the BP recipient was notified they'll probably support Vincent's claim

actually could the BP come from an Infinity Stone? we might need to worry about Thanos soon
 
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also if the BP recipient was notified they'll probably support Vincent's claim

actually could the BP come from an Infinity Stone? we might need to worry about Thanos soon

At this point, I think we should just assume Thanos will happen, I think it’s an NPC. Half the game will “die” but they probably won’t get flipped so people won’t have new info, we should be prepared for one or two of us to disappear with half the game.
 

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At this point, I think we should just assume Thanos will happen, I think it’s an NPC. Half the game will “die” but they probably won’t get flipped so people won’t have new info, we should be prepared for one or two of us to disappear with half the game.
do you think this would be reversible?
 

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do you think this would be reversible?

It could be but I'm not really sure. If it had happened earlier I could see it being reversible for sure but it seems to be tied into killing the powerful scum roles (I think one of us actually has an infinity stone too and doesn't know it).
 

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Well, if I go today, at least I can leave information on the illuminati before I go, that should keep you two safe for a little bit.
 

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I feel like I need to go before Apop today? He still has a very good shot at his extra kill and that will help move the game along. The main reasoning people have on him is coasting and I'll just be a sticking point forever now especially with Brazil and Saw alive. I'm going to vote Apop now but as long as both of you vote me, that tips me over and Apop will collapse when I talk about the illuminati stuff
 

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Gonna workshop a claim rn, but in case it goes south for me

GIVE: Dutch's Revolver, Fran

Do not claim

Do not claim

Do not claim

Do not claim

I am probably dying today, you do not need to draw attention to yourself.
 

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Feel like it makes more sense for Fran to vote me today. Tbh I'm more bussable anyway

The main issue is that you are coasting and that's really all people have on you. If anything else big comes up (illuminati), you fall into the background again. My issue is that people don't trust me the longer a game goes on, that isn't going to go away especially with people who play with me often. You also have the extra kill at some point before end game. My power is kind of useless right now, it's 1 vote change but there's still going to be like 16 people tomorrow, the best use of my power is at lylo but I'm not making it to lylo unless someone cop checks and no one thinks godfather immediately which is a lol
 

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Sorian are you gonna throw Frostmourne at Natiko right before you die

It would be very funny

I was thinking about it. It prevents him from protecting someone tonight, I was just worried he might kill one of you but I don't think he would?
 

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Hmm, I feel like people are going to object to that plan but I guess you should get a claim ready. Do not claim that you are an illuminati cop or anything like that though and don't actually claim yet, see which way the wind blows first.
 

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I retract my last "do not claim" appeal. Just please don't claim anything to do with illuminati.
 

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damn, this is what I was planning

I don't have anything else good tbh

If you claim illuminati checker then youll be connected to the whole mess when/if I tell town about illuminati and our only chance fo winning is to distract them with illuminati. What fake claim did Geno give you?
 

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Eh, geez bodyguard isn't great because of VA's claim today. You could claim jailer. Vig doesn't work well, you would have taken credit for one of the deaths today already if you were a vig
 

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If you claim illuminati checker then youll be connected to the whole mess when/if I tell town about illuminati and our only chance fo winning is to distract them with illuminati. What fake claim did Geno give you?
Charlie Nash, bodyguard

I figured Nash would work well with the whole Illuminati thing since it's an SF connection. Why were you going to do an Illuminati thing?
 

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Like it makes more sense to me that you claim having an extra regular power on top of the lame thing you claimed instead of going with two really weird things, especially if you're a legit protagonist and I'm just part of an ensemble
 

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Charlie Nash, bodyguard

I figured Nash would work well with the whole Illuminati thing since it's an SF connection. Why were you going to do an Illuminati thing?

Whichever of us dies needs to come clean and explain the illuminati to town before we flip. I'm not saying I would claim illuminati, I'm saying if I'm about to die, I'm going to tell town they are right that I'm scum but we also have been able to find illuminati and that's why we killed Ket and Fando. We can't rely on their flips apparently so we just have to tell the town at some point. It's the only way we can maybe get loki and Muffin lynched and that re-opens the game.
 

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And if you claim illuminati checker then I can't tell them the truth if I'm the one getting lynched because then that just links you into the whole mess, the whole point is to hopefully get them to go for the illuminati next and forget our team for now
 

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Whichever of us dies needs to come clean and explain the illuminati to town before we flip. I'm not saying I would claim illuminati, I'm saying if I'm about to die, I'm going to tell town they are right that I'm scum but we also have been able to find illuminati and that's why we killed Ket and Fando. We can't rely on their flips apparently so we just have to tell the town at some point. It's the only way we can maybe get loki and Muffin lynched and that re-opens the game.
this is an ultra mega bad idea imo and everyone will assume it's a horrible horrible gambit, ESPECIALLY coming from you because you're Like That
 

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this is an ultra mega bad idea imo and everyone will assume it's a horrible horrible gambit, ESPECIALLY coming from you because you're Like That

Except loki and Fando confirmed it in thread by secret signaling to each other. If it was just me explaining the situation then sure but they did something in thread that I can quote and point too.
 

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Like, why does town even need to know about obscured flips

VA will be killed by FoL tonight and then the green checks can be NK'd
 

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Except loki and Fando confirmed it in thread by secret signaling to each other. If it was just me explaining the situation then sure but they did something in thread that I can quote and point too.
so why can't I just point this out
 

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We have no way to point out those posts otherwise without tipping that we have extra information, if I'm dying anyway or you are depending on how the vote goes then we might as well use that chance to tip that we have the extra info. My one worry is that Fran has now also said los illuminados in thread but eh, we've lost by process of elimination at this point anyway unless town is willing to lynch/look at loki and Muffin again anyway.
 

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so why can't I just point this out

Why would you have reason to point it out? Why didn't you point it out before if you were an illuminati cop? Why didn't you pressure Fando and loki at all? None of your play makes sense to have been a cop for this other faction thus far.
 

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Why would you have reason to point it out? Why didn't you point it out before if you were an illuminati cop? Why didn't you pressure Fando and loki at all? None of your play makes sense to have been a cop for this other faction thus far.
I could say the same for you if this is what you want to play
 

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I could say the same for you if this is what you want to play

The person dying wouldn't be making a fake town claim, they would be admitting to be scum on their way out the door. If I let them know about it, I'm not doing it to try and save myself, I'm doing it so they have distractions tomorrow for whoever of us is left.
 

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Like, why would you bash Stu over the head about the green checks being legit if you turn around and argue that they're not
 

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Like, why would you bash Stu over the head about the green checks being legit if you turn around and argue that they're not

Because town Sorian has no reason to believe something was wrong there, scum team forces of darkness has extra info though, that's the whole point here. Us pretending to be town would have no reason to think anything was up with loki or Muffin, the real us know that something is up. The whole reason we killed Ket and Fando was so that they would flip illuminati and THEN we could point out the issue as town members but they don't flip with their info. That's the hang up here.
 

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Because town Sorian has no reason to believe something was wrong there, scum team forces of darkness has extra info though, that's the whole point here. Us pretending to be town would have no reason to think anything was up with loki or Muffin, the real us know that something is up. The whole reason we killed Ket and Fando was so that they would flip illuminati and THEN we could point out the issue as town members but they don't flip with their info. That's the hang up here.
Do you think this could work if it's amended to be some kind of coroner type of deal? I feel like that might actually work out here, since it's just off-beat enough
 

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Like, I just don't see town going "well, Sorian was a fuckface mafia, let's follow what he said and take down the Innocent Children"
 

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The other thing is if Fran busses me, I can make the claim feasibly under lethal pressure to keep you around with a decent claim, and one of you can pick up the "Illuminati" lead tomorrow on the ICs
 

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They might not, claiming a coroner is whatever, they would still have to either believe the info or not, it doesn't matter how we got the info, it just matters that we did. It's still better than the game state as it is now. Right now we are in a very small PoE with nothing to show for it because our kills keep getting obscured
 

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The other thing is if Fran busses me, I can make the claim feasibly under lethal pressure to keep you around with a decent claim, and one of you can pick up the "Illuminati" lead tomorrow on the ICs

Whoever dies, it ends up being mostly the same. Your flip has a bit more weight since it specifically talks about the illuminati and mine doesn't but the bigger issue is that I think you can make it to end game easier than I could. I feel like us bussing you now over me just hurts more long term.
 

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Whoever dies, it ends up being mostly the same. Your flip has a bit more weight since it specifically talks about the illuminati and mine doesn't but the bigger issue is that I think you can make it to end game easier than I could. I feel like us bussing you now over me just hurts more long term.
I have way more faith in your ability to pull stuff out of your ass if you back up your weird power with a more normal one you can say you meant to obscure for whatever reason. I don't have much in the way I can claim at this point without looking like I'm just desperate which is part of why I wanted to get out in front D3, so I may as well go with a weird moonshot and let you take some credit for bussing me
 

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Up to you, I still can't think of a good claim for you which is the main issue. If you think you are the one going out anyway then the illuminati thing is fine and no one will believe you now but then you can say more right before you flip or just let your flip speak for itself.
 

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Hmm, if it was something benign, I figured loki would come clean to defend you but he's still hiding it.
 

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I hope that links right, you need to be on 50ppp i think
 
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