Spectator Thread MGS Mafia |Spec| Naked Raiden Isn't In This

[HPSauce]

Ah shit they're all taking Monkey's flip at face value.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Okay Kalor isn’t with Kopite. You just don’t bus at this stage when Ephi looks like she’s going Reki and the two of you are scum together

 

[AllThingsPurple]

I thought ephi was playing similarly in this game as she did in Eastenders where I incorrectly read her as scum so I kind of just gave her a pass this game.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Kalor being a neutral tracks though

 

[FateShirou]

I thought ephi was playing similarly in this game as she did in Eastenders where I incorrectly read her as scum so I kind of just gave her a pass this game.

I hope in your eyes i played better this game than in eastenders :)

 

[Leo]

give me the 401 leo
are you foxhound?

Spoiler

I'm an innocent townie. When I referred to Liquid's team as "Foxhound", i was just speculating over the flavor, because that's what his team is called in the game. I dropped it because it didn't stick, but it was easier than typing "liquids team" or "the other scum team" the whole time.

I have no idea why Reki claimed to have targeted Zipped on N3, i think it was just a mistake.

 

[Blargonaut]

This game is too long I've given up on guessing who's what at this point, I just want more blood and suffering

 

[Leo]

I was sus at Ephi, but a struggle with this game is that with 28 players it was hard to push sus people as a priority, because there was always something else more urgent, with all the claims and lists and whatnot. So the result is that we got to endgame with players like Ephi and Kopite who are really hard to read because they haven't been talked about much.

 

[HPSauce]

I thought ephi was playing similarly in this game as she did in Eastenders where I incorrectly read her as scum so I kind of just gave her a pass this game.

She was way quieter/ less proactive than normal from my perspective. Honestly I would've pushed toward her, Neki and Kopite way harder if it weren't for the Zipped situation taking over the game for me

 

[Leo]

At this point it's pretty much a wild guess who is scum between Neki, Kopite and Kalor. I think Kopite is scum, but between Neki and Kalor, i have no idea, I thought they were both town.

 

[HPSauce]

I feel like I've been underestimating Neki all game long. I still don't think he's scum but I don't think he's anywhere near the innocent newbie townie he's made himself out to be.

 

[Leo]

I feel like I've been underestimating Neki all game long. I still don't think he's scum but I don't think he's anywhere near the innocent newbie townie he's made himself out to be.

Yeah, between him and Kalor, I'm leaning he's scum and has played everyone in the game like a fiddle.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Nah, I’m pretty sure Neki is just town. He’s just been doing real good. Think losing Vere and making it so he has to type his thoughts in the actual thread has been doing good for him

 

[Zem]

Neki and Reki - Town
Kalor - Town / Neutral
Kopite - Foxhound
Ephi - Patriots

 

[Blargonaut]

Nat I know you're a real genius auteur so since you must be seeing right now how spec chat has already solved the endgame "who's who", I know you're secretly editing game mechanics/plot as we & the players speak in order to subvert our collective expectations in the end like a truely invested creative visionary would, yes? You don't have to confirm this out loud I know you won't let us down by having this play out as our predictions would like some shitty "artist" with an obsolete sense of "integrity" would allow with their "work", because I know you know modern audiences crave swerves conducive to making that big reaction vid money you know what I'm talking about Nat? Do what you have to do I'm with you

 

[Blargonaut]

Save the game, Nat

 

[heymonkey]

After the game, we need the Natiko cut.

 

[Blargonaut]

praying there's still a Neutral and that this ends in a Neutral Win so all of this continental faction slapping was for nothing

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

I can buy Kalor as a neutral. Him shooting Faddy would be very on brand to give town a fighting chance. Also no one was inclined to save him on D3 which means no teammates.

If he's a survivor then he's in a bind. Normally you'd think he goes with town to remove Foxhound and the NK, but what if there's a Patriot left? Then the game continues and say if it's Ephi and she's actually elimination proof, then town will vote him out next. So side with Foxhound and hope they remove the Patriot?

 

[SkyOdin]

I had a slight hunch that Ephidel was scum when I noticed that she wasn’t posting many gifs or longer posts. I thought thst there was a chance she was memeing in scum chat instead. Then I immediately got distracted by a pile of various bad reads.

I hink the only read this game that I am proud of is that Zeke was town. If he turns out to have a tailored flip after all this, I am throwing in the towel, lol.

 

[FateShirou]

I think ephi's main downfall will be the lack of time they have to play mafia, if reki is able to gain control of the conversation, i think kopite could go under

 

[Chuggernaut]

Ephi doesn’t have a downfall

 

[FateShirou]

Ephi doesn’t have a downfall

go chug a black cherry white claw

 

[Hedin]

go chug a black cherry white claw

gross

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

I thought about a few possible F3 situations and either way it's going to be insane if the alignments are what I think they are.

 

[Stantastic]

How did scum redirect a shot they didn't know she had?

Even crazier given that means they chose to redirect the cop they didnt even know had another shot, rather than the doctor they wanted to kill lol.

 

[Stantastic]

I started scum reading Ephi when she gave that bogus shading of me and never responded to me calling it out but i figured that was just Omgus and didnt trust it lol.

 

[lokiduck]

Hey Shirou you did great! I'm so proud of you x3 Also as a fellow innocent child that was in a bastard game, we can be buds for life. Only we know what it's like for people to doubt us. ;w;

Also I'm gonna ignore Ephi's 'woe is me, I suck at this' talk from now on.

LOL her talk is real. I keep telling her she's doing great and doesn't need to worry but she never seems to believe me. Hopefully when she sees spec chat she'll know she did good.

I think ephi's main downfall will be the lack of time they have to play mafia, if reki is able to gain control of the conversation, i think kopite could go under

Yeahhhh her schedule is...

Ephi doesn’t have a downfall

Yes she's perfect in every way.

---

Also I don't know what you guys are talking about. She is 100% town.

She told me as much.

 

[lokiduck]

@HPSauce

Spoiler

Earlier you said you are the only one out of my recruits that has never been scum. What's hilarious is I also have never been scum (in this community at least). >>;

 

[HPSauce]

@HPSauce

Spoiler

Earlier you said you are the only one out of my recruits that has never been scum. What's hilarious is I also have never been scum (in this community at least). >>;

We're good eggs.

 

[Hawthorn]

i value my mental health over the truth!!!
im sorry i couldnt save you haw haw
i tried my best
also sorry for setting expectations for you too high
next time i play scum, i will make sure to advise my team to murder you first!

I feel like my mental health will take a dive if Monkey is town XD. "What IS reality??" I'll ask myself.

Anyway, I'm sorry I phoned it in a little too much! Pressures of playing with a role/with too much information. Warms my heart to hear you say that you'd murder me :-D

Looks like Reki's not going down without a fight, but I still think Ephi will come out on top in the conflict, since Reki doesn't have a clear alternate target to direct attention at, their play is mostly defense. But I'm not sure Reki getting voted out will ultimately be good for Ephi.

 

[heymonkey]

I feel like my mental health will take a dive if Monkey is town XD. "What IS reality??" I'll ask myself.

I don't love being mafia ever, but maybe I'd like it if I was mafia with you, Haw Haw.

Spoiler

I was town here tho.

 

[Hedin]

I don't love being mafia ever, but maybe I'd like it if I was mafia with you, Haw Haw.

Spoiler

I was town here tho.

That would probably be illegal.

Also still not believing you.

 

[heymonkey]

What I find wild here is that:
a) town believes I am cop
b) town ignores my final path to victory/reads

feelsbadman

 

[Stantastic]

this suspense is killing me, i hope it never ends

 

[HPSauce]

Reki has to go after Kopite I think.

 

[Verelios]

Reki has to go after Kopite I think.

Reki should, but they should also be canvassing Neki and Kalor to vote with them and not discrediting the case against them. People, for whatever reason, don't like seeing defense. It's scummy looking. Endgame is always going to come down less to rationality and more to who can pull in emotion. Debating Ephi won't work because her point isn't made to debate, there are obviously multiple people with their own agendas in play so that's an exercise in futility. If Reki gets at least one of Neki and Kalor on board and the other wavering I guarantee Ephi will change her tune and hop in with them.

 

[HPSauce]

Reki should, but they should also be canvassing Neki and Kalor to vote with them and not discrediting the case against them. People, for whatever reason, don't like seeing defense. It's scummy looking. Endgame is always going to come down less to rationality and more to who can pull in emotion. Debating Ephi won't work because her point isn't made to debate, there are obviously multiple people with their own agendas in play so that's an exercise in futility. If Reki gets at least one of Neki and Kalor on board and the other wavering I guarantee Ephi will change her tune and hop in with them.

Yeah I'd be no good here. I'd go way too defensive.

 

[heymonkey]

That would probably be illegal.

oh and by the way

I'm sorry your lover was always pooping or whatever but stay out of my flirting with Haw Haw!

 

[Verelios]

I just looked at Kop's last post again...

I haven't had a chance to go through everything yet, but we shouldn't vote Leki or me tonight obviously, as there's a much lower chance of scum being there. Kalor is also very very likely town. Which leaves Leki and Ephi as the best votes today. I'll have a closer look at them by EoD, but I'm wondering if based on their claim's Ephi could potentially be a safer vote? As in if elimination proof is a fakeclaim, we'll nail scum whereas if she's town we wouldn't have mislunched and have an extra day to figure things out. Of course if we're already in Lylo that's out the window as we'll still eat a NK.

 

[Verelios]

Yeah I'd be no good here. I'd go way too defensive.

It's a hard balance because you want to refute them but then you also have to be pointing at someone else while doing it, preferably not OMGUS. F5-4-3 are the musical chairs of mafia.

 

[heymonkey]

f3 in mafia is deadass one of the most stressful things I've done and I've had two children and defended two theses.

 

[Hedin]

I was in the F3 three times in my old community, twice as scum and lost and once as town and lost. I hate it.

oh and by the way

I'm sorry your lover was always pooping or whatever but stay out of my flirting with Haw Haw!

I mean you both can be proper lovers, don't need to be scum and ruin the game for the rest of us.

 

[Maolfunction]

winning a game of mafia in f3 is an incredible feeling, but it's been so long since I've actually been left alive that long

 

[Verelios]

Oh Reki baby, no, no, no, no, don't get dragged down into arguing with Ephi.

 

[Natiko]

winning a game of mafia in f3 is an incredible feeling, but it's been so long since I've actually been left alive that long

It feels so miserable while it’s happening though lol

 

[Maolfunction]

It feels so miserable while it’s happening though lol

depends on where you are. as mafia or serial killer it's the culmination of your long term strategies all game long. the times I've won games as those alignments the final phase is when I'm having the most fun doing the most I can to convince one person I'm trustworthy.

as town it can suck lol

 

[heymonkey]

depends on where you are. as mafia or serial killer it's the culmination of your long term strategies all game long. the times I've won games as those alignments the final phase is when I'm having the most fun doing the most I can to convince one person I'm trustworthy.

as town it can suck lol

Yeah, I've only ever been f3 as town so that's probably why I find it so super stressful.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Given the number of people who targeted jman N1, are we sure he's not actually a lightning rod?

 

[Maolfunction]

Yeah, I've only ever been f3 as town so that's probably why I find it so super stressful.

I've come close to rereading entire threads in f3 as town if the game was high stakes lol

definitely something that benefits from experience tho. the first time I was town in a f3 was so stressful. by that point I was paranoid about everything.

 

[SkyOdin]

I only ever made it to the final 3 once, in my second game of Mafia. I immediately threw down a vote, was wrong, and handed scum victory on a silver platter. The game runner declared me honorary scum MVP, which is a shame that still haunts me to this day.

 

[HPSauce]

I've gotta say If I was in there I'd be pointing out my unwillingness to believe that Town monkey would just give up like that. Seems to me she wanted to flip for the confusion it'd cause.

 

[HPSauce]

I refuse to accept any scenario where monkey is town

 

[Natiko]

I've come close to rereading entire threads in f3 as town if the game was high stakes lol

definitely something that benefits from experience tho. the first time I was town in a f3 was so stressful. by that point I was paranoid about everything.

I don’t think I’ve been final 3 as anything but town, but I could be misremembering. Mafia becomes a blur eventually.

 

[Maolfunction]

I don’t think I’ve been final 3 as anything but town, but I could be misremembering. Mafia becomes a blur eventually.

I definitely remember when I've won f3 as anything non town because they were always the result of some elaborate fake claim that actually worked lol

 

[Chuggernaut]

You know, I don’t think I’ve ever made it to the final 3

 

[Sawneeks]

I only ever made it to the final 3 once, in my second game of Mafia. I immediately threw down a vote, was wrong, and handed scum victory on a silver platter. The game runner declared me honorary scum MVP, which is a shame that still haunts me to this day.

Yuuup, did something similar my first game here and handed mafia the win after a very long game. That was not a fun time.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I really dislike the "who are the partners" response to scumreading someone.

 

[Chuggernaut]

I really dislike the "who are the partners" response to scumreading someone.

I don’t really. Sometimes someone appears to be real scummy until you look at them and realize they clearly aren’t on a team. I think in this specific situation, this thinking is going to mess them up though.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I don’t really. Sometimes someone appears to be real scummy until you look at them and realize they clearly aren’t on a team. I think in this specific situation, this thinking is going to mess them up though.

True, but scum don't always play as a team. I tend to ignore the question until I get the flip.

 

[Verelios]

I don’t really. Sometimes someone appears to be real scummy until you look at them and realize they clearly aren’t on a team. I think in this specific situation, this thinking is going to mess them up though.

TMBG might be one of the few games where the winning team was more frustrated because of it.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

I was final 3 in Risk as town. The game ended after I made a meta joke and the neutral voted for the scum.

 

[Hedin]

So who is going to make the first move?

 

[BoJack Horseman]

Oh god, it's getting very squeaky bum time right now...

 

[malus]

The fact Reki hasn't been hammered yet points to there being only one Foxhound left.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Yeah, it has to just be Kopite

 

[HPSauce]

Quick Question. How does town get rid of Ephi? If she can't be voted out?

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

It only works once, most likely. You vote her again the next day.

 

[malus]

So are you telling me, that the main Scum team consists of two people in a 28 player game?

 

[Chuggernaut]

So are you telling me, that the main Scum team consists of two people in a 28 player game?

Monkey is not town no matter what she’s trying to tell you

 

[Hedin]

You're forgetting about Monkey obviously.

 

[Hedin]

The fact Reki hasn't been hammered yet points to there being only one Foxhound left.

It could be Kopite and one other and Kopite just isn't around to coordinate a hammer.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So are you telling me, that the main Scum team consists of two people in a 28 player game?

What if...................there is only 1 scum team and the tailor made up the other scum team. lp/chuggs/fanto are really part of the main one with faddy monkey

 

[Faddy]

So are you telling me, that the main Scum team consists of two people in a 28 player game?

*PTSD flashbacks to House of Horrors mafia by Natiko and Fireblend*

 

[Chuggernaut]

*PTSD flashbacks to House of Horrors mafia by Natiko and Fireblend*

The worst. THE WORST

 

[malus]

It could be Kopite and one other and Kopite just isn't around to coordinate a hammer.

Everybody left in the game has posted since the vote.

 

[Hedin]

Everybody left in the game has posted since the vote.

I missed seeing him before so yeah there is only 1 left.

 

[Faddy]

What if...................there is only 1 scum team and the tailor made up the other scum team. lp/chuggs/fanto are really part of the main one with faddy monkey

The real Tailor was me all along.

 

[HPSauce]

Kopite using the monkey check as a defence

 

[HPSauce]

Neki scared to lose. Doesn't want to be responsible

 

[Zippedpinhead]

None of them do, not with how close this game has come

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Spoiler

I think Kalor believes in 2 Foxhound left, otherwise he wouldn't vote for scum Kopite. I think he needs the NK on Neki to have a chance.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Spoiler

Neki to decide town's fate here.

If Reki dies then Kopite shoots Neki and F3 is neutral/scum/scum I think.

If Kopite dies then no NK and 4 left tomorrow?

 

[HPSauce]

All on Neki

 

[Zem]

Neki said in gossip chat that Kopite was 100% scum the other night

 

[Natiko]

*PTSD flashbacks to House of Horrors mafia by Natiko and Fireblend*

The worst. THE WORST

Hey - you all managed to not flip a single mafia player that's not on me! I designed a whole game around possession and it literally never got to happen!

 

[heymonkey]

Ephi just voting and bouncing should be the worst & biggest tell of all time.

 

[A Wild Shark Appears]

NOOOOOO

 

[HPSauce]

Dang

 

[Chuggernaut]

Scum/scum/town final 3 let’s goooooo

 

[heymonkey]

I'm dying inside.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Juggernaut Ephi let’s goooooo

 

[Zem]

Kopite just coasted through that game looking scummy, getting called scum by almost everyone, with a dodgy fake claim and survives until the end

(watch him be town now)

 

[A Wild Shark Appears]

RIP town

 

[heymonkey]

Kopite just coasted through that game looking scummy, getting called scum by almost everyone, with a dodgy fake claim and survives until the end

(watch him be town now)

obvi, he's greenchecked

 

[Chuggernaut]

View attachment 281
RIP town

they were already dead

 

[malus]

The flip is taking so long, maybe Ephi is a double agent for foxhound and the game is over.

 

[heymonkey]

We all know the real theme wasn't metal gear. It was:

 

[Zippedpinhead]

This game... this game

 

[HPSauce]

obvi, he's greenchecked