Scum Thread The Spine of the World

[Aeleus]

Good luck scum, all rules apply here but feel free to share role PMs.

Here's some fake flavour names I've cooked up for you if you feel the need to fake a PR
Lillian Platt
Maximilias Darzi
Bailey Gilande
Subject Not Found

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

WELL WELL WELL MAOL

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Here's my role:

You were responsible for the heinous acts perpetrated against the city of Cloudbank. You had thought that your worst sin of all was that there would be no justice, that you would all share the same sentence. But now she’s brought the Transistor. You can turn things around, you can save the city you love so deeply. You just need that sword. And you can’t let anything get it your way.

You are Sybil Reisz, Temporary Godmother and limited Night Vigilante. Your reputation in elite circles and your friendship with Red will do you well, at least while she’s still alive.

While Red is alive investigative roles targeting you will always receive a positive result. If Red leaves the game you lose your Godmother Status, your long standing friendship no longer meaning anything.

In its place you receive a 1-shot Vigilante shot to be used during the night with the command I won’t save you: <Player Name>. This shot can only be used on those who Red had voted for before Red’s elimination.

You share a faction kill with your team that you may perform once per night with the command kill: <PLAYER NAME>. You may not use your power and the faction kill on the same night unless you are the last Camerata player alive.

You are aligned with The Camerata (that’s the mafia) and win when mafia control 50% of the vote.

 

[Maolfunction]

WELL WELL WELL MAOL

lmao, guess I can't come after you this time.

My role:

You were responsible for the heinous acts perpetrated against the city of Cloudbank. You had thought that your worst sin of all was that there would be no justice, that you would all share the same sentence. But now she’s brought the Transistor. You can turn things around, you can save the city you love so deeply. You just need that sword. And you can’t let anything get it your way.

You are Grant Kendrell, an odd-night roleblocking lover. A well known administrator your authority can quite literally stop those around you in their tracks.

You share a connection with your husband, Stantastic if either of you are eliminated you will both be removed from the game. In addition to this on odd nights you can use the command roleblock: <Player Name> to stop the actions of the targeted player for the night.

You share a faction kill with your team that you may perform once per night with the command kill: <PLAYER NAME>. You may not use your power and the faction kill on the same night.

You are aligned with The Camerata (that’s the mafia) and win when mafia control 50% of the vote.

The game thread is here: HERE
The mafia thread is here: HERE
Your fellow mafia members are: Hawthorn, LaunchpadMcQ, Stantastic

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

lmao, guess I can't come after you this time.

My role:

Well, that’s a lot to unpack and explains why they’ve give me two kills if everyone else is dead lol

 

[Hawthorn]

Hello everyone! I'm in the mafia in my first game again, just like when I played briefly 5 years ago. Hoping my nerves will hold up this time XD

Here is my role PM:

You are Royce Bracket, a Transistor Wielding JOAT, as the skilled engineer of the original transistor you’ve managed to create an imitation which grants you and your team a variety of benefits.

During the night you can use one of three 1-shot abilities. These abilities cannot target Red.
Mask(): If you are killed you will not flip with a role PM, this effect lasts until the next night
Crash(): <Player Name>: Delays all actions by or against the targeted player by one night
Purge(): Turns the faction kill that night into a delayed strong kill which eliminates the target at the end of the next day phase

In addition to this you know that one of your allies Geno is a lone wolf and does not know who their fellow mafia are. During the night instead of your other abilities you can use the command Help(): <Player Name>: The lone wolf will be informed that the targeted player is town. You can repeat this command but only if the player previously targeted has died.

I wasn't sure if all of us got the info about Geno or only I did.

Also looks like whoever is Red affects two of our PMs so far. I wonder if the town will also have powers that reference her.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Hello everyone! I'm in the mafia in my first game again, just like when I played briefly 5 years ago. Hoping my nerves will hold up this time XD

Here is my role PM:

You are Royce Bracket, a Transistor Wielding JOAT, as the skilled engineer of the original transistor you’ve managed to create an imitation which grants you and your team a variety of benefits.

During the night you can use one of three 1-shot abilities. These abilities cannot target Red.
Mask(): If you are killed you will not flip with a role PM, this effect lasts until the next night
Crash(): <Player Name>: Delays all actions by or against the targeted player by one night
Purge(): Turns the faction kill that night into a delayed strong kill which eliminates the target at the end of the next day phase

In addition to this you know that one of your allies Geno is a lone wolf and does not know who their fellow mafia are. During the night instead of your other abilities you can use the command Help(): <Player Name>: The lone wolf will be informed that the targeted player is town. You can repeat this command but only if the player previously targeted has died.

I wasn't sure if all of us got the info about Geno or only I did.

Also looks like whoever is Red affects two of our PMs so far. I wonder if the town will also have powers that reference her.

Fun!

I did not get anything about Geno, so that’s good info. That adds another wrinkle and another thing to keep track of.

That’s a lot of interesting details there. I do think there are likely town players who have roles that reference Red. In addition to all that, you’re in a position to suss out Red if we need to get rid of them.

 

[Hawthorn]

Yes, many balls in the air so far! In terms of my own powers, I was thinking that mask would be good if it starts to seem like I'll be voted out, just to add the element of uncertainty. Although maybe people would assume it was a mafia power anyway? The others I'm not sure of yet, maybe best to see how it plays out.

In addition to all that, you’re in a position to suss out Red if we need to get rid of them.

I'm not quite sure how! Maybe if I try to use my powers and get a message that they didn't work?

I think the lone wolf aspect will be really interesting. I like how interrelated all the powers seem to be.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Yes, many balls in the air so far! In terms of my own powers, I was thinking that mask would be good if it starts to seem like I'll be voted out, just to add the element of uncertainty. Although maybe people would assume it was a mafia power anyway? The others I'm not sure of yet, maybe best to see how it plays out.



I'm not quite sure how! Maybe if I try to use my powers and get a message that they didn't work?

I think the lone wolf aspect will be really interesting. I like how interrelated all the powers seem to be.

To your first point, you’re correct there. It’ll delay them figuring out what actions you were responsible for in the game until you’re death, and they won’t find out the part about the lone wolf for another day.

To your question, yes that’s exactly right. Not having your ability work would be because you hit Red.

This is a bit more complex than I’m used to, but it should be fun!

 

[Maolfunction]

With Mask, if Hawthorn is killed at night, town may think she was janned the following day. Won't mean too much overall, but we might be able to use that confusion during that one phase to our advantage.

 

[Stantastic]

Whatsup yall, this is me:

You are Asher Kendrell, an even-night role cop lover. Long standing editor of the OVC and in charge of finding suitable candidates for integration you’ll be able to use your expertise in reading people to great effect, as long as your loyalty to your partner doesn’t get in the way.

You share a connection with your husband, Maolfunction if either of you are eliminated you will both be removed from the game.

In addition to this on even nights you can use the command investigate: <Player Name> to find out the role of the targeted player.

You share a faction kill with your team that you may perform once per night with the command kill: <PLAYER NAME>. You may not use your power and the faction kill on the same night.

You are aligned with The Camerata (that’s the mafia) and win when mafia control 50% of the vote.

A cop and a lover, i have become everything i swore never to be.

 

[Aeleus]

Quick clarification on mask: "this effect lasts until the next night " relates to the duration of the abilities condition (so if Hawthorn is killed/lunched that night or the following day phase she will not flip with a role PM) , not its effect (if she flips without a role PM it will not be seen for the rest of the game unless another ability specifies otherwise)

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Quick clarification on mask: "this effect lasts until the next night " relates to the duration of the abilities condition (so if Hawthorn is killed/lunched that night or the following day phase she will not flip with a role PM) , not its effect (if she flips without a role PM it will not be seen for the rest of the game unless another ability specifies otherwise)

Oooooh ok, thanks for clarifying that.

 

[Hawthorn]

IMO we should avoid killing any of each other at night though, I say purely for the good of the mafia!

Stantastic, your role looks really helpful (the investigation part I mean)

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

IMO we should avoid killing any of each other at night though, I say purely for the good of the mafia!

Trust nobody... not even yourself.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I'm going to have to change my style for this game somewhat to avoid drawing suspicion from folks who participated in/specced the last game. This is always subject to change because I came into the last game with an idea of how my scum play would go, but I got too much heat on D2 (thanks to my new friend Maol!).

I'm thinking my play is going to be pretty reserved in terms of activity. I'm going to act like my change in playstyle is because I have an important power role. My prospective roleclaim is going to be just the one-shot vig part of my role, including that I can't use it until Red is dead. I haven't played Transistor all the way through, but think Subject Not Found would best fit that roleclaim.
Ideally, if I'm reserved enough that people get suspicious of me, I'll be investigated and cleared.

On the subject of investigative roles, I have a sneaking suspicion that there's more to that. Our side has the role name investigation, which is going to be very useful, but given how our roles are named, I think it's only going to give us a vague idea of how the role works. Nothing we can do about that, but it's something to keep in mind when we're considering night actions. There might be a wrinkle we're not seeing.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

WELLLL ALRIGHT THEN

 

[Hawthorn]

Launchpad, that makes sense to me for a possible role claim.

I haven't played transistor at all-- I watched part of a lets play, but really only the first half hour or so. I just know that Red is the main character. Are our characters named after the villains from the game?

I'm really hoping I can take advantage of the fact that I'm new and nobody knows how I usually post!

 

[Hawthorn]

Oh wow! I just saw the first post, well that changes the analysis

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Launchpad, that makes sense to me for a possible role claim.

I haven't played transistor at all-- I watched part of a lets play, but really only the first half hour or so. I just know that Red is the main character. Are our characters named after the villains from the game?

I'm really hoping I can take advantage of the fact that I'm new and nobody knows how I usually post!

I think they are the villains of the game, yeah. It’ll be a giveaway if we claim any of them by name.

Totally take advantage of people not knowing how you play. People won’t be sure, but if you’re not playing a super reserved style, they’ll let you skate by. Uzzy got lynched last game for coming off as too careful, despite just being a vanilla.

 

[Maolfunction]

I think they are the villains of the game, yeah. It’ll be a giveaway if we claim any of them by name.

Totally take advantage of people not knowing how you play. People won’t be sure, but if you’re not playing a super reserved style, they’ll let you skate by. Uzzy got lynched last game for coming off as too careful, despite just being a vanilla.

Last game was a bit smaller. You can definitely skate by a bit longer with reserved play if that's how you want to shake it, but you'll have to pick it up at the midpoint otherwise people will notice and start eyeing you.

I'm not planning on playing this game much differently from my last one. I want to zero in on people playing inconsistently or sloppily and try to rally town against those players. Of course, I'll be wrong from town's perspective, but with how I played the last game it shouldn't come off as an alignment tell right away.

I may try to pocket Terra too, having a confirmed townie friendly to one of us may help with our longevity in the game overall, but I'm gonna be very careful about it if I go for that angle. Don't want people thinking I'm targeting him.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

If Red’s identity is just out there, the role must have some sort of protection. That might be what Hawthorne’s delayed strong kill is for.

 

[Maolfunction]

If Red’s identity is just out there, the role must have some sort of protection. That might be what Hawthorne’s delayed strong kill is for.

Not necessarily. Innocent children aren't usually equipped with night protection. A potential doc or bodyguard could guard them N1, but really I think the thing that would stop us killing Terra N1 is the loss of some of the perks of your role for example. It might not be wise to lose your godmother protection so early.

 

[Hawthorn]

Maolfunction, definitely, I'll try not to be too inactive. Not jumping in until there are more posts though, I don't want to be one of the first to post!

The delayed strong kill can't target Red-- I think maybe there isn't any protection beyond our incentive not to kill and lose the godmother role.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Not necessarily. Innocent children aren't usually equipped with night protection. A potential doc or bodyguard could guard them N1, but really I think the thing that would stop us killing Terra N1 is the loss of some of the perks of your role for example. It might not be wise to lose your godmother protection so early.

Maolfunction, definitely, I'll try not to be too inactive. Not jumping in until there are more posts though, I don't want to be one of the first to post!

The delayed strong kill can't target Red-- I think maybe there isn't any protection beyond our incentive not to kill and lose the godmother role.

Ah yeah, you’re both right

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Never underestimate town’s ability to tear itself apart lol

 

[Maolfunction]

Never underestimate town’s ability to tear itself apart lol

D1. It'd be weird if they didn't this early in.

 

[Hawthorn]

Do either of you think it's possible that Turmoil may know about Geno being the lone wolf? Or is that crazy??

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Do either of you think it's possible that Turmoil may know about Geno being the lone wolf? Or is that crazy??

I don’t think Turmoil knows anything

 

[Maolfunction]

It's crazy, lol. Doubt town has a role that tells the identity of a mafian right off the bat. otherwise Turm would straight up claim.

 

[Hawthorn]

Yeah, that may have been a bit paranoid XD

 

[Stantastic]

im going to play how i normally do, which is to say mostly shitpost and occasionally make hyperspecific intensive reads following a logic that sounds plausible but only i care about so the conclusion is irrelevant to how the game actually goes.
should be fun, look forward to this.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

well, nothing to do now except double down on being a wildcard

 

[Stantastic]

Launch imma be a jerk to you i promise i dont mean it tho.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Likewise. It's all good.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I’m going to make really weak arguments, but stick with you and Geno, Stan. You likely won’t get traction as a train, but I’m just going to double down on it.

 

[Stantastic]

I’m going to make really weak arguments, but stick with you and Geno, Stan. You likely won’t get traction as a train, but I’m just going to double down on it.

yeah go for it, i dont see anyone running with your arguments and even if they do i think i could handle it well enough, and i think they will also land you in the "to scummy to be scum" window that town always leaves way way too wide

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Absolutely haha

Poor Geno though. For whenever you read this, sorry!

 

[Stantastic]

top tier dramatic irony that im calling you on a terrible idea when it actually has "caught" two scum.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I’d have gone after literally anyone who responded that way, it’s just a funny coincidence lol

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

hopefully that whole show of stupidity and stubbornness earlier was enough to get an investigation on me tonight

 

[Hawthorn]

Wow, I read through the thread and you guys really tore each other apart there!

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

So if Geno has me at the top of his shit list, I wonder if he’d get the hint if we use Hawthorn's Help() command on a player that is not me...

 

[Hawthorn]

Yeah, I think that's a good idea! Probably we should use the command on whoever gets the most votes without being voted out? That would also mean that if they're killed early, I can use the power again. Geno must have some sort of killing power, probably the idea of the messages is to get him not to target us accidentally.

I think that Stan or Launchpad should do the kill, since they don't have other active abilities they can use tonight. Whoever seems less suspicious at the end of the day? Though maybe it doesn't matter if someone sees Launchpad visit whoever is killed, since he has the godmother power?

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Yeah, I think that's a good idea! Probably we should use the command on whoever gets the most votes without being voted out? That would also mean that if they're killed early, I can use the power again. Geno must have some sort of killing power, probably the idea of the messages is to get him not to target us accidentally.

I think that Stan or Launchpad should do the kill, since they don't have other active abilities they can use tonight. Whoever seems less suspicious at the end of the day? Though maybe it doesn't matter if someone sees Launchpad visit whoever is killed, since he has the godmother power?

I'm not sure if Geno has a killing power, but I guess it wouldn't be totally crazy. He might have another ability, though.

To the question of who should carry out the kill, I asked for a clarification on what "positive result" means and the answer I got back was very specifically worded. If I get checked for alignment, the result will be town; however, I'm not sure if I would be protected if someone saw me visit another player. If I'm seen visiting another player, that will make my current fake roleclaim not make sense. I think with how much heat I've got, I have a stronger chance of being investigated than anyone else here, so at the very least tonight I shouldn't move just in case.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I guess it's worth asking, @Aeleus, would a "positive result" for a motion tracker read as "no movement"? Not sure if that's a question you want to answer.

 

[Hawthorn]

OK yeah, in that case I tend to think Stan should do the kill, since his powers are for even nights. People were suspecting him a little earlier, but it seems to have backed on a lot. Actually, it was mostly our team doing it?

 

[Hawthorn]

*backed off

 

[Aeleus]

I guess it's worth asking, @Aeleus, would a "positive result" for a motion tracker read as "no movement"? Not sure if that's a question you want to answer.

Apologies but I cannot answer that question

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Apologies but I cannot answer that question

Right on. Thanks!

Better safe than sorry then, I’d say.

 

[Maolfunction]

I agree with Stan doing the kill. If I'm gonna roleblock someone and Hawthorn uses her Help command, I think he's the most likely of the two left to be left alone tonight.

 

[Hawthorn]

Do you guys think it would seem suspicious if I switched from voting for jman to turmoil? I can't come up with a further reason to suspect jman after he responded to my post, but I don't want to be suspected for jumping on a train. Sorry to ask for hand-holding!

 

[Maolfunction]

Do you guys think it would seem suspicious if I switched from voting for jman to turmoil? I can't come up with a further reason to suspect jman after he responded to my post, but I don't want to be suspected for jumping on a train. Sorry to ask for hand-holding!

As long as you back it up with a decent explanation on why you're moving there, I don't think anyone will look at you for it. Blarg just put a vote on him with no explanation so he'll probably get more heat for that vote than you.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Do you guys think it would seem suspicious if I switched from voting for jman to turmoil? I can't come up with a further reason to suspect jman after he responded to my post, but I don't want to be suspected for jumping on a train. Sorry to ask for hand-holding!

As long as you justify it, you’re good

 

[Hawthorn]

I went ahead and did it, then like ten people posted while I was typing LOL! I think I'm still good though. Thanks for the advice :-D

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I went ahead and did it, then like ten people posted while I was typing LOL! I think I'm still good though. Thanks for the advice :-D

People are so caught up in their own bullshit, they’re not even paying attention lol

spinning town’s wheels is so much fun

 

[Hawthorn]

I feel really bad for Red Snifit

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I feel really bad for Red Snifit

I do, too. I feel bad for Uzzy, too. She went out D2 in my last game, though it was between her and me then. She seems to attract negative attention for whatever reason.

 

[Maolfunction]

I do, too. I feel bad for Uzzy, too. She went out D2 in my last game, though it was between her and me then. She seems to attract negative attention for whatever reason.

Hoping to use that to our advantage for the rest of the game, tbh.

 

[Hawthorn]

Yeah, I also think Uzzy is catching a raw deal (even though it's good for us)

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

The Kopite surge is hilarious

 

[Hawthorn]

I like Kopite because he said that he thought I was town, I hope he stays

 

[Maolfunction]

The Kopite surge is hilarious

He's making it easy.

 

[Hawthorn]

Should we be concerned about you Launchpad? I noticed that you're right behind the three top vote-getters

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Nah, don't worry about me.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I have no idea if it's a tie lmao but I love feigning panic

 

[Hawthorn]

I think it's not

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Just saw the tool come back up ahhhhh

That was so much fun

 

[Hawthorn]

I was refreshing the thread like crazy but I decided to pretend not to be around, too intense for me today

 

[Maolfunction]

it's a tie!

No it's not lol

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I was refreshing the thread like crazy but I decided to pretend not to be around, too intense for me today

hahaha

you did good! let's keep it up

 

[Hawthorn]

I have no idea if it's a tie lmao but I love feigning panic

Kind of like you told me that mafia do! XD

 

[Hawthorn]

Thank you! :-D Yeah, it's been fun so far

 

[Maolfunction]

so do we take the jman bait on the kill or do we think he's baiting us.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I totally missed his roleclaim. I think he's baiting us.

That said, even if he is baiting us, we have the option of doing that delayed strong kill. Or we could leave that for N2 when Hawthorn's had a chance to help Geno, instead try to get Jman lynched tomorrow.

 

[Hawthorn]

so do we take the jman bait on the kill or do we think he's baiting us.

That's a toughie. Those who know his style should probably decide but I think it's worth trying?

 

[Hawthorn]

I really want to try to get some info to Geno early though.

The doctor is the role that protects people, right? Could he protect himself? We could role block him and kill him but we would have spent two actions needlessly if he's lying

 

[Maolfunction]

That's a toughie. Those who know his style should probably decide but I think it's worth trying?

My concern about killing jman now is the possibility of a Watcher of someone being able to see the kill and without a Ninja I'm hesitant on going after a player with so many possible eyes on them.

I'd be content killing someone like TearablePuns just because they were able to influence the Uzzy wagon quite a bit and I'd like to get rid of the influential players quickly. Chughs falls into this category too, but out of the two, I feel Tearable will have less attention on him tonight.

Man, I was really thinking about roleblocking jman tonight too because of that weird comment he said about this being a role madness game when it's not lol.

 

[Maolfunction]

I really want to try to get some info to Geno early though.

The doctor is the role that protects people, right? Could he protect himself? We could role block him and kill him but we would have spent two actions needlessly if he's lying

He wouldn't be able to protect himself

 

[Hawthorn]

Yeah, I would be ok with Tearable Puns. He really followed up on all his questions, glad to get rid of him early so I don't have to answer them on later days!

I see what you mean about the watcher, I guess an option for Stan, if caught, would be to say that he investigated jman because of his weird behavior & role claim? He actually does have an investigative power. But maybe that is too elaborate?

In terms of who to announce as town to Geno, I'm thinking of possibly Uzzy, even though Red Snift got more votes, just because I didn't get the impression that Geno suspects Red Snift.

 

[Maolfunction]

I see what you mean about the watcher, I guess an option for Stan, if caught, would be to say that he investigated jman because of his weird behavior & role claim? He actually does have an investigative power. But maybe that is too elaborate?

In terms of who to announce as town to Geno, I'm thinking of possibly Uzzy, even though Red Snift got more votes, just because I didn't get the impression that Geno suspects Red Snift.

It'd be risky considering if it doesn't work and Stan gets lunched for it, I die with him.

I think telling Geno Uzzy is town would work fine. I want town to keep pressure on her and Snifit so if Geno adds to that pressure, it'll help with that goal.

 

[Hawthorn]

True, I forgot you would both die!

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

My concern about killing jman now is the possibility of a Watcher of someone being able to see the kill and without a Ninja I'm hesitant on going after a player with so many possible eyes on them.

I'd be content killing someone like TearablePuns just because they were able to influence the Uzzy wagon quite a bit and I'd like to get rid of the influential players quickly. Chughs falls into this category too, but out of the two, I feel Tearable will have less attention on him tonight.

Man, I was really thinking about roleblocking jman tonight too because of that weird comment he said about this being a role madness game when it's not lol.

Chuggs was definitely at the top of my list, but I'm perfectly fine with Tearable as a target. As you said, Chuggs will have more eyes on him; he's largely townread.

As for your roleblock, since I don't think this is role madness, I almost rather you not use it than throw it out randomly. That is unless anyone has an idea of who else might have a role besides Jman.

In terms of who to announce as town to Geno, I'm thinking of possibly Uzzy, even though Red Snift got more votes, just because I didn't get the impression that Geno suspects Red Snift.

Uzzy is a good choice. That'll turn Geno's attention to her.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I wonder if Help() visits Geno or the targeted player.

 

[Maolfunction]

I don't think there's any harm in using my roleblock. There's no restrictions on it other than I can only use it on odd nights and if I don't target Jman or Chuggs, I doubt I'm gonna get caught targeting someone in a way that looks scummy.

I kinda want to block Salva just in case he has a role and was actually miffed at me and thinks I'm scum and pursues it. I doubt anyone would be looking his way and even if they are, I can justify targeting Salva pretty easily with a fake claim.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I don't think there's any harm in using my roleblock. There's no restrictions on it other than I can only use it on odd nights and if I don't target Jman or Chuggs, I doubt I'm gonna get caught targeting someone in a way that looks scummy.

I kinda want to block Salva just in case he has a role and was actually miffed at me and thinks I'm scum and pursues it. I doubt anyone would be looking his way and even if they are, I can justify targeting Salva pretty easily with a fake claim.

I’m more looking at it from the perspective that odds are against us that you’ll actually hit a non-vanilla by taking a shot at random and it’s more risk than not taking an action. I’m also not sure you got enough attention to be investigated, BUT you did get some I think, so your motivation isn’t totally unwarranted there.

That said, since none of us have a role that counters motion, my educated guess is that there isn’t a watcher in this game. We’re always going to be hedging our bets on whatever action we choose, but I’d leave it up to you all to decide if and who to roleblock. I don’t really have a clue who else might have a role other than Jman.

 

[Maolfunction]

Jman was my only real guess on who had a role when day ended, but I'm not touching him with a ten foot pole right now. There's a possibility he might be, like, a bomb, and is trying to bait a night kill or something. I feel like Stan's investigative half is a thing because townies may have an incentive to lie about their roles and us being able to investigate their claims is the balance. Call me paranoid.

I think I'll be fine blocking Salva. The worse that can happen is he finds out there's a roleblocker in the game, but he'll not know who and even if he suspects me, he has a very large mountain to climb in regards to convincing other players.

That said, do we all think Stan should kill Tearable, Hawthorn uses her Help command to tell Geno Uzzy is town, and I roleblock Salva? We're probably gonna have to wait a bit for Stan's input, but that's our actions so far, yeah?

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Jman was my only real guess on who had a role when day ended, but I'm not touching him with a ten foot pole right now. There's a possibility he might be, like, a bomb, and is trying to bait a night kill or something. I feel like Stan's investigative half is a thing because townies may have an incentive to lie about their roles and us being able to investigate their claims is the balance. Call me paranoid.

I think I'll be fine blocking Salva. The worse that can happen is he finds out there's a roleblocker in the game, but he'll not know who and even if he suspects me, he has a very large mountain to climb in regards to convincing other players.

That said, do we all think Stan should kill Tearable, Hawthorn uses her Help command to tell Geno Uzzy is town, and I roleblock Salva? We're probably gonna have to wait a bit for Stan's input, but that's our actions so far, yeah?

Yep I’m good with all that

 

[Hawthorn]

Yes, I'm fine with the plan laid out so far!

 

[Stantastic]

Well that was a very entertaining EoD to catch up on. Good job on helping out the chaos.

Yeah that plan of action all sounds good to me.

 

[Stantastic]

Oh Maol i had a thought.
When it comes time to fake claim, do you think it would be a good idea to claim us as town lovers? Or just go with something that fits better with our individual powers?

I figure It could get us out of the fire at some point (it actually has for me as town lover in the past) and it would come out stronger if we planned for it ahead if time and crumbed it, but i would have no idea in what flavour bullshiting it would require, and if it happened early it would also start begging the question of scum not killing us.

 

[Maolfunction]

Oh Maol i had a thought.
When it comes time to fake claim, do you think it would be a good idea to claim us as town lovers? Or just go with something that fits better with our individual powers?

I figure It could get us out of the fire at some point (it actually has for me as town lover in the past) and it would come out stronger if we planned for it ahead if time and crumbed it, but i would have no idea in what flavour bullshiting it would require, and if it happened early it would also start begging the question of scum not killing us.

I've been thinking about that too. Right now, I think it's probably better to have individual claims early on in the game, but if we're able to get to the point of the game where we're only a couple phases from winning the game before needing to claim, than lovers will be a better option for us at that point.

I'm not familiar with the flavor either tho, so I guess I need to break out the fan wikis lol.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I’ve been wondering why 3 of our 4 roles are easy to build a fake claim off of. They actually just sound like town roles. I’m not sure what to make of that, and if there’s some landmine we might be stepping on without realizing with power roles on the town side. Maybe they have some adapted versions of traditional scum roles?

I guess I’m a bit paranoid myself.

 

[Stantastic]

I've been thinking about that too. Right now, I think it's probably better to have individual claims early on in the game, but if we're able to get to the point of the game where we're only a couple phases from winning the game before needing to claim, than lovers will be a better option for us at that point.

I'm not familiar with the flavor either tho, so I guess I need to break out the fan wikis lol.

Yeah sounds good, in the meantime i spose we should just avoid scumreading each other (which i dont think will be too hard to justify atm), else that will be hard to explain if we do end up claiming lovers.

 

[Stantastic]

Alrighty then, i should probably post this before i forget and go sleep or something.

Kill: TearablePuns

 

[Aeleus]

I'm not familiar with the flavor either tho, so I guess I need to break out the fan wikis lol.

There are links to the relevant wiki pages in the fake claims themselves <3

 

[Aeleus]

Alrighty then, i should probably post this before i forget and go sleep or something.

Kill: TearablePuns

Command Received

 

[Hawthorn]

It's up to you guys, but I guess I don't get how actually being lovers necessarily makes it more likely that the town would buy you as lovers. Dying wouldn't prove it, since you would be revealed as mafia. Having a private chat doesn't make it more plausible, because we all have a private chat. The flavor won't help because we're named after the villains so you would have to claim with fake names anyway.

To me, it seems kind of like it opens you up to possible flavor-based criticism without much real benefit-- but go with it if you think it's a good idea, you guys are much more experienced mafia strategists than I am.

I think I have to try to be more active next day, I don't want to end up on the chopping block like Red Snift and Uzzy! But I'm nervous of saying the wrong thing. Maybe I'll try to post more short posts with short observations.

Help(): Uzzy

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

It's up to you guys, but I guess I don't get how actually being lovers necessarily makes it more likely that the town would buy you as lovers. Dying wouldn't prove it, since you would be revealed as mafia. Having a private chat doesn't make it more plausible, because we all have a private chat. The flavor won't help because we're named after the villains so you would have to claim with fake names anyway.

To me, it seems kind of like it opens you up to possible flavor-based criticism without much real benefit-- but go with it if you think it's a good idea, you guys are much more experienced mafia strategists than I am.

I think I have to try to be more active next day, I don't want to end up on the chopping block like Red Snift and Uzzy! But I'm nervous of saying the wrong thing. Maybe I'll try to post more short posts with short observations.

Help(): Uzzy

Those are all valid concerns, but it’s risk that comes with the territory of fake claiming. There’s always a chance town is going to call bullshit on a roleclaim (hell, my plan for D2 is to do that to Jman lol), with or without any additional information. Maol and Stan should try to figure it out as much as they can before they’re pushed into a corner, which is the only situation I’d recommend any of us roleclaim.

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

Also, just guessing here, but since we have the role name investigation on our side, there’s little chance that town have the same role on theirs. It’s likelier they just have an alignment cop based on my role. That is it’s own problem, because if Maol and Stan are pushed into a corner and fake claim, I predict that if the alignment cop is still alive, that player will investigate one of Maol/Stan to confirm.