Pair Thread MGS Mafia |Lovers| Love Blooms

[Natiko]

Welcome to MGS Mafia! All the rules of the main thread still apply here.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Oh boy Besotted Lovers! it’s been a long time.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Ok so what’s the day one plan?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Calling @HPSauce to the thread, @HPSauce to the thread please...

 

[HPSauce]

Hi sorry I didn't realise this thread was open at all times. My bad. It's 2 AM here so I'm not going to be about for a few hours. Just a case of sitting back and watching things develop atm. Kinda open to pushing anybody atm. What do you think?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

It’s ok, no worries. I was just surprised you hadn’t posted yet.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So this day 1 seems really different. Maybe it’s the amount of players.

What time zone are you in again?

 

[HPSauce]

UTC - 0

 

[Zippedpinhead]

This day is just madness, trying to get the last few posts for the minimum and stay out of the way of the big posters

 

[HPSauce]

Yeah I'm the same. Too much going on for me to bother trying to contribute a lot.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I mean the posts doubled each day 700+ posts each 24 hours. How are we supposed to follow that?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Doesnt help that the kiddos are on spring break so it’s one more thing at home

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Just have to make it to them going back to school

 

[HPSauce]

It's crazy. I genuinely have no clue who to vote for

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I’m deliberately not voting today, I can (baby is asleep) but I don’t know enough about either main wagon to actually vote

 

[Zippedpinhead]

It just doesn’t seem right, more like just voting TO vote

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So what do you think, over under on multiple deaths tonight?

I think we have a better than usual chance at having multiple deaths. Purely based onhow many players this game has.

 

[HPSauce]

I've had a bomb put on me.

 

[HPSauce]

 

[HPSauce]

Don't know if that means I'm a dead man walking or what but we'll see I guess

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Actually knowing you have a bomb is interesting.

I say we come clean with the bomb. Maybe even kinda fuck with the bomb placer by saying I got it or something. Or we can claim Something like masons instead.

town knowing a bomb is out there can be important.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Because at least according to my role PM if you die, I die

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Oh you already came clean with the bomb...

 

[HPSauce]

Yeah my bad

 

[Zippedpinhead]

It’s ok, it sounds like Jman is a bomb defuser, so unless he dies you are likely ok

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So why does the whole thread want to kill chuggs?

I mean it sounds like a done deal but I feel like I missed a post somewhere

 

[HPSauce]

Dr Monkey put out a 2 post chain putting forward an argument that Chiggs is scum. It's pretty convincing. Starting at post 1965 I think

 

[HPSauce]

A lot of it is based in 'this is how this person normally plays'. Looks like Chuggs is getting voted out today by all accounts.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Thanks, I found it I think chuggs is getting voted out today as well, just trying to feel out the other wagons as well

 

[HPSauce]

Chuggs admitted to being Scum.

 

[HPSauce]

Jman died for some reason so we're probably done

 

[HPSauce]

Maybe it'll just be me that dies

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Hey we got scum!

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Maybe it'll just be me that dies

My role PM is pretty explicit in that my death results in yours and Vice versa

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Not sure about yours I guess

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I just assumed your meryl pm was effectively the same

 

[HPSauce]

Ah yeah

 

[HPSauce]

That's too bad.

 

[HPSauce]

I suppose it doesn't necessarily mean we die tonight/tomorrow

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Mask off scum is very entertaining as well. Chuggs admission post was interesting as well. What do you make of it?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Do you still have a bomb? Any new updates with you? I got nothing last night

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So who should I vote for. I don’t want to go a third day without voting and any help is appreciated.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I know it feels like I’m playing really passively this game, but it’s been hard to follow the game in the early phase. It’s tightening up though, I’m really interested in hearing your thoughts.

Like do you trust any of the top posters from yesterday? Dr monkey, fateShirou, ATP, and Sparks,

personally I still feel off by fateShirou but I want to know how you feel as well

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Let me know what you think when you wake up. I’m interested in what you think

 

[HPSauce]

Hey sorry missed all this.

 

[HPSauce]

I trust Monkey but she's gonna try to get me voted out which isn't ideal. Shirou seems to be playing similar to how he did in Eastenders so I'm townreading him atm but I always have trouble with him. ATP I townread too. Sparks has been really erratic this day phase. Probably nothing but I could see them drawing votes at the rate they're going.

 

[HPSauce]

Theae are my scum/lean Scum calls atm

Lean Scum
Kopite, LP and Zipped - I'm somewhat confident there's at least one scum within this group of low post players. Question is of course which one. Come on y'all engage more!

Scum
Ynek, Vere and Hawthorn - All seem off to me so far and I'll probably drop my vote on one of them by day end.

I don't have you down as a scum Lean but I figured I better list you because I'd get called out if I didn't.

 

[HPSauce]

Also feeling off about Ephi, she seems different to how she normally plays to me, could be nothing but she feels more guarded/less willing to push people this game compared to Eastenders and Fate

 

[HPSauce]

Not sure where my vote will be yet

 

[Zippedpinhead]

And now Jman is back alive!

 

[Zippedpinhead]

This game is bastard right?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I’ve been on a lot of lovers/masons/love boat 1&3/Mario kart double dash/ fate stay

 

[Zippedpinhead]

 

[HPSauce]

Yeah it's bastard.

 

[HPSauce]

I don't know if you saw my post in the thread but I'm sick with something. I'll stay active in here when I can but I'm gonna be pretty quiet in the thread itself until at least day 4 start.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

It’s ok,

All of the flips and role claims so far are so much more powerful than ours.

I mean besides our chat and voting, my only other ability is that we both get voted out when I get NK/voted out.

 

[HPSauce]

Yeah same for me. I don't know about you but I'm really struggling with this game

 

[HPSauce]

To make any sense of it

 

[Zippedpinhead]

To make any sense of it

It’s why I’m voting Zeke, vanilla in role madness is a bullshit claim.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

More so than the others (which Vere’s is like 80% BS, masons and lovers in the same game? Why unless one of our pairs are scum/town)

 

[HPSauce]

I wanted to get Zeke early on. Might be a good place to move my vote.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Hawthorn I need one more day. Her claim is JUST plausible enough for me. Because she’s really really good

 

[HPSauce]

I mean I know I'm town. I think we're dead either way now that monkey is after me.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Please join me!

 

[HPSauce]

Hawthorn I need one more day. Her claim is JUST plausible enough for me. Because she’s really really good

Yeah I was on Hawthorn but the claim gave me pause

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I mean I know I'm town. I think we're dead either way now that monkey is after me.

Nah, she has bigger fish to fry

 

[HPSauce]

Nah, she has bigger fish to fry

I mean tomorrow. That is assuming I don't blow up

 

[Zippedpinhead]

You won’t blow up. Mechanics speculation aside bombs either go off same day, on a certain day, or when a trigger is pulled.

and no oneis shitposting like they have their finger on a trigger

 

[Zippedpinhead]

And if we blow up, then we both go to the ether or spec chat or wherever the dead are going this game

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Damnit, I just know hawthorn isn’t scum now with her last post

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Epic fail, should have stuck to my guns

 

[HPSauce]

Not good

 

[HPSauce]

Somebody had to make the call though

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Meh, I’ve been in worse. Waffling and then doing it and being wrong is more townie than just doing it.

its bad but not insurmountable

 

[HPSauce]

Yeah it's okay

 

[Natiko]

Johnny had to run to the bathroom.

 

[HPSauce]

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So sorry about that

 

[Zippedpinhead]

My bad

 

[Zippedpinhead]

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So we scum read each other

we had a fight.

anything we can discuss?

also the bathroom @Natiko?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Really the bathroom, did my wife put you up to that as a joke, I know akiba has irritable bowel syndrome but a warning at least?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

How about Leo, you think he is scum?

 

[HPSauce]

Hey sorry, I guess we both just got paranoid

 

[HPSauce]

I could see Leo, he's certainly been exhibiting scummy signs. That being said I thought the same for Zeke and he flipped town.

 

[HPSauce]

I'm looking at ephi, she seems different to normal. Makes me nervous.

 

[HPSauce]

I think it'll probably be Leo or Kalor tomorrow unless town unearths something major.

 

[HPSauce]

Kopite and Neki are too quiet as well. They're getting away with going under the radar.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I agree on Neki and kopite, very under the radar.
I like a Leo vote today.

Kalor just makes me feel like:

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Of course, we could wake up dead but I hope not

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Hey, why did you not mention that Natiko posted in here the bathroom thingy when you came into the main thread? It would have gone a long way to town ness for both of us

 

[HPSauce]

I mentioned there was a flavour message but I should've explained it more thoroughly. Is it some sort of NGS reference?

 

[HPSauce]

MGS

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Yes, in the first MGS, there is a funny bit where one of the soldiers has to poop suddenly allowing solid snake access to a new room. Later Meryl interacts with him as well (I think she takes his clothes to disguise herself and enter deeper into the base).
Later on the MGS4 it is established that Meryl reached out to him afterwards and they got involved.

At least I think so. It’s Kojima

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Also I don’t think you did, I know I had already laid into you so you didn’t have to but I would have seriously mea Culpa’d if you had

 

[HPSauce]

Oh right. Yeah my bad. I don't know why I wouldn't have brought it up but I was kinda stressed out so I guess I just overlooked it.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Have you thought any about what the makeup of the potentially two scum teams are?

If two teams:
2 left on the patriots -poisoner (foxdie) and bomber. Both have secondary abilities.

Second scum team (I’ll just call them team liquid, but team ocelot works too)
Three or four (it’s a big game).
If we have a tailor it’s here, and Zeke was here (seriously that role was so tiny and didn’t make sense, vanilla but had an ability? I still don’t get it)
redirecter (as opposed to swapper) -rarer role but helps us understand LP and Kalor
Some sort of scum investigative role (scum watcher works, but scum name cop works too) - if it’s scum watcher Kalor is telling the truth about LP (because LP is on the other side) just not kalor’s alignment

If there is a tailor, then Zeke was the utility scum role (maybe goon and tailored to be his “claim” but to what end)

We have already killed one godfather, so I don’t think this team would have one too.
Town has some sort of alignment cop, no clue what info they get but we have one. It is why scum is hitting weird people instead of Monkey (towniest of top town drives conversation) or us (two for one bingo night assuming we are both wrong about our reads on each other)

I’m putting this stuff down here to hear your thoughts without pushing it in front of the whole thread. I feel like we are getting played by someone, and that’s making it harder.

 

[HPSauce]

Zeke's role was bizarre. I want to believe the tailor stuff because his role just makes no sense. We'll see I guess.

 

[HPSauce]

Is it possible at all that Doc Monkey got Chuggs killed for town cred. Probably me just being paranoid but her being the strongest town voice and still being alive just makes me a little nervous.

 

[HPSauce]

Players Remaining: 16 with probably 5 or 6 scum left

Funky Dude Sparks (very erratic, could be nervous town or Scum trying to obsfucate)
nin (same as Sparks)
FateShirou (a lot of posts but not a whole lot of substance, not sure)
Leo (Big doubts, very possibly going today)
Stantastic (same as Sparks and Nin)
Dr. Monkey (probably town)
Verelios (not too sure, would be open to a vote)
Kalor (same as Leo) (either they're scum or LP is)
SkyOdin (not sure)
Kopite (too quiet)
Ephidel (seems off to me, not as engaged as usual) everyone else seems confident though. What do you think?
Zem (corroboration from Ephi and Shirou on the role claim makes me think town)
Faddy (pushing hard on the Zeke tailored thing, could go either way)
Lone_Prodigy (too quiet) (either they're scum or Kalor is)
Neki (too quiet)
Fanto (seems town to me)

I've removed you and me because at least from my perspective I'm trusting you're town.

And Jman because obviously we know he's town.