Scum Thread The Lair of The Lost

EzekelRAGE

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I'll be gone long before they get to you Zeke
maybe
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Yes I'm aware. But there's a player who I think is scum leading wagons now, there's a bit more pressure on a possible scum mate Geno.
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Leo

Quack Pack King
I didn't think Geno would take the lead in the vote, if both I and Zeke unvote we can save him, but is there a way to do that without turning ourselves?
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Wish I hadn't said you were more suspicious than Hedin, Geno. Now I feel like I can't switch to him. What are you thinking of claiming?
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Leo, IMO switch if and only if you think you can make a good case for why you would switch to one of the other leading candidates, but wait & see what Zeke & Geno think, this is the time of day I'm bad at, I would always want to panic-unvote on my mafia teammates even if it would look suspicious
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
Leo, IMO switch if and only if you think you can make a good case for why you would switch to one of the other leading candidates, but wait & see what Zeke & Geno think, this is the time of day I'm bad at, I would always want to panic-unvote on my mafia teammates even if it would look suspicious

Yeah, as of now I really can't back off. I'm waiting either for Geno's claim to give me something to work with, or something else happens and I take the opportunity.
 

Hawthorn

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Zeke, I wonder if maybe you could switch? Totally up to you. Geno said earlier that he might be busy at the end of the day. Bit worried we can't count on him showing up & coming up with a claim idea.
 

EzekelRAGE

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Zeke, I wonder if maybe you could switch? Totally up to you. Geno said earlier that he might be busy at the end of the day. Bit worried we can't count on him showing up & coming up with a claim idea.
I can’t just outlined in game thread how I don’t like either of the other wagons
 

EzekelRAGE

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To be honest, I'm kind of lost now. I kind of want to see the Hedin flip for the information, but I don't think it would be a Scum flip. The past few hours have made me feel a bit better about Geno, but Mao still doesn't feel like he has Towns best interest in mind.
I still believe Zipped has a higher chance of being Scum here. His recent burst of activity was really just throwing names out and then number speculation with very weird numbers and assumptions.


While I don't think he has higher chances, that recruitable drop was very suspicious. He was a recruitable scum member in a past game and got recruited by citing the obvious flavour, but no one from town caught onto it (Berserk - if I remember correctly Griffith, d'uh)
Yes!!! The dirt I slung on zipped worked
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Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
We just have to hope Geno's around, then, or that the town talks themselves out of killing him. Very tense!
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
It would help if Geno voted Hedin. That would be considered self defense and not overly suspicious, right?
 

Hawthorn

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Well, I did switch, but I think it's ok in context. Not planning to post again in the thread. I wasn't lying that I am at work!
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
Yeah, seems it won't be necessary. Maol or Hedin will be lunched today, and if we play our cards right we can totally get the other lunched on the next day.
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
Sounds good!

I'm hoping Maol gets lunched, then we strong kill Golark tonight and Hedin will have a very bad look next day.
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
Could it be suspicious that the only people not voting for Maol or Hedin are Zeke and I?
 

EzekelRAGE

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@Leo may be safe for you to unvote and get on a wagon if you want to i guess.

otoh and you can just say you werent around for day end maybe
 

EzekelRAGE

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@Leo what was your read of hedin?

because if you never scumread hedin and dont what to vote your scumread in maol. that could be an issue for u
 

EzekelRAGE

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Fuck it, put my money where my mouth is:

IT IS TIME TO KEEP YOUR APPOINTMENT WITH THE WICKER MAN: Zipped

Didn't want to use this one yet, wanted some more information first. We'll see if I get a second chance.
So assuming hed read his pm right, w/e this pr is, if he gets it right he gets another shot.
 
Looks like Pooki will be replaced, which kinda throws the tracker claim out the window because I'll get counter claimed
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
Lol what just happened???

This is great, even better than expected. Hedin died and took another town with him, and now Maol and Golark look scum af.
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
@Leo what was your read of hedin?

because if you never scumread hedin and dont what to vote your scumread in maol. that could be an issue for u

I've never read Hedin any way, and I've read Maol as scum, but I said in the end he was sounding sincere and I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Now if Maol gets lunched, I'm still good.

It would be weird to just disappear from the thread when I had been very active in the last hours and everyone was counting what I would decide the vote.
 
Let me do some math, 4 dead with tonight's kill. 13 town 4 scum, possibly 1 neutral.
mislynch D3, kill N3, 11/4
mislynch D4, kill N4, 9/4
mislynch D5, kill N5, 7/4
mislynch D6, kill N6, 5/4
mislynch D7 and we win. We got a long way to go basically, hopefully a 3rd party helps out but I don't see it happening. If we force town to look into Mao, Kyan and Gorlak and maybe get all 3 we can guide the town sheep to victory.
 

Hawthorn

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It does look like a long way to go when you put it like that, but I think we can get there!

With the way the day ended, I think we should stay away from Gorlak and Maol in order to let suspicion of them take over the discussion tomorrow. Ideally keep Kyan alive too, since he was in Gorlak's circle.

Maybe Ambulance for the kill? Too obvious? & he probably doesn't have any more powers. Can't think who else though.
 

Hawthorn

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I'd be ok with Salva, I feel like he was kind of trying to avoid getting night-killed with his behavior
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
Z-beat is also an option, he seems to have a lot of trust, and I don't think killing him would put any of us in a bad light.
 

Hawthorn

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Salva then? I think it might be worth the strong kill. Then the rest of you can use your actions
 

Hawthorn

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It would be kind of cruel to kill Stu right when he replaced it, but I guess we are the bad guys. I good go for that, prefer Salva though. Not really seeing pancakes, did you see a hint that she has a good role?
 

EzekelRAGE

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It would be kind of cruel to kill Stu right when he replaced it, but I guess we are the bad guys. I good go for that, prefer Salva though. Not really seeing pancakes, did you see a hint that she has a good role?
Just a guess. I remember kyan being on her townread or w/e as to the reason she voted hedin.
 

EzekelRAGE

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So lets decide who to RoleCop

[She/Her] Conditional-Pancakes - UTC-4
[He/Him] AllThingsPurple|ATP - UTC+1
[He/Him] Z-Beat - UTC-8
[He/Him] SalvaPot|Salva - UTC-8
[He/Him] Gorlak - UTC+2
[He/Him] Kyan - UTC-3
[He/Him] Maolfunction - UTC-7
[He/Him] malus - UTC+2
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Sal could be a ploy but not likely, some kind of info role that's vague
Gor some kind of role thief? Knew Malus used a power N1 and can confirm Malus' power
Malus w/e his role is, it's not somehting that confirms him as town since gor still suspects him
Zbeat possible adrenaline junkie could be ploy like sal
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That leaves:
[She/Her] Conditional-Pancakes - UTC-4
[He/Him] AllThingsPurple|ATP - UTC+1
[He/Him] Kyan - UTC-3
[He/Him] Maolfunction - UTC-7
 

EzekelRAGE

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Looks like Pooki will be replaced, which kinda throws the tracker claim out the window because I'll get counter claimed
Not really? Watcher is different from tracker.
say you tracked mao n1 and he went nowhere.

You know this because we blocked him n1 so he couldn’t move. So only thing that can mess it up is if there is a real tracker.
 

EzekelRAGE

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So looks like zip was Sam from trick r treat. Been a while since I saw it but iirc he wasn’t really a villain. More like an observer.

Never saw the wicker man, so can’t really say much about lord summerisle. Reading the wiki he wasn’t an outright villain either.

Z beat should have fun 2mrw with the flavor.
 

EzekelRAGE

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@Geno cop on kyan maybe?

also something you could do is the Maniac Cop claim I posted earlier. Very very risky but could sway someone like z beat due to the flavor. He fits the flipped characters imo.
 

EzekelRAGE

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@Geno cop on kyan maybe?

also something you could do is the Maniac Cop claim I posted earlier. Very very risky but could sway someone like z beat due to the flavor. He fits the flipped characters imo.
Fits them as in could be argued isnt a villain. Think he killed dirty cops who murdered him.
 
Not really? Watcher is different from tracker.
say you tracked mao n1 and he went nowhere.

You know this because we blocked him n1 so he couldn’t move. So only thing that can mess it up is if there is a real tracker.
It's different but very unlikely a town has watcher cop and tracker
 
Ok with Stu buy prefer Salva, would rather leave the newbies as they can be guided I feel like, I don't mind using rolecop on Kyan but would prefer ATP or Pancakes
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I think strong kill Salva, block Stuart, and rolecop Kyan, ATP, or Pancakes. Up to you who you want to do your thing on Zeke, obviously should be someone with very little suspicion so they don't die before you do.
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
Folks, I'm at work today so I won't be able to contribute as much (yesterday I was working from home).

I'm clueless about who we should kill honestly. Nor ATP or Pancakes are ideal for me, because I think both of them are good candidates for being lunched. ATP so far looks like and easy target, and Pancakes hasn't done much and although she has a lot of town trust, when she's forced to actually play the game she might break under pressure.

Roleblocking Stu or Salva sounds good to me. I agree with Geno, rolecoping the newbies might be better as we will have a better chance of guiding them knowing what they are.

Zeke don't worry, I had already said in the thread I thought Golark was working together with Geno to take away the votes for him. I will say I gave Maol the benefit of the doubt cause he was siunding sincere in his deathbed, but now he is obviously suspicious again.
 

Hawthorn

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So maybe the plan should be:
Hawthorn: Strong kill salva
Geno: rolecop pancakes or ATP
Leo: Roleblock Stu
Ezekiel: hunter's mark ?

Then when the day phase start we let the town hopefully kill Maol and throw further suspicion on Gorlak

Sound roughly ok?
 

Hawthorn

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Maybe not? I feel like the strong kill is more likely to be useful early, before people use up their shots, and we got burned last night. But I don't think Salva specifically is particularly likely to have protection. What do the rest of you think?
 

Hawthorn

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I'm going to put in just the regular kill for now, I think that argument makes sense. Can change it if there's disagreement.

kill:SalvaPot
 

Hawthorn

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He did have a lot of people voting for him before the dramatic swing away, wonder if we should wait & have him day killed, but it seems almost like that's what he wants
 

Hawthorn

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Cool beans, I'll prepare my arguments.

Stu, eh? I do think that pookmunki's interactions will clear stu in many people's minds. We don't need to kill him if we can keep roleblocking him. OK by me.
 

EzekelRAGE

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Cool beans, I'll prepare my arguments.

Stu, eh? I do think that pookmunki's interactions will clear stu in many people's minds. We don't need to kill him if we can keep roleblocking him. OK by me.
Stu is more of a, he is a good town player so taking him out isnt bad, type situation. Stu will probably not be up for lynch.
 
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Forgive me for being a terrible game runner, but I made a mistake ya'll. I totally forgot that I had said I was going to refund RBd shots in the design thread last year with the reviewers, so I must abide by that.
If Leo doesn't show up, any one of ya'll can use the command tonight since I screwed up. I'm sorry :( I will get better at this, i promise
 

Hawthorn

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Does that mean that I get my ninja shot back? :-D

Leo is infinite shots right?

Apology accepted on my part, I have no idea how game runners manage to keep up with everything!
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
Roleblock: Stu

Even if I am absent, I'm always aware of the time limits, don't worry guys :)

Excited to see what the hell Salva's power is, that should be fun haha
 
Rolecop: ATP
You can be a 2-shot Hider.
During any night phase, you may target a player by messaging the game runner the command HIDE: target. During that night phase, you will become untargetable. If the player you hide behind is killed, you will die alongside that player. If you ever choose to hide, you will no longer be able to use your possess ability.

OR

You can be a 1-shot Body Thief.
During Night 3 or any night after, you may target a player by messaging the game runner the command POSSESS: target to inherit their flavor, role and alignment. The targeted player will leave the game but will win/lose alongside you as that same character. If the target has an ability with all shots depleted, you will inherit no shots. If they have shots left, you will assume all remaining shots.
 
100% he chose the thief, that's dangerous. Probably shouldn't have blocked Stu since he will just get back the shot, oh well it's fine.
 

Hawthorn

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That's a cool role! Undoubtedly the second option is way more fun. Be funny if he possesses one of us.

We did a lot of actions tonight, I think the Stu block might be worth it
 
Good thing is that if they don't target scum they basically kill a townie for free which is good for us
 

EzekelRAGE

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hmmm, leaving atp alone may not be a bad idea. it's basically a kill for us if he chooses a townie. With the trapper and day vig flips we can cause a mislynch saying that he has to be scum.

@TearablePuns idk if you can answer this. As far as game mechanics a player leaving the game counts just like they died? Majority is lowered etc?
 
If ATP is smart he claims hider because claiming the body thief might fuck over town since they will never see the flip of the player that leaves.
 

Hawthorn

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Honestly I don't really see how ATP's thief ability could be bad for us. If he targets a townie, we have one less town player in the game. If he targets one of us... the same thing happens, because we would have the same number of mafia players but lose "town ATP" as a player. No matter what, if he loses his ability, we're down one town with no reduction in our numbers.
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
Good thing is that if they don't target scum they basically kill a townie for free which is good for us

Yes. Looking at it practically, his role is very beneficial to the mafia team, since it basically will always remove a town player from the game (either himself or some other town). The risk is for individuals, one of us might get removed from the game, but as a team, he should definitely be kept alive.

I have a pretty strong feeling he will use this on me lol
 
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