Planning a War (Or how to take it over at least)

Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
This feels like another Servant tbh. Z-Beat didn't really fight at all.
 
Reki

Reki

Dunno if we can just ask?

Making yourself a LR doesn't track with the command name nor the fact that you have to pick a target. It's so weird.
 
AllThingsPurple

AllThingsPurple

Fate looks odd, asking launch to vote someone other than z beat but not moving his own vote, stan won't have helped his case much. Launch didn't look great voting va then jumping to z beat, va and leo will still have suspicions etc there is a lot to pick at tomorrow
 
Pandora

Pandora

Oh lol, yeah. If i weren't scum and saw that back and forth with beat. Id vote beat cause he looked bad in the exchange. Nat isn't going to like this later tho
 
Pandora

Pandora

AllThingsPurple said:
Fate looks odd, asking launch to vote someone other than z beat but not moving his own vote, stan won't have helped his case much. Launch didn't look great voting va then jumping to z beat, va and leo will still have suspicions etc there is a lot to pick at tomorrow
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Another reason to add to my launchpad scum project. The same freakin issue too. Lmfao, i just can't
 
HPSauce

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Sad that Sephi died. First fate discord memer down. That's a great result for us though.
 
lokiduck

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
I don't mean to interrupt you all my dear scummies, but you have received a command @Pandora. You are being commanded to use your motivate shot on Vincent Alexander. If you attempt any other action, or do not target Vincent Alexander you will be Roleblocked.
 
A Wild Shark Appears

A Wild Shark Appears

Our resident acupuncturist
lokiduck said:
I don't mean to interrupt you all my dear scummies, but you have received a command @Pandora. You are being commanded to use your motivate shot on Vincent Alexander. If you attempt any other action, or do not target Vincent Alexander you will be Roleblocked.
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Are we allowed to ask if it’s a permanent roleblock?
 
AllThingsPurple

AllThingsPurple

lokiduck said:
I don't mean to interrupt you all my dear scummies, but you have received a command @Pandora. You are being commanded to use your motivate shot on Vincent Alexander. If you attempt any other action, or do not target Vincent Alexander you will be Roleblocked.
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Would this same message have been posted in my and Pandora's pair chat if we were town?
 
Pandora

Pandora

Hmmm are we able to talk about this action in day chat? Then again it's risky as we don't know what the ability is
 
Reki

Reki

There's a lot to untangle here.

That is a Captain-like - love that role! - and VA either suspects you and wants to get affected negatively/die for the good of town's vote analysis, or trusts you and wants to have a way to confirm his power in the event of a claim. Which I'd advise you to do, hopefully immediately, as being hush-hush about confirming someone else will get you funny side-eyes.

He'll probably claim at day start due to the likely heat he'll get, and it'd be good to have a fake roleclaim prepared for you so the little details you may share don't bite you later. In any case, you can easily argue that you didn't obey as you haven't really trusted him iirc, in order to save the shot for later.

Keep in mind, tho, that flipping VA D3 makes analyzing voting records of D1 and D2 waaaay easier for town, as they'll finally realize it was TvT in both cases. I'm not sure that's our optimal push for the phase.

AllThingsPurple said:
Just quoting this so its easier to find
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Am I the only one thinking, that looks like VA's power?

Maybe someone used a Switch and it triumphed the LR, redirecting the Steal to VA? Gonna default to Faddy here, he knows all the design stuff.

No idea about the NK, whichever you like is fine. Except wee, Nat and Launch, if I may ask.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Reki said:
Maybe someone used a Switch and it triumphed the LR, redirecting the Steal to VA? Gonna default to Faddy here, he knows all the design stuff.
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Nothing really trumps lightning rod but i guess it is probable that I didn't target Ael because what I got is not their command.

I actually don't think VA and Terra are together. i think this is probably Terra thinking Pandora is scum and wants to re-direct a night kill to VA for info.

Do we need the motivate shot? If not i think Pandora should target VA and if they need to claim just claim 1-shot motivator.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I'm fine for just killing Hedin again.

Should I forced someone to target someone else? This is the same role I had in MGS. Did someone claim they were a watcher?
 
Pandora

Pandora

I don't mind using it, so what are we doing? Either way there are explanations for both. Also, terra is scum baiting me?
 
Reki

Reki

Wait when did Terra get in all this again?

Pandora, I'd say it's up to you, as you'll have to justify why did/didn't you trust VA this night. You could even mention talking about it with your partner, so maybe ATP's read of VA should be considered - as pairings become more obvious with the player pool dwindling down -.

Faddy said:
Did someone claim they were a watcher?
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That was Fate, self-watcher.
 
Pandora

Pandora

Reki said:
Wait when did Terra get in all this again?

Pandora, I'd say it's up to you, as you'll have to justify why did/didn't you trust VA this night. You could even mention talking about it with your partner, so maybe ATP's read of VA should be considered - as pairings become more obvious with the player pool dwindling down -.


That was Fate, self-watcher.
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Faddy mentioned Terra. I'll not use it then since i thought them sus, and the last post they made then
 
Reki

Reki

What about Ephi for the NK? She's been a bit on the quiet side - maybe good role, maybe a Master? - and she'll probably go after either VA or HP, both of which wouldn't be good.

@Faddy could you please explain how does Terra fit in all this?
 
AllThingsPurple

AllThingsPurple

I prefer hedin personally but its a group choice so I'll defer to majority. Ephi death will probably increase suspicions on VA though if that is something you are trying to avoid
 
AllThingsPurple

AllThingsPurple

Its tough because most of the more active players haven't really pushed me, it was mostly low activity players that were going after me aside from Hedin and slightly launch
 
Pandora

Pandora

alright, two options

Hedin or Ephi

Hedin - would get off of ATP, and might get away from any targets on us. Will probably get questions if they were the n1 target

Ephi - would help HP, but will put a target on VA that Reki doesn't want

Is there a reason why you want to protect VA reki? I think i might have missed that

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ATP and I already decided to ignore the command I got
 
Reki

Reki

Wouldn't mind Random, although I thought he liked ATP and me so that could be a potential push if one of us dies, maybe?

Pandora, a VA flip means the vote totals of D1 and D2 are easier to read as he was the second wagon in both. He's a liability to town due to that; not knowing his alignment is detrimental to vote analysis and will be a talking point until his death. As such, he's also good to keep investigative roles away from us, so the longer we can keep him in the game, the better imo - unless we start the day with a green on him -.

If you want to vote him out D3 that's fine, but I'm in a bit of a position in which I can't really help given the "link" people made with me. I can do some subtle shade, though.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Reki said:
What about Ephi for the NK? She's been a bit on the quiet side - maybe good role, maybe a Master? - and she'll probably go after either VA or HP, both of which wouldn't be good.

@Faddy could you please explain how does Terra fit in all this?
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I think I did copy Terra's power and they have targeted Pandora. Basically Terra is using his power to try get info on two players he is scum reading. I don't think he makes someone with an unknown power target his partner.

I don't think we need to worry about Terra right now. But I think Pandora should use the shot on VA. If VA actually had a claim that was worthwhile and interesting they would already have made it imo.
 
Pandora

Pandora

Reki said:
Wouldn't mind Random, although I thought he liked ATP and me so that could be a potential push if one of us dies, maybe?

Pandora, a VA flip means the vote totals of D1 and D2 are easier to read as he was the second wagon in both. He's a liability to town due to that; not knowing his alignment is detrimental to vote analysis and will be a talking point until his death. As such, he's also good to keep investigative roles away from us, so the longer we can keep him in the game, the better imo - unless we start the day with a green on him -.

If you want to vote him out D3 that's fine, but I'm in a bit of a position in which I can't really help given the "link" people made with me. I can do some subtle shade, though.
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i see, i don't really mind if we don't hit ephi then.
 
Pandora

Pandora

im curious why terra has eyes on me tho

Faddy said:
I think I did copy Terra's power and they have targeted Pandora. Basically Terra is using his power to try get info on two players he is scum reading. I don't think he makes someone with an unknown power target his partner.

I don't think we need to worry about Terra right now. But I think Pandora should use the shot on VA. If VA actually had a claim that was worthwhile and interesting they would already have made it imo.
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what would be the benefit of me using it on VA? Me possibly thinking he's town or something?
 
Reki

Reki

Btw do you want me to use the Roleblock? Was thinking of saving it for next night as I haven't really gotten a good sense of who has a strong PR yet.
 
Faddy

Faddy

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AllThingsPurple said:
Am I using my janitor role on hedin? I think hp was in favour but I'd rather get group consensus before doing anything
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I think you do it. I don't think yu are out the running. Might as well get use out of powers now.
 
Reki

Reki

Lol at everyone asking at once.

HP, if that extra shot is only for next night then no. Unless it affects the power Faddy stole too. But if anyone sees you visiting Faddy tonight that can be included in a claim later.

If Hedin is janitored and a Servant, would their partner saying "I know Hedin was X role for a fact." be modkillable?

Pandora cannot move, Ambulance already did.

Faddy, will you use that thing or rather steal something else? If you don't issue the shot tonight, it'll be lost.
 
Faddy

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Reki said:
Lol at everyone asking at once.

HP, if that extra shot is only for next night then no. Unless it affects the power Faddy stole too. But if anyone sees you visiting Faddy tonight that can be included in a claim later.

If Hedin is janitored and a Servant, would their partner saying "I know Hedin was X role for a fact." be modkillable?

Pandora cannot move, Ambulance already did.

Faddy, will you use that thing or rather steal something else? If you don't issue the shot tonight, it'll be lost.
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I don't think I will use the power.

I think it is negative utility to command someone if it works the same way that we have seen with Pandora. They get told who they are targeting and may refuse to do it. I don't think it is worth it when we don't know the powers.

I should probably steal again if I can.
 
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