Blargonaut
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yeah... I think I'll concur with the Sawneeks route; it'd indeed probs be easier to influence Town, towards a nin luncheon
Scum Thread Phantom Troupe
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Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Okay, leaving that kill as is then. That just leave us with the B-Dubs switch. I'm going to submit on his behalf if he doesn't show and just hope Fran accepts it.
*B-Dubs voice* SWITCH: B-Dubs, Zippedpinhead
Just so we have something down. If you all want different targets say so soon.
Also Monkey MAY ITA. Unclear. She's waffling.
*B-Dubs voice* SWITCH: B-Dubs, Zippedpinhead
Just so we have something down. If you all want different targets say so soon.
Also Monkey MAY ITA. Unclear. She's waffling.
Blargonaut
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I hope she does/did
Franconp
Frank
This is a no. B-dubs should have used it.
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Kyanrute
kyan-rute
ITT... in the thread? Must be that.
Less than I'd like. Or even lazy. Haven't yet done the work to support my supposed slightly suspicious stance toward him. I don't think it is bad yet, but it will be if I don't do some work on the day to come and I plan to do that.
I'm not too keen on being too pushy but I don't think my read will be better than uncertain at best.
Less than I'd like. Or even lazy. Haven't yet done the work to support my supposed slightly suspicious stance toward him. I don't think it is bad yet, but it will be if I don't do some work on the day to come and I plan to do that.
I'm not too keen on being too pushy but I don't think my read will be better than uncertain at best.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah that seems fair. We technically appear to be in a good position, but we’re one bad night action away from being in a bad one it feels like.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
And there is the apparent issue that town is powering up while we are possibly taking a hit soon. We do have reasonable comeback capability but we need to die for it. We win if we can get the ratio close enough but we are on limited time to do so. In some ways it comes down to very vanilla things: town reading the crowd and scum playing it.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
9-5 LY B-Dubs
9-4 NK Zipped, Gift Vere
8-4 LY Salva
8-3 NK nin, NK A, Gift Muffin
6-3, go boom, 2-2 if all land (not a guarantee)
This is just an example of why it feels like we're in a good spot. We could lose scum every day and technically be okay depending on the way other actions fall. Obviously the above isn't the path we're targeting but still.
9-4 NK Zipped, Gift Vere
8-4 LY Salva
8-3 NK nin, NK A, Gift Muffin
6-3, go boom, 2-2 if all land (not a guarantee)
This is just an example of why it feels like we're in a good spot. We could lose scum every day and technically be okay depending on the way other actions fall. Obviously the above isn't the path we're targeting but still.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, makes sense why it never got mentioned. Not the end of the world seeing as we just got an extra town death anyways.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
As long as no one visited me N2 I should be okay. We'll see.
Oh durr, still good luck.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Oh, also a good point. Yay us!
SalvaPot
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It did maatter, picking nin would have make him survive because of his vest.
SalvaPot
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I assume you know royal got no bomb because you got a notification with monkey, but not with royal?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I would assume more that Saw's action says kyaa didn't move when he did. Though kyaa also never got the forced role name claim so idk.
SalvaPot
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Either way the only explanation is muffin. Either muffin revesed the action on Sawnee (As muffin explained, it gives the opposite result for investigation roles), or it reversed the bomb on kyan, meaning he bombed himself.
It could be the first one and also that Royal couldn't be targeted.
We can know for sure if Kya got any type of confirmation.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
No, I don't get any notification, it is Sneeks. I did not move N1. But I should have. I think I was blocked. Muffin redirecting to me should've, I think, shown me self-targeting.
SalvaPot
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Blarg should probably use unkillable and go to either Royal or Vere, both are confirmed.
Also this game now has more cops than Harry Potter.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I don't think self-targeting counts as a visit fwiw.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
Ok, not discounting Muffin out then.
SalvaPot
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Shit, so whoever took this probably already got a result and is now making a chat. Thankfully they take Natiko again.
Blargonaut
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Might not be a Thief per se, but a Role that "eats corpses" / Janitors Role-flips to fuel their own set of Powers.
Was a concept I was toying with for my own [Mafia] idea(s)
Was a concept I was toying with for my own [Mafia] idea(s)
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dunno if who we've got left seems like such a creative type as that but underestimate others I shall not
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bah gawd This 3-player Confirmed Town-core of Vere, Royal and Donna is troublesome
SalvaPot
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That one would be cool, too, but then you'll have to wonder why target sorian or geno instead, of , say, turm. What is the difference?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Nah. Zipped had a different chat name and used his own account. Geno’s power used a costume account.
Also, this line of questioning by Royal makes me think I’m about to get royally (hah) screwed. I’m going to throw B-Dubs under the bus as hard as humanly possible if Royal is the thief and used Sorian’s power on me and Dubs.
SalvaPot
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dub died for this. Dub MVP.
SalvaPot
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Yeah he might have targeted you on n1 and got blocked.
SalvaPot
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You can't reveal the ascectic, it makes you too strong. BUT you can claim you got a visited by a girl that made you play a boardgame, and also made you choose between different abilities, and you could only pick one.
Only if its 100% neccesary.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
That’s definitely a play I can try for. Not sure how that would work for N1. I also just don’t want to talk about it in the game if at all possible though because it gets into weird territory due to getting into the chats. I was 100% targeted N1 by Zipped. It’s just a weird position to be in. Going to hope Royal doesn’t reveal anything that forces the topic.
SalvaPot
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Well, there is no way to know he moved. The only way royal could have caught him is if royal was on the target (Sawneeks) and saw Natiko visiting him. And then Royal would be sure Natiko killed her, he wouldn't need to interrogate or fish for it.
So the other option is that Royal targeted Natiko but couldn't get a result. So, yeah, either Natiko is protected or he is ascectic.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
His questions didn’t feel like someone ramping up to saying he saw me visit Saw. If that’s what this is about I feel like he would’ve just outted it instantly. That’s like rock solid. Instead he needed to ask clarifications and stuff. I don’t know. Maybe he’s just making sure I dig a deep enough hole before burying me.
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I wouldn't worry about it
Best-worst case: R_F picked up Sorian's thing and used it on you Natiko, but encountered an error (no result); he's probs just gonna believe in the end that he got fucked with by scum who interrupted him last Night (seeing as how Sawneeks outed him as a Confirmed Town, thus warranting that kind of attention from scum), or maybe even that Muffin's WEATHER fucked with his move last Night.
Best-worst case: R_F picked up Sorian's thing and used it on you Natiko, but encountered an error (no result); he's probs just gonna believe in the end that he got fucked with by scum who interrupted him last Night (seeing as how Sawneeks outed him as a Confirmed Town, thus warranting that kind of attention from scum), or maybe even that Muffin's WEATHER fucked with his move last Night.
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Althought the wording from Sawneeks' Role-flip COULD indeed be interpreted as you being Ascetic instead of her having been interrupted/interfered with last Night by scum towards protecting you scum!Natiko; that's a couple levels high up there in the tower of possibilities, right?
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wait for my own confusion's sake; does our B-Dubs actually have a Day-Vig shot to use?
SalvaPot
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Sadly, no, Fran rules the shot was already wasted.
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Being Ascetic by [Mafia]-definition explicitly stipulates that you cannot be fucked with at Night except fatally so
There's no shit in [Mafia]: The Party Game's vanilla existence that can pierce Ascetic or turn it off, except kills
barring custom shit
And I highly doubt somebody in this game made a "ASCETIC TURNER-OFFER" Role
There's no shit in [Mafia]: The Party Game's vanilla existence that can pierce Ascetic or turn it off, except kills
barring custom shit
And I highly doubt somebody in this game made a "ASCETIC TURNER-OFFER" Role
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*an
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
Full paranoia mode? Base rule breaking stuff like ascetic-breaching might've been possible to get in, but that is such a strong deviation from standard that no way would that get in without heavy restrictions and being pretty much nothing else. And possibly very useless, so nobody would even roll that anyway.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
We’ll just have to see. If he reveals something I’ll try and scramble up an explanation. We have a few possibilities - Muffin, a phantom roleblocker, a switcher, Salva boosts, who knows.
She did not. I got the impression that whatever it was Royal got screwed over by Kalor being neutral - he said that was the worst possible outcome. That said, didn’t he say he did that N1? So maybe he tried it again N2 and picked me only to have it fail as well. I really don’t know.
SalvaPot
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Ok, I think dubs has one more play. He can bait out whoever is taking the thief roles.
He reveals his role steals powers from dead players before the day ends and erases the description. He can mention that he did take the sorian cop role and used it on two players Monkey and Natiko, but one of them came scum. So he used his chat to target this two players and try to figure out who it was, but felt he couldn't reveal the result because he didn't want to alert the scum chat that dubs knew he was after one of them.
But now that he is getting voted, there is no reason to keep it to himself.
Players would obviously not believe him, and when he flips it would obviously prove he was lying. But there is a chance the person who actually took the roles might come forward and reveal.
What do you guys think, too risky?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Considering his chat with us didn’t go anywhere in that territory he would probably be better off faking to have used it in some other way.
Also blarg is right that even a watcher couldn’t observe me moving so I should be fine. He probably did whatever his two target thing was and failed. If so I can just say maybe it was a block, maybe it was muffin, and hope for the best.
Also blarg is right that even a watcher couldn’t observe me moving so I should be fine. He probably did whatever his two target thing was and failed. If so I can just say maybe it was a block, maybe it was muffin, and hope for the best.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
We can make educated guesses about who has what now. The unknowns:
[He/Him] Royal_Flush - UTC+2
[He/Him] Verelios - UTC-4
[He/Him] malus - UTC+2
[She/Her] empressdonna|Donna - UTC+1
One of these is the Zombie.
Royal does something to two targets, one dies and the second receives something based on the alignment of the first. Not the Zombie?
Vere had those hints of visiting distant places or having a GUN. Zombie?
malus is neutered. A neutered Zombie? But the roles are vanishing so maybe not him?
We have no straight hints about what Donna is but given her reads and my stoicism during N1, did she block me? She also said she became a bit more trusting toward me after the night, was that because her block did not prevent a kill? Zombie?
Vere > Donna > malus > Royal. Is it Vere? Donna would've checked me or Blarg as one of the two with Sorian's power.
[He/Him] Royal_Flush - UTC+2
[He/Him] Verelios - UTC-4
[He/Him] malus - UTC+2
[She/Her] empressdonna|Donna - UTC+1
One of these is the Zombie.
Royal does something to two targets, one dies and the second receives something based on the alignment of the first. Not the Zombie?
Vere had those hints of visiting distant places or having a GUN. Zombie?
malus is neutered. A neutered Zombie? But the roles are vanishing so maybe not him?
We have no straight hints about what Donna is but given her reads and my stoicism during N1, did she block me? She also said she became a bit more trusting toward me after the night, was that because her block did not prevent a kill? Zombie?
Vere > Donna > malus > Royal. Is it Vere? Donna would've checked me or Blarg as one of the two with Sorian's power.
SalvaPot
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I don't want to speculate a lot here because that makes me slip in the town thread. I'm waiting until night, lol.
SalvaPot
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Weeeell, since the main thread is dead I guess I can work on it for a bit, I'll be back.
Blargonaut
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And Nat, if it ever starts going sideways for you as-in Dr. M starts to really suspect you for whatever reason, you get to post this:
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But ideally within the game-thread just before we're about to win no matter what and right before Kyan decides to trigger the BOMB
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So you Bombed yourself?
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The only thing that can pierce Nat's Ascetic is Muffin's inclement weather possibly causing Nat to kill himself?
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I like it
B-Dubs if you're going down you may as well go down fucking with them
ham it up, you know
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If I were in your position though, B-Dubs, I'd actually go after Dr. M & Natiko a bit, like in a "I invited you to my house and THIS is how you treat me?!" sorta way.
all the while little-by-little shunting people's attention towards malus and Muffin, you know, a little whatabouts, a little what've-they-done, you know
all the while little-by-little shunting people's attention towards malus and Muffin, you know, a little whatabouts, a little what've-they-done, you know
Blargonaut
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btw Salva I'm picking UNLUNCHABLE as my 1-time perk from your gifting, TY
Any objection(s)? Or 5ever hold your peace
Any objection(s)? Or 5ever hold your peace