Scum Thread Preparations for a Dark Ritual

[FateShirou]

TWE or HP
should be our target

 

[EzekelRAGE]

TWE or HP
should be our target

any reason why?

 

[FateShirou]

any reason why?

I feel like those two are the "scummiest" town right now
and if we push, we can get them lunched

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I feel like those two are the "scummiest" town right now
and if we push, we can get them lunched

oh, you mean targeted for misvote, not for the night kill. Ok yea I got you.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[FateShirou]

The gameplan for today is

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Doing this just so I know what happens with a roleblock and shot in case I decide to go with my claim of tracker.
Stalk Fan: Maolfunction

 

[EzekelRAGE]

owe and we still dont have to kill fran n4. I have a RB shot left I think.

 

[Verelios]

Doing this just so I know what happens with a roleblock and shot in case I decide to go with my claim of tracker.
Stalk Fan: Maolfunction

Command Received

 

[Verelios]

Doing this just so I know what happens with a roleblock and shot in case I decide to go with my claim of tracker.
Stalk Fan: Maolfunction

Command Received

Your shot was refunded

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[FateShirou]

 

[FateShirou]

 

[FateShirou]

ugh i was hoping haw haw was going to be a master
killing cu just feels so bad

 

[EzekelRAGE]

ugh i was hoping haw haw was going to be a master
killing cu just feels so bad

haw kill is good cause it throws shade on launch and his doublevote as well.

 

[FateShirou]

we will see how it goes
48 hours is a long time

 

[FateShirou]

im p sure zipped's partner is ephidel

 

[Natiko]

im p sure zipped's partner is ephidel

I think you might be right. Could be a good group to aim at for the next kill.

 

[FateShirou]

I dont think we should turbo maol
think its wise to claim anything now?

 

[FateShirou]

omg
i feel so bad for hp sauce haha

 

[FateShirou]

yall think we being too mean to darkside?

 

[FateShirou]

actually nvm,
anyways whats the read on this?
seems pretty chaotic right now

 

[FateShirou]

so hp sauce is a master? i would guess their servant has passed for them to make this claim
can we ask if they talked to their servant? or is that too much ?

 

[lokiduck]

yall think we being too mean to darkside?

Who is this darkside you speak of?

 

[FateShirou]

Who is this darkside you speak of?

i mean hpsauce lol

 

[EzekelRAGE]

hp sauce

so hp sauce is a master? i would guess their servant has passed for them to make this claim
can we ask if they talked to their servant? or is that too much ?

na, dont ask that. Feels like you fishing to see if they are still alive.

 

[FateShirou]

role claiming
crap what should i claim? checker? :death

 

[EzekelRAGE]

uhm idk

has anyone other than launch claimed?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[Natiko]

Fate, one of us at least needs to claim a normal Magus, doesn't matter which. The other part of the claim is harder.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Fate, one of us at least needs to claim a normal Magus, doesn't matter which. The other part of the claim is harder.

I dont like where this is leading tbh

 

[Natiko]

I dont like where this is leading tbh

It's going to put a bullseye on the back of the claimed Magus's because presumably they should be the ones to die and Launch definitely thinks there's a scum Magus so he's probably going to use the list of claimed Magus to narrow down who to vote for.

 

[Natiko]

@EzekelRAGE What are you claiming again if forced? Are you revealing the concert was you?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

It's going to put a bullseye on the back of the claimed Magus's because presumably they should be the ones to die and Launch definitely thinks there's a scum Magus so he's probably going to use the list of claimed Magus to narrow down who to vote for.

Yep, I figured that's where it's leading too, given how things are turning out. You/fate should get flipped before me. My issue is the way the questioning is goin around what's been said in chat, it's very cheap.

Once I go im a regular magus. and Maol goes he is a servant.

Next question is Zeke/master have you used your command seal yet or something about command seals

Maol/servant has your master used command seal.

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Just questions to help narrow down the pairs.

Idk maybe im overthinking it

@EzekelRAGE What are you claiming again if forced? Are you revealing the concert was you?

hmmm, probably go with Hakuno Kishinami as a regular Magus, who hasnt used his seal because idk about my servant. Or I could say that I have redirect and ahvent used it.

Was gonna claim blackmon and claim tracker. But too risky especially since only magus with extra power that flipped was scum.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

and no, not claimin the concert

 

[Natiko]

Maybe we can come up with something for the concert for Fate and I. I feel like I have to claim Servant because the logical conclusion is Salva saw I had a PR and assumed I moved and used that to frame me/out my role. If I say I'm a regular Magus then I'm less certain how to spin Salva's play (other than just saying he wanted to get a master out, but he would've known I would refute his claim if so).

 

[FateShirou]

I think that would be the best, natiko you claim magus and i swap to being a servant

 

[FateShirou]

sorry im in a zoom call rn

 

[FateShirou]

nadiko, if you feel like claiming servant then go ahead, and i would claim master, i can handle myself vs launch

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Maybe we can come up with something for the concert for Fate and I. I feel like I have to claim Servant because the logical conclusion is Salva saw I had a PR and assumed I moved and used that to frame me/out my role. If I say I'm a regular Magus then I'm less certain how to spin Salva's play (other than just saying he wanted to get a master out, but he would've known I would refute his claim if so).

Concert - May want to be careful with that. I think it may be like tied to the character. My flavor says I want to be a Japanese Idol. So you may want to make sure your fakeclaim can do something like that with a concert.

 

[Natiko]

Geronimo
You care not for the suffering of oppressors and those heroes whose legends are built upon mountains of untold corpses, however your proud soul cannot stand wicked hands reaching toward the innocent. You are the Apache warrior, the red warrior to your enemies, and a Great shaman after death.

I could do the above and claim some sort of role that only activates upon death (can continue to post after death but not vote, or can continue to talk to my master post-death at night?)

Tamamo-no-mae
When not chatting online with your online servant friends Kiyohime and Osakabehime, you are working to become the perfect fox wife. You are the perfect woman as far as you are concerned and being a fox you will do whatever it takes to get your man. Mikon! ;)

Can do this and claim the chat is always open. If we do this then the PR could apply to both so either could be the master.

Neither of these follow the whole redirect, motivate thing though.. which might be bad.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

yea the no command thing looks bad.

 

[FateShirou]

I will claim
Sieg
A homunculus given a new lease on life when given the heart of the great hero Siegfriend, you have really come into your own as a master and have learned to live like a normal human. However, you wield the power of the dragon Fafnir as well as Siegfried and it is slowly taking that life away from you. Maybe the holy grail can free you from this curse and allow you to find further happiness.

I have nothing remarkable about me
I am just a blank slate, hoping to become something at the end of this war

 

[FateShirou]

OMG going through these ISOs are taking so much time

 

[Natiko]

Just don't claim all the flavor with it, that would technically break the "don't quote your role PM" rule. I got nothing on a x-shot command I can have that doesn't seem overkill with what has flipped.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[FateShirou]

Just don't claim all the flavor with it,

darn, i thought my knowledge about fate/apo would made my case stronger

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Hold on, how is at all a question to any if you if Salva planned that gambit with the rest of the scum team?
He didnt, theres no universe were anyone else signed off on it, like im will to put money on the belief that was pure Salva.

 

[Natiko]

darn, i thought my knowledge about fate/apo would made my case stronger

You can talk about flavor but don’t literally verbatim quote the fake claim’s flavor

 

[FateShirou]

You can talk about flavor but don’t literally verbatim quote the fake claim’s flavor

i may be stupid but im not that stupid

 

[FateShirou]

WTF did i wake up to

 

[FateShirou]

Unknown
She/Her] Ephidel|Ephi - UTC-0 NEW
[He/Him] Zippedpinhead|Zipped - UTC-6
[He/Him] Stantastic|Stan - UTC+12
[He/Him] HPSauce|HP - UTC-0 NEW

Servants
He/Him] LaunchpadMcQ|Launchpad - UTC-7 Servant
[He/Him] Maolfunction|Maol - UTC-8 Servant
[He/Him] Fran - UTC-3 Servant

Mass-claim could occur tomorrow
What should our target be for tonight?
I feel like we should aim for zipped or ephidel, but we can also get a lynch going on one of hp or ephidel easily. What do you guys think?

we also should get our stories straight

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[FateShirou]

Hopefully we can get TWE out the door tomorrow.

so this happened lol
are you a prophet

 

[EzekelRAGE]

With SP's role being a vanilla cop and having no result

and now TWE's role that searches for a Master having no result.

I think it's safe to say there is a neutral and it's Launchy.

IF there is a neutral. We hit the pair tonight, we go into day 5 with 8 players and 4 non town. We could possibly win. This play would be too risky though. It's just that maybe I'm thinking too hard about Launch. But the "trush your former scummate" line, feels like a subtle message.

Then with the push to claim about masters/servants, that's scummy af for a town player, but a good play for a neutral looking to win with mafia.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Kill Fran or aim for master?

Aim for master.
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She/Her] Ephidel|Ephi - UTC-0 NEW
[He/Him] Zippedpinhead|Zipped - UTC-6
[He/Him] Stantastic|Stan - UTC+12
[He/Him] HPSauce|HP - UTC-0 NEW

Stan had a killing role, I think he isnt a master
Obvious HP's servant is dead.

Leaves Ephi/Zipped. Especially with the comment Zipped made about his partner posting gifs etc. One thing to be cautious about here is we thought Zipped's servant was Sky. Because he said he would flip his vote to save sky. I can see a master w/o a servant tanking a kill to save a potential pair. Especially if Zipped is just a magus.

Which leaves me to Ephi, could she be stan's master?

idk.

maybe im overthinkin.

 

[FateShirou]

I think we can either take a gamble with a master or just take out the biggest threat to us

 

[Natiko]

I definitely think we roll the dice and go for a master again. I can strong kill to avoid any Fran protection shots left. I got so drunk last night, woke up to try and work, was still drunk and had to go back to sleep. Felt really bad thinking I had bailed on you all and was going to catch shit in the game...turns out the day had ended long before lol

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Strong kill ephi?

 

[FateShirou]

is eph worth the strong kill if we can push for a lynch?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

is eph worth the strong kill if we can push for a lynch?

Ephi kill would be us searching for the master with a servant in this pool:
She/Her] Ephidel|Ephi - UTC-0 NEW
[He/Him] Zippedpinhead|Zipped - UTC-6
[He/Him] Stantastic|Stan - UTC+12

 

[FateShirou]

Ephi kill would be us searching for the master with a servant in this pool:
She/Her] Ephidel|Ephi - UTC-0 NEW
[He/Him] Zippedpinhead|Zipped - UTC-6
[He/Him] Stantastic|Stan - UTC+12

so shot at the dark with those three?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

so shot at the dark with those three?

coin flip between ephi and zipped. Since stan used the decapitate thing, he probably isnt a servant.

 

[FateShirou]

coin flip between ephi and zipped. Since stan used the decapitate thing, he probably isnt a servant.

I;m fine with either of them tbh

nadiko i think we should use my ability tonight, and give u another shot tomorrow

 

[Natiko]

Think Ephi or Zipped said anything that might've tipped off one of them being a master?

 

[FateShirou]

Think Ephi or Zipped said anything that might've tipped off one of them being a master?

not sure if ephi hinted at anything like that
their partner seemed to read haw as town

 

[FateShirou]

i say we just kill zipped and let confused town, lynch hp or launch

 

[FateShirou]

btw guys i got work trmw from 9-5, i will check in to this thread around 12, but let me know if yall need night action

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Coin flip on Ephi/Zipped

I'd go with Ephi



Nat should probably use strong kill unless I block fran?

 

[Natiko]

Pierce Spell: Ephidel

 

[lokiduck]

Pierce Spell: Ephidel

Command Received

 

[FateShirou]

want to use the pierce shot again trmw natiko?

 

[Natiko]

Go for it

 

[Verelios]

want to use the pierce shot again trmw natiko?

Nat can't use the pierce shot two nights in a row.

 

[Natiko]

Ah, didn't realize it didn't override that limitation. Hold it for the next night Fate.

 

[FateShirou]

every time i understand what my power does
verelios comes in and lays it down on me

 

[Natiko]

@EzekelRAGE Anything of note in your chat with maol?

 

[Natiko]

Only x-shot roles I can think to claim would be cop (which I don't think we seeded well enough to do), commuter, or a switcher. Not great.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

@EzekelRAGE Anything of note in your chat with maol?

Neither of us posted anything

Only x-shot roles I can think to claim would be cop (which I don't think we seeded well enough to do), commuter, or a switcher. Not great.

Uhmmm, yea tough spot. Let Fran say who he targeted the night my concert block happened. He thinks something was up with that. If it's you, go with the commuter claim or an Ascetic claim.

 

[Natiko]

Could just say fuck it and claim vanilla lol

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Kill Fran or aim for master?

Aim for master.
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She/Her] Ephidel|Ephi - UTC-0 NEW
[He/Him] Zippedpinhead|Zipped - UTC-6
[He/Him] Stantastic|Stan - UTC+12
[He/Him] HPSauce|HP - UTC-0 NEW

Stan had a killing role, I think he isnt a master
Obvious HP's servant is dead.

Leaves Ephi/Zipped. Especially with the comment Zipped made about his partner posting gifs etc. One thing to be cautious about here is we thought Zipped's servant was Sky. Because he said he would flip his vote to save sky. I can see a master w/o a servant tanking a kill to save a potential pair. Especially if Zipped is just a magus.

Which leaves me to Ephi, could she be stan's master?

idk.

maybe im overthinkin.

 

[Natiko]

What about going for Thomas Edison and claiming lightning rod and that I've just never used it?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

What about going for Thomas Edison and claiming lightning rod and that I've just never used it?

Could work.

I may get pressured about me claiming no command seals. When pushing SP I said it can be assumed all masters have command seal. Lets see if someone pulls that quote.

 

[Natiko]

Or we ALL claim Magus with no command seals and just let town sweat it out lol

 

[Natiko]

Could work.

I may get pressured about me claiming no command seals. When pushing SP I said it can be assumed all masters have command seal. Lets see if someone pulls that quote.

If someone does just say you thought it was unlikely there'd be multiple Magus like that.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I'm Herakles, Servant, and Escape Artist.

Would have liked to have proven that yesterday, but that ship sailed.

Maol's Role could help me alot or doom me depending on how it works.

Or we ALL claim Magus with no command seals and just let town sweat it out lol

That sounds like fun tbh

If someone does just say you thought it was unlikely there'd be multiple Magus like that.

yea, that's the plan.

 

[Natiko]

Final call - servant lightning rod or magus no seals

 

[Natiko]

I'm inclined to say servant LR just because of the "Salva check". If I showed as vanilla they should've tried to shoot me.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Safe call - Servant Lightning Rod

Fun call - Magus. But more risky. Forces Launch/Town to look at the magus' more. But he probably plans on looking at them anyway.

 

[FateShirou]

so everyone, even me
claims magnus with no command?

 

[Natiko]

Fate - you claim Just a Magus with a motivate shot.

 

[FateShirou]

if they ask about motivate, im going to say it allows my servant to use their shot again the next day

 

[Natiko]

night* But yep

 

[Natiko]

Here's the plan - if they turn on me for my role claim I'm going to try and say they should take out my master instead, hoping they'll think I'm bluffing and that I'm actually a master. I obviously will have to be super sketch about it because I can't risk getting modkilled. Hopefully they take the bait and vote me if it comes to that. There are no double kills left on the board. Everyone is a one off except myself and Fate, Zeke and Maol. You HAVE to get one more misvote somewhere in there.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[Natiko]

Tonight if I die you block and kill Fran in my opinion.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Tonight if I die you block and kill Fran in my opinion.

Yea, was gonna kill Fran or Launch.

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Fate. Launch is right about Fate being scum, but wrong in the fact that it has anything to do with Haw.

 

[Natiko]

I hope if it goes this way my 'wink wink I'll survive' thing psychs everyone out into voting me dammit.

 

[FateShirou]

fuck i forgot about my magical shield lol

should i claim that now? or is too late