Scum Thread The Interstice

[DCPAT]

Hopefully our delayed kill does something

 

[rac]

hopefully it takes apollo but i doubt it

 

[rac]

not to mention now apollo knows that scum didn't have the egg either because of the bp

 

[rac]

how likely is it that khan is doomed?
*splinter swapped with khan
*splinter switched with apollo

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Do we have reason to believe there is both a switcher AND a swapper?

I like the idea of Apollo doomed more but it’s possible

 

[rac]

no but would salva lie about giving the item to *splinter?

i think i need to stop thinking about this
but if someone is doomed its either khan or apollo

 

[Kalor]

We should probably just act assuming the worst case scenario of the doom not changing to someone else and be surprised when if it works.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Ok so salva, Apollo or a less active townie (like Kahn)

 

[rac]

how about turmoil?

 

[Kalor]

Turmoil might be a good choice. We need to find whoever killed Splinter and I think they're a good suspect.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Turmoil is a good one!

 

[Kalor]

Okay, this is the message I plan to send to Kaz. Is there anything I should change or add? I'm split on mentioning that we didn't kill Splinter but it might get town to focus on finding this possible third killer or get someone to reveal. Though that depends on Kaz revealing the message.


"Hi again. I'm sure you know now that I'm scum considering CoolestSpot posted my message. So I'm going to clear some stuff up entirely for the sake for fairness as we think we're in a pretty good position right now.

1. We didn't kill Splinter. I won't say what we did last night but that wasn't the outcome we expected.

2. There's only two of us left. We would have had a hidden partner to make 4 but someone else got them.

3. CoolestSpot claiming and taking over discussion yesterday was not part of the plan. Although it worked out.

Have a nice day. There aren't many left."

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Instead of “someone else got them” in regards to the hidden partner say “we were informed that our hidden partner is no longer available”

 

[Kalor]

Okay. That would probably be more in line with what we would actually be told.

 

[rac]

do you guys want me to do the kill command

 

[Kalor]

Sure. Anyone can do it really.

MESSAGE: SaucyKaz

"Hi again. I'm sure you know now that I'm scum considering CoolestSpot posted my message. So I'm going to clear some stuff up entirely for the sake for fairness as we think we're in a pretty good position right now.

1. We didn't kill Splinter. I won't say what we did last night but that wasn't the outcome we expected.

2. There's only two of us left. We would have had a hidden partner to make 4 but someone else got them.

3. CoolestSpot claiming and taking over discussion yesterday was not part of the plan. Although it worked out.

Have a nice day. There aren't many left."

 

[Kalor]

Forgot to amend it.

MESSAGE: SaucyKaz

Hi again. I'm sure you know now that I'm scum considering CoolestSpot posted my message. So I'm going to clear some stuff up entirely for the sake for fairness as we think we're in a pretty good position right now.

1. We didn't kill Splinter. I won't say what we did last night but that wasn't the outcome we expected.

2. There's only two of us left. We would have had a hidden partner to make 4 but we told that we were no longer able to.

3. CoolestSpot claiming and taking over discussion yesterday was not part of the plan. Although it worked out.

Have a nice day. There aren't many left."

 

[rac]

KILL: turmoil7

there's no command in my pm that is just kill, does this still work?

 

[Kalor]

Any of us should be able to kill even if the role doesn't specify it.

 

[ynnny]

Commands confirmed:
MESSAGE: SAUCYKAZ
KILL: TURMOIL7

 

[rac]

so i got the behelit boys

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So what does it do? Exactly... what kind of information was salva keeping from us?

 

[rac]

everythings been said about it

i cant make any role actions and no day/night actions will effect me
i have to pass it along tonight

 

[Kalor]

It's good that one of us finally got it just to confirm it did nothing else.

Turmoil was the right choice last night.

 

[rac]

so i don't know if im gonna mention anything about the egg

ill probably not give it back to apollo and hopefully he nks salva or something
when i wake up i'll probably lie about who i gave it to and maybe put some pressure on saucy?

 

[Kalor]

Mentioning it is difficult. Apollo might want you to reveal it but from a town perspective, it's better to say nothing since it could stop scum.

 

[rac]

yeah thats what im thinking hopefully someone waists an ability on me

 

[rac]

apollo probably thinks im scum so maybe they can track who i give it to
like say i announce i gave it to one of you and i end up being scum, whoever i give it to is scum

 

[Kalor]

I don't think any schemes like that will matter anyway. If we lynch town today, we can win at the start of day 7 if I get lynched tomorrow and get the double kill.

 

[Kalor]

If Turmoil tried to kill someone other than Splinter we could have won by the start of tomorrow.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Kalor,

So you are saying we should throw you under the bus tomorrow? Joking... joking...

I think it’s absolutely insane we haven’t seen a double kill night. Either the behelit has worked TOO well, or people are gunshy

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I kinda want to reveal my town role, i breadcrumbed the override night ability a few days ago. I can say I overrode a “kill” ability last night. It doesn’t tell me targets or what that ability does, but kill was straightforward enough that I felt it was a good idea.

It’s a “kinda want too” though.

 

[DCPAT]

You can give it to me. I don't have any abilities anyways

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Yeah give it to DCPat, since I have a day survivalist role.

We definitely want to keep it within us for the next few days

 

[DCPAT]

Rac is going to need a good reason to give me the egg tho.

 

[DCPAT]

Somebody please do the math; if we just blatantly try to lynch Benghis today, kill somebody next night, throw Kalor under the bus next day, and then make two kills the night after. Did we win?

In my calculations that makes it 6 players left, 3 of which are scum.

 

[Kalor]

I checked our win condition and we have to outnumber town. So 3 of us and 3 town wouldn't end the game.

 

[Kalor]

I just thought of an idea. What we do is give me the egg tonight. Say you gave it to someone else on our team and bus me tomorrow. The egg carrier can't be lynched so they'll be forced to save my lynch for Day 7, ensuring our win.

In the event that the lynch goes to the second most voted person when the egg carrier is lynched then we can make sure to account for that.

 

[rac]

yes but they wouldnt be able to lynch any of us

 

[rac]

egg carrier can be lynched

 

[Kalor]

Ah. That throws that idea out the window. I remember reading that in the thread but that must have been speculation.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

if I could use my Day ability with the egg it would be an easy give to me, but I don’t think that’s possible.

Rac, not trying to throw a bunch of shade your way. Trying to get posts and Kray wants to talk it out.

 

[rac]

i mean i made two meaty posts about it, dunno what more i could do to make him reply to me

 

[DCPAT]

I'm not sure we can win the 3-3 tie. So we shouldn't bus you yet Kalor.

We do have to makes sure that if you die it is because you are lynched. So Apollo really has to go.

 

[DCPAT]

We could give the egg to Kalor.

 

[Kalor]

It might be best to figure out the egg tonight. We should just pass it to whoever is trusted most by town.

 

[rac]

the only problem i see with passing one of you guys the egg is that it sets up a genuine thread

no matter what argument we use if one of us is found out the egg will be used to find the next

 

[DCPAT]

That is true. Then we should give it to Kalor, because a Kalor lynch can be beneficial at some point. Or you give it to a townie

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Did ohyeah and Kahn both just appeal to the entire scum team to vote with them against Brazil?

Should we ablige them?

 

[DCPAT]

We can try. I already put Brazil on my scum list.

 

[Kalor]

Brazil will probably end up being the easiest town lynch today anyway.

We've had no neutrals show up which is interesting. They might not exist in this game but if they do then we could win a lot earlier.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I’m fixing to drop a vote on you Rac, It’s based on my previous scum list and let’s me worry about who you throw the egg onto (because everyone else will be wondering that tomorrow).

I’m not going to follow up on it though with additional posts. Is this still ok?

I will login at end of day today to make sure I don’t need to survivalist myself out of trouble.

 

[rac]

yeah no worries

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Done, it’s nice that Kray has absolutely no reads on us.

 

[DCPAT]

I think you read that wrong. Kaz hasnt. Kray confirmed that.

 

[DCPAT]

Kalor, I think you should try to get the lynch against Brazil going. And then we'll bus you next day. Making it 3-3. We should kill Apollo, Kray and ohyea as our night kills

Leaving Rac, Pat, Zipped, Salva, Kaz and BK.

 

[DCPAT]

That's a winnable situation

 

[Kalor]

Brazil might end up being the pick today. Kaz could get lynched today as well which would really benefit us. I've been inconsistent with some of my reasoning today so that might help with getting a lynch against me tomorrow. At least Kray seems to suspect me more.

 

[DCPAT]

Kalor you can also point a finger to me? Kray is right I get totally ignored and it's not looking good on me.

I can also set something up if you want. We should be careful not to make it obvious...

 

[DCPAT]

I can maybe ask for it ingame

 

[Kalor]

Set what up?

 

[DCPAT]

Some shaky reasoning you can tackle and call me out on.

 

[rac]

one hour and its super quiet

i kinda feel at risk but i dont think you guys need to do anything crazy

 

[Kalor]

Some shaky reasoning you can tackle and call me out on.

We don't need to bother with that today. Maybe tomorrow.

This day end is weird. I'll vote for Brazil and see how that goes.

 

[Kalor]

Rac, you should probably just vote Brazil and cite self preservation. Maybe say that if you die then you can't control the item and it might go to scum.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Ties are good if we can swing it

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Be ready these last 15 minutes are going to be crazy

 

[rac]

whatever happens its been fun playing with you guys

i felt like today was my strongest day though, just dont do anything to crazy

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Rac I’m so sorry this is all my fault...

 

[rac]

no worries i had a weak day where i was caught out trying to justify not voting spot

 

[Kalor]

We should be fine. Although if Apollo hits any of us tonight we'll basically be done.

 

[rac]

good luck guys :)

 

[DCPAT]

We should really kill Kray.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

On the plus side, I think I’m being town read by just about everyone now

 

[Zippedpinhead]

We should really kill Kray.

Him or Apollo...

And Kaz is swapping at least one of them. Since Apollo had the rock last night I think he is going to swap him tonight, I say we kill Kray and hope for the best.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Always kill Kaz and eliminate the swapper yoo

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Three hours To go, what do you think?


I’m thinking Kray or Kaz. If I don’t hear back I’ll kill Kaz in two hours.

 

[DCPAT]

I'm strongly on Kray.

Kray is being helpful to town in his discussions. Plus onto a few of us.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Other two? Any thoughts?

 

[Kalor]

I think Kray works better. Kaz is still suspected by some people for some reason so we should keep them around.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Alright I’ll switch my vote let’s kill kray

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Kill: kray

 

[DCPAT]

Just to be sure

KILL: Kray

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Thanks DCPAT,

I missed the red tint when typing it, hopefully they still take it

 

[ynnny]

Commands received:
KILL: KRAY

 

[Kalor]

Be willing to lynch me today if it comes to that but I intend to fight it. I'm just not sure how yet.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So did we get lucky, or did he burn his BP the first two odd nights?

 

[Kalor]

Okay, I'm going to claim as a town aligned jack of all trades. Similar to how Salva is a parallel to my role as messenger, I'll claim to be the same for Rac.

Odd: Protect, roleblock
Even: Investigate, Bulletproof

Might swap the bulletproof for something else.

 

[Kalor]

I think he burned them.

 

[DCPAT]

Zipped. You gotta win us the game man.

 

[DCPAT]

Kalor, they gonna ask them how you used your powers.

 

[DCPAT]

I'm still going to claim commuter. Seems pretty safe.

 

[Kalor]

I'll probably used the suggested powers for Rac. Investigate Rac, block CS, heal Apollo.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Kaz or Apollo dies tonight. The other the next day. If you two go back to back I just have to red check you via voting. No worries.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

If our kill goes through tomorrow I am going to claim even night override. And say I get a list of powers and can override one of them.

No targets, no users just flat abilities.

If it doesn’t I’ll claim it as odd night override and I overrode a stealth kill.

 

[DCPAT]

Please approve as this is new for me: also afraid it's to close to Brazil claim and I know nothing of Berserk tbh. Below message will be my exact claim, also included the part between not wanting to tell odd or even.

I'm Schierke the Witch. An intelligent young woman, who is eager to learn, but also keeps her quiet and keeps to herself when she wants.

I'm town commuter. Twice this game (odd or even, don't want to make people wiser than they are) I can use my command to save myself from night actions.

 

[Kalor]

The thing that might bring suspicion with a commuter is that we already have two bulletproof people whose roles are dedicated to protecting themselves.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Yeah if Brazil is saying the truth it will be tough to have three of those roles.

Keep it simple.

 

[DCPAT]

Yea, but I can also say. Brazil is lying because I have one of those roles aswell and bulletproof is already gone. So he's lying

 

[DCPAT]

nvm lol. I can't use any protective roles anymore. Back to investigating I guess.