Scum Thread The Lair of The Lost

Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
@TearablePuns what happens if we kill ATP the same night he targets someone? Does he get killed and the targeted player stays in the game, or does he get killed and the player is still removed?
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I'm having tons of fun, but I would still be cool with it if ATP stole my role tbh. It would be funny to watch, and all for the good of the mafia! I think we should leave him alive. Just hope he didn't choose the hider option.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
although, it seems salva was misinformed about how his power worked? he thought the town would get the info when he died.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I still think it's possible he was in a gossip chat. It wouldn't have to be his power. Or he could have been lying.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I'll be ok, Kyanrute might have something to type up against me, but ultimately the town will want to kill those responsible for what happened yesterday
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
ATP is a neutral. Both powers involve surviving. Flavor wise he is probably The Thing or something like the demon in The Exorcist.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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True but it could be fun attempting to talk my way out of it. Besides I planned on saying I never used it.

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EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Think I’m playing a dangerous game with atp. I probably shouldn’t agitate the person that can possess me.

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Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
What is this about Hannibal Lecter, I don't think I get it? Why do we have to kill him?

EzekelRAGE said:
Think I’m playing a dangerous game with atp. I probably shouldn’t agitate the person that can possess me.

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You're good, if he's gonna posses someone's he has agitation with, that would be me lol
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I that might be right that ATP is neutral. It would be weird if he was town, because he would know he could try to possess someone he suspected & switch his own alignment to being mafia. Has that been heard of, people who can voluntarily switch from town to mafia?

Yeah, I had been hoping that Kyanrute could be a mislynch at some point, but now it will never happen. We have to kill him. Also because he suspects me, death to those who even mildly suspect me!
 
Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
I think the best possible lunch for today is Maol, that still leaves a lot of people in a bad light besides any of us. Golark would probably be next.

Also think ATP is neutral, would make the most sense with his role, and it fits the way he's acting.

I think we should also consider killing Ambulance, it's more likely that people will try to protect Kyanrute than him tonight.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I'd have to use the strong kill if we went for Kyanrute, for sure. I think we can leave Ambulance for later-- he's confirmed, but he's not going after any of us, he doesn't seem to have a lot of influence, and it's unlikely he has another power vs. since the game is role madness it's more likely that a random townie would have a cool power.

Agree with the rest of what you said!
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
I came up with my fakeclaim.

One of the priest from The Exorcist to fight the "possession"
havent thought it thru yet.

May need to go to another movie where the guy is more of a villain.

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Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Also, there is always the concern that town might have that role name... I do think that our own flavor is open to many possible flavor-based explanations for different power sets
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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@Geno
you can use the Father claim possession claim?

Make a show of it and say that you want everyone to claim before you claim. This possibly puts ATP in a bind having to go with a fakeclaim. Especially if their real name can be argued goes with a possession type character.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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What priest or entity to use to battle the possession is up in the air.

You are Ash from Evil dead???? so that means you’re sided with Town.

You are a 2-shot Hunter(Role Name can be changed?).
You are on the hunt for an evil entity before they can possess someone.
During the nightphase you can enter the command BOOMSTICK: Target. If that person is the entity you vanquish them. If they are not the entity then you missed hte shot.

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Good luck and enjoy the game! :D
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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@Geno
The trick here is that you need others to name claim so we know who to go with for the name of the protagonist.
So to help go that way, say you will name claim after others have claimed. But explain that there is an "evil force/entity" in this game that can possess ppl. Give them that nugget and then have them claim.

Then if it works and everyone claims, then we can go with ash or someone else if needed.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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If you arent usin it I will.

Looks like a fun fakeclaim.

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Geno

Geno

It's a good one, although this falls apart once you consider that if ATP flips they'll realize I'm lying because ATP could've chosen Hider.
 
Geno

Geno

But then I also said my flavor doesn't match my role so I'll get called out 100%, you have to do it Zeke
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Doesn't that roleclaim seem kind of like a neutral? Also if you claim that role I think probably ATP will possess you in self-defense.
 
Geno

Geno

Hawthorn said:
Doesn't that roleclaim seem kind of like a neutral? Also if you claim that role I think probably ATP will possess you in self-defense.
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That's also true. Unless it can be spinned afterwards that scum just had a janitor kill lying around lol.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Hawthorn said:
Doesn't that roleclaim seem kind of like a neutral? Also if you claim that role I think probably ATP will possess you in self-defense.
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If atp is a neutral than chances are unlikely I would be a neutral to.

On atp going for me, Switch me maybe?

although then no strong kill for kyan
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
EzekelRAGE said:
If atp is a neutral than chances are unlikely I would be a neutral to.

On atp going for me, Switch me maybe?

although then no strong kill for kyan
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ATP won't claim, so they won't know much about his role. They might assume it's a neutral, might assume it's mafia. The downside if if they think that the person who claims is a neutral & the person they're going after is town, which is possible, although your fake flavor says they're going after a dark menace etc, everybody has pretty dark flavor.

I really am a bit uneasy about claiming flavor that might be out there. Geno probably needs to claim something today. I support it if we want to go for the hunter-of-ATP role, as it would be fun and shake things up. Don't think Zeke should claim yet-- you don't look in danger of being killed today so far to me.

Could you use my flavor? Mater Suspiriorum? Seems that she does hunt/stalk people. Then I could use your flavor when I need to claim.

If I have to switch whoever claims this role I could probably do it in a way that would be consistent with a later switcher claim. Switch you with Ambulance or Kyan then say I did it to protect them? But IMO we really want to get rid of Kyan ASAP, and I do think we need the strong kill for that.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Hawthorn said:
Or, Geno, you could use Leo's flavor, IT.
Hawthorn said:
ATP won't claim, so they won't know much about his role. They might assume it's a neutral, might assume it's mafia. The downside if if they think that the person who claims is a neutral & the person they're going after is town, which is possible, although your fake flavor says they're going after a dark menace etc, everybody has pretty dark flavor.

I really am a bit uneasy about claiming flavor that might be out there. Geno probably needs to claim something today. I support it if we want to go for the hunter-of-ATP role, as it would be fun and shake things up. Don't think Zeke should claim yet-- you don't look in danger of being killed today so far to me.

Could you use my flavor? Mater Suspiriorum? Seems that she does hunt/stalk people. Then I could use your flavor when I need to claim.

If I have to switch whoever claims this role I could probably do it in a way that would be consistent with a later switcher claim. Switch you with Ambulance or Kyan then say I did it to protect them? But IMO we really want to get rid of Kyan ASAP, and I do think we need the strong kill for that.
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Oh I’m not claiming today
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Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Geno, what flavor would you use for that? Are you up for the idea of using one of our flavors? My character seems like she might be kind of nun-themed?
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Geno said:
I must use something that has nothing to do with it because I foolishly said so d1
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I mean........technically you said it doesnt make sense to you.
Maybe if it was some old/obscure horror film the research you did just wasnt good enough.

OR

You could just claim role cop freddy krueger and say it doesnt make sense to you since freddy was never a cop.

*i assume it has to do with the character taking on roles in their dreams.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
EzekelRAGE said:
I mean........technically you said it doesnt make sense to you.
Maybe if it was some old/obscure horror film the research you did just wasnt good enough.

OR

You could just claim role cop freddy krueger and say it doesnt make sense to you since freddy was never a cop.

*i assume it has to do with the character taking on roles in their dreams.
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Agreed. I think you should use Krueger or use one of our flavor. You could definitely spin any as seemingly having nothing to do with your role. It's better than the risk of going for something you think is obscure only to find out that TP put it in the game.

Otherwise I like the claim idea.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
For example, based on the tv tropes page, my flavor could totally work as vaguely religion-themed/in a stalking role, but at first seem to you like "what? What does a ballet-themed movie have to do with hunting down a dark presence?"

Or if you did IT-- "what? My power is not children/clown themed?" but then later you think that ok, it's about slowly following people for years, so that fits with you hunting someone down throughout the game.

Don't know much about Krueger b/c I'm horror movie illiterate, but that would ideally be the best, just in case they have a role cop also.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
You could also claim that you tried one of your attempts last night, since we blocked Stu we know probably there's not a strong tracker role
 
Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
Folks, I'm trying to make sense of this roleclaim talk but I don't seem to, I think I'll ask my mentor about it, and I might have to see it in action, so I'm afraid I can't help with that.

I'm doing my best in the thread to plant seeds and look natural.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Leo said:
Folks, I'm trying to make sense of this roleclaim talk but I don't seem to, I think I'll ask my mentor about it, and I might have to see it in action, so I'm afraid I can't help with that.

I'm doing my best in the thread to plant seeds and look natural.
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You are doing fine. Roleclaim just means claiming your role/pr.

Like you are IT and a roleblocker.

Now if you were town, there is no problem with that claim.

But since you are mafia the roleblocker part of your claim could be a problem, since roleblockers are usually mafia aligned for us in this community. The It claim should be ok though.
 
Geno

Geno

Rolecop is a dangerous game, usually a scum role, would they believe me alongside a cop and a watcher?
 
Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
Hmmm so as I understand, Geno is thinking about claiming to be a role that works as a counter to ATP's power, right? It could work.

I'm just not sure if Geno has any way out today, doesn't seem likely.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Geno said:
Rolecop is a dangerous game, usually a scum role, would they believe me alongside a cop and a watcher?
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Yea, zbeat also mentioned scum having a role cop too. SP's role doesnt matter because we dont know the criteria for him to get the info. Watcher....idk.

You could go with the maniac cop claim. Fits nicely flavor wise, only problem is your post about flavor, which you could say you did on purpose. Or just lied about.
Just to remind you. Maniac Cop is the person, your role would be Alignment Cop

There would also be the issue of SP for that one as well I guess.
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

*truffleshuffle*
Leo said:
Hmmm so as I understand, Geno is thinking about claiming to be a role that works as a counter to ATP's power, right? It could work.

I'm just not sure if Geno has any way out today, doesn't seem likely.
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If the claim is good i think Geno can survive today.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I could see rolecop working as a claim, because the idea could be that it was designed to have a synergy with Salva's role, which isn't really a cop role either.

Don't do maniac cop though. Do flavor we know is safe!!
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Who would you say that you investigated? I don't think we want to expose ATP. Stu, fine.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Actually Zeke is right that it should be alignment cop. You could claim to have a shot left and then green check IDK, maybe Stu? I don't think we would get him voted out that easily. Or that you were blocked night 1 trying to clear kyanrute XD
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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We know that Pinhead is a safe Fakeclaim. Now what TP most likely means is Pinhead from Hellraiser series

BUT lucky for you................The Puppet Master is one of my favorite Horror Movie franchise.

And guess what they have? A character named PINHEAD (wiki for him).

Pinhead is one of the puppets built by Andre Toulon during the second World War in Berlin. Before he became a puppet, Pinhead was a man named Herman Strauss. Strauss was a truck driver who secretly brought food to the Jewish ghettos; as a result, he was executed in the gas chambers by the Nazis for treason. Pinhead along with Blade are the only characters to appear in all the Puppet Master movies to date
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As a puppet he was just super strong. But before he was turned into a puppet he was a truck driver delievering food. And that is the part we will use.

You are Pinhead, the commuter
Commuter ability can be shots or even/odd night
Each odd/even night you get in your truck to deliver food.

The thing to sell here is the fact that for you it didnt add up because the Pinhead you looked up in the hellraiser series doesnt have anything to do with driving trucks or delivering food. Which is why you made the post saying flavor doesnt make sense. How the power is used is up to you.

Hopefully Z beat has seen Puppet Master and says he is from that series.

Geno said:
You imply that they have to make sense, I researched mine a bit since I know next to nothing about horror films and it doesn't make sense in lore context at all.
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Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Pinhead thing could work. Sounds like he is a good guy though? Heroic guy executed by Nazis?
 
Geno

Geno

List:
1. Heal
2. Kill
3. Track
4. Watch
5. Flavor Cop
6. Role Cop
7. Self Commute
8. Hide
9. Roleblock
10. Delay their ability 1 night
11. Give a BP vest
12. Give a Gun
13. Give candy

What I've come up with
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
TBH I like the "mistook which pinhead" idea better, but it's your claim, I support you if you want to go for the list of 20 bizarre things, I think it'd be fun to see the reactions
 
Geno

Geno

N1 I chose a player and it tracked I'll say and N2 I chose a player and I got a rolecop on them, ATP so they can waste a lynch on them, isn't it just evil?
 
Leo

Leo

Quack Pack King
I think Pinhead the puppet is a bit too secondary to be in the game, so far all the roles have been a main character. The Puppet Master would be fine, why not that? I don't think it's in the game.

Pinhead from hellraiser too, obviously.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
No, don't expose ATP!! We need to keep him alive. If he possesses a townie & then we kill him later that's a double kill; if he possesses one of us that mixes up everybody's alignment
 
EzekelRAGE

EzekelRAGE

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Geno said:
N1 I chose a player and it tracked I'll say and N2 I chose a player and I got a rolecop on them, ATP so they can waste a lynch on them, isn't it just evil?
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Good plan on ATP.

N1 you just say you tracked whoever we blocked.
 
Geno

Geno

I'm thinking of adding a ? at the end and just say that's how the role was and Tearable didn't tell me what it was.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
If you do the 20 random things idea I think it's ok if some are dupes of other roles. There's no way you can think of 20 things that arent' otherwise out there
 
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