Scum Thread The Lair of The Lost

[Geno]

O shit...............Gor and Mal are confirmed then.

Gor's power redirects his target to Gor.
Mal tracked Zbeat, getting a result that zbeat tracked to mal. But with gor's power, he was actually tracking gor.

So they confirm each other.

Not rly, Mal can say whatever he wants, Gorlak can be scum redirector

I was going to say Leo and Ambulance N2, not Leo and Maol N3? The idea being it was to protect ambulance by switching him with an under the radar player

I don't think switcher is seen as a mafia role.

Oh I thought we were gonna justify my shot being refunded with Leo commuting and you switching, but that wouldn't work anyway since he would be commuting

 

[Hawthorn]

Why?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Did Gorlak say he gets a notification of what the power actually is? I don't think they fully confirm each other

There's some leeway to cause mislynch on Malus, since he claimed after Gorlak.

 

[Hawthorn]

Above was to Zeke, about Gorlak's claim meaning a switcher claim won't work, sorry.

Geno, I think there are several options:
1. I claim commuter, Leo claims something unrelated
2. Same but with me and Leo reversed.
3. Your idea: I claim switcher and say I switched Leo with Maolfunction, who you targeted
4. We both make claims unrelated to your block and you say it must have been a mafia power.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Above was to Zeke, about Gorlak's claim meaning a switcher claim won't work, sorry.

Geno, I think there are several options:
1. I claim commuter, Leo claims something unrelated
2. Same but with me and Leo reversed.
3. Your idea: I claim switcher and say I switched Leo with Maolfunction, who you targeted
4. We both make claims unrelated to your block and you say it must have been a mafia power.

Idk gor's power is sort of a redirect similar to switcher.

4. Block is almost always seen as a scum power. Especially with the fact that it's been used on town Stu and town geno.

 

[Hawthorn]

Fleshing these out:
1. I claim to be an odd-night commuter. Leo claims bullet proof. Geno says that he targetted me last night.
2. I claim to be a switcher and that I switched Leo with Ambulance on Night 2. Separately, Leo claims odd-night commuter. Geno claims that he targetted Leo last night.
3. I claim to be a switcher and that I switched Leo last night with Maolfunction. Leo claims to be bulletproof. Geno claims that he targeted Maolfunction last night.
4. I claim to be a switcher and that I switched Leo with Ambulance on Night 2. Leo claims bullet proof or commuter. Geno claims that he targeted Maolfunction and must have got hit with a mafia passive block somehow.

 

[Geno]

Above was to Zeke, about Gorlak's claim meaning a switcher claim won't work, sorry.

Geno, I think there are several options:
1. I claim commuter, Leo claims something unrelated
2. Same but with me and Leo reversed.
3. Your idea: I claim switcher and say I switched Leo with Maolfunction, who you targeted
4. We both make claims unrelated to your block and you say it must have been a mafia power.

We can't do 3, problem with 1 and 2 is that both of you didn't react to my shot being refunded and Leo didn't react to Stu saying anything, we have to do 4 although I suspect I might catch some heat once all powers are out there.

 

[Hawthorn]

Stu saw no actions performed on Geno last night, so the claim can't involve someone targeting Geno to block him unless the idea is to frame Stu. It has to be a passive effect such as a commuter.

 

[Hawthorn]

We can't do 3, problem with 1 and 2 is that both of you didn't react to my shot being refunded and Leo didn't react to Stu saying anything, we have to do 4 although I suspect I might catch some heat once all powers are out there.

I wouldn't have reacted, I think. I'm not much of a breadcrumber. I was pretty firm in saying I believe you-- if I knew why your shot was refunded that could be part of it.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Powers arent usually refunded for using them on commuters iirc.

 

[Geno]

Powers arent usually refunded for using them on commuters iirc.

We can say whatever we want here, for all we know Tearable this game decided to refund them.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Ok. Leo is Commuter and Haw is 1 shot switcher?

 

[Geno]

There's still 1 question though, why would I target Leo

 

[EzekelRAGE]

You probably shouldnt claim who you targeted? Besides it doesnt matter anyway with you saying the shot was refunded.

 

[Hawthorn]

You didn't target Maolfunction because you think he's mafia & you think your power is more likely to help than hurt

Went for Leo because you thought it would be unexpected? Noticed he was flying under the radar & thought he would be unlikely to be targeted by someone else & it would get you some info about him?

Then I'll say, I think, that I switched Ambulance and Pancakes N2, avoid too many connections, really no reason to say Leo

 

[Hawthorn]

Zeke, I agree, but if he claims commuter that's what people will assume, I think? I hope.

 

[Geno]

Powers I claimed are more likely to catch someone though, at worst I would've given him a gun or a BP vest or use a doc shot on him which wouldn't do much, at best I have several cop abilities or can outright kill him, it's a tough sell I think.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Gonna go ahead and post my full claim

 

[Hawthorn]

Powers I claimed are more likely to catch someone though, at worst I would've given him a gun or a BP vest or use a doc shot on him which wouldn't do much, at best I have several cop abilities or can outright kill him, it's a tough sell I think.

You said the opposite in the thread, though, when you were asked about why you used it N1, I think.

 

[Hawthorn]

I might post my switcher claim, for Ambulance and Pancakes N2. We can change the plan for Leo later. All good?

Just saw Zeke is going to claim, will wait a bit to see how that goes over

 

[Geno]

You said the opposite in the thread, though, when you were asked about why you used it N1, I think.

Yeah, Idk what I should do tbh.

 

[Hawthorn]

Do you think you can play it like you're confused by your admittedly very complicated role, and went back and forth in your own mind over whether it's likely to be helpful or harmful? And then you decided to deal with it by just going for a low information player, who as far as you knew could be mafia or town, thinking his reaction would give you information either way

 

[Hawthorn]

Or would you have been more likely to have gone for me? Should I claim commuter?

Leo can claim switcher if he wants, and I'll make the switch for him if he wants to demonstrate it

 

[Hawthorn]

Sorry to keep waffling here

 

[Geno]

Maybe that could work yeah, I think I would've gone for Leo.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I don't think we should be linking ourselves too much. If we do it's be like a domino effect.

Besides, there is a chance Geno may get lynched today, so don't want to link too much to him.

 

[Hawthorn]

If Leo's a commuter it would still be true even if Geno had lied about having targeted him, though. Maybe the way to do it is to have Leo claim first, but Geno not say that Leo is his target.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

but Geno not say that Leo is his target.

That makes the most sense.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Whether Gor and Zbeat believe the claim is the hurdle.

 

[Hawthorn]

I 100% forgot about Maol's trap, but I don't think it discredits my claim to have switched ambulance

 

[EzekelRAGE]

@Geno go against my maol read.

make it appear like I don’t want to lynch him. That we are scummates

 

[Geno]

@Geno go against my maol read.

make it appear like I don’t want to lynch him. That we are scummates

Yeah planning to do that.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

If stu pushes my lynch, would be kinda poetic

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I love the exhanges me/kyan/mal had about auto lynching me lategame

 

[EzekelRAGE]

This is a public service announcement: when Zeke gets to endgame, kill him if he can't prove that he is town. Thanks.

Well, he kinda has a point...

It's not that I suspect Zeke right now. Just that more often than not he is Scum when he makes it to end game.

You still fit the scum Zeke pattern right well I think, you are a bit on the sidelines and not really agitating anyone. You abstaining from the choice on D2 is a good example of this. It's just a feel case though and I know if I am right about it, it'll always be hard to prove no matter what. Luckily there still is some chance that you will get NK'd before endgame, I am hoping for that. If you are scum though, the easier ways of catching you are your vote record and thinking about your eventual claim. I don't think I am getting to endgame so I am putting this out there now.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Soooooooooooooo Im on movie number 3 in the Children of the Corn franchise, with amc plus. Switched from shudder to amc plus cuz it includes shudder as well.

When I knock those out Im watching all the puppet master moves. Fortunately fullmoon pictures has an app linked with prime video, that has all the movies. Gonna use the 7 day trial and knock that out.

 

[TearablePuns]

Soooooooooooooo Im on movie number 3 in the Children of the Corn franchise, with amc plus. Switched from shudder to amc plus cuz it includes shudder as well.

When I knock those out Im watching all the puppet master moves. Fortunately fullmoon pictures has an app linked with prime video, that has all the movies. Gonna use the 7 day trial and knock that out.

You’re doing yourself a great service. Literally

 

[Hawthorn]

This game has really inspired me to watch more horror movies too. Next up for me is The Invitation on netflix.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

You’re doing yourself a great service. Literally

 

[Geno]

@Leo vote maol once Ambulance votes and Zeke can hammer it.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Got my post already ready..............

Vote: Maolfunction
Maybe I'm wrong about geno and maol is scum. Wasted enough time anyway.

 

[Geno]

I think it might be a bad idea for Leo to claim commuter after all.

 

[Leo]

I don't want to vote before claiming, I'm the only one who hasn't already

I'm at work rn so I have that excuse, but when I post again I have to have something. What do you guys think I should claim?

 

[Leo]

Commuter or bullet proof?

If commuter I'll be the crooked man, during night I stay in another dimension inside my lamp.

Of BP ill be the werewolf, as I explained.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

yea commuter and bp is a no go with all the already claimed protective roles.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Although that could throw suspicion onto gorlak's claim more.

 

[Leo]

So what else? Vengeful?

 

[Hawthorn]

IMO keep your own flavor, IT, and claim commuter or 1-shot bulletproof. Don't claim infinite bulletproof.

They'll think someone has to be lying but Zeke is right, it could be Gorlak instead of Leo. I can't think of any other standard mafia roles that haven't already been claimed, except cop, which will not work.

 

[Hawthorn]

IMO vengeful could work, it's impossible to disprove.

 

[Geno]

You can also claim some negative utility like hated townie

 

[Leo]

Okay, I'm gonna go with vengeful then. It's very credible to be in this game, I just have to find the right character for it, it doesn't work for Pennywise at all, it's not seeking revenge on anything.

 

[Leo]

The only vengeful character I can remember now is Carrie, but game runners don't assign roles disregarding gender, do they?

 

[Hawthorn]

Roles can definitely go to anybody of any gender, it's all random

 

[Geno]

Keep in mind it has to be a villain, but yeah it can be any gender.

 

[Geno]

I'd still say it's too many kills though and you'll get lynched at some point.

 

[Leo]

Roles can definitely go to anybody of any gender, it's all random

Really? Well, in that case, I have my claim.

I'm Carrie, and I'm seeking to take revenge on those who humiliated me.

 

[Hawthorn]

The flavor wouldn't have to be about revenge even if that's the standard name for the role, it could be more like, even when you are seemingly defeated your evil lingers on, taking out one additional person. It could work with Pennywise.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Don’t claim yet leo

 

[Hawthorn]

But go with Carrie if you want, most people have claimed, so I think the danger of duplicating flavor is pretty low at this point, come to think of it

 

[EzekelRAGE]

just chill til you get off work. Maybe we will think of something

 

[Leo]

I'd still say it's too many kills though and you'll get lynched at some point.

I don't know other options, you mentioned hated townie but I don't know what that is. I'm looking at the role guide that is here on the forum, I don't know anything that isn't there

A lot of kills might be just what TP was intending with the game flavor, though

 

[Hawthorn]

Maybe modified vengeful so that when you're voted out, you can submit a pm so you kill the person the following night phase, but it would be blocked if they have protection. So the idea could be to make up for all the protective roles.

 

[Geno]

hated townie is a role that needs -1 from majority to be lynched. They can't really test it because it'll get you lynched.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

hmmm, hated townie. I like that.

Would they really try and test it is the real question?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Kinda fits with the carrie theme too.

 

[Geno]

Kinda fits with the carrie theme too.

Yup, I don't think they'd test it especially this late, usually that's something you claim early but Leo is a newbie and can get away with it.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Solved the game.

If you're town, there would have been no reason for people to jump to me on D2. Scum would have stayed on you or Hedin if that was a pure TvT.

How many ppl that jumped is maol scumreading tho? Only haw iirc

 

[EzekelRAGE]

atp jumped and he was neutral

 

[EzekelRAGE]

@Geno ask maol to list who he think is scum that jumped ship from voting you day 2. Maybe provide him with a list?

I think the only scum was Haw. So that means mostly town jumped ship.

 

[Leo]

Alright then, hated townie Carrie it is. I got voted for the prom, but it wasn't the kind of vote I was expecting...

I'm going to claim in the same post I vote.

 

[Hawthorn]

Awesomesauce, go for it Leo

 

[EzekelRAGE]

@Leo i guess you can go with Carrie claim and being hateful.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

O nvm. Idk why I didn’t get alerts for new posts

 

[EzekelRAGE]

@Leo you may have to go ahead and put your vote down and claim b4 ambu does.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Stu just vote for Maol, you can lynch me all you want 2mrw. I promise I will make it easy for you.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Fifth move in the CotC franchise and looks like I ran into Eva Mendes' first role in her career.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

O shit just realize Kill Bill in this too

 

[EzekelRAGE]

@Leo

Well, if you're asking about my power, I can use a double vote. And I already spent this power in the first post I made at the beginning of Day 4.

If you're asking for the flavor that goes with it, I am Carrie White. People voted me Prom Queen, and it's my turn to vote now.

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[EzekelRAGE]

footage of @TearablePuns and spec watching us plan the Carrie claim and waiting for us ot put it in the game thread:

 

[Geno]

Zzz why didn't ambu vote

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Leo may have to claim it as x shot commuter. We just need one mislynch and then lynch me the next day phase.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Commuter claim can make sense for him since he went into hibernation or w/e in the movies when they thought they defeated him as kids.

Leo can just say he was busy or w/e with work to claim. which is true.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

@Geno you may be able to push gorlak to maol depending on how you massage the situation.

 

[Geno]

Nah I think he's done man, at least it's not a vote for me which is good.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

If I get lynched, easy mislynch on gorlak due to this happening outta no where. You guys can say the fight between us two was faked. he did it to distract from lynch maol/geno.
Maybe even bring up this post from kyan:

gorlak and zeke pls stop open scumming it looks bad

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Gor changed his avatar and everything.

Cant wait for the "this frustration must be town" posts.

 

[Geno]

Gor changed his avatar and everything.

Cant wait for the "this frustration must be town" posts.

Lol

 

[Leo]

@Leo



ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

ABORT CARRIE CLAIM

Lol damn. I almost posted it yesterday, that was close.

 

[Leo]

I just woke up, didn't post yesterday cause I was waiting for Ambulance as we agreed.

Commuter does make sense for Pennywise, since he isn't a being of this world, he appears wherever he wants and can't be found unless he wants to. I'm just worried because he IS pure evil, he is literally the manifestation of fear, the other townies so far have been less evil characters or even just antagonists. I think crooked man is pretty safe, he is only in the sequel and isnt a main character, i doubt he is in.

 

[Leo]

Also, pretty sure now TP assigned gender adequate roles, the two women in the game got female roles and all the men got male roles so far.

 

[Geno]

Didn't think it would work honestly, but we got the Stu vote, @EzekelRAGE are you here?

 

[Hawthorn]

Eventful happenings while I was asleep!!

Leo, I think you can still do hated townie if you like that mechanic better. Isn’t Pennywise hated by all those kids/adults? (I haven’t actually read/seen any version of IT).

It is weird that Pancakes and I have the only female characters, but I think it must be a coincidence. Roles are supposed to be assigned at random & TP had no idea who would be in the game when he was making it.

I really hope Gorlak’s not actually upset, he seems like a really good player and I’ve fun playing with him.

Hammer soon? :-D

 

[Geno]

Oh wow he really did get upset, sorry Gorlak.

 

[Geno]

Time for hammer, leo and zeke

 

[Geno]

It was all fun and games until someone actually got pissed, let's end this game fast it's no longer fun.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

im here

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Eventful happenings while I was asleep!!

Leo, I think you can still do hated townie if you like that mechanic better. Isn’t Pennywise hated by all those kids/adults? (I haven’t actually read/seen any version of IT).

It is weird that Pancakes and I have the only female characters, but I think it must be a coincidence. Roles are supposed to be assigned at random & TP had no idea who would be in the game when he was making it.

I really hope Gorlak’s not actually upset, he seems like a really good player and I’ve fun playing with him.

Hammer soon? :-D

Yea it's coincidence on the gender thing. I was the female antagonist in the life is strange mafia game before.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

@Leo put in your vote and claim post
that you will post later when you get time.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I just woke up, didn't post yesterday cause I was waiting for Ambulance as we agreed.

Commuter does make sense for Pennywise, since he isn't a being of this world, he appears wherever he wants and can't be found unless he wants to. I'm just worried because he IS pure evil, he is literally the manifestation of fear, the other townies so far have been less evil characters or even just antagonists. I think crooked man is pretty safe, he is only in the sequel and isnt a main character, i doubt he is in.

Leatherface is evil - maol
Pinhead is evil
My fakeclaim is pure evil.

It seems no one is looking that deep into stuff