Scum Thread Phantom Troupe
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Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I would maybe avoid doing it unless you're either A) nervous or B) have a specific play in mind with it. Vote locking onto yourself twice in one game seems almost too obvious lol
Blargonaut
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true, true.
I know that ideally we want a mislunched Townsperson as always for a Day-end result, but I gotta say I'm reaaaallly tempted to be my shittiest self Today just to bait that lunch for the audience's sake
I know that ideally we want a mislunched Townsperson as always for a Day-end result, but I gotta say I'm reaaaallly tempted to be my shittiest self Today just to bait that lunch for the audience's sake
Blargonaut
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Don't worry I won't self-incriminate unless they really start looking my way
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I mean I won't do it then either, you know what I mean.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
7-4, today NL on Blarg
6-4, NK IDGAF and Bomb literally anyone not moving
5-4, Kyaa go boom possibly outright win if even two land, lets say somehow it goes real bad and it's 1:1, Blarg goes for real
4-2, NK literally anyone
3-2, lets say Gor goes here
3-1, NK literally anyone
2-1, I DK literally anyone
1-1
6-4, NK IDGAF and Bomb literally anyone not moving
5-4, Kyaa go boom possibly outright win if even two land, lets say somehow it goes real bad and it's 1:1, Blarg goes for real
4-2, NK literally anyone
3-2, lets say Gor goes here
3-1, NK literally anyone
2-1, I DK literally anyone
1-1
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Thought: if I were just to straight-up go for aggro and bait the lunch Today, would that be better for us in a sense that, "We tried to kill Blarg but he's LUNCHPROOF?! Would a scum have that kind of Power? Seems overpowered. Will we bother wasting the next Day-phase trying to re-lunch Blarg?"
And I'll serve as a stalling tactic for Kyan~'s BOMBing effort(s).
And I'll serve as a stalling tactic for Kyan~'s BOMBing effort(s).
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
7-4, today NL on Blarg
7-4, NK IDGAF and Bomb literally anyone not moving
6-4, Kyaa go boom possibly outright win if even two land, lets say somehow it goes real bad and it's 1:1, Blarg goes for real
5-2, NK literally anyone
4-2, lets say Gor goes here
4-1, NK literally anyone
3-1, I DK literally anyone
2-1, whoopie I die, we lose
I goobed, less certain now. But still - if Kyaa goes 2:1 we are back to winning almost 100%. If you 3:1 that's instant game over.
7-4, NK IDGAF and Bomb literally anyone not moving
6-4, Kyaa go boom possibly outright win if even two land, lets say somehow it goes real bad and it's 1:1, Blarg goes for real
5-2, NK literally anyone
4-2, lets say Gor goes here
4-1, NK literally anyone
3-1, I DK literally anyone
2-1, whoopie I die, we lose
I goobed, less certain now. But still - if Kyaa goes 2:1 we are back to winning almost 100%. If you 3:1 that's instant game over.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If they do that's fine, go boom. If you go 2:1 I think we still probably have this on lock assuming Gor does not die last.
Blargonaut
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Kyaa~, sry could I just reconfirm who's got your Bombs again?
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Dr. Monkey and Aeleus, right?
You failed the Bomb against Vere (b/c of Muffin's inclement weather/redirect), right?
You failed the Bomb against Vere (b/c of Muffin's inclement weather/redirect), right?
hey we got a kill through, that's what counts - 7v4
btw someone was definitely interested in me, the player data had my name on when opening it / and now I know we've never been the same alignment before Nat
for laterness: cheesy flush very cheesy ;)
I feel so detached from the game, let me look at votes
btw someone was definitely interested in me, the player data had my name on when opening it / and now I know we've never been the same alignment before Nat
for laterness: cheesy flush very cheesy ;)
I feel so detached from the game, let me look at votes
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oh yeah, Flush first. k TY
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So 2 possible Bomb kills...
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+1 for Tonight... (hopefully)
3 possible Bomb hits Tomorrow...
3 possible Bomb hits Tomorrow...
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
It's possible we can get a Muffin vote today, or maybe even Zipped it feels like Monkey is cracking there tbh. That would lock this even more.
It was me. I wanted to see if we had played as the same alignment before lol
Pssssst
It was me. I wanted to see if we had played as the same alignment before lol
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never watched Lady Snowblood until yesterday after it was recommended in an Era thread and it was really good so there's my thinking music's for now:
Day 4:
Royal_Flush (FAILED to Kyaa~bomb N1)
Dr. Monkey (Kyaa~bombed N2)
Aeleus (Kyaa~bombed N3)
empressdonna
Muffin
Verelios
Zippedpinhead
Natiko
Blargonaut
Kyanrute
Gorlak
Royal_Flush (FAILED to Kyaa~bomb N1)
Dr. Monkey (Kyaa~bombed N2)
Aeleus (Kyaa~bombed N3)
empressdonna
Muffin
Verelios
Zippedpinhead
Natiko
Blargonaut
Kyanrute
Gorlak
11 players left.
7 Town.
4 Mafia.
7 Town.
4 Mafia.
SCENARIO, "THE TOILET-STALLED BLAST"
Today; Blargonaut eats the lunch and lives!
Night 4; we Night-kill ???, and Kyan plants another Bomb on ???.
11 - 1 = 10 players left.
Day 5; Kyan triggers BOOM :D, knocks down 3 Town but also himself...
10 - 4 = 6 players left.
...then let's say they were, um, really super-intimidated by being unable to kill me so move on, then miss lunch for Muffin or Zipped; in any case, a Townsperson's removed, so after Day-end...
6 - 1 = 5 players left.
BUT.
If Town does NOT miss lunch on D5, like decide to finish me off, then D5 would end in...
6 - 1 = 5 players left.
5 - 1 = 4 players left.
Today; Blargonaut eats the lunch and lives!
Night 4; we Night-kill ???, and Kyan plants another Bomb on ???.
11 - 1 = 10 players left.
6 Town, 4 Mafia.
3/6 are now Kyan~bombed.
3/6 are now Kyan~bombed.
Day 5; Kyan triggers BOOM :D, knocks down 3 Town but also himself...
10 - 4 = 6 players left.
3 Town. 3 Mafia.
...then let's say they were, um, really super-intimidated by being unable to kill me so move on, then miss lunch for Muffin or Zipped; in any case, a Townsperson's removed, so after Day-end...
6 - 1 = 5 players left.
2 Town, 3 Mafia.
...so we win if Town mis-lunches on D5; game doesn't need to go to N5.
BUT.
If Town does NOT miss lunch on D5, like decide to finish me off, then D5 would end in...
6 - 1 = 5 players left.
3 Town, 2 Mafia.
Any possible combo of three (3) Town from (depends on who we NK'd and Bombed on N4):
...and after our Night-kill on Night 5...Natiko
Gorlak
vs.
Gorlak
vs.
Any possible combo of three (3) Town from (depends on who we NK'd and Bombed on N4):
- empressdonna
- Muffin
- Verelios
- Zippedpinhead
- Royal_Flush
5 - 1 = 4 players left.
2 Town, 2 Mafia.
...going into DAY 6; which would be our Natiko & Gorlak VS. 2 Town from the list just above.
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So IMO, if we're gonna gambit for STYLE it might be better for us for me to eat Today's lunch.
Then, I could maybe play my survival off by fake-claiming Tomorrow that my Town-aligned Role is a 1-shot Lynchproof + whenever I self-vote, I make myself Day-Ascetic (but I'm overall still vulnerable to scum's Night-kills). Reasoning for me making this Role is that Blarg luvs lulz hence made myself as Daytime-untouchable as possible fuck it never be Town-utility
Then, I could maybe play my survival off by fake-claiming Tomorrow that my Town-aligned Role is a 1-shot Lynchproof + whenever I self-vote, I make myself Day-Ascetic (but I'm overall still vulnerable to scum's Night-kills). Reasoning for me making this Role is that Blarg luvs lulz hence made myself as Daytime-untouchable as possible fuck it never be Town-utility
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oh. yes of course
3 Town voting against a player, 3 Mafia votes against another player; impossible for Town to win, goes to tie, we NK and win 2-3
totes figured that
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Eh, unless we think they have a DIRECT kill it’s irrelevant and we can open wolf. Dodging kills wouldn’t be enough. Even with a direct kill AND a save at 3-3 to take it to 3-2, if at any point they off Gor before one of the others they still lose without pulling it off yet again.
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So... if Muffin actually dies/gets lunched Today D4, we're ending D4 at:
Then after our N4 Night-kill:
D5, Kyan triggers THREE-BOMB on Ael, Dr. M and ??? (yet fingers crossed the 3rd Bomb-plant goes thru) so D5 will become:
11 - 1 = 10.
6 Town, 4 Mafia.
Then after our N4 Night-kill:
10 - 1 = 9.
5 Town, 4 Mafia.
D5, Kyan triggers THREE-BOMB on Ael, Dr. M and ??? (yet fingers crossed the 3rd Bomb-plant goes thru) so D5 will become:
9 - 4 = 5.
Yet worse-case Kyan's 3rd bomb failed to set, instead of an instant Win upon Kyan's BOMBing, we'll still get a 2-kill and so end up as 3-3 for D5; then we open-wolf and Night-kill somebody N6, that's a win...2 Town, 3 Mafia.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
True enough. It is less dangerous than I thought.
Blargonaut
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...if worse-case Kyan's Bombing really only hits 2 ppl when triggered D5...
...whilst going down the RENEGADE path of my selfish "Let Blarg eat lunch" gambit all purely for s t y l e...
Start D5 with 10 players left.
Kyan bombs, hits only 2 & himself...
Then hopefully we can get a mis-lunch D5; so it'd be 3 Town, 3 Mafia going into N5...
We NK a Townsperson...2-3
Win at Day-start of D6
...whilst going down the RENEGADE path of my selfish "Let Blarg eat lunch" gambit all purely for s t y l e...
Start D5 with 10 players left.
Kyan bombs, hits only 2 & himself...
10 - 3 = 7 players.
Then I'd likely get lunched on D5 in those circumstances, but... there could be a very slight chance to save myself by me somehow spinning my D4 lunch survival as a Town-aligned Role.4 Town. 3 Mafia.
Natiko
Gorlak
Blarg
vs.
Pick 4 from:
Gorlak
Blarg
vs.
Pick 4 from:
- empressdonna
- Muffin
- Verelios
- Zippedpinhead
- Royal_Flush
Then hopefully we can get a mis-lunch D5; so it'd be 3 Town, 3 Mafia going into N5...
We NK a Townsperson...2-3
Win at Day-start of D6
Muffin can also still hamper us.
The most important parts are so easily missed. Wiki summary sounds like a dark story. It's based on a manga, now you have my interest! 1973, does it withstand the test of time? Ah inspiration for Kill Bill, I see I see.
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It's a little teensy-weensy tiny bit dated IMO during certain bits of blatant narrator exposition and also with some of the ol' '70s-style action but, uh, "not really actually", overall it's paced quite well & flows modern-ish, and it's fun noticing the scenes that would now scream as Tarantino's style
Also it has a dude who has the exact head-hair-face-glasses vibe I've wanted since probably forever, spoiler if I screenshot it though
Also it has a dude who has the exact head-hair-face-glasses vibe I've wanted since probably forever, spoiler if I screenshot it though
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I think if today’s vote lands on anyone that isn’t myself, Gor, Kyaa we basically always have Kyaa auto-explode tomorrow. Monkey could maybe use her ITA, which would just further cement the need to blow up as it’ll take more Town guns away than scum and prevent kyaa from being sniped. If we actually do get Muffin out today that would be great. I don’t know that we should go all in for it, but let’s not bus Blarg too hard yet to give us wiggle room.
Blargonaut
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bonus: I'd say my current look is like a 55%-off discounted version of his, shame my facial hair doesn't grow out as voluminously luscious but at least I got similar glasses-frames
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I’ll have to see if I can track it down to watch!
Blargonaut
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Muffin continuing to beat himself up about his "useless" Town Role even though what it did on N1 to Kyan's Bomb could actually cost us the win
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Accurate lol I actually think his role is a cool idea, all he really needed to add was a notification on who it hit or something to be really strong.Muffin continuing to beat himself up about his "useless" Town Role even though what it did on N1 to Kyan's Bomb could actually cost us the win
Blargonaut
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hmm, gonna refrain from barging into the room with my shit-eating grin for a bit longer (unless y'all need me to say anything in particular), see where they wander after your vote on me Nat
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah I think that’s okay. Fingers crossed we can get Muffin just for the extra wiggle room, but if the wind seems to blow your way just have your fun lol
Hey @Franconp are you enjoying the game? :) I think it's a lot of fun and most of the players seem to have a good time as well. Thank you for your efforts!
Please give a shout-out to the spectator thread, I hope they like the show! I'm wondering how many of us they've got in their sights and who they are screaming at right now :D
Please give a shout-out to the spectator thread, I hope they like the show! I'm wondering how many of us they've got in their sights and who they are screaming at right now :D
Useful later:
N1 chat invite, N2 "nothing", N3 selfwatch, N4 possible inves or N5 mod confirm
Flush could absorb this and prevent a nk
N1 chat invite, N2 "nothing", N3 selfwatch, N4 possible inves or N5 mod confirm
Description: Start out with a 1-shot bullet proof. During the night phase, choose a target using the command Guard: Player.
There are two possible outcomes:
If the target is the target of a night kill, this shot will be redirected to the bodyguard. If the bullet proof is still available it will be used up, otherwise the bodyguard will die instead.
If at the end of the night there would be two or more unblocked kills, those kills are prevented and only the target of the bodyguard dies instead, even if they were not a target for a kill. This ability can only be activated if the bullet proof has not been used up, and said bullet proof will be used up in the process.
The player is informed when the bullet proof is used.
There are two possible outcomes:
If the target is the target of a night kill, this shot will be redirected to the bodyguard. If the bullet proof is still available it will be used up, otherwise the bodyguard will die instead.
If at the end of the night there would be two or more unblocked kills, those kills are prevented and only the target of the bodyguard dies instead, even if they were not a target for a kill. This ability can only be activated if the bullet proof has not been used up, and said bullet proof will be used up in the process.
The player is informed when the bullet proof is used.
just saw this:
lmao, you had me worried there for a second
I was still doubting if it applies to him, but you are right. Otherwise he'd shoot someone in the face today (stu role). So no real reason to worry.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, I tentatively feel like we should be okay. I will say Flush (I'm sorry for always calling you Royal friend) made a really cool role. Smart to remove the role from flips to try and stop scum from grabbing it. A lot of foresight on his part with that one. Also of course he has them all saved.. wonder why.. lol
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
The same limitations apply, he said that in thresh-3.
Blargonaut
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heh
Using Kalor's Power, right?
When is this gonna happen?
Using Kalor's Power, right?
When is this gonna happen?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Tomorrow most likely, but we can probably juke them out if we manage to kill Flush tonight still. Need to see what happens today first. If Muffin goes today and kyaa goes boom to great effect the game will be over before the 24 hour mark hits anyways.
Blargonaut
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I'll self-vote immediately Tomorrow at Day-start just to make sure
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I'm safe, that is
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
You can't, we need your vote free for possible open wolfing. If your vote is stuck on yourself and it goes to 3-3 or even 2-3 I don't know if we would win since your vote is effectively neutralized. We'll just see what happens if kyaa booms and worry about it from there. Bomb can't explode until 24 hours in.
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oh yeah shit, of course, knew that
I haven't really thought about it but there's no possibility there's a Bomb on me Today, right?
I haven't really thought about it but there's no possibility there's a Bomb on me Today, right?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
None
Blargonaut
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ROLE-CLAIM CONCEPT: I have a 1-shot Lunchproof and if I do get lunched, I survive then get to pick 2 players from the group that lunched me and learn their Alignments. Each Night I can pick a target to make all votes made against them the next Day locked-on, but my target also becomes immune to Daytime Powers during that whole Day only. And if I self-vote I become immune to Daytime Powers etc. etc.
Blargonaut
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"I vote-locked stu during N1 and it's just highly unfortunate that my N1 target-choice happened to be PERFECT COMBO'd by Neutral!Kalor's vote-bomb without me knowing", though, right?
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okay, okay I guess it'd be very Bad to publicly take ownership of it.
*crosses out unnecessary explanation of villainous method by which I defeated the heroes*
*crosses out unnecessary explanation of villainous method by which I defeated the heroes*
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There's definitely the risk of Muffin's Power last Night having interfered with my Unlunchable. I don't think there's any way to tell unless Muffin really does control it and hubris'd some target breadcrumbs out somewhere that we could maybe notice.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I don't think Muffin is lying about it being random - he's too heated. Since it's a perk, I'm not sure if it would even be interacted with by Muffin's role. I don't know that we should force the vote by outting any of us though, let them come to it on their own just to be safe. Tomorrow is where we will go bananas.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
If we hammer on purpose, the way I can accept is to have Blarg do it by agitating the common folk against him. Push town to hammer.
But if we are afraid of Muffin fucking us over, don't do that. I am perfectly fine myself with letting this play out for some, though I have no idea how Blarg can play in a way that does somehow lead to the hammer anyway. The worst case scenario here is this turning into Blarg versus Gorlak or something and we can control, hopefully, back to Blarg if necessary.
But if we are afraid of Muffin fucking us over, don't do that. I am perfectly fine myself with letting this play out for some, though I have no idea how Blarg can play in a way that does somehow lead to the hammer anyway. The worst case scenario here is this turning into Blarg versus Gorlak or something and we can control, hopefully, back to Blarg if necessary.
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hmm hmm hmm.
Muffin's displays of apparent frustration seem to be serving to deter the others from pressuring him further, might even save him from lunch Today.
Do you think it would be too honestly provoking and in bad taste if I quoted one of his miscellaneous despondent hostilities and posted the following as a single-GIF reply to it:
Muffin's displays of apparent frustration seem to be serving to deter the others from pressuring him further, might even save him from lunch Today.
Do you think it would be too honestly provoking and in bad taste if I quoted one of his miscellaneous despondent hostilities and posted the following as a single-GIF reply to it:
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I ask because I can't really parse now whether his ultimate despair is genuine or not
Blargonaut
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Maybe it's because his Role wasn't Random to begin, he got a Narfing before game began and that's why he's testy about it?
No need to respond to this Fran I am the picture of tact and won't do anything truly untoward
No need to respond to this Fran I am the picture of tact and won't do anything truly untoward
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
The angry narrow-focused defeatist townie is the most fearsome play both sides can face in this game. There is no moral way to win against that or to solve that. It goes against the game's premise of talking things through and solving them. Only the townie can solve the play or die to it. I really hate that this is a fact.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, it’s not particularly fun to engage with whatsoever. Like we probably had a chance to get him voted out today but because he threw a tantrum and took his ball and went home that chance is basically nil.
Blargonaut
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I should try it one time just to see how y'all would react to Carnage "There will be Blarnage" Blargonaut
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
No. Blarg is fun. Blarg no do no-fun things. Bad Blarg.
Blargonaut
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Blarnage "I'm done with you" "You have no future" "Can't you tell when somebody's being honest" "I can't fucking play this game with you voting against me" "Are you calling me bad at this game?" "Why?" "Why?" "Why?" "Why?" "Why?" "Why?" "Why?" "Why?" Carnaut
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Pushing for Blarg is fine, that’ll just further cement that it’s “too quiet” etc etc. I more meant Blarg himself doesn’t need to go and try and get himself voted out yet, nor should we try and manufacture the swing to Muffin.
The world can’t handle an angry Blarg
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Blarnage "I'm so fucking pissed right now" "Don't stop now that I've never been this fucking angry at reading my entire life" "I can't help it if you don't understand how nothing works" Carbage
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...but sadly, we will never know what happened next in that particular timeline
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The paths diverge and which road shall be taken
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Hey go for it if it’s what your heart desires. Fly true my friend
The paths diverge and which road shall be taken
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Quite a wall the thread's hit, everybody's just shuffling their feet around the pieces poking each other but you know they're just gonna kick at me once that shock's worn off. gotta slow-cook my approach to this, one sec
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Gotta approach Town!?Muffin with a KILLING WITH KINDNESS technique so that if we manage to get into melee range, Town won't feel guilty about taking responsibility for inviting him to a merciful luncheon