Scheming and Plotting

[Verelios]

Welcome to scum thread. Among the varied multiverses, only three reign supreme in their evil. As they came together, the heavens shook and darkness rose.

This is merely a prelude to greatness. Go forth and fulfill your aspirations.

The scum team are: Ephidel, HPSauce and Weemadarthur.

Fake claims:
Bulletproof
Restless Spirit
Vanilla

 

[weemadarthur]

Ephi and HP? Awesome.

i’m a switcher. Every night, no running out of shots i guess.

 

[lokiduck]

Ephi and HP? Awesome.

i’m a switcher. Every night, no running out of shots i guess.

HP and wee reunited \o/

:math: this your way of confirm you got your Role PM?

 

[Ephidel]

Among the varied multiverses, only three reign supreme in their evil. As they came together, the heavens shook and darkness rose.

 

[Ephidel]

Hi Wee and HP! Looking forward to causing murder and chaos with you!

I've got a strong kill, seemingly unlimited. Can't be used the same night as the standard factional kill.
I'm also a godfather.

Just for the record day start will be 3am for me on a standard day so the chances of me being around (and actually capable of thinking) are slim, but if being conscious at that time starts to look necessary later I'll cross that bridge when we come to it

 

[HPSauce]

 

[HPSauce]

I guess I'm not a pure hearted Townie anymore.

Hi Ephi and Wee! Let's do some murder together.

I'm a role thief and I can't be affected by night actions (other than kills)

I'm in the same boat as Ephi in regards to day ends as well.

 

[HPSauce]

Day starts rather ^

 

[Ephidel]

Okay, going to want some elaboration on yours @HPSauce if you're willing or allowed to provide it.

When you steal a role does it override your passive or exist alongside it?

Is the theft temporary or permanent?
By which I mean are you stuck as what you steal forever? Or do you get to steal another role to replace it with later?

When you steal a target's role does it also stop them using the role themselves?

Steal and use same night, or steal one night and use the following night?

... All of this is an elaborate way of me trying to work out if we want you messing with people more actively or keeping that in reserve until we think you can steal something good in case you were curious.

 

[HPSauce]

Okay, going to want some elaboration on yours @HPSauce if you're willing or allowed to provide it.

When you steal a role does it override your passive or exist alongside it?

Is the theft temporary or permanent?
By which I mean are you stuck as what you steal forever? Or do you get to steal another role to replace it with later?

When you steal a target's role does it also stop them using the role themselves?

Steal and use same night, or steal one night and use the following night?

... All of this is an elaborate way of me trying to work out if we want you messing with people more actively or keeping that in reserve until we think you can steal something good in case you were curious.

Sorry, my role allows me to target a player and potentially receive an item which gives a clue what their role is. At a guess I'd assume it'd give clues about power roles. It doesn't overrule my passive. I guess I'm more of a role cop than a role thief. IDK.

 

[Ephidel]

Ah okay, so Thief rather than role thief.
Role cop with added mystery.
Good to know.

 

[HPSauce]

Ah okay, so Thief rather than role thief.
Role cop with added mystery.
Good to know.

Specifically listed as role thief but yeah sounds like role cop.

 

[weemadarthur]

Well looks like ephi is the killer at all times.
So.....who gets the good fake claim and who gets the “but then why are you moving at night” fake claims, lol.

i mean vanilla and bulletproof in a bastard game is some shit. We can come up with better! [i can’t actually come up with better]

 

[weemadarthur]

HP and wee reunited \o/

:math: this your way of confirm you got your Role PM?

No. I have not confirmed receipt of my role.

 

[HPSauce]

Oh I have standard factional kill too. I assumed we all did though?

 

[HPSauce]

I'm happy to claim vanilla and just play the 'I'm dum and don't know' card if I get caught out?

 

[weemadarthur]

Sure, we can all do the factional kill. I just figure there’s a lot of protection if there’s an unlimited strong killer on our team. Probably a doctor and a bulletproof and a commuter. could even be an armorer Instead of bulletproof.

 

[weemadarthur]

For a bastard game we’re not all that bastard of a team tho.

HP how bastard does your role look?

 

[Ephidel]

Oh I have standard factional kill too. I assumed we all did though?

Yeah but mine bypasses doctors and other protections and you two both have useful skills.
It makes more sense for it to be me.

Well looks like ephi is the killer at all times.
So.....who gets the good fake claim and who gets the “but then why are you moving at night” fake claims, lol.

i mean vanilla and bulletproof in a bastard game is some shit. We can come up with better! [i can’t actually come up with better]

I may or may not have been debating hunting for loosely themed gifs I can use devoid of context and pull them up later to say I was breadcrumbing Conspiracy Theorist and I'm searching for Aliens at night.
It's a mystery bastard game. An alien is a possibility. Enough of one that I'm not confident enough to just say there isn't a real one, even

Unfortunately that's a stupid claim and I wouldn't expect anyone to let me off with it, but anything more believable risks being taken and getting caught out that way on top would be embarrassing (unless we just assume at the point I get tracked to a target that dies I'm done for anyway and I'm trying to bait a counterclaim intentionally).

Anyway, hopefully they won't be on my back straight away and I'll have time to try and come up with something better

 

[Ephidel]

For a bastard game we’re not all that bastard of a team tho.

HP how bastard does your role look?

Let's just say I'm interested in what those items he receives are going to end up being.

 

[weemadarthur]

I may or may not have been debating hunting for loosely themed gifs I can use devoid of context and pull them up later to say I was breadcrumbing Conspiracy Theorist and I'm searching for Aliens at night.
It's a mystery bastard game. An alien is a possibility. Enough of one that I'm not confident enough to just say there isn't a real one, even

Do it.
I adore licker roles. And you never have to claim it so it’s just busywork Until then. Plus with this roster you’ll probably be able to reply *in context*.

And there should be one! Maybe there are but they’re not on our team lol.

 

[weemadarthur]

HP and wee reunited \o/

Did....did I mentor HP or something? I know we’ve played a game together at least once but i’m a bit lost on ....the past.

 

[Ephidel]

You were master and servant in Fate Mafia, which was his (well, our) first game.
But you died rather fast

 

[weemadarthur]

N2?
my personal nemesis?

 

[HPSauce]

For a bastard game we’re not all that bastard of a team tho.

HP how bastard does your role look?

I suppose it depends on what I get in terms of items. It could be super weird depending on what they are.

 

[HPSauce]

N2?
my personal nemesis?

Indeed, I actually forgot to use my motivate on you the night you died in that game as well.

 

[HPSauce]

Given that no night actions other than kills affect me do we think I'm unwatchable?

 

[weemadarthur]

Given that no night actions other than kills affect me do we think I'm unwatchable?

Wait, you’re ascetic and you didn’t mention it until now?

maybe you’re allowed to c&p your role because at this point i think you need to, lol.

 

[HPSauce]

Wait, you’re ascetic and you didn’t mention it until now?

maybe you’re allowed to c&p your role because at this point i think you need to, lol.

I did mention it in post 7, guess I didn't explain it well enough. My bad.

 

[HPSauce]

In Night Phase I can check any player for an item and MAY receive an item that points to their role. This player will be role blocked for the remainder of the night phase.

 

[HPSauce]

Separately it list me as Ascetic and the obvious - I can vote and the NK

 

[weemadarthur]

Ascetic role blocking item thief with potential role cop side effects?

*rereads post 7*

oh right. Look i don’t read ok? It’s not just a schtick.

 

[weemadarthur]

Looks like among us, i’m the go-to busing target lol.

 

[Ephidel]

What sort of feedback would a targeting role usually get usually get on an ascetic? Would they be informed of failure or just get a no result? Would it be like if they get blocked? Or would they get nothing?

 

[weemadarthur]

It all depends on the game runner.

i would expect, they’d get nothing, whcih would be the equivalent of them being role blocked. Like, not a PM with “no result”, just no PM at all. But they might. I dunno. I think i saw a game runner once admit that the role was roleblocked in the day’s result PM lol. Like “oops you were roleblocked no result”.

 

[HPSauce]

Anyway, hopefully they won't be on my back straight away and I'll have time to try and come up with something better

I'd hope that given the involvement of certain players day 1 will be a bit of a clusterfuck.

 

[HPSauce]

Which will help you slip by

 

[HPSauce]

I think unless I screw up I'm probably going to last till late in the game.

 

[Ephidel]

Don't jinx it

 

[HPSauce]

We've got Sparks, Jman amd EC who we know can be sources of discord if they face too much pressure.

 

[HPSauce]

Don't jinx it

Immediately shot on day 1

 

[HPSauce]

Not sure if we've played with Natiko or Geno before

 

[HPSauce]

Natiko was in Fate Mafia, was it Geno that had the neutral win in Eastenders?

 

[weemadarthur]

I’ve played with both of them. I think.
geno can be a real gambiter.

 

[weemadarthur]

What if we just didn’t kill any claimed cops?

 

[weemadarthur]

I wonder if there is a miller.
it’s a basic thought whenever there’s a godfather and vice versa.

 

[Ephidel]

What if we just didn’t kill any claimed cops?

What, because they can only actually flag on you?
It's a possibility, but they do also run the risk of clearing a bunch of people we'll need to get rid of later.

I wonder if there is a miller.
it’s a basic thought whenever there’s a godfather and vice versa.

... I'm inclined to lean yes, but they could be lying to us.
If they are, it doesn't really make a huge difference yet.

If someone's role is what prompted that though, a public role announcement every day has the potential to get tricky.

 

[HPSauce]

Sorian possibly pushing for a self-vote

 

[Ephidel]

This community doesn't really do jesters, he's probably just enjoying the attention.

 

[HPSauce]

Which I don't like

 

[HPSauce]

That is to say I don't like the self-vote push. They make me wary.

 

[weemadarthur]

Nah sorian just has a habit of claiming any game function that has gone unclaimed for five minutes. It’s his way.

 

[HPSauce]

So what are we thinking so far?

 

[Ephidel]

That trying to find something to say in the game thread is hard.

Yes, I know that's not exactly the answer you were aiming for

 

[HPSauce]

It's just shitpost central right now

 

[weemadarthur]

What, because they can only actually flag on you?
It's a possibility, but they do also run the risk of clearing a bunch of people we'll need to get rid of later.

Right but y’all could be the bunch of ppl lol.

also it lets the game worry about millers and cops not really existing. If the game flows that way.

 

[weemadarthur]

PLAYERS & POST COUNTS ===


Blargonaut: 61
Stantastic / Stan: 59
TheChuggernaut / Chugg: 35
Sorian: 32
AllThingsPurple / ATP: 18
EvilChameleon / EC: 16
Funky Dude Sparks / Sparkster: 16
Natiko: 13
SalvaPot: 12
Geno: 10
Hawthorn: 9
Ephidel / Ephi: 7
HPsauce / HP: 6
weemadarthur / Wee: 6
jman1954goat / jman: 2

lol we are so lost atm

 

[HPSauce]

lol we are so lost atm

This is by far the messiest day 1 I've ever seen in.

 

[HPSauce]

Don't know if that's a good thing for us or not.

 

[lokiduck]

BTW guys since it wasn't mentioned before ^^ You can copy paste your role PMs \o/

 

[weemadarthur]

Good, tyvm.
i’d do mine but it isn’t intereseting. No foffecitecse

 

[Ephidel]

I would love to know how what I assume is "offense" turned into foffecitecse xD

 

[HPSauce]

You are a Role Thief and Ascetic!

You are aligned with Mafia!

During the night you can target a player with the command, Steal: Player. You will maybe receive an item that is a clue to the role of the player you stole from. You will roleblock the player for the night if they can be roleblocked.

You are also Ascetic. No night actions except for kills will affect you.

 

[HPSauce]

To clear up any confusion

 

[Ephidel]

I'd just like to say that if I do die later today I'm sorry I did not successfully manage to break clear of the bad habits I developed last game when I was protected before walking into this one.
If I don't I promise I will try to do better tomorrow

 

[HPSauce]

I'm a bit concerned. :tamaworry:

 

[weemadarthur]

I would love to know how what I assume is "offense" turned into foffecitecse xD

Vodka

 

[weemadarthur]

Gotta do your own defense on day one.

 

[Ephidel]

Yeah I know.
I got held up longer than I expected.

 

[weemadarthur]

So will a cop even bother with you lol?

 

[Ephidel]

I mean if I'm really lucky Chuggs or ATP are the cop.
Then maybe.

Otherwise god only knows.

 

[weemadarthur]

Right so who do we randomly switch up and who do we suppress

 

[Ephidel]

Oh boy, at least I shouldn't need to explain how I got tracked to the dead person.

 

[weemadarthur]

Tracker down, helps with the fake claims.

 

[weemadarthur]

Ideas
switch me and chuggs in case someone wants to cop him?
kill natiko?
role block hawthorn? For the fight to not look scummy that she’ll have to do along with you?

 

[lokiduck]

Congratulations!!! You all have unlocked a new power! You are all now a Messenger!

During the night, you can each send a message by sending the command, Mail: Player with the message after it. You must send a message every night. First time failure to do so will result in a warning, second offense will result in a mod kill!

 

[Ephidel]

Ideas
switch me and chuggs in case someone wants to cop him?
kill natiko?
role block hawthorn? For the fight to not look scummy that she’ll have to do along with you?

That sounds pretty good, but I'm somewhat dead on my feet atm so I'm going to think about it.
And maybe fall asleep.

 

[Ephidel]

Congratulations!!! You all have unlocked a new power! You are all now a Messenger!

During the night, you can each send a message by sending the command, Mail: Player with the message after it. You must send a message every night. First time failure to do so will result in a warning, second offense will result in a mod kill!

Well.
That's interesting.

We all have to send one each?
Or one between us?
Does the recipient know who sends it?

 

[lokiduck]

We all have to send one each?

Yes you each have to send a message!

Or one between us?

:blobno:

Does the recipient know who sends it?

Nope!

 

[Ephidel]

I mean, I have to ask.
Can we send them to each other?

 

[lokiduck]

I mean, I have to ask.
Can we send them to each other?

As long as they are a player it'll count

 

[weemadarthur]

Can we bounce them off the ascetic shield lol?

 

[weemadarthur]

How about sending a message saying
you have received a bulletproof vest! To somebody

 

[weemadarthur]

And i’ll work up a wordy one to send to sparks

 

[weemadarthur]

For the lulz?

 

[weemadarthur]

But HP should send that one because it can’t be me or blarg that is the whole point

 

[weemadarthur]

I could send one to sorian claiming to be a messenger? It’s a useless role but a nice waste of a claim?

 

[weemadarthur]

Otoh that could just be a competing claim of pointlessness

 

[weemadarthur]

Ooh we could tell someone they have been splashed with gasolina

 

[Ephidel]

As much as I love the idea of mimicing game functions like dousing or armoury it depends on how the message looks when they get it.
I want to say I watched a game where someone tried that and it failed because of how it displayed.

Basically if l they get the message in the form:

You have been sent a message:
You have been doused.

Or something similar then most of them are going to realise it isn't legit :p

 

[weemadarthur]

Spoilsport

 

[HPSauce]

Well that ended up not so bad after all

 

[Ephidel]

@lokiduck @Verelios
Are you prepared to tell us how the message will appear to the receiver?
Will the recipient be told they have received a message and it's whatever, or will they just be given said message?

 

[Ephidel]

As long as they are a player it'll count

Does that mean I could hypothetically send one to myself, because I'm a player?

 

[HPSauce]

Could 'plant' a bomb/poison/whatever on someone?

 

[HPSauce]

Ideas
switch me and chuggs in case someone wants to cop him?
kill natiko?
role block hawthorn? For the fight to not look scummy that she’ll have to do along with you?

Sounds good to me

 

[Verelios]

@lokiduck @Verelios
Are you prepared to tell us how the message will appear to the receiver?
Will the recipient be told they have received a message and it's whatever, or will they just be given said message?

The recipient will be told they have gotten a message.

 

[weemadarthur]

switch: wee and chuggs

 

[weemadarthur]

So is more messages more fun or is keeping it to one messenger appearance more fun?

 

[Verelios]

switch: wee and chuggs

Command Received