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Welcome scummies, you have a specific rule only you can see.
Specific Rule XVI. Mafia's kill is essentially that but they can't lose from the defender. The one who does the kill gains the territory of the defeated player, if they want they can name it a puppet territory that belongs to them and they can attack with it privately but it's unknown to who it belongs. Long range mafia kills install 2 battalions instead of moving from a territory already owned.
 
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LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Well, this is quite the team :eyes:

You are Wu Zetian

Your teammates are:
Swamped
Terraforce
Stuart444
Hawthorn

Your Chat is here: https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?threads/513/ (Note that you may not have access to it yet)

You are aligned with the Mafia You win when all threats to the Mafia are eliminated.

Your role is Mafia Godfather and 2 Shot Trap Setter, any scans on territories you own return the result of Town. Additionally at nights you can set a trap on a territory you own with the command Trap: Territory. Whenever that territory is conquered the attacker loses all battalions except 1.

Your territory of origin is China.

The Bonus for owning it is that you can attack any territories on the map with the faction kill.

You don’t have a 2nd in command.

You can’t attack at night except for the faction kill.

Faction Kill: You can normally attack an adjacent territory taking it over instantly with the command Kill: Territory, if the general is on it then it kills the player. You can also install puppet territories with 3 battalions instead of taking it over yourself, the mafia collectively owns these territories and can privately attack with them other players independently of your normal attack.
 
Hi there.

I have but one request.

Kill Chuggs during N1 if he's still alive.

It's revenge for my death last time Chuggs was scum and he advocated for my kill!

#Scum4Life #DotheScummiestThingYouKnow
 
Welcome, Stuart444

You are Kamehameha The Great

You are aligned with the Mafia You win when all threats to the Mafia are eliminated.

Your teammates are:
Launchpadmcq
Terraforce
Hawthorn
Swamped

Your Chat is here: https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?threads/513/ (Note that you may not have access to it yet)

Your role is Mafia 2 Shot Roleblocker, at nights you can select all territories a player controls at night with the command Roleblock: Player, these territories are unable to attack other territories that night and the player cannot do any actions.

Your territory of origin is Australia.

The Bonus for owning them is that they give you fog of war, other players will not know how many battalions your territories in Oceania have.

You don’t have a 2nd in command.

You can’t attack at night except for the faction kill.

Faction Kill: You can normally attack an adjacent territory taking it over instantly with the command Kill: Territory, if the general is on it then it kills the player. You can also install puppet territories with 3 battalions instead of taking it over yourself, the mafia collectively owns these territories and can privately attack with them other players independently of your normal attack.

Good luck and have fun!
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
That’s an interesting ability.

Although dang, seems like im the only one with a snipe kill. Should be fun working my way up to China lol

And the whole puppet territory concept adds an interesting layer to how we plan out kills.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
I guess I’m going to have to take Indonesia as quickly as I can at day start to make sure Kopite or Muffin don’t.
 
We have a pretty stacked team. Not bad not bad.

And lol is this like Launch's third or fourth time being scum in a row?
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Pleased to be on the same team as you Launch. You did so well tricking us last time haha
Oh, likewise. Maol instilled some real fear in me about your game solving abilities last time, and I was sweating keeping you alive even one more night than we had to.

That said, my eyes are Poliwhirl eyes trying to interpret the rules of this one, so I’m hoping folks screw up enough for us to get by this time!
 
Welcome, Terraforce

You are Oda Nobunaga

You are aligned with the Mafia You win when all threats to the Mafia are eliminated.

Your teammates are:
Launchpadmcq
Hawthorn
Stuart444
Swamped

Your Chat is here: https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?threads/513/ (Note that you may not have access to it yet)

Your role is Mafia 2 Shot Ninja and Investigation Immune, when doing the faction kill you can enter the command Ninja to be invisible to tracks and watches for your attacks that night. Additionally your territories cannot be investigated.

Your territory of origin is Japan.

The Bonus for owning it is that your 2nds in command count for 3 battalions each.

Your 2nds in command are Tokugawa Ieyasu and Toyotomi Hideyoshi.

You can attack at night.

Faction Kill: You can normally attack an adjacent territory taking it over instantly with the command Kill: Territory, if the general is on it then it kills the player. You can also install puppet territories with 3 battalions instead of taking it over yourself, the mafia collectively owns these territories and can privately attack with them other players independently of your normal attack.

Good luck and have fun!
 

Swamped

Dazzling Mafia Queen
I have to admit I haven't read my entire PM yet...we still have time before it starts right??
 

Swamped

Dazzling Mafia Queen
Welcome, Swamped

You are Otto Von Bismarck

You are aligned with the Mafia You win when all threats to the Mafia are eliminated.

Your teammates are:
Launchpadmcq
Terraforce
Stuart444
Hawthorn

Your Chat is here: https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?threads/513/ (Note that you may not have access to it yet)

Your role is Mafia 2 Shot Strongman and 1 Shot Universal Killer, at nights you can enter the command Strongman, this will make your attacks bypass any protection. Additionally with the command Universal Kill: Player, you’ll be able to make the faction kill anywhere on the map.

Your territory of origin is Northern Europe.

The Bonus for owning it is that attacking Europe is a +1 on all attacking dice rolls.

You don’t have a 2nd in command.

You can attack at night.

Faction Kill: You can normally attack an adjacent territory taking it over instantly with the command Kill: Territory, if the general is on it then it kills the player. You can also install puppet territories with 3 battalions instead of taking it over yourself, the mafia collectively owns these territories and can privately attack with them other players independently of your normal attack.

Good luck and have fun
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Hello hello! Interesting to be mafia again, and excited to play with all of you-- Terraforce and Stu, I was afraid of you guys all through Transistor XD

I feel like I barely understand the basic game rules so far, yet alone all of our special powers. A bit worried about us being identified if the night kill generally comes from adjacent territories. Will need to read everything over at least ten more times.

Here is my role pm:

Welcome, Hawthorn

You are Attila the Hun

You are aligned with the Mafia You win when all threats to the Mafia are eliminated.

Your teammates are:
Launchpadmcq
Terraforce
Stuart444
Hawthorn

Your Chat is here: https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?threads/513/ (Note that you may not have access to it yet)

Your role is Mafia 1 Shot Vigilante and 2 Shot Rolecop, once in the game when attacking a territory in a day you can instantly win without rolling dice with the command Conquer: Target Territory Name, Territory attacking from(cannot be used on a player owning a single territory). Additionally, 2 times at nights you can check the role of the player who owns a territory with the command Rolecop: Territory.

Your territory of origin is Ukraine.

The Bonus for owning it is that you can attack any territories on the map with the faction kill.

You don’t have a 2nd in command.

You can’t attack at night except for the faction kill.

Faction Kill: You can normally attack an adjacent territory taking it over instantly with the command Kill: Territory, if the general is on it then it kills the player. You can also install puppet territories with 3 battalions instead of taking it over yourself, the mafia collectively owns these territories and can privately attack with them other players independently of your normal attack.

Good luck and have fun!
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Hello hello! Interesting to be mafia again, and excited to play with all of you-- Terraforce and Stu, I was afraid of you guys all through Transistor XD

I feel like I barely understand the basic game rules so far, yet alone all of our special powers. A bit worried about us being identified if the night kill generally comes from adjacent territories. Will need to read everything over at least ten more times.

Here is my role pm:

Welcome, Hawthorn

You are Attila the Hun

You are aligned with the Mafia You win when all threats to the Mafia are eliminated.

Your teammates are:
Launchpadmcq
Terraforce
Stuart444
Hawthorn

Your Chat is here: https://www.outermafia.com/index.php?threads/513/ (Note that you may not have access to it yet)

Your role is Mafia 1 Shot Vigilante and 2 Shot Rolecop, once in the game when attacking a territory in a day you can instantly win without rolling dice with the command Conquer: Target Territory Name, Territory attacking from(cannot be used on a player owning a single territory). Additionally, 2 times at nights you can check the role of the player who owns a territory with the command Rolecop: Territory.

Your territory of origin is Ukraine.

The Bonus for owning it is that you can attack any territories on the map with the faction kill.

You don’t have a 2nd in command.

You can’t attack at night except for the faction kill.

Faction Kill: You can normally attack an adjacent territory taking it over instantly with the command Kill: Territory, if the general is on it then it kills the player. You can also install puppet territories with 3 battalions instead of taking it over yourself, the mafia collectively owns these territories and can privately attack with them other players independently of your normal attack.

Good luck and have fun!
Ahhhh another long range killer. Thank goodness.

Are you okay with me taking Indonesia to get a head start on conquering China?
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yeah go for it! I think you and I have to be careful about being seen as coordinating since we're in Oceania with just us and Kopite. I'm generally a lower activity poster, though, so I think it would seem natural if you just take Indonesia before I get around to moving anywhere. Sooner or later I'll have to go through southern Asia, though, if I ever want to get to Ukraine and get the long range kill.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Yeah go for it! I think you and I have to be careful about being seen as coordinating since we're in Oceania with just us and Kopite. I'm generally a lower activity poster, though, so I think it would seem natural if you just take Indonesia before I get around to moving anywhere. Sooner or later I'll have to go through southern Asia, though, if I ever want to get to Ukraine and get the long range kill.
Yeah, for sure. We need to figure out quite a few things here, but I’m sure we’ll get it with time. We need to get Stuart to Australia somehow... lol
 
Not at all, you can claim your normal flavor, I already explained myself in the thread.
You explained like a million things in that thread lol. I still won't know what the heck is going on for half of the game, but I guess I'll have top wing some of it.
 
You explained like a million things in that thread lol. I still won't know what the heck is going on for half of the game, but I guess I'll have top wing some of it.
True, I did try to make the rules as easy to understand as possible but my curse is that I always miss shit.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Also, if we use the puppet battalions, will they give one of us a bonus if the puppet battalions control our home territories? I tend to think we should use them, seems like it would give the game away if everyone woke up to see some of our personal battalions suddenly in command of a new territory
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Swamped is the only one who has a long-range kill to start-- if we use it right to start, we could kill some territory that none of us are adjacent to, then frame the people adjacent to it by letting the argument emerge that the mafia have to attack adjacent territories. Just throwing out an idea!

Also I don't think I've ever written "adjacent" three times in one sentence before
 
No, puppet territories don't give you bonuses because they don't belong to 1 mafia member but all of them.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Also, if we use the puppet battalions, will they give one of us a bonus if the puppet battalions control our home territories? I tend to think we should use them, seems like it would give the game away if everyone woke up to see some of our personal battalions suddenly in command of a new territory
Yeah, I’ve been thinking about this. It seems implied that some other folks have night attacks too, but that it probably isn’t as strong as one of our kills - probably more similar to day attacks. I think a few of us can make that argument and say oh he was down to 3 battalions and I beat him with my night roll. But a full strength player dying and us showing up as the owners would be really sus.


Swamped is the only one who has a long-range kill to start-- if we use it right to start, we could kill some territory that none of us are adjacent to, then frame the people adjacent to it by letting the argument emerge that the mafia have to attack adjacent territories. Just throwing out an idea!

Also I don't think I've ever written "adjacent" three times in one sentence before
That’s a good tentative opening move. We should drop the kill in the middle of a bunch of other players so there are a bunch of options to throw shade on. Asia looks like a good jumbled mess of folks already, and it helps the two of us clear a path to our origin territories.
 
I just wanna say I'm loving the coming up with strategies y'all are doing, can't wait to see how this game will unfold.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Agree Asia looks pretty good right now, I guess it'll depend on the movements during the day somewhat, but there can't be too many changes during day 1 if everyone can only move once and attack once.

I think town attacking each other, and maybe even killing each other, will be fairly normalized at first as everyone gets into the risk mindset and tries to understand the rules-- hopefully at least!

I just wanna say I'm loving the coming up with strategies y'all are doing, can't wait to see how this game will unfold.

This game looks like it's going to be really fun! I always used to love playing Risk with my parents growing up, very nostalgic for me.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Agree Asia looks pretty good right now, I guess it'll depend on the movements during the day somewhat, but there can't be too many changes during day 1 if everyone can only move once and attack once.

I think town attacking each other, and maybe even killing each other, will be fairly normalized at first as everyone gets into the risk mindset and tries to understand the rules-- hopefully at least!



This game looks like it's going to be really fun! I always used to love playing Risk with my parents growing up, very nostalgic for me.
Good point about folks moving. We will have to revisit the decision once we know where people have landed at day end.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Poltergust’s question about how night kills work made me wonder a little if he has one..

I’m going to be stranded in Oceania with Kopite once Launchpad makes his move— thinking I may attack kopite, but only if it seems like attacking isn’t widely frowned on?

I think there’ll be a lot of chaos at the start XD

Swamped, I’m really excited to be on a team with you, I still remember you from my brief time time playing back in the day!
 

Swamped

Dazzling Mafia Queen
Poltergust’s question about how night kills work made me wonder a little if he has one..

I’m going to be stranded in Oceania with Kopite once Launchpad makes his move— thinking I may attack kopite, but only if it seems like attacking isn’t widely frowned on?

I think there’ll be a lot of chaos at the start XD

Swamped, I’m really excited to be on a team with you, I still remember you from my brief time time playing back in the day!

Aw me too!!! If only I knew what I was doing this time around lol

So, the more territories we conquer, the better, right? Regardless of if you're mafia or town?
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Poltergust’s question about how night kills work made me wonder a little if he has one..

I’m going to be stranded in Oceania with Kopite once Launchpad makes his move— thinking I may attack kopite, but only if it seems like attacking isn’t widely frowned on?

I think there’ll be a lot of chaos at the start XD

Swamped, I’m really excited to be on a team with you, I still remember you from my brief time time playing back in the day!
if it comes to it, we can have you attack my territory to get out from Oceania.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Swamped, I'm kind of unclear on that also! I guess that's the traditional Risk path to victory, but remains to be seen how it's going to interface with the more mafia-like rules. My main hope is that everyone will be so confused at the game start, and have such different interpretations of the rules, that town people will get killed by accident and it'll be difficult to make reads..

Launchpad, sounds good, and that'll also be a good opportunity to have conflict between some of us if it goes that way
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I'm going to need to make a diagram, it's incredibly unclear what's happening. I think it will slow down as people realize that they spent all their day 1 moves in the first couple hours LOL
 
Honestly I'm still confused by a lot of the new concepts lol. We'll see how this goes.

It's a shame the alliance with Vere didn't work out. I didn't even realize it at the time, but my condition is to get Japan which is where he currently resides. Crazy coincidence.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Honestly I'm still confused by a lot of the new concepts lol. We'll see how this goes.

It's a shame the alliance with Vere didn't work out. I didn't even realize it at the time, but my condition is to get Japan which is where he currently resides. Crazy coincidence.
You could always kill him :^)
 

Swamped

Dazzling Mafia Queen
I think I may have underestimated the amount of time and effort needed for this game. I think in going to have to sub out
 

Swamped

Dazzling Mafia Queen
I think my problem is I mostly play on my phone and already finding it hard to keep up lol. But this game design looks super exciting, and I hope I can follow along as a spectator! I'll be rooting for you scummies!
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Sorry to see you go, but that's totally fair!

I don't even know what I'm doing with my proposed alliance with Muffin, just busywork honestly
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
I think I may have underestimated the amount of time and effort needed for this game. I think in going to have to sub out
ah sorry to hear it, but I can totally understand that. I’ve had a busy evening and I’m having trouble keeping up with so many people posting, let alone what all they’ve done lol

Sorry to see you go, but that's totally fair!

I don't even know what I'm doing with my proposed alliance with Muffin, just busywork honestly
I was thinking it wouldn’t be a big deal to ally with Kopite, but I want him gone to ally with Stu. I’m not sure if I can get there with Stu organically D1, next opportunity to ally is D4. If I wanted to expedite it, maybe I can make it seem like I have an origin country near him to divert attention from him actually needing Australia?
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yeah, I was just thinking that about weemad! Don't want to be too transparent about wanting ukraine, so trying to think about how to phrase it. I think you did ok with the stu offer. Also good thing I saw this post b/c I almost posted that I'll take Indonesia LOL
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Yeah, I was just thinking that about weemad! Don't want to be too transparent about wanting ukraine, so trying to think about how to phrase it. I think you did ok with the stu offer. Also good thing I saw this post b/c I almost posted that I'll take Indonesia LOL
I figured the best way to come off like I’m flying by the seat of my pants to actually be flying by the seat of my pants.

Let me see if I can get in Kopite’s head and get him to drop 9 battalions on Indonesia.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Thinking of claiming that I have an ability where if I have one of the African countries (not sure which one yet, need to come up with appropriate flavor), I can night attack a neighboring territory and if the defending player has 5 or less battalions, I automatically take over the territory. That’ll take up a night kill slot, but I can show up the next day with all of Australia. Thinking about doing it N2/N3, whenever Kopite is weakened by my trap and town will at least have seen one anonymous kill to set a precedent on how night kills usually go. We can spin the yarn that a target was protected.

Also, I mistakenly thought Hawthorn had a night vig shot, but a day vig is solid cover enough to make her come off as town. That’s not usually a scum role.
 

Stantastic

Our Badminton Stanpion
ayy i can finally post here

First of all fuck yeah Launch and Hawthorn, round 2 lets see if we cant manage another perfect sweep.

secondly its nearly 3am so i need to sleep.
talk properly tomorrow, laters.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
So I didn’t know that you could only move in 4 battalions to a conquered territory, that’s interesting.

@Geno I have a question about my trap ability. It says that a player who conquers my territory will lose all battalions, but does that mean all battalions owned by the player, or those battalions that are moving into that territory?
 
So I didn’t know that you could only move in 4 battalions to a conquered territory, that’s interesting.

@Geno I have a question about my trap ability. It says that a player who conquers my territory will lose all battalions, but does that mean all battalions owned by the player, or those battalions that are moving into that territory?
All moving in, the max isn't 4, it was 4 then because jman had 5 in kamtchatka and needs to leave 1 behind
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yeah, I am a bit concerned for him. Hoping he's doing a strategy and not actually personally upset. But this turn of events is great for our team, I'm honestly not that worried about his role whether he gets voted out or not.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Yeah, this is no longer funny. I thought it was a normal instance of him getting defense. I’m not going to take advantage of that and try to push him out or laugh at him for this. What I said in the thread right now was me, not a scum me, for whenever you read this Jman. I know that wasn’t just me pushing you out there, but I take responsibility for my part in it. You’re a great and eager player who’s always trying new things and that comes with a certain amount of flak, sadly. It’s the nature of the game. Regardless, sorry that we came down on you like that.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yeah, I posted before it became clear it's definitely a real thing. I do enjoy playing with Jman a lot and I hope he's ok
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
IMO we should leave Jman alive. He's distracting from looking into anyone else and he said a bunch of times that his role could screw over town potentially-- I'm ok with rolling the dice on that
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
I agree with Hawthorn, but also the day kill thing has so many limitations we can’t just do it. I don’t think it stacks with Hawthorn being able to faction kill from anywhere, and it sounds like unless the general is in a targeted territory, she is unable to use it to actually kill a player. Someone double check me on that.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yeah, I read my daykill ability to be limited to territories adjacent to me, since it's like a bonus when using the normal day attack action
 
lmao I always try. I'm not afraid to call you all out as scum so just put up a good fight and it ideally should be painless (mostly).
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
That feeling when you catch up on the thread and think "who are all these people fighting? Oh, right, my teammates" XD
 
Stan you better speak up this game haha. I'm not sure if your lack of presence hurt and led to scumreads, or really helped you last game bc ppl forgot you were still in the game. :laughing:
 
Half of us this game are super active and the other half barely have a presence rn. Hopefully we can fix that moving forward.
 

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Yeah, I think we’ll be fine. Trying to help Stu out here a bit, but I’m sure Stan is going to have a spurt of activity in the night time.
 

Stantastic

Our Badminton Stanpion
just wait for stan to show up, we’re going to come to blows this time
Iv actually been wondering about this, like last time we absolutely nailed our fake rivalry, but everyone knows that it was faked now and i think trying it again would just seem suspicious.
Stan you better speak up this game haha. I'm not sure if your lack of presence hurt and led to scumreads, or really helped you last game bc ppl forgot you were still in the game. :laughing:
You know i was replaced in right? and that you posted this while i was asleep?
i play as much as i can, always, the rest is up to timezones.
 

Stantastic

Our Badminton Stanpion
that said youve given me the perfect opportunity to instead be a petty bitch to you this time terra, great job!
 
I meant moving forward. I'm not criticizing your current play. You replaced into a very busy game so not doing a ton at this point is understandable.
 
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