In the New City

lokiduck

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Two brothers that consider themselves the perfect specimens, you will defeat Yorha and make a beautiful brand new world for Machine kind!!!

You may post your Role PMs in here.

Additionally For this night and this night only you will have access to a special thread where you can meet with your enemies but also possible allies! This is your chance to talk in private, form possible alliances, or gather info that may lead to you crushing your enemies.

Please be careful in what you post in there as you may not be able to trust the one on the other side.

Also to conceal your identities you all will share a costume account!

Your account name: Yoko

Password:

The thread: https://www.outermafia.com/threads/741/
 
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Alright, hello brother.

Here is my role PM:

A newly made Android, you have plans to fulfill so you will smash in the face of anyone that gets in your way.

You are Eve and you are a 2 shot Strongman!
You are: An Android.

You are aligned with those out to make a new and better world(that is mafia).

You win when your faction makes up 50% of the remaining players.

On EVEN nights you can target a player using the command Smash: Player. The targeted player will die even if they are being protected by protection.

You have the power to vote!

I took the liberty of removing some of the information from the PM. In a game like this with seemingly many chats, a role that reads chat messages isn't out of the question. As a result, I think we should include as minimal information in each individual post is possible.
 
I posted in the gossip chat. I don't know how helpful the chat will end up being, I imagine there is another faction on the other side of their gossip account, either scum or maybe cult. I think only one of us should post using the gossip account to remain inconspicuous. My brother, you have a distinctive posting style and your role ability, which was told to me through my role PM even though I removed said information from my above post, inclines me to believe you should keep yourself more hidden. Thus, I am happy to take on the duties of posting in the gossip chat.
 
Jackass - Android - A lonewolf doing what you need to survive, you have gotten really good at killing. You are also just in general very good at survival in a shithole like this.
This is a character I really like from NieR A. She is multifaceted so there could be a lot of claims here. She's associated with killing, so she could be a vig. She's associated with explosives, so she could be a bomb or paranoid gun owner. She's associated with survival, so she could be a survivor. Finally, she's associated with drugs, so she could have some kind of role involving giving out drugs, like a fruit vendor, or of administering drugs. The drugs she gives out make androids crap out for a bit, so she could be a roleblocker that only works on androids.

Claiming vig can be risky, depends on if there is a double kill night, how many scum teams are in the game etc. Will depend more on what's going on in the game.
Claiming bomb is not bad. It would de-incentivize folks from voting you out. A town!bomb is a possibility in a bastard game.
Survivor is a good claim but it depends on how early in the game you claim. Too early and you'll get voted off anyway.
Fruit Vendor seems like a bad claim unless you're really under pressure.
Android only roleblocker seems like a smart role, I am getting a bit attached to that one. If we are forced to claim early, that one isn't terrible. "Why didn't you block anyone?" Well I didn't want to waste my limited shots on someone who might not be an android. Hmm I'll have to think on that one.
 
Anemone - Android - You are just one of the many androids living in this world that fulfills odd tasks while trying to survive against machines. You have a number of skills that help get the job done.
This character is a really good claim from a flavour perspective. Anemone is a super important character in the story, and she definitely should be town-aligned, judging by the sample role PM. She doesn't have any bang-on role abilities like other fake claims, but she's well-rounded enough that we could find something that fits. She has experience with killing, she's a scavenger, and she's also very caring. She's also a leader. Some kind of weaker protective role wouldn't be out of the question. She could also be a backup, as she's never really the first option in the story but she steps up when needed. However, knowing this is a LoVe game there is probably already a backup out there so claiming backup could be dangerous. I'll need to think on this one some more.
 
Operator 6O - Android - An Operator, you are bubbly, kind, and love talking to others about anything. You do your job as best you can and you feel you are very good at it!
One of my favourite characters in the game, 6O should obviously be some kind of messenger or gossip. A bit hard to fake, you'd have to claim to have messaged a dead player.
 
Some other fake claim ideas, the sample PM was 12H a vanilla townie. Other members of 12H's squad include 4B, 7E, 11B, and the squad leader, 1D. These would be good options for vanilla claims if necessary.
 
Another good fake claim is the Son Machine from the quest The Permanent Recluse. This would obviously be a commuter or a self-hider.
 
I think a good strategy will be to put some distance between us. You just do your thing and I'll try to avoid linking us together.
 
So in the special chat we were given, I claimed to be a singular person, and also a neutral survivor. The chat partner(s) claimed to have a machine based role about finding animals, seems like a flavour cop or dog sniffer type role. There is actually a character like that in NieR Automata, but I could see it being a fake claim. I can't say they believed me and I didn't really believe them either, but I offered a non-aggression pact based on our claims and they accepted. So if one of us want to use a claim that might hypothetically have the support of (an)other player(s), make sure to claim neutral and survivor as part of the role. Not saying we need to do this, but it might be useful. Keeps our options open. Allies can always come in handy.
 

Nomad Sparkster

This is some wild shit maynard
A perfect being with long hair and sexy glasses, you have big plans for the world. The only thing in your way is the annoying obstacles that refuse to stop interrupting those plans.

You are Adam and you are an Android Doctor!
You are: An Android.

You are aligned with those out to make a new and better world(that is mafia).

You win when your faction makes up 50% of the remaining players.

During the night use the command Protective Hack: player. The targeted player will be protected from killing actions. Sadly machines are too outdated to be protected by your abilities so you can only heal androids. You also can only successfully protect each android once. It’s basically a one time deal per Android.

So @Randomless Im a scum doctor?
 
Pretty sure you can just claim your exact abilities but with the name Anemone instead of your actual name and people would be scared to vote you out. I guess if you do that the other scum team or cult or whatever is in this game will gun for you though, so it's a balancing act.
 

Nomad Sparkster

This is some wild shit maynard
!player_list
[He/Him] Maolfunction|Maol UTC-7
[He/Him] EvilChameleon|EC UTC-4
[He/Him] TheChuggernaut|Chugg UTC-6
[He/Him] Randomless|Ran UTC-5
[He/Him] Anexanhune|Anex UTC-4
[She/Her] Hawthorn UTC-4
[He/Him] Funky Dude Sparks UTC-5
[She/Her] CheshireCat UTC-4
[She/Her] Sawneeks|Sneeks UTC-7
[He/Him] Stantastic|Stan UTC+12
[She/Her] Ephidel|Ephi UTC+1
[He/Him] c4e5g3d5|c4 UTC-5
[He/Him] NeonBorealis|Neon UTC-6
[He/Him] Neki UTC-7
[He/Him] EzekelRAGE UTC-6
[He/Him] HPSauce|HP UTC+1
[He/Him] jman1954goat|Jman UTC-7
[He/Him] FateShirou|Fate UTC-9
[Any] Sorian UTC-5
[He/Him] Lone_Prodigy|LP UTC-4

Lots of screwballs and wild cards in the player list as far im concerned

I genuinely wonder if there's any lovers roles for town

I feel sorian, zeke, maol, stan, saw hawthorn are the ones to watch for and maybe chuggsy ole boi

Probably should faction kill ephidel on n1 just to head off any late game heroics she may try
 

lokiduck

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I'll have you know I've read that PM multiple times (4 or 5 times)
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I figured.
 
I don't really know what the move is here. You can self-protect so you might want to do so tonight in case the other scum team/cult/evil neutrals/??? tries to gun for you. I don't think anyone will want to test your claim today by voting you out.

If there is a real doctor and they come forward you're probably screwed though and I will hard bus you in that case. Nothing personal.
 
@Nomad Sparkster you might want to self-protect tonight. That's gonna be up to you. If you get targeted by the other scum team and you self-protect which results in no kill, that'll be wicked good cover. On the other hand, I'm sure the other scum (or whomever has the odd night kill, I'm just using that as shorthand) also knows they aren't the only scum team so they might not be willing to test your claim right now. If they aren't going for you, I imagine they'd go for someone like Sneeks, Maol or Chuggs instead.

We don't have a night kill tonight so I'm just going to sit tight otherwise.
 
I will say, you should definitely protect someone tonight, so please remember to submit your command. I don't think you should bother protecting me. I don't think I'm a big target.
 
Okay I guess I'll do this.

Funky Dude Sparks: Protective Hack: TheChuggernaut

That's the only player that Sparks townread openly as far as I can see and he was among "top town" as far as loud voices go. It's a reasonable cover.

Sparks if you come online and want to change it to whatever, please do. I'm not trying to micromanage you, I just don't want you to waste it. I don't think other scum are gonna test you N1, they might think they can leave you alone and get a "mis-elim" during the day later, so now's your chance to buy some towniness points.
 

Verelios

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Okay I guess I'll do this.

Funky Dude Sparks: Protective Hack: TheChuggernaut

That's the only player that Sparks townread openly as far as I can see and he was among "top town" as far as loud voices go. It's a reasonable cover.

Sparks if you come online and want to change it to whatever, please do. I'm not trying to micromanage you, I just don't want you to waste it. I don't think other scum are gonna test you N1, they might think they can leave you alone and get a "mis-elim" during the day later, so now's your chance to buy some towniness points.
Command Received
 
Generally scum post their commands in the scum thread to make things easier on their teammates and the gamerunners.

LoVe, please just take whatever Sparks input as the command. Thanks
 

Nomad Sparkster

This is some wild shit maynard
There's an actual difference between town!chuggs and scum!chuggs

town!chuggs is easy going

scum!chuggs is agitated
 

Nomad Sparkster

This is some wild shit maynard
Also Im going to blow up this thread with my reads because if I keep it in my head it gets all fuzzy and fucked

zeke tunneling on chuggs almost seems performative
 
Yeah feel free to blow up the thread with your thoughts. I'm a bit busy right now so I can't really write out town/scum but I'll do so when I get a chance.
 

Nomad Sparkster

This is some wild shit maynard
OH SHIT I FORGOT TO SUBMIT THE KILL COMMAND because I thought it was even night scum team's turn

OH SHIT WHY DIDN'T I REALIZE THIS
 

heymonkey

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Doctor claim on the table for me is a major problem. It quadruples the chance I die quickly. I can potentially save myself once.

Findings:
Read the gossip thread. Hilarious to see the other costume trying to be Sparks. Hello, am Sparks-lite; you can't fool me.
Chuggs is very likely the person in the Taro costume.
Chuggs also theorized 2 & 2 for scum teams, which is what I assumed upon receipt of my PM.

So it's Chuggs + Chuggs' partner + Sorian as neutral (maybe) + a whole bunch of town.

Yeah, no problem.

Super easy. Barely an inconvenience.

:thisisfine:
 

heymonkey

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The other person I considered in the costume was Sneeks. Stan outlier. So if I aim in Chuggs-Sneeks-Stan and find the scummiest 2/3, I got this - if I can stay alive.

Reminder: downplay 2/2 scum; go with LP's numbers in thread, because it keeps fear stoked.

Now gonna read EoD1 with a laser focus on Chuggs. Sorry, Chuggs.
 

heymonkey

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there we go: liketown, population 1

If I can stop that many kills, there are probably extra kills, so I'm also looking for a vig and/or Sorian is lying. I do not think Sorian is the other mafia at this time, though.
 

heymonkey

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Re-read gossip chat. :< is a Sneekism for sure. I really get the feeling it's both of them. So much tonally skews that direction. And the other team I expect both posted in an attempt to help keep the facade going. It does shift and not in the same way Rando's does.

Okay. So for now the strat is to play like I'm hunting them.

Potentially could tell Sorian I basically gave him a vest. Oh. Maybe I could just claim it that way. Everyone wants to talk about Sparks' claim anyway.
 

heymonkey

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Okay. I didn't actually do more than skim my role PM at first because I figured it didn't matter much - my claim was in the air, so it's fine. But then I read closer and then loki clarified something, and all of this means that Sorian has to get voted out, but I'm gonna let him rb some people first.

"let" lol like I have control. WELL, I GUESS I HAVE TO HAVE THAT ATTITUDE!

If there really is a chat-reading role I'm super hosed anyway. Because I did not stick with the plan Rando laid out.
 

heymonkey

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Claim aside, I think Sparks did leave some town tells, and had a small distinct moment of potential distance from Rando, so I'll be well positioned there. Thanks! My survival is a problem, though, so I just really have to hope that when (please when, not if) extra kills fly, they go toward others in more sus positions. I need to identify the MOST town people and let the weaknesses for others flourish. My instinct is to give most of these people townreads (because they are lol) but I need to keep some of that to myself and just use what I find to identify the other scum.

yep
super easy
mmmhmmm
 

heymonkey

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If there are not extra kills, there probably ARE lovers. Possible that Chuggs and Sneeks could be lovers, so I'll look for other possible pairs. Early game sense is c4 and Maol, but that feels too easy.
 

heymonkey

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@lokiduck @Verelios my role PM specifies my fake claim is 9S. Rando said he had multiple potential fake claims, though, but I can't tell if he received them (from you two) or researched them and it was just a typo. Can I ask for clarification if what he posted were mod-delivered potential fakes? (I know y'all can't be TRUSTED lol but did you give them?)
 

heymonkey

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reminder to self: these are speculations. do not get locked in.

New list - People Who Gotta Go Lest They Find Me
Zeke
Hawthorn
Ephi
Neki
Stan
LP

Plus HP and Hedin possibly for reasons. And Sneeks and Chuggs.

Sorian, c4, and Maol are interesting. I need to look more into what they're all up to.

oh god i have no friends
i'm so alone

If Hedin and I brofist over a Chuggs vote, can I make him an ally?

Chuggs, why couldn't you just be more likely town so you could be my ally and not my enemy?
 

Verelios

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@lokiduck @Verelios my role PM specifies my fake claim is 9S. Rando said he had multiple potential fake claims, though, but I can't tell if he received them (from you two) or researched them and it was just a typo. Can I ask for clarification if what he posted were mod-delivered potential fakes? (I know y'all can't be TRUSTED lol but did you give them?)
Yep, we gave both of them fake claims. What he quoted were the fake claims.
 

lokiduck

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@lokiduck @Verelios my role PM specifies my fake claim is 9S. Rando said he had multiple potential fake claims, though, but I can't tell if he received them (from you two) or researched them and it was just a typo. Can I ask for clarification if what he posted were mod-delivered potential fakes? (I know y'all can't be TRUSTED lol but did you give them?)
Just to clarify, we gave you one fake claim of 9S because it fits your actual power pretty good, while Rando got several so he could pick the one that fits his fake power claim the best.

You do not have to claim 9S if you don't want and can borrow from his list as well, it's just in this case each scum got more specific fake claims than the general list we always give the whole team.
 

heymonkey

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Yeah, I just wanted to verify. It sounded like he had a couple (for that reason) - I just wanted to make sure I wasn't misreading, since I don't know the flavor and I have a feeling it's going to matter. I need all the facts I can get! thank you!
 

heymonkey

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I think I'll just use this as my notepad.

Gonna go re-read d2. Gotta try to get into the mindset of the game. I'm still feeling outside of it. So anex was killed with little fanfare. Randomless has just flipped.

Neon's pretyped - will re-read for content in a bit, but re: tone: very methodical. understand why some people may see it as performative but it seems just self-conscious to me. I need to resist the urge to defend it so maybe that's how I frame it: self-conscious. Keep the possibility open.

gottem responses to a scumflip:
c4
Zeke
Neon
Sneeks - 1438 - an interesting response, tonally. i can push this but at least one third of the game will say it's not a big deal. may not be worth it.
Stan pointed out the EC semi-claiming scum lol. 1458

EC just snarks about prewrittens.

who starts to speculate:
c4: tailor
Chuggs: 1443: two scum teams - yeah, he's the other. rip chuggs - follow up post worries him specifically re flip structure (he backpedals a little in 1450 but it it feels very like 'oh no did i say too much let me keep talking to misdirect' moments but i might be in BEC mode. Chuggs has no interest in third bullet spec.
Sneeks: sorta latches onto c4 (yes, she thought it; she doesn't agree, though) and only gives ???? to Chuggs - Chuggs responds. Are they not partners? Or was this purposeful cover?
Ephi works it out on the page - someone will say this is performative. should I let it happen or correct? hold for thought
Sorian: two scum teams immediately, which he says is awesome. this is NAI for him though - he's then more focused on himself and his thing, which does signal he's probably neutral. POTENTIALLY could be teamed with Chuggs - they would know it was safe for him to eat a rb - but chuggs and his team could also decide the rb was okay, without Sorian's input. 50/50 But Sorian's smug response to Hawthorn makes me think he's more of an AHA I FIGURED IT OUT moment here rather than someone who knew all along. Sorian also goes along with the third bullet speculation
Hawthorn's post is so town lol. She speculates the odd night powers are just redacted; no thought at all about two teams. much more focused on bastard aspect. that's a town reaction.
LP makes a joke to Chuggs about MGS. Not sure about this response. Put a pin in it, but probably town. For posting, maybe: I find 1479 really odd. See if it still sticks out later.
Hedin responds like Hawthorn. Town.
Zeke is just super town and needs to die.

inb4 all these are wrong, btw

Will probably have to sacrifice Hawthorn as a potential partner for Random. Maybe lean on Stan finding her performative.

Chuggs immediately goes "oh huh two scum teams" and picks right up with the same line he was pursuing. No change. No shift. He knew. - 1447

If Sneeks is not Chuggs' partner, who is partner?
 

heymonkey

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1528 makes it seem like Zeke very much does not want to be rbed n2.
have to see just how "on" Random he was.
 

heymonkey

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I wondered briefly if the other gossiper was actually town but with no breadcrumbs I've seen (might have missed but I tried) and no claim, that was scum on scum action.

Also no reason to assume the teams are even.
 

heymonkey

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Sorian misunderstands; him being neutral means I just don't care about him at all here. Sorry, Sorian.

I'm interested in letting that sit but surprised at the vehemence from Sneeks. They have a very weird dynamic. Maybe they really are just open partnering. I mean, we did it in MGS.
 

heymonkey

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Okay, I have some time, so let's dig into some with EoD-ish. 950ish

Neki's EC argument is towny to my eye but certainly contentious.

made it only to 1176 - pick up there if I lose that tab
 

heymonkey

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1236 - can't use it in thread, but I think that's Chuggs thinking anex was in the gossip chat. he related gossip chat to joat without thinking about the town joats we've had.
 

heymonkey

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I need to figure out who I can cast as potential partners for Random before I get pegged as a potential partner for Random lol.
 

heymonkey

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One kill per night, fair chance of save just based on what I have/Random had and surely there's something else... I could be here forever. Oh god. What happens if we kill off the whole other team? Is it then still just one kill every other night? There has to be extra killing power. And a watcher/tracker.

I'm never going to make it. No way. I can't possibly survive that long - roles will get me. Math will. So I need to pray for an explosion and I need to survive it.
 

heymonkey

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I would take $500 out of my paltry savings right now and hand it over if it meant I could read other scum chat lol.
Even if I'm wrong, that's gotta be a great read.
 

heymonkey

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Because I am alone, it's hard for me to remember that I'm not actually town. Ephi is a great kill for me - she's probably town and we flip Chuggs tomorrow.
But faux town me wants to screech that Ephi is a stupid kill. I will wait a little, though. I am "rereading Random," after all, and I have time now that Chuggs has dipped.
 

heymonkey

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HP is probably a vig. I super hope tho that he's NOT a vig and is instead just hoping there's a vig who can take all these answers and shoot. That would be awesome.
 

heymonkey

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Who engaged materially with Rando flip
Sneeks
Hedin
Zeke
Neki
Hawthorn
HP

Ephi, but... in really weird way.


Sneeks and Chuggs go right into analyzing who started the anex wagon (they did, materially) and not the scum flip.
 
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