Spectator Thread MGS Mafia |Spec| Naked Raiden Isn't In This

[HPSauce]

Sorry to Zeke and Vere too. Played crap this game.

 

[Verelios]

My heart sank the moment I saw Monkey fake RC because that's the exact thing I would do in her position, and did similarly my last game. I said, god damn, retribution comes fast.

 

[Verelios]

Wait, did HP and Zipped die from Fanto's bomb? So was Monkey aware I had the insta bomb on me, or did she think I had a reg bomb and didn't say anything because I was a patriot?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Mother flipping breadcrumbs. And I’m so mad and I got played

 

[Maolfunction]

Wait, did HP and Zipped die from Fanto's bomb? So was Monkey aware I had the insta bomb on me, or did she think I had a reg bomb and didn't say anything because I was a patriot?

She probably knew if her team redirected the Patriots to target you instead of who they wanted originally.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Now scum can win easy with a good hit tonight no matter what.

Just played. Hard played.

HP I’m so sorry

 

[Sawneeks]

 

[HPSauce]

Now scum can win easy with a good hit tonight no matter what.

Just played. Hard played.

HP I’m so sorry

We should've gone after her together. Goddammit.

 

[Leo]

Sorry to Zeke and Vere too. Played crap this game.

You did good! You gave very townie vibes the whole time, as hard as monkey tried to shade you haha

 

[Zippedpinhead]

We should've gone after her together. Goddammit.

We should have I never would have considered that fanto had ANOTHER mad bomb or scum had ANOTHER day kill that would kill HP and I and put town in a terrible position, because if I had considered that then we absolutely should have gone after monkey first.

hindsight and perfect vision and all thst

 

[HPSauce]

Monkey is really good. I felt off about her all game. Wanted to call it out so many times but didn't have the bottle. Didn't wanna risk getting Zipped killed with me. She did nothing of note after day 2 but shade people. Lessons learned I suppose.

 

[Maolfunction]

guess there was a good reason Monkey didn't go after the lovers, she got a 3 for 1

she's played exceptionally well this whole game.

 

[HPSauce]

She has indeed.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I even felt it when she claimed yesterday a day after she should have. But the red check on a mason, and it was someone largely town read... She played me.

GG dr monkey.

 

[HPSauce]

So much stuff I look back on and think why on earth did I go along with that. Like the 'why would scum kill Lovers over confirmed town' why did I go along with that... man GG Doc.

 

[HPSauce]

It's over right? Or is there still a chance

 

[HPSauce]

Was just so easy to be sucked in to the promise of an easy scum kill. Gotta be smarter in future.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

It's over right? Or is there still a chance

There has to be a mathematical chance, or the game would be over.

But it’s probably slim

 

[HPSauce]

If Monkey isn't dead within 10 minutes of day start I'm giving up.

 

[Stantastic]

Well that was without a doubt the worst i have ever played at mafia.

Hell i even had a gambit yesterday rolling with the misconception that i couldnt protect myself twice in a row, but after sparks flip figured scum wouldn't feel the need to kill me because really what kind of threat had i turned out to be.

 

[Chuggernaut]

but why would scum monkey do something so risky. clearly a switcher at play here

 

[Maolfunction]

but why would scum monkey do something so risky. clearly a switcher at play here

I'm sorry, you're wrong.

Vere's flip was clearly tailored

 

[Verelios]

She probably knew if her team redirected the Patriots to target you instead of who they wanted originally.

Yeah, but would they have known which kind of bomb it was. Going by Faddy's PR.

 

[Maolfunction]

Yeah, but would they have known which kind of bomb it was. Going by Faddy's PR.

probably just an educated guess considering what bombs typically do

 

[Chuggernaut]

I'm sorry, you're wrong.

Vere's flip was clearly tailored

I personally think it was Vere's PM that was tailored as well as one or both of the lovers and town should spend the next day phase figuring out which one it was

 

[Maolfunction]

I personally think it was Vere's PM that was tailored as well as one or both of the lovers and town should spend the next day phase figuring out which one it was

honestly I think this game is actually over? town should have won because all the scum players are dead with tailored flips???

 

[AllThingsPurple]

I'm gonna be sad if zem is scum.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I want spoilers so bad, I just can’t take it

 

[Verelios]

probably just an educated guess considering what bombs typically do

That could be true, yeah.
From my observation, Monkey is scum and the chain of suspicion afterwards is:
Ephi
Kop
Neki

I do believe there's a good chance she puts one partner in her green check list, just based on Monkey's play.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[Chuggernaut]

Spoiler

Spoiler

As long as scum don't miss a kill, town going after Ephi loses them the game if liquid scum has 3 members left.

 

[Hedin]

My heart sank the moment I saw Monkey fake RC because that's the exact thing I would do in her position, and did similarly my last game. I said, god damn, retribution comes fast.

I was surprised you didn't go out in a blaze of Blarglike condemnation.

 

[Stantastic]

What was I supposed to clarify?

I WAS TRACKER

I FUCKED UP MY SHOTS

WUT

Also Monkey is lady sorian iswtg I had no idea she was scum

Sparks, please, next time and every other time after, when you try to claim go read your role PM again, multiple times.

aha, I knew town leader Stan wasn't an act.

How on earth did i appear town leader?

Really thought Stan was scum there

Se now that how i thought id be looking

Good job, Stan!

I really liked your game. I was rooting for you to be town haha

Was it you who saved someone on N2?

I doubt it, N2 i self protected.

 

[Faddy]

Yo the Verelios bomb didn't kill my guys!

i was going to catch up but then I saw all the dead people. LOL

 

[Leo]

Spoiler

Spoiler

As long as scum don't miss a kill, town going after Ephi loses them the game if liquid scum has 3 members left.

Spoiler

I knew she was scum! But she's the wrong scum lol

Town might go after her because she hammered Vere, i want to see how/if Monkey's gonna push that.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

That is terrible luck for town that the bomb hit the lovers.

However, Fanto's PM does not say the vote bomb chooses from people on the vote. Everyone posted but not everyone voted.

Verelios (6 votes)
FateShirou - #7,344
Kalor - #7,357
Verelios - #7,359
HPsauce - #7,367 #7,373
Zippedpinhead - #7,381
Zem - #7,403
Ephidel - #7,405

Neki, Reki, Monkey, Kopite, HP. Can obviously exclude HP. If Foxhound avoids the vote to dodge the bomb, that's your scum team right there.

 

[Verelios]

I was surprised you didn't go out in a blaze of Blarglike condemnation.

I was going to, but then realized that would just be justification for Monkey tomorrow that she could spin. Monkey is very good at spin, and I realized we would lose the game if I gave her any room to manuever.

 

[HPSauce]

I dropped my vote to avoid a turbo...

 

[HPSauce]

It didn't work though.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Monkey did this because she thought they were going to just straight win,

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Spoiler

Next day is 3-3-1 yeah? If they get Monkey that's 3-2-1 and 2-2-1 next day.

I doubt Ephi gets shot at night but she extends the game another day.

And then there's also the person who shot Faddy. If that's a neutral the ending is going to be wild.

 

[HPSauce]

Probably yeah. Town has a slim chance. I'm hoping Shirou can pull them together after this. If he survives.

 

[HPSauce]

If they don't get monkey we might as well all quit

 

[Faddy]

Also

 

[HPSauce]

 

[HPSauce]

If Ephi is scum that makes me the only remaining pure townie of the 3 of us that Loki recruited from the FGO Discord

 

[Verelios]

Also

 

[HPSauce]

Wait. Are we thinking Ephi, Neki and Kopite could all be scum?

I moaned about all 3 of those being off. DANG IT.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Are we sure there is one neutral left or just worst casing it?

 

[Stantastic]

Reading through this thread, really why did any of you expect me to become town leader?
its literally never happened, no one actually listens to me lol

 

[Chuggernaut]

I listen to you

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Spoiler

Ephi should consider open wolfing at some point. She needs town to see that there are still 3 Foxhound left and that scum can almost outnumber town. Her being elim-proof means town can't waste a day testing her claim.

I think her only path to a Patriot victory is her, Reki, and anyone else in final 3. If she can convince Reki to vote out the other person, then Patriots and town win.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Spoiler

Ephi should consider open wolfing at some point. She needs town to see that there are still 3 Foxhound left and that scum can almost outnumber town. Her being elim-proof means town can't waste a day testing her claim.

I think her only path to a Patriot victory is her, Reki, and anyone else in final 3. If she can convince Reki to vote out the other person, then Patriots and town win.

Spoiler

I didnt think you guys could win with town

 

[Natiko]

It's over right? Or is there still a chance

There are still three possible outcomes on the table I’m pretty sure.

Also

If the eyes mean what I think, don’t say lol

 

[malus]

What was that day phase?! I'm absolutely livid they just believed that fake claim after Sparks flipped! Not even Vere, who knew he was Town pushed against it! What?!!!

 

[Stantastic]

Nah, that's just usual Zipped. Stan just makes sense to me as scum. Him tunneling someone like Sparks is a pretty easy mode. Yesterday was his chance to step up, and he went with "What if there's not two scum teams actually and we don't look there at all" and that's just...real scummy

Yknow i feel the need to respond to this considering how much yall harped on and basixally made fun of me for it.

The only information we had on the existance of another scum team was coming from scum.
A scum team is always interested in finding reasons for town to look away from them.

Your actually giving me shit for doubting the word of scum on an issue that entirely benefitted them.

Fuck yall i made plenty of bad calls in this game but that wasnt one if them.

 

[HPSauce]

Easy to criticise from here.

 

[Stantastic]

Man im basically just here in time to witness the end aint i?

 

[HPSauce]

Maybe. Town has to play perfect I think to win.

Occurs to me that if Zipped wasn't locked out of our chat for that last 24 hour period we might've got it together.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Yknow i feel the need to respond to this considering how much yall harped on and basixally made fun of me for it.

The only information we had on the existance of another scum team was coming from scum.
A scum team is always interested in finding reasons for town to look away from them.

Your actually giving me shit for doubting the word of scum on an issue that entirely benefitted them.

Fuck yall i made plenty of bad calls in this game but that wasnt one if them.

To be fair, I thought you were scum there doing it on purpose, but you absolutely had the pieces to put it together there. LP’s action just flat out did not make sense for scum to do the day he died. Heck wasn’t that part of the argument you used to defend him? There’s clearly something else going down there that doesn’t seem super town unless you think LP’s game plan was to get caught on purpose and cost us one of the only reasonable way to achieve our win con for some reason.

 

[malus]

Monkey did this because she thought they were going to just straight win,

I don't think Monkey expected to survive the day and just wanted to get out some WIFOM. She even said so in her pre typed post and didn't even bother to vote her "red check".

Spoiler

Ephi should consider open wolfing at some point. She needs town to see that there are still 3 Foxhound left and that scum can almost outnumber town. Her being elim-proof means town can't waste a day testing her claim.

I think her only path to a Patriot victory is her, Reki, and anyone else in final 3. If she can convince Reki to vote out the other person, then Patriots and town win.

Spoiler

I fear if Ephi open wolves she's going to be a target for the night kill since she essentially reduces the PoE pool for Foxhound.
(Assuming Town realizes they need to find Foxhound every day now.)

 

[Chuggernaut]

But hey, if I was town I’d be out here trying to kill our doctor, so the fuck do I know

 

[AllThingsPurple]

Reading through this thread, really why did any of you expect me to become town leader?
its literally never happened, no one actually listens to me lol

I never expected it

 

[Stantastic]

To be fair, I thought you were scum there doing it on purpose, but you absolutely had the pieces to put it together there. LP’s action just flat out did not make sense for scum to do the day he died. Heck wasn’t that part of the argument you used to defend him? There’s clearly something else going down there that doesn’t seem super town unless you think LP’s game plan was to get caught on purpose and cost us one of the only reasonable way to achieve our win con for some reason.

You say this like i put much stock in role speculation over player sheer player behaviour.

And before anyone mentions sparks ill remind you that i pushed him so hard because he gave apparently fake results and immediately scrambled to fix them only to give even more apparently fake results.

I never expected it

Hey fuk u y not?

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Had to sign up because these last couple of day phases have had me pressed.

Good job, town, you tried. Monkey pulling a fast one. I've really enjoyed following along with this one.

 

[nin1000]

Man it bothers me that I just suicides because i was still in that fever dream. Sucks since I had so much fun!

 

[Blargonaut]

 

[Stantastic]

Blarg i wonder how much your effort in all these jokes and images and gifs stacks up against everyone who was actually in the game lol.

 

[HPSauce]

Only people that really come out of this with any dignity as things stand are Monkey and friends.

 

[HPSauce]

And that includes me

 

[HPSauce]

I guess the early dead townies are okay too

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Spec thread is always going to go "y u no find scum". It's the benefit of hindsight and more info.

It's just unfortunate for this game that the biggest voices against scum Monkey came from the other scum team. Can't really blame town for disregarding it. :P

 

[Stantastic]

I mean monkey did just play damn well,
i dont think i ever town read her but at no point was there anything obvious enough that i felt like i could make a case that i was confident in regarding fully scumreading and also confident it wouldnt just backfire into my own ass looking scum to everyone townreading her.

 

[HPSauce]

Spec thread is always going to go "y u no find scum". It's the benefit of hindsight and more info.

It's just unfortunate for this game that the biggest voices against scum Monkey came from the other scum team. Can't really blame town for disregarding it. :P

Hindsight and all that but I wish I'd been a bit more unreasonable with her Chuggs posts. I felt like it was really getting to her at the time. I only dropped it because I felt bad.

 

[HPSauce]

I think a bunch of people are gonna say they weren't willing to push her because it felt like basically suicide going after the 'top town player'

 

[Stantastic]

I say "did" play well but hey theres still time and unforced errors has been the theme of the game so far,
heres hoping for a solid faceplant right before the finish line.

 

[Stantastic]

I think a bunch of people are gonna say they weren't willing to push her because it felt like basically suicide going after the 'top town player'

Lol at this timing

 

[Stantastic]

Like i said early on folks needed to stop deifying her and then the chuggs push got her a whole fan club.
Im just a nocturnal angry egg stan i cant compete with that.

 

[HPSauce]

I certainly felt like that. Me and Zipped had the same 'we need to push Monkey' conversation like 3 times. I bottled it though I'll hold my hands up. Monkey played/ is playing really well but my 'I don't wanna die' perspective let me down

 

[Natiko]

Don't beat yourselves up too much - the game isn't even done yet! There are still twists to come, and the winner is not nearly as determined as you all think.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

I certainly felt like that. Me and Zipped had the same 'we need to push Monkey' conversation like 3 times. I bottled it though I'll hold my hands up. Monkey played/ is playing really well but my 'I don't wanna die' perspective let me down

Monkey was right about one thing: lovers are left alive until close to the end for a bigger swing of votes in favour of scum.

 

[HPSauce]

And that includes me

Me playing poorly that is

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[Sawneeks]

Don't beat yourselves up too much - the game isn't even done yet! There are still twists to come, and the winner is not nearly as determined as you all think.

I'm so excited

 

[Faddy]

Anyone else looking forward to monkey's pre-typed post.

 

[SkyOdin]

Anyone else looking forward to monkey's pre-typed post.

I kinda hope she just goes open wolf right off the bat. She probably won’t though, since there are non-zero odds she can somehow come up with a convincing excuse.

 

[Sawneeks]

I kinda hope she just goes open wolf right off the bat. She probably won’t though, since there are non-zero odds she can somehow come up with a convincing excuse.

on a scale of 1 - 10 how likely is it they don't vote her out today

 

[Sawneeks]

Had to sign up because these last couple of day phases have had me pressed.

Good job, town, you tried. Monkey pulling a fast one. I've really enjoyed following along with this one.

welcome btw! this game has sure been something.

 

[HPSauce]

'I had a memory lapse and forgot I actually checked Shirou... And he came up RED'

 

[BoJack Horseman]

welcome btw! this game has sure been something.

Thanks, it's sure been a roller-coaster.

Taking bets, will Monkey somehow survive another day?

 

[Sawneeks]

Thanks, it's sure been a roller-coaster.

Taking bets, will Monkey somehow survive another day?

Don't think my heart will be able to take it if she gets away with another day. There's no way they can let her live after that.

 

[Fanto]

Monkey lmaooooo

 

[Sawneeks]

RIP Zem. You played a damn good game. :<

 

[Chuggernaut]

You did good Mr. Swanson

 

[Hawthorn]

I'm loving Dr Monkey's concern over how quickly town rushed to turbo yesterday. Who could have predicted that? When she was urging caution!

They have got to vote her out today. It has to be the day. And that means there's still a chance, because I honestly was kind of expecting the game to end after the night period.

 

[Zem]

Damn I was ready to go in on Monkey today but looks like Fate and Reki have it covered

 

[HPSauce]

Go Shirou!

Reki catching the vote bomb thing is great too. Good on them both.

 

[HPSauce]

And well played Zem! You were pretty much my top town other than Shirou at the end there.

 

[HPSauce]

Monkey pushing on Ephi being weird at EOD yesterday. As expected.

 

[BoJack Horseman]

I guess she has nothing to lose if she doesn't at least try to push the conspiracy.