Scum Thread Revolt meeting at the park

[Poltergust]

I seem to be doing pretty well to be town-read by two people so far lol.

rac, is there anything else from your conversation with Fanto that we should know going into the next day phase?

 

[Poltergust]

With Chugg out we lose our strong kill and roleblocker. Oww...

Fanto is probably the prime target for a doctor this coming night phase.

 

[Poltergust]

Honestly, it would benefit us to keep Fanto around for as long as possible to play up the "scum gave key to scummate and got modkilled as cover" angle. It sounds just crazy enough to convince someone in a MyLo situation to go for it lol.

 

[Stantastic]

well thats unfortunate.

Honestly, it would benefit us to keep Fanto around for as long as possible to play up the "scum gave key to scummate and got modkilled as cover" angle. It sounds just crazy enough to convince someone in a MyLo situation to go for it lol.

i dont see that argument flying very long at all, its a pretty ridiculous strategy for scum to make, especially on N1 when chuggs was far from being in the line of fire.
with Fanto i say we wait to see where his reads land and decide from there, his reads have a tendency to stick one he fully formulates them so they may turn out more favorable to us.

 

[rac]

rac, is there anything else from your conversation with Fanto that we should know going into the next day phase?

not really i got burnt out a bit (not from the game) and have been taking a break from my computer honestly

 

[Poltergust]

So Chugg targeted the (likely) one neutral player in this entire game lol.

Is that lucky or unlucky?

 

[Poltergust]

Ooh, if Muffin dies then Stan becomes tracker. This is very good for us lol.

 

[Poltergust]

Well, at least Geno redirected Fanto to another town player.

 

[Stantastic]

this entire things has just been absolutely hilarious, i wish chuggs could have been here for it.

 

[rac]

@Reki, @Stantastic, @Poltergust

i dunno if its cause i rolled scum(probably), or the trainings i have to do to get payed(maybe) but my head is not in the game at all
if you guys want me to keep being low activity or w/e i can push through but its entirely up to you

sorry

 

[Poltergust]

It's fine, rac! We'll try to win it for you. =)

 

[malus]

Hello fellow Scum.
I don't have a great track record as Scum so feel free to bus me as well lol.
Sadly I can't see the chat with Fanto from last night, so I hope I won't contradict anything.

 

[malus]

I would say we should try to keep both Fanto and Geno around. If we kill Geno, Fanto will become the survivor and will probably side with Town. If we make it to mylo/lylo with both alive we could possibly strike a deal with him or if Geno is serious about getting himself lunched that wouldn't be too bad for us as well.

 

[malus]

Btw, I think I'll keep my second gossip shot for now. Once I'm under a bit more pressure I can use it to ease it a bit I hope.

 

[malus]

I'm guessing LP targeted himself last night, hence his comment about expecting to die during the night at day start.

 

[Poltergust]

I feel the strong urge to counter-claim as doctor.

I would've suggested malus to, but he just unvoted. =/

 

[Poltergust]

What do you two think?

 

[Poltergust]

If no one says anything I'm going to do it as soon as I finish eating lunch lol.

 

[Poltergust]

So ~10 minutes.

 

[Poltergust]

Or maybe sooner if I start getting a train on me lol.

 

[Poltergust]

OK, here goes...

 

[Poltergust]

THE DIE IS CAST

 

[malus]

Lol, it's pure chaos right now. Sorry I didn't see your posts here or else I would have counter claimed.

 

[Poltergust]

Nah, I think it's fine if I do this myself.

If I live until the next day phase, I'm really curious as to how quickly everyone will vote.

 

[malus]

We'll still have to figure out the hammerer since you are clearly the Super Saint, lol. So it may take a while.

 

[Poltergust]

Yeah, I'll totally go along with that for sure. No point not to.

 

[Poltergust]

Seriously, I signed up for a role madness game for a reason. I'm so glad I got something super important for once instead of being relegated to vanilla or a vanilla-like role again. Aang in Avatar Mafia was the closest I've ever been to having a good role, but it was... a Vanillalizer role. I COULDN'T ESCAPE IT.

*EXTREME evil eye at Reki's way*

 

[Poltergust]

I typed that clenching my teeth

 

[Poltergust]

And the Oscar for Best Actor goes to...

 

[Poltergust]

So... Muffin is priority #1, right?

Should I go ahead and meow him, or should we use a Ninja Meow?

 

[Poltergust]

I guess I should just go since the chances of me living past tomorrow are pretty nil now.

 

[malus]

Might as well use the ninja today. I doubt there are more roles that could track the kill.

 

[malus]

Also there's a chance there are other roles that could interfere, like a roleblocker or something and you're a prime target.

 

[Poltergust]

Can a roleblocker stop a standard kill? That seems kinda OP.

 

[Poltergust]

This night phase is only 24 hours, by the way. So we should decide who to send out ASAP before we forget lol.

 

[malus]

I would probably go for Muffin. Or alternatively we can use the ninja on Geno and go for Muffin the next phase in case there are some other shenanigans like a redirector on Muffin.

 

[malus]

Oh wait, that would make Fanto a survivor, so maybe not such a good idea.

 

[malus]

But it could also give us information on other roles if he can control them.

 

[Poltergust]

No, I really think we should just off Muffin here. A tracker is far too dangerous to keep around, and we don't have infinite ninja meows.

Plus, it'll allow Stan to become our own tracker.

 

[Stantastic]

Yeah i good with ninja'ing muffin.

and lol you cheeky duck polt.

Seriously, I signed up for a role madness game for a reason. I'm so glad I got something super important for once instead of being relegated to vanilla or a vanilla-like role again. Aang in Avatar Mafia was the closest I've ever been to having a good role, but it was... a Vanillalizer role. I COULDN'T ESCAPE IT.

 

[Stantastic]

personally i dont think counter claiming was the smartest idea, but eh its not liking im being super tactical or shit this game, nonsense seems like the name of the game and maybe we'll be able to spin it better.
I mean imma buss the shit out of you tomorrow but beyond that who knows.

 

[Poltergust]

Well, with our strong kill gone, I didn't want to risk us losing a night kill due to a doctor. With that out of the way, we can still try to keep pace with town.

Anyways, go ahead with the ninja stuff.

 

[Stantastic]

alrighty then.

NINJA MEOW: Muffin

 

[Reki]

NINJA MEOW: Muffin

MEOW!

 

[Poltergust]

So Kawl took the hit for Muffin, I guess.

Not sure if it matters, though. We didn't do anything other than a ninja kill.

 

[Poltergust]

I think I'm gonna let them stew over my motivations for a bit and see if I can do something with it later. I have actual work to do lol.

 

[Poltergust]

Oh, so Aeleus was a lightning rod.

Guess town blew two protective roles in one night there, then. I doubt a lightning rod would be more than a 1-shot.

 

[Poltergust]

OK, so continuing to claim doctor at this point is a no-go, but I still have some leeway I can work with here. It's a bit of a gamble, but it could work out lol.

 

[Poltergust]

So, what do you guys think? Believable claim? =P

 

[Poltergust]

Well, regardless, I did not expect to live past today anyways. Throwing town for a loop there was pretty fun, though!

 

[Poltergust]

I wish the both of you best of luck. Be careful since town is pulling for a mass role claim.

 

[Stantastic]

Yeah thats about the best you could do rught now, sorry i wasnt able to really help think up somethin iv been surprisingly busy this morning.

 

[malus]

I don't think there was anything you could have claimed to save you.

 

[Stantastic]

literally as i hit post reply it occurred to me that town might not look to well on the claim that town has two town aligned trackers, and that it will be hard to convice people it muffin for a multitude of reasons.

god this is not my game at all.

 

[Poltergust]

Considering I'm still alive, I'll post a few more thoughts:

-Blarg should be absolutely avoided when it comes to night kills. The way his power works makes it seem that he can only post his investigation results upon death (or that his investigation results are unknown to him until he dies). I'm worried about him getting lynched, though. Even if he is townread he may still get lynched for those investigation results. They'll likely try to keep him on until a day before MyLo in that case. But if they think that there's only one scum left, they may miscalculate when that would actually be. Assuming Stan is still alive, we can make use of the Super Saint in that instance and instantly bring town to a MyLo situation, and Blarg would be unable to use his ability. So, that would be when town is at 4-5 people left, which would leave Stan to deal with a 1v2 or 1v3. I think that's the only path forward for us if town even hints at lynching Blarg.

-Stuart as a bus driver could mean trouble, but he's also being scumread right now. I'm not sure if we should ninja kill him or still try to go for Muffin, but if he gets the right target and redirects a kill then it's basically the same as one of us getting tracked by Muffin. I wonder if we can use malus's chat ability to obfuscate that?

-I have no idea what's going on with Geno's ability, but him thinking that directing Stan won't lead to a NK could be used to our advantage since we'll still have two people. I think it's too suspect to NK him now (not to mention Fanto is still around and is looking to kill him).

 

[Poltergust]

Actually, about that Blarg point, if town is at 4 people with both of you still alive then that's already MyLo lol. And even with 5, town may choose to lynch Blarg anyways.

Man, he's a problem. Maybe he should be NK'd ASAP before he can do any more investigations. I really don't know what to do with him.

 

[Poltergust]

Here's my ordered list of who to NK, separated into tiers:

Prime Targets
Muffin
oreo (he would prevent us from winning in what would normally be MyLo situations if he keeps stockpiling his power)
Stuart (only reason he's not #1 right now is because he is being scumread)

Considerable Options
Vere
Aeleus
Kopite
Blarg

Avoid
Geno
Fanto

 

[malus]

I don't know if Blarg is telling the truth about his claim. He's been name fishing this whole game, so I could see him being a flavour cop.
Oreo definitely needs to go before mylo/lylo. With Stuart around a Muffin target might be a little risky right now.
I think we should first kill Oreo. Then if Stu isn't lunched tomorrow, go for him next and then Muffin.

Also @Reki: can I do the night kill when I'm in a gossip chat the same night?

 

[Reki]

Also @Reki: can I do the night kill when I'm in a gossip chat the same night?

You can!

 

[Stantastic]

This is actually making me hesitant on the Muffin NK. just in that it would come out very strange if we kill muffin, but not the backup tracker immediately after.
Would rather not kill blarg, he will head himself to a lunch before to long, and on the off chance hes not lying about his role id rather delay that redcheck as long as possible.

 

[Stantastic]

well shit

 

[malus]

God damn I don't want to become the last surviving Scum.

 

[malus]

Sorry, I was unexpectedly unavailable. I maybe should have entered a chat with Aeleus or Stu, but I will probably be able to do that tomorrow still.

 

[Reki]

Sorry, I was unexpectedly unavailable. I maybe should have entered a chat with Aeleus or Stu, but I will probably be able to do that tomorrow still.

Just saw this, thanks for the explanation.

 

[Stantastic]

Welp im dead either tommorrow or the next day. Which removes my trepidation at killing muffin tonight, you still good with that?

 

[malus]

Yeah sounds good to me. I'm a bit worried about the Stu the bus driver though. I think he will switch one of Blarg or Muffin, but I don't have a better plan either way.

 

[Stantastic]

welp, might as well use my last one, just in case whatever else happens.

NINJA MEOW: Muffin

 

[Reki]

NINJA MEOW: Muffin

MEOW!

 

[Stantastic]

So im on my way out and your gonna have a fair run to bring this home, there any particular way you want me to try plan this to set you up later on?

 

[malus]

I think we should see if it's possible to get Stu lunched first. There were quite a few people that wanted him lunched before you.

 

[malus]

God damn it Geno. Why would you sacrifice yourself for Muffin when there was a perfectly scum read Stu around?

 

[Stantastic]

Losing Geno instead aint that bad us tho, he was in a leaderish role.

 

[malus]

But he wasn't really onto us and with him we had leverage against Fanto. I don't see Fanto siding with Scum, so he's essentially confirmed town now.

Now we still have to deal with a tracker, busdriver and cop, though I hope the cop is out of shots by now.

 

[malus]

Seems like nobody noticed the strange interaction between you and Blarg yesterday, wtf.

 

[Stantastic]

Seems like nobody noticed the strange interaction between you and Blarg yesterday, wtf.

I think it may just be everyones grown apathetic to blargs nonsense?
I dunno this silence is weirding me the hell out

 

[Stantastic]

Well it seems like turning people properly against blarg wont be too hard, alrighty lets see how we can stretch this sucker out.

This sucker being my life of course.

 

[malus]

Should have hammered Blarg when I had the chance...

 

[malus]

In case I forget to come back before EoD (and I actually survive the day):

DINNER INVITATION: Aeleus

 

[Reki]

DINNER INVITATION: Aeleus

MEOW!

 

[malus]

To bus or not to bus, that is the question!

 

[malus]

Sorry Stan!

 

[malus]

Probably won't be enough, but it was going to happen anyway, so might as well take what I can.

 

[Reki]

Those awful dogs... they'll see...

(Sorry the Chef Chat is taking a bit.)

 

[malus]

Those awful dogs... they'll see...

(Sorry the Chef Chat is taking a bit.)

I've always been more of a cat person.
No problem with the chat. I probably won't be online much longer anyway.

 

[Reki]

Dinner should be served now, @malus! Please confirm you can see it.

 

[malus]

wouldn't it be funny if I "accidentally" posted in the wrong chat
"wouldn't it be funny if I 'accidentally' posted in the wrong chat only to kill Aeleus?"
only to kill Aeleus?

(I now double checked that this is indeed the Scum chat)

 

[Reki]

It'd be fun.

But don't give up! You can do this.

 

[malus]

So now the question is who will Stu protect? The Tracker or one of the Lovers? Probably the tracker given his usefulness.
I think my best bet will be to go for Blarg. Nobody will lunch the lovers after Stans flip.

 

[malus]

I just hope Muffin doesn't track me in that case. How many times can Stu target the same player? He will just keep protecting the tracker I guess.

 

[malus]

If Muffin tracks Stu again and sees no movement, I'm pretty much fucked as well. In fact if he tracks anyone of the current suspects I'm fucked. He should have been taken care of days ago!

 

[malus]

But if I target Muffin, I'm pretty sure I will just kill myself or maybe Oreo, which would also be a Game Over. I also can't kill Stu because then I don't have enough scape goats left to win.
If town really goes down paranoia road, they may want to get Fanto out of the party, but that's a really long shot.

 

[malus]

The super crazy side of me wants to target Kopite and hope Stu has switched him with Muffin.

 

[malus]

Or I could do operation Hydro Cannon and hope Stu is kicked from the party next.
Quick math time:
-We are currently at 9 living players.
-If Stu is launched I have a free path to remove Muffin. -> 7 survivers after next day+night phase.
-Get rid of Kopite or Oreo the next day and remove Lovers during the night. -> 4 survivers. Mylo with Kop or Oreo, Aeleus and Fanto.
This could actually work out!

 

[malus]

Though it relies heavily on nobody questioning why Stu wouldn't just outright kill Muffin...

 

[malus]

I need to plant the seed for a Stu lunch in Aeleus I guess. Inception Style.

 

[malus]

Completely forgot Stu claimed to only have 3 shots. Seems plausible given Chuggs had 3 strong meows too.

 

[malus]

Which means that Muffin only has protection tonight. Unless Stu anticipates my hesitation and doesn't use his shot, in which case well played I guess.

 

[malus]

I think I'm going to go ahead with Hydro Cannon. There's too much risk that Muffin finds me or clears somebody else otherwise.

 

[malus]

Of course Scum!Stu wouldn't kill Muffin! That would make him look super bad. So he would have the same problem as me, where Muffin would either find him or clear somebody else. This is brilliant.

 

[malus]

To make it official:

no meow