Scooby Doo 2: Mafia Unleashed - This time there are costumes!

[Char Gar Gothakon]

He got some sense of humour :)

Tech pushed Skunk EoD 1.
I may have to reconsider my view.

Tech was sus on Alien, mentioning him twice, which is a lot with so few and short posts.


He wasn't opposed to Char lynch D2 (after their gossip night).
Also a push against Skunk D2 again.

What I get from a Tech Iso is that he didn't crumb his target openly. Maybe someone else sees something?
He could've gone for Alien, but that is a weak connection.

It's you or Skunk, I lean towards Skunk, he visited him and died is my guess, Skunk must've claimed something believable to TP.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

I believe you, don't see why you would lie here. This will be more difficult if Gnome flips neutral though. Do you mind explaining your choices btw?

You've talked about Gnome yesterday. First dismissed him as "not likeliest to be scum" among Anthos voters, later in #1014 he is too hard to read. In the same post you also mention but don't talk about snow ghost.

This town list from 30 mins before is missing snow ghost.

Overall you have about four mentions of Snow Ghost (two feels good D1, 1014 and asking Snow C how he feels about Pazzo and Snow G). So you basically avoid any comment on him D2. Did you not feel the need to convey your first check?

you got it backwards. i checked gnome n1 and me coming into d2 with a “weird feeling” or whatever on gnome was a breadcrumb in case i didn’t get a chance to come forward. i checked snow ghost n2.

as for why i selected these players, i checked gnome because i am paranoid about the player i think it is (for good reason clearly), and i checked snow ghost because they were in my nulls reads. i did not pick snow ghost out until after day end so i didn’t crumb that

 

[Neon Phantom]

Regarding gossip, arsonist, red check we are missing input from (if I counted correctly)
@Wax Phantom
@Neon Phantom

And @Hyde Monster hasn't been around to see the red check. Everyone else checked in.

I have not been gossiped with or arsoned.

 

[Snow Creature]

you got it backwards. i checked gnome n1 and me coming into d2 with a “weird feeling” or whatever on gnome was a breadcrumb in case i didn’t get a chance to come forward. i checked snow ghost n2.

as for why i selected these players, i checked gnome because i am paranoid about the player i think it is (for good reason clearly), and i checked snow ghost because they were in my nulls reads. i did not pick snow ghost out until after day end so i didn’t crumb that

For the record, I believe you.

But what made you decide to openly claim now with two checks vs yesterday with just a red check?

 

[Snow Creature]

I have not been gossiped with or arsoned.

Well if Wax is the last one unaccounted for, surely Tech didn't try to talk to them since they're mostly inactive.

 

[Neon Phantom]

you got it backwards. i checked gnome n1 and me coming into d2 with a “weird feeling” or whatever on gnome was a breadcrumb in case i didn’t get a chance to come forward. i checked snow ghost n2.

as for why i selected these players, i checked gnome because i am paranoid about the player i think it is (for good reason clearly), and i checked snow ghost because they were in my nulls reads. i did not pick snow ghost out until after day end so i didn’t crumb that

You had a red check and you sat on it?
I'll give you that D2 is early to out yourself so I don't necessarily think it's off that you waited, but you voted for six people yesterday and none of them were your red check.
Couldn't you have managed a nudge a little stronger than a "weird feeling" if you knew?

 

[Baba Yaga]

My thoughts are all over the place at the moment

@Char Gar Gothakon Tech could easily change his choice during D2, no?

@Cat Creature Would you please come back and respond to my question from first post in your section?

@San Franpsycho Would you please explain wavering standpoint and back and forth about Snow Creature? Your vote at the end doesn't match your read there.

@Scooby Snack Monster Wait, what? I see your initial distrust of Gnome+questioning D2, but how came this read to be after the check?

what ill say in gnome's defense, player i think gnome is would not have gone for franky on night kill and not as weather vaney as I am used to seeing them. not done much to hide identity, either. not concerned with meta reads, but could also be a flex. otherwise reasonable play from him so far. not likeliest to be scum in this pool.

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

you got it backwards. i checked gnome n1 and me coming into d2 with a “weird feeling” or whatever on gnome was a breadcrumb in case i didn’t get a chance to come forward. i checked snow ghost n2.

as for why i selected these players, i checked gnome because i am paranoid about the player i think it is (for good reason clearly), and i checked snow ghost because they were in my nulls reads. i did not pick snow ghost out until after day end so i didn’t crumb that

That's such a weird play, but we gotta try Gnome.

My thoughts are all over the place at the moment

@Char Gar Gothakon Tech could easily change his choice during D2, no?

@Cat Creature Would you please come back and respond to my question from first post in your section?

@San Franpsycho Would you please explain wavering standpoint and back and forth about Snow Creature? Your vote at the end doesn't match your read there.

@Scooby Snack Monster Wait, what? I see your initial distrust of Gnome+questioning D2, but how came this read to be after the check?

Sure, but I also suspect Stickybeard so I think it's a good place to try.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

For the record, I believe you.

But what made you decide to openly claim now with two checks vs yesterday with just a red check?

You had a red check and you sat on it?
I'll give you that D2 is early to out yourself so I don't necessarily think it's off that you waited, but you voted for six people yesterday and none of them were your red check.
Couldn't you have managed a nudge a little stronger than a "weird feeling" if you knew?

@Scooby Snack Monster Wait, what? I see your initial distrust of Gnome+questioning D2, but how came this read to be after the check?

like i told lightning, i had my reasons for doing this a certain way. i can’t explain them right now

 

[Baba Yaga]

Gnome - Sans - Boo - Alien - Captain

There we have it. It explains everything. town picked 3 of them and all of them stacking on Anthos lynched.
yeah this is what happened for sure.

Anyway we've got a lot of greens floating around and none of them are on the Anthos lynch so far. In fact (trusting Snack) only Stan and Boo are unknown from the competing train D1. Best chances to catch probably two scum are in the Anthos voters - Captain, Sans, Gnome, Boo, Alien, Snow C.

 

[Baba Yaga]

like i told lightning, i had my reasons for doing this a certain way. i can’t explain them right now

Oh no, it's a

 

[Snow Creature]

like i told lightning, i had my reasons for doing this a certain way. i can’t explain them right now

Fair enough, I'll trust you since Gnome is really the only chance now. We need that answer.

But Neon and Baba do raise some good points that might be worth circling back to at some point. This is a good blanket way to avoid scrutiny, so you can see why it might get some skepticism.

So what are we doing with the Gnome vote? Are we going to let it run for the whole day phase?

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

Fair enough, I'll trust you since Gnome is really the only chance now. We need that answer.

But Neon and Baba do raise some good points that might be worth circling back to at some point. This is a good blanket way to avoid scrutiny, so you can see why it might get some skepticism.

So what are we doing with the Gnome vote? Are we going to let it run for the whole day phase?

Nah, end it around the 24h mark, there'll be no activity after so there's no point.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

i’ll be ready to close out the day in the next few hours. want to reread gnome to make sure there’s nothing left to dissect in case i don’t live through tonight

 

[Hyde Monster]

@Scooby Snack Monster are you sure Gnome is scum, and not neutral? Does the red check specify it.

Because that claim from Gnome (assuming it's not a big fat lie) sounds like a neutral role. Find some specific player (dogs I guess) and kill them.

VOTE: Gnome

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

@Scooby Snack Monster are you sure Gnome is scum, and not neutral? Does the red check specify it.

Because that claim from Gnome (assuming it's not a big fat lie) sounds like a neutral role. Find some specific player (dogs I guess) and kill them.

VOTE: Gnome

Yeah nah, if he was neutral he'd come out and say it.

 

[Alien]

How far off turbo are we? 2?

I'm happy to trust the red check here but I don't really want to put us 1 away

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

How far off turbo are we? 2?

I'm happy to trust the red check here but I don't really want to put us 1 away

It's ok, I will.
Vote: Gnome

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

unvote

digging in now. would like to hold off on turbo.

also just to voice agreement, tech's n2 target was probably scum

 

[Char Gar Gothakon]

tech's n2 target was probably scum

Agreed, unless Wax has something to say but I honestly doubt, TP didn't mention Wax to me, only Skunk and Baba.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

hats off to gnome, great effort at not linking himself definitively to any players. also lots of defending players who have flipped town or are semi-confirmed now (Franky, Char). I wouldn't go as far as to look at all his town reads as clears, but would like to look at some reads that stand out

I haven't read back, but based on what he's done recently. I don't think he's scum.

He just reads more like a frustrated townie than a scum to me.

I just don't buy Boo as scum still. Feels like he was getting scum read for general day 1 crap before all the newbie nonsense, and everything with the newbie stuff just seems like town who messed up rather than scum doing it with a purpose.

for one that's unflipped, gnome has a town read on boobear early in d1. not sure where i land on this one because it's not a super strong read, could go either way.

Stallin' Stan folded quick once he was called out on the Boo stuff and I'm not a big fan of that at all. Reexamining your scum reads is a good thing, but the speed at which he did that just from the slightest pressure just feels weird. Wonder if scum was expecting Boo to have more heat on him today than he ended up having.

Vote: Stan

i think when gnome chooses to go after stan here is interesting. he calls him out a good bit before day end. could have been trying to bus a teammate though the support didnt materialize, but it makes him look good when stan ends up on the chopping block. i'm seeing more town in stan yesterday and today, but i dont think my reads are ironclad so if i were looking for connections this is definitely one to push.

Pazzo, Sans, Snack, Techni, Kook, and Cat Creat are probably who I feel the best about at the moment, but there's so many unknowns right now.

definitely one scum in these reads. take out myself and techni, you're left with pazzo, sans, cat, and kook.

@Snow Creature I remember not loving his posts at EoD, but I thought the meowing thing was more likely to be town and scum. I think he’s done a solid job today also. I like the work he’s putting in.

super strong town read on cat creature tells me its unlikely to be cat creature. gnome wouldn't tie himself to a scum teammate like this.

Hm.

Vote: Lightning Strikes

Not a big fan of the confidence in this flip and the role fishing earlier

Look I’ve always wanted to be in one of those last minute town swerves where we nail scum okay

sans pointed it out, but the attempted swerve to lightning takes lightning off the table imo. i thought lightning was town before and i think this strengthens that read.

 

[Woodsman]

I think if Wax was in the gossip chat he would probably have told Hyde at least.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

the game still feels very open, so it's going to be hard to figure out where to go from here even with this flip, but i would personally remove these players from vote discussion until we've exhausted other avenues:

CGG
hyde
wax
snow ghost

players I'm personally reading as town:

lightning
Alien
kook
pazzo
cat creature
neon
captain

who i've still got in my poe right now:

sans (reads town but im extremely paranoid and she shouldn't drop off anyone's radar)
snow creature
baba yaga
stan
woodsman
boobeard

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

with that, i'm ready to advance to tomorrow. i'll work on a kook read because sans asked nicely for now

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

disclaimer i think i know who kook is and it might be coloring how i look at her, but i'll keep my read to what she's actually done in this game

Hmm. What do you know??

I dunno about scummy, but it feels like a hint at something and I'm on to you Wax!

kneejerk reaction to wax throwing baseless speculation out that felt more relaxed and less probey than anthos' post did.

We're definitely voting someone out today, that's our strongest ability as town!

Did someone just get scooby snack bombed? Is that like a dangerous bomb or one that just explodes into food?

Dang, you're all just bouncing from one quiet person to another! We can't get any exciting reactions out of this!

generally very relaxed and her posts have levity to them. doesn't feel like she's weighed down by trying act like she's taking the game seriously.

Looking at some of the low post count people, and this is what I see.

[He/Him] Technicolor Phantom|Tech has 1 post in the game so far and it's just this



[He/Him] Lightning Strikes|Lightning - UTC has no posts at all


[He/Him] Cat Creature - UTC - Has posted several times but only in meows


[He/Him] Baba Yaga - UTC - Only has these 2 posts






[He/Him] Ghost Bear - UTC - Is up to 5 posts but they are mostly around the start of the day focused on shaggy and not claiming


Looking at all of these and trying to figure out which could be scum trying to slide by, I think I have to land here for now.

VOTE : Cat Creature

Some of these feel like genuine low activity and there's a chance they'll come by later in the day and stand out in a good way, but Cat Creature's bit is a good cover for not making connections with people in the game that could be used later on.

This is kind of a weird post to me to be honest. It's fairly defensive over what did feel like a prod vote to me. Prod votes are safe and a good way to just have a vote down with little pressure. But like, you're here and active now, if the votes didn't fall off we would notice.

which does not mean she's not trying to contribute. even on d1, trying to parse low activity players or small actions others were taking and give reads on them.

Snow Creature and Pazzo's votes both felt kind of odd to me. Pazzo was on Boobeard and stated that they would vote Anthos to break a tie, but then why jump to a vote where I'm the only other person on it? Like, there was no chance of Ghost Bear happening in the last 5 minutes. At the very least, Pazzo was pretty clear about why they were voting for people

Snow Creature's is just questionable and voting for someone that they don't want voted out but tried to paint it as the right call, which doesn't really make sense in my head. So, I'm going to land here

Vote: Snow Creature

kook doesn't read like she's posting thoughts for the sake of posting thoughts. she feels like she's working through thoughts as she posts.

My only real problem with voting for Wax Phantom is just wondering, what does it give us? If Wax is town, it was just a weird cosplay that didn't work out. If they're scum, we managed to hit one but does it give us any leads or connections?

Is that really all we're going to get out of Wax? Just saying 'this person seems scummy' and then a bunch of memes? If they're town, I don't really get it. If they're scum, I don't really understand why they wouldn't pivot once everyone is aiming for them

only player questioning the wax vote with a well-reasoned line of thoughts. i dont feel like scum would push back so much on a (now strongly believed to be) town player vote.

so a lot of it is how she approaches her prods and pokes, what personality is behind the wheel and whether she seems to be making more calculated posts or not.

---

god forbid if they have a role like Geno's last costume party and escape to another body mid game.

side note, this is a funny post in hindsight

 

[Woodsman]

going back to anthos vote, statistically unlikely that the vote is clean. will start there to try to lessen pool of players being looked at.

captain
sans
gnome
boobeard
snack
alien
snow creature

[...]

what ill say in gnome's defense, player i think gnome is would not have gone for franky on night kill and not as weather vaney as I am used to seeing them. not done much to hide identity, either. not concerned with meta reads, but could also be a flex. otherwise reasonable play from him so far. not likeliest to be scum in this pool.

[...]

So I was rereading Gnome and came upon this post. What is up with that?

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

vote: gnome

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

So I was rereading Gnome and came upon this post. What is up with that?

like i told lightning, i had my reasons for doing this a certain way. i can’t explain them right now

 

[Snow Creature]

Is that 9? Any objections to the hammer?

Also is Ael back, because we'll have to be well-behaved and go to bed if they're not here to end the day.

 

[Gnome]

Yeah, it's dead enough where I don't think they're going to turbo anytime soon so I'm not too concerned about it. Think we can hold off until it activates. I'll probably go in there and make some more noise in a bit.

 

[Neon Phantom]

There's no question we're doing this today because we can't just ignore a red check but I do want to get down on record that I'm really not fond of all this "I'll explain everything later"-ing.

I feel like we're being rushed through this by someone who wants it done before it can be evaluated, and I know that's hypocritical when I haven't contributed any evaluation of my own but that is what it is.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

lol

 

[Neon Phantom]

Go in where and make some noise, exactly?

 

[Woodsman]

There's no question we're doing this today because we can't just ignore a red check but I do want to get down on record that I'm really not fond of all this "I'll explain everything later"-ing.

I feel like we're being rushed through this by someone who wants it done before it can be evaluated, and I know that's hypocritical when I haven't contributed any evaluation of my own but that is what it is.

Same tbh.

 

[Hyde Monster]

I think if Wax was in the gossip chat he would probably have told Hyde at least.

Last post Wax made in Mason chat was right after confirming mason status here. He hasn't posted anything over there during N2 or D3.

 

[Scooby Snack Monster]

come on gnome, do a proper mask off

 

[Gnome]

Oh that was meant to go in neutral chat

 

[Snow Creature]

Yeah, it's dead enough where I don't think they're going to turbo anytime soon so I'm not too concerned about it. Think we can hold off until it activates. I'll probably go in there and make some more noise in a bit.

lol I don't even know what this is anymore.

vote: Gnome

 

[Gnome]

Ruh roh

 

[Gnome]

Hey fire person, leave my friends alone and they’ll be your friends too.

 

[RetroMG]

PLEASE STAND BY

AND FOR GOD'S SAKE, STOP PINGING ME ON DISCORD.

YES, ALL SIX OF YOU JUST GOT THE SAME RESPONSE.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

Yeah, it's dead enough where I don't think they're going to turbo anytime soon so I'm not too concerned about it. Think we can hold off until it activates. I'll probably go in there and make some more noise in a bit.

I dont believe this is a real slip Your just having a goof.

 

[RetroMG]

THE DAY HAS ENDED. PLEASE STAND BY FOR AELEUS.

Sorry for the grumpiness earlier, I was in the middle of a work emergency.

 

[Aeleus]

Yall really turbo despite me saying I'd be away geeze

Flip might take a while as I just got back.

 

[Aeleus]

Day 3 Ends

 

[Aeleus]

[He/Him] Gnome - UTC		(10 votes)
[He/Him] Scooby Snack Monster|Snack - UTC
[He/Him] Captain Skunkbeard|Captain - UTC
[She/Her] San Franpsycho|Sans - UTC
[She/Her] Spooky Space Kook|Kook - UTC
[He/Him] Pazzo the Ghost Clown|Pazzo - UTC
[He/Him] Lightning Strikes|Lightning - UTC
[He/Him] Baba Yaga - UTC
[They/Them] Hyde Monster - UTC
[He/Him] Char Gar Gothakon|CGG - UTC
[He/Him] Scooby Snack Monster|Snack - UTC
[He/Him] Snow Creature - UTC
[He/Him] Woodsman - UTC		(1 vote)
[He/Him] Lightning Strikes|Lightning - UTC
[He/Him] BooBeard - UTC
[He/Him] Char Gar Gothakon|CGG - UTC		(0 votes)
[He/Him] Baba Yaga - UTC

 

[Aeleus]

The Ghost of Stealin Stan: This is hopeless, we're baddies, we don't solve mysteries we create them!
Scooby Snack Monster: Don't panic yet, I've got a plan
The scooby snack monster reaches for a glass and throws it to the ground, shattering it. The others looks at him, confused.
Scooby Snack Monster: Whoops, I seem to have made a bit of a mess, would someone mind cleaning that up for me?
Pazzo the Ghost Clown: What? You made the mess, you clean it up, idiot.
The scooby snack monster reachs into his costume and pulls out a yet unseen object
Scooby Snack Monster: Would you do it for a Scooby Snack?
Everyone starts trembling, they all want that snack but they know what it'd mean if they take it...
Gnome: Ron't rorry, I've rot rhis! Rive me rhat snack!
Scooby Snack Monster: GET HIM!

Gnome has died!

You are the Gnome: your true identity is Scooby Doo, aligned with The Meddling Kids (MAFIA)

Following a tip from a 'Mr. E' the gang discovered a night club where past baddies were planning the gang's downfall, after trapping Gill Littlefoot (fake flavour claim) and taking their costume you were ready to infiltrate and take down this scheme from the inside.

Rwo Rowers? Ree Hee Hee Hee, you are the JOAT

You have two 1-shot powers which can be used in the night, you cannot use them both in the same night
Redact: <Player>: When the targeted player dies, their flavour and alignment will be shown but all other information will be redacted, if this power targets non-town it will only stay in effect while you are alive (this applies retroactively)
[higlight]Switch: <PlayerA>, <PlayerB>[/highlight], all players who target player A this night will instead target player B and vice versa

You share a faction kill with your team that you may perform once per night with the command kill: <PLAYER NAME>. You may not use your power and the faction kill on the same night unless you are the last Mafia player alive.

You win when the Meddling Kids controls 50% of the votes and all threats to the Meddling Kids have been eliminated.

Night 3 Ends in:

Night actions are due 2 hours before the start of the next Day.

 

[Aeleus]

Actions lock in 2 hours

 

[Aeleus]

Actions locked 10 minutes ago

 

[Aeleus]

The various baddies stand around the wounded scooby snack monster awkwardly, unsure of what to do
Scooby Snack Monster: Why won't any of you help me? Please someone, help... I'll give you a scooby snack for it...
No one moves. No one wants to be seen accepting scooby snacks
Scooby Snack Monster: Won't anyone help me for a scooby snack..?
Alien moves forward and smacks the snacks out of the snack monster's hands, in response the snack monster falls to the ground and starts to attempt to scoop them back up
Alien: See! I don't need the snacks! I don't even want them! I'm not one of those damn kids!
Scooby Snack Monster: What... what have I done?
He loses conciousness

Scooby Snack Monster has died!

You are the Scooby Snack Monster: your true identity is Penelope Bailey, aligned with The Bad Guys (TOWN)

Your vast knowledge of scooby snacks has given you an expert sense in sniffing out their various ingredients, in this case vanilla, you are the Vanilla Cop

Each night you may use the command Investigate: Player to learn if they are a vanilla role (ie. have powers other than what is inheritely expected via their faction)

You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Day 4 Begins

Day 4 Ends:

Majority is 9

Vote spreadsheet:

Scooby Doo 2 - voting

docs.google.com

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

Char Gar Gothakon is Not Soft-Confirmed (In Fact He is Mafia)
a pre-typed post

TL;DR: CCG was TP's N2 partner, not his N1 partner. TP gossiped with a dead player N1, probably ghost bear. Evidence: TP never town read ccg on D2, but he did defend ghost bear.

Long version:

We know that TP trusted his N2 gossip partner because if he thought they were mafia, he would have used his vig shot. It's usual to share extra info in a night chat when both partners town read each other. Therefore, TP likely might have revealed the identity of his N1 partner to his N2 partner.

Consider this scenario:

N1, TP gossiped with Frankenstein or Ghost Bear (most likely Ghost Bear). The next night, he gossiped with CCG. CCG managed to get TP to town read him. TP claimed to CCG that he gossiped with GB. The next day, after seeing the flip, mafia decided to take advantage of the situation by getting one of their own "soft-confirmed". CCG was up on the chopping block at the end of the previous day & mafia saw TP's flip as a good opportunity to rehabilitate him. CCG's claim came almost six hours after start of day -- more than enough time to discuss in scum chat and come up with the plan, more if TP fully claimed in the chat & they realized overnight what might happen. They knew that no one would counter-claim the N1 chat because GB (or Frankie) was dead.

Alternatively, it could even be that TP gossiped with another mafia member N2, not CCG, but the mafia team decided it would be best for CCG to claim in order to get him out of trouble.

If this theory is true, I would expect that TP:
-Town read Ghost Bear D2 OR seemed curious about Frankenstein D1
-Did not strongly read CCG after N1

Sure enough, on D2 Techno defended Ghost Bear to the best of his ability, considering the facts he had to work with. He wouldn't have wanted to expose himself by going public with a green check, but he did go for the "scum wouldn't coast that much" argument.

Ghost Bear is even less of a presence than I thought. Hardly anything besides voting for Boo. Don't want to fall into the trap of "scum wouldn't put this little effort in would they" but scum wouldn't put this little effort in would they? I'd be fine with voting him.

After that post, Techno never voted for ghost bear. When the mason claim came, he unvoted hyde and suggest various alternatives to ghost bear, one of which ... was CCG.

Oh I think I may know who San Fran is. Not that it means much.

Mason claim is believable. Wax doing the bare minimum and then ghosting is annoying but not worth voting for. Char is a viable alternative assuming he doesn't go elsewhere.

So...anyone want to vote Skunk?

Techno never voted again after unvoting Hyde for his mason claim. He ended D2 without a vote town, probably because of the turbo on ghost bear.

If Techno had a green check on CCG N1, why did he never publicly town-read CCG D2? Why did he suggest CCG as a good alternate train to Ghost Bear? Why did he not vote ghost bear, the alternative train to his green check?

If CCG gossiped with Techno N1, he knew from reading Techno's flip that if he claimed he would be widely town-read. Why was his first post complaining about Baba outing him as Geno? It took him another 25 minutes after that first post to post his one-sentence claim. Why wouldn't he have claimed in his first post rather than waiting?

I know who you are, but I'm not going to out you like you did with me, what a dumb move, even if half of the roster knows who I am, why out me like that? Anyway Town Geno isn't lazy? Look how much I played in the last game, town Geno doesn't claim last minute neither as scum nor town, I challenge you to provide an example as scum where I have done that. Scum Geno always gives out reads. Town Geno also throws shit at the wall, check Bumble King or Berserk or probably others I'm forgetting. You're dead wrong on your guess.

I was the n1 target for TP btw.

"But stan that's too convoluted!!" I ask you: which is the simpler explanation?
Scenario A: TP gossiped with ghost bear N1 and mafia N2, did his best to defend his green check N1, and told his chat partner who he gossiped with before. Mafia saw the flip and decided to do a gambit to save a team-mate who was up for elimination the day before.
Scenario B: TP gossiped with CCG N1 and had a green check on him. So, he mentioned CCG only to suggest him as an alternative train to an inactive poster. The next day, after TP died, CCG claimed the N1 chat & its green check 25 minutes after he checked in.

vote: CCG

i had to use capital letters to make my argument clear, but don't take anything about my identity from that.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

Wow, good job snack. i have no idea how you pulled that off being only a vanilla cop, but kudos to you

 

[San Franpsycho]

I got back about half an hour after turbo and didn't have a chance to respond but let me see if I understand:
Scoobs red-checked Gnome, but actually did it night 1, then did some hand waving and said I'll explain later, which was weird, and then died anyway and it turns out it was actually a fake red check but also one that got lucky?

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

vote: CGG

Not CCG.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

I got back about half an hour after turbo and didn't have a chance to respond but let me see if I understand:
Scoobs red-checked Gnome, but actually did it night 1, then did some hand waving and said I'll explain later, which was weird, and then died anyway and it turns out it was actually a fake red check but also one that got lucky?

that's how it is as far as i see it. Also snack "green checked" snow ghost, but dont think we can rely on that given the flip

 

[Wax Phantom]

I can 100% guarantee you Town can't kill me day 3 if they tried.

now might be your best chance to Day kill me.

 

[Neon Phantom]

Alternatively, it could even be that TP gossiped with another mafia member N2, not CCG, but the mafia team decided it would be best for CCG to claim in order to get him out of trouble.

This section of your case isn't possible because in that case Tech would have died a day earlier.
The rest is though and I need to think about it.

After I finish thinking about the fact that we got lucky with that fake red check being scum and not a town power role.

 

[Neon Phantom]

For some reason I thought you were saying you thought they took up both night's chats, so ignore me saying that's not possible, it's entirely possible and I'm just an idiot.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

This section of your case isn't possible because in that case Tech would have died a day earlier.
The rest is though and I need to think about it.

After I finish thinking about the fact that we got lucky with that fake red check being scum and not a town power role.

It is possible, because it would be N2 that the gossip happened. Thanks for thinking it over.

 

[Wax Phantom]

OH BUDDY

OH BUDDY

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

For some reason I thought you were saying you thought they took up both night's chats, so ignore me saying that's not possible, it's entirely possible and I'm just an idiot.

and sorry for the cross post

 

[Snow Creature]

A lot of work

Wow, great work Stan. That's a super compelling argument. I'm gonna let that ruminate but I like your logic. I tried throwing the idea around in my own head but didn't get anywhere with it, so I'm glad someone did.

And god knows what happened with Snack. Won't complain about getting scum though.

 

[Neon Phantom]

Oh, you remembered where your posting functions were. Welcome back.

 

[San Franpsycho]

That negates the green on Snow G, then, will have to go back and read responses to that if there were any that were notable. Wild. Welp, I have a few things I want to answer from yesterday pre turbo but then I will not be here for the rest of the day I think. Real day, not phase. I'm sick for the first time in over a year and it frankly sucks.

@San Franpsycho Would you please explain wavering standpoint and back and forth about Snow Creature? Your vote at the end doesn't match your read there.

Voting Hyde made Hyde actually participate, so I moved to someone else I wanted to get more involved. It's too hard to keep all these faceless people straight without some kind of activity.

 

[Wax Phantom]

Oh, you remembered where your posting functions were. Welcome back.

OH BUDDY

 

[San Franpsycho]

The other thing was that Lightning asked about real identities but that seems to be all just regular knowledge. It's in the flips. we could look up any costume and see the person's "real" identity. Example: Yours is Barry. Mine is Rutie Banez. I don't think that's it.

 

[Wax Phantom]

@Lightning Strikes Are you fucken with us

 

[Snow Creature]

So with Snack, maybe he got an extra message because he checked Scooby, since he's all about the snacks, no idea.

For Snow Ghost, maybe he got a green check as in Ghost is vanilla, but that doesn't tell us alignment because they could be a normal scum with just the regular kill.

 

[BooBeard]

Wow Snack that was pretty crazy. A big gamble but it paid off. I am assuming town has no protective roles on our side, otherwise someone would've saved him. I don't think Snow Ghost can be considered cleared anymore.

Stan I like your logic, I am going over your post again to make sure I completely follow. Char has been suspicious and insular so far. I think I'd be okay starting with a vote there for today.

 

[San Franpsycho]

That is an interesting theory on Char but right now it feels like my stomach is swallowing the rest of my body and then exploding so I will dig into it more later. There being only one kill d2 does make it likely Techni died due to chat or to direct kill at least.

My overnight PoE is big but here's where all the people i'm most sus on are: Boo, Woodsman, Skunkbeard, Stan, Alien, Kook
Though after start of day movement I would put Snow Ghost in it maybe and pull Stan out? Char pending, curious to see his reaction there lol

 

[Lightning Strikes]

OMG Gnome got Punked by a Vanilla Cop that's So funny. I would be so salty if that was me.

 

[Wax Phantom]

@Lightning Strikes Why can't we kill you on day 3?

 

[San Franpsycho]

Also for the record I did not get anything about being doused.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

The other thing was that Lightning asked about real identities but that seems to be all just regular knowledge. It's in the flips. we could look up any costume and see the person's "real" identity. Example: Yours is Barry. Mine is Rutie Banez. I don't think that's it.

yeah the "real identities" are guesable from the flavor. not hard to figure out. costume -> real identity -> era username -> real life. we're on the 4th layer lol

 

[Neon Phantom]

OH BUDDY

Before you forget how to post again I don't suppose you feel like role claiming just to confirm your absence wasn't taken advantage of?

I don't actually think it was at this point but it would be remiss not to confirm.

 

[San Franpsycho]

If Char does turn out to be mafia, that puts me back to reading Kook hard as possible partner, still say that fake push was weird, but now I'm going to bed to die, maybe I will feel better after a nap

 

[Lightning Strikes]

The other thing was that Lightning asked about real identities but that seems to be all just regular knowledge. It's in the flips. we could look up any costume and see the person's "real" identity. Example: Yours is Barry. Mine is Rutie Banez. I don't think that's it.

I don't know Much about scooby doo Lore so your probably correct

 

[Lightning Strikes]

Vote:CGG

 

[Snow Creature]

Also for the record I did not get anything about being doused.

I forgot about this. I wasn't either.

 

[The Ghost of Stealin Stan]

also i won't be around for the rest of the evening-- i have friends over, but i told them i'd have to ignore them for a bit to make my post at day start. see you all later

 

[Lightning Strikes]

@Lightning Strikes Are you fucken with us

NO.

 

[BooBeard]

Yeah I'm good with this:

Vote: CGG

 

[Lightning Strikes]

But stan that's too convoluted!

Not that convoluted at all.

as long as Techni color told CGG ghost bear was his talking partner this is very plausible. (not sure why color spilled this info.)

 

[Snow Creature]

Not that convoluted at all.

as long as Techni color told CGG ghost bear was his talking partner this is very plausible. (not sure why color spilled this info.)

Considering Bear died that day, I could see Tech telling Char that's why he backed him so much.

Similarly, Tech posted after Char's outburst towards the end of D2, so if he bought it as sincere, it explains why he trusted Char. It does fit as a theory.

 

[Wax Phantom]

NO.

Are you bullet proof on day 3?????

Vote: CGG

Also I'am also a mason who is partnered with @Hyde Monster

 

[Wax Phantom]

No one else is sus of @Lightning Strikes ????

 

[Lightning Strikes]

Are you bullet proof on day 3?????

Vote: CGG

Also I'am also a mason who is partnered with @Hyde Monster

Have any Oysters for sale? maybe some tilapia? salmon perhaps?

 

[Wax Phantom]

Have any Oysters for sale? maybe some tilapia? salmon perhaps?

Fuck you it's day 3 say something useful with your magical computer box or else fuck off

 

[Hyde Monster]

I'm not sure if I buy that theory about Gar yet.

Fuck you it's day 3 say something useful with your magical computer box or else fuck off

Honey, my Wax. There's no need for this level of hostility.

 

[Wax Phantom]

Are you lunch proof at least


are you lunch bomb or anything

which Im leaning on lunch bomb which would be hilariously infuriating

 

[Wax Phantom]

I'm not sure if I buy that theory about Gar yet.



Honey, my Wax. There's no need for this level of hostility.

Role fishing on day 3? It's more likely then you think you jerk @Lightning Strikes

 

[Lightning Strikes]

Are you lunch proof at least


are you lunch bomb or anything

which Im leaning on lunch bomb which would be hilariously infuriating

Fuck you it's day 3 say something useful with your magical computer box or else fuck off

Our Local Fisherman Needs to calm down.

 

[Wax Phantom]

Our Local Fisherman Needs to calm down.

I am in disbelief that you go explode like that and no one else suspect you

no one

you can't even say why

can't even say if you're even lunch bomb or lunch proof

Yah Im fishing on day one surejan.gif

Now you're making pay attention to the game and read the other days and for that I hope you're happy

 

[Wax Phantom]

Char Gon Gothakon is scum and that's why I'm voting for them

I can't help but wonder whose partner is yours @Lightning Strikes

 

[Wax Phantom]

That's the worst

I have to actually pay attention to the game and actually study everything

MANNNNN

that sucks

 

[Hyde Monster]

@The Ghost of Stealin Stan if TP suggested Gar as alternative lunch in D2 and then gossiped them in N2, why didn't they kill them that night?

 

[Alien]

Nothing interesting to report overnight on my end. Really compelling argument from Stan.

 

[Lightning Strikes]

@The Ghost of Stealin Stan if TP suggested Gar as alternative lunch in D2 and then gossiped them in N2, why didn't they kill them that night?

This is the Million Dollar question I am still trying to rap my mind around.

 

[Wax Phantom]

@The Ghost of Stealin Stan if TP suggested Gar as alternative lunch in D2 and then gossiped them in N2, why didn't they kill them that night?

Seems a bit off

 

[Baba Yaga]

I've been doused.

And I won't be around before Sunday, maybe I'll have a peak here and there tomorrow but can't contribute anything substantial.

You all know I love to see Char squirm. Had the same idea as Stan in my head, but Occam made me doubt. The single most damning evidence is the D2 "char is a viable alternative assuming he doesn't go elsewhere" though.

vote: cgg