Chuggernaut
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Welcome HPSauce and Hawthorn!
John Marston's Tent
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Hawthorn
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Hi HP! So excited to go on this journey with you. If I have to be town then at least I get to have a private thread on OM— that’s the best kind of town.
I am Abigail. I don’t know this game, because I’m terrible at video games so I don’t play most of them, so I don’t really know who she is.
I am Abigail. I don’t know this game, because I’m terrible at video games so I don’t play most of them, so I don’t really know who she is.
HPSauce
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John is a pretty significant character I think? In the first game he's the protagonist (but he dies at the end) and in the second one he's a major supporting character. I believe the second game is a prequel to the 1st one. I haven't actually played any of the games so I could be totally off with this lol.
Hawthorn
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That's what I gather from the wiki also. I'm thinking you're probably town -- Arthur's horse is town, so Arthur is probably town, and John and Arthur are friends/fellow gang members, says the wiki. Yes, this is my reasoning. Just to confirm though, are you town?
And do you have any cool protagonist powers beyond our chat? I do not.
I have watched a lot of Westerns, so I'm thinking I can get in on some of the jokes even not knowing the game XD
And do you have any cool protagonist powers beyond our chat? I do not.
I have watched a lot of Westerns, so I'm thinking I can get in on some of the jokes even not knowing the game XD
HPSauce
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I am town yes, I have nothing beyond the chat. I might just slip Woody quotes into my posts lol.
*there's a snake in my boot*
Hawthorn
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I’m also thinking, if it ever gets to the point where we have to claim, it should be as neighbors. Might be doubted on flavor grounds, but I’d rather not outright let mafia they can kill two in one go. Not planning to claim any time soon, just thinking ahead
HPSauce
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Sure I'm in favour of that
HPSauce
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I just added a cowboy hat to my normal avatar lol
Chuggernaut
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have you considered moving the United Kingdom further west
HPSauce
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No bulli
Hawthorn
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Yeah, I think Wiz and Terra are both likely town (though I’m way less lock town on terra than many are) so I don’t love how all the discussion is going to be about them & wiz possibly will be shot.
maybe it’s paranoia but I also feel like more weird stuff should be happening by now. This feels too normal for even a partly geno game
maybe it’s paranoia but I also feel like more weird stuff should be happening by now. This feels too normal for even a partly geno game
Hawthorn
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Do you suspect Ephi? I wasn't really following what you meant in your exchange with ATP.
I will probably switch to Faddy if he gets more votes, I really don't like Wizard as a D1 vote out. The only thing that stops me from doing it now is I'd be on a train with my scum read Mao, but whatever, it's just a light scum read.
I will probably switch to Faddy if he gets more votes, I really don't like Wizard as a D1 vote out. The only thing that stops me from doing it now is I'd be on a train with my scum read Mao, but whatever, it's just a light scum read.
HPSauce
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No not really, i just felt people were being too hasty in calling her town based on the posts she had made. I was probably being a bit unfair though.
I really don't know where I'm going to vote right now, I don't feel especially good about any of the wagons.
Hawthorn
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Agree with this, BTW -- I don't suspect her, but Ephi can absolutely put in that level of effort as scum, meaning it means nothing in terms of alignment.
Hawthorn
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About ATP, he definitely feels different than normal, in his kind of jokey shrugging off of criticism. I would say it's a little suspicious, actually, or at least I was thinking that towards the end of the day. What were you thinking?
Faddy's claim is either real or mafia, don't think vanilla town would come out with that kind of soft claim. On the other hand, we already lost one vanilla town to death and this is supposed to be a crazy bastard game -- probably most town remaining have something they could describe as "a power role". I'm trying to decide if he should be pushed to claim further or not. Always that balance of not wanting him to have to say if he's eg a cop or doctor, but not wanting to put him off the hook with such an easy statement. What do you think? I'm tentatively leaning towards pushing him to claim as scum surely already want to kill him if he is town anyway.
No worries about pressure on you tomorrow, feeling smug that I'm not the first of us to be on the chopping block XD. Why did you wait so late to vote though?
Faddy's claim is either real or mafia, don't think vanilla town would come out with that kind of soft claim. On the other hand, we already lost one vanilla town to death and this is supposed to be a crazy bastard game -- probably most town remaining have something they could describe as "a power role". I'm trying to decide if he should be pushed to claim further or not. Always that balance of not wanting him to have to say if he's eg a cop or doctor, but not wanting to put him off the hook with such an easy statement. What do you think? I'm tentatively leaning towards pushing him to claim as scum surely already want to kill him if he is town anyway.
No worries about pressure on you tomorrow, feeling smug that I'm not the first of us to be on the chopping block XD. Why did you wait so late to vote though?
HPSauce
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Misclicked there lol
ATP definitely feels off to me, he was way present than I'd normally expect and he doesn't really seem to be as combative as usual? He's probably my biggest scum read right now.
Faddy's claim is very weak. I'm honestly surprised there was no real push to get him to claim. I definitely agree that pushing him to claim is the right move.
As for the late vote. It is something I do tend to do. I don't like moving my vote around a lot. It's something I should probably be more open to doing really.
ATP definitely feels off to me, he was way present than I'd normally expect and he doesn't really seem to be as combative as usual? He's probably my biggest scum read right now.
Faddy's claim is very weak. I'm honestly surprised there was no real push to get him to claim. I definitely agree that pushing him to claim is the right move.
As for the late vote. It is something I do tend to do. I don't like moving my vote around a lot. It's something I should probably be more open to doing really.
Hawthorn
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That's reasonable, but we should both be aware that putting pressure on someone to claim is often seen as scummy, so it should be done carefully and with caveats.
I could totally see ATP as a good vote. Will try to read back through him, in addition to keeping up with my 7.
I don't like moving my vote around a lot either, but it's useful to have it firmly in place before the very end of day in my experience.
I could totally see ATP as a good vote. Will try to read back through him, in addition to keeping up with my 7.
I don't like moving my vote around a lot either, but it's useful to have it firmly in place before the very end of day in my experience.
Hawthorn
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Yeah I can see it.
I’m so busy this weekend, keep waiting to be called out for inactivity but so far I seem to have escaped it. I should be able to play more Sunday morning, but I’ll try to get in at least a few posts before that.
what’s your thought on the night actions? What’s really puzzling me is Sawneeks. Strong kills are usually limited shots. Why would someone use one on her n1, and isn’t it a big coincidence that it turned out to be necessary??
also, do you still suspect faddy? Feel like his claim fell by the wayside with all the new claims.
also changing my mind about wiz again maybe. Feels too easy
I’m so busy this weekend, keep waiting to be called out for inactivity but so far I seem to have escaped it. I should be able to play more Sunday morning, but I’ll try to get in at least a few posts before that.
what’s your thought on the night actions? What’s really puzzling me is Sawneeks. Strong kills are usually limited shots. Why would someone use one on her n1, and isn’t it a big coincidence that it turned out to be necessary??
also, do you still suspect faddy? Feel like his claim fell by the wayside with all the new claims.
also changing my mind about wiz again maybe. Feels too easy
HPSauce
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Yeah the Sneeks kill is really off. Something weird happened there for sure. It just makes zero sense for scum to strong kill her like that. I hope the cult isn't totally dead because that would suck for Chuggs.
Like it literally makes no sense. Unless scum just literally wanted two kills immediately? Or they picked up on a breadcrumb...IDK. its just very weird. Surely if you're gonna strong kill you'd go for a claimed "important" PR like Faddy?
Faddy has gotten off scot free so far. There's no attention on him whatsoever. Maybe the claim is true but I really feel the circumstances are very questionable.
Wiz I think is telling the truth.
Hawthorn
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It's not that I don't suspect Fanto, I just suspect Faddy way more. Weren't we expecting there to be more pressure on his claim today? I feel like there were no questions about it at all until recently. Staying where I am, but curious to hear more about what you think.
Hawthorn
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Pretty good excellent that we got mafia!! And the leader too.
though, it’s now my turn to apologize for likely being on the chopping block tomorrow, not that I think I deserve it. I still suspect faddy, tbh, but i definitely think I’ll be seen as defending Fanto
though, it’s now my turn to apologize for likely being on the chopping block tomorrow, not that I think I deserve it. I still suspect faddy, tbh, but i definitely think I’ll be seen as defending Fanto
Hawthorn
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Agree with all of this. I'm hoping claiming won't be necessary, but if we have to we have to. Maybe lovers would make more sense than neighbors in that context, but we can check in in here if it seems like it's going to be necessary.
HPSauce
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Faddy is interesting to me. I was all in in questioning him but the fact that he was the counter wagon does give me pause. I'll see how things develop.
As for Neki I just feel he's way too quiet. He's been very wishy washy so far and it concerns me. I'm used to him actually pushing people.
Hawthorn
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I definitely will be voting Faddy tomorrow— he’s mafia.
not sure if Fate was the worst possible choice though, at least his flip clears up some of the night actions puzzle, unlike the Vere shot that Faddy was teasing. Why do you say that? And what do you think about the tailor theory?
not sure if Fate was the worst possible choice though, at least his flip clears up some of the night actions puzzle, unlike the Vere shot that Faddy was teasing. Why do you say that? And what do you think about the tailor theory?
HPSauce
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Tailor theory is interesting, I don't really think there's enough evidence right now though.
Fate felt more obviously town to me than anyone else there. Like you say Faddy is almost certainly scum though. So I wouldn't be overly surprised if the rest of them are all town. I'm not a fan of Fate seemingly trying to get me night killed though lol.
Hawthorn
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Tailor theory is lunacy. You really think it’s worth considering? I still don’t understand, given that Veer’s comment about soup seems to have been posted after Kyan’s flip. What seems tailored? Where is this coming from?
good thing nobody tried to kill ATP n2 I guess!
good thing nobody tried to kill ATP n2 I guess!
HPSauce
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Honestly I think it was just a mistake from Chuggs that has been overreacted to. I don't think there's any real substance to it.
Hawthorn
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That was something, all right.
It's got to be Nuevo tomorrow. Maybe LP jailed Fate N1? Or mafia blocked him. Shots don't always get refunded. Or maybe Faddy's pm was tailored and that's why he was so alert to people mentioning a tailor XD
Either way, Nuevo's now been red-checked not once, but twice. Not often does that happen.
It's got to be Nuevo tomorrow. Maybe LP jailed Fate N1? Or mafia blocked him. Shots don't always get refunded. Or maybe Faddy's pm was tailored and that's why he was so alert to people mentioning a tailor XD
Either way, Nuevo's now been red-checked not once, but twice. Not often does that happen.
Hawthorn
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I am a bit thrown for a loop by Faddy flipping town though. To be honest, I did not expect that to happen at all. Do you think it's possible that nin is mafia? He did put himself at risk, but on the other hand he's set up a real chain of people to be killed before he would be at all suspected.
HPSauce
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Yeah it did cross my mind. Obvious something weird has happened. Either Nin is lying or something really weird happened with the switches and checks.
Hawthorn
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Where to go from here is the big question. It's good we got Nuevo, but I still feel like town is in danger. Hopefully the mafia team was relatively small from the start, with the gamerunners expecting that the cult would last longer. I no longer think it's multiball. Based on the starting size, and accounting for all the neutrals and the cult, I would say maybe a mafia team of 5? Meaning there are three still out there, with a total remaining of 13 players left alive. That should be ok -- if there's nothing sinister going on behind the scenes that makes the game state totally different than what we think it is, which is a big "if."
Of the 13 players left, I have to consider nin and Neki cleared. IMO Nuevo's flip also clears Melon -- she was listed in his pm as a neighbor. It's possible the gamerunners actually made a separate neighbor thread for two mafia teammates, which would be very deviously bastard, but I feel comfortable considering Melon town for now.
This also makes me confident in you, since I don't think there would be two sets of threads with mafia/town.
Wizard feels like he is really spiralling, and it feels to me like a town player doing it, not something mafia could/would fake.
Jman chilling and not reading the thread -- don't see him admitting to that as mafia. Maybe doing it in secret, but not owning up to it.
That leaves my PoE as:
Leo
Bojack Horseman
Verelios
weemadarthur
Kopite
Stantastic
I'd say that of that group I found Vere and Kopite the most suspicious overall, but Vere's claim is well thought out at least. I don't see him being teamed with Leo or weemad, after that recent argument.
Stan also needs looking into.
It's very likely we may die tonight. If not, how do you feel about going along with it if a mass claim is suggested? I know it will sign our death warrants, but I feel like it's possible it could help win the game. Maybe it's too early? What do you think?
Of the 13 players left, I have to consider nin and Neki cleared. IMO Nuevo's flip also clears Melon -- she was listed in his pm as a neighbor. It's possible the gamerunners actually made a separate neighbor thread for two mafia teammates, which would be very deviously bastard, but I feel comfortable considering Melon town for now.
This also makes me confident in you, since I don't think there would be two sets of threads with mafia/town.
Wizard feels like he is really spiralling, and it feels to me like a town player doing it, not something mafia could/would fake.
Jman chilling and not reading the thread -- don't see him admitting to that as mafia. Maybe doing it in secret, but not owning up to it.
That leaves my PoE as:
Leo
Bojack Horseman
Verelios
weemadarthur
Kopite
Stantastic
I'd say that of that group I found Vere and Kopite the most suspicious overall, but Vere's claim is well thought out at least. I don't see him being teamed with Leo or weemad, after that recent argument.
Stan also needs looking into.
It's very likely we may die tonight. If not, how do you feel about going along with it if a mass claim is suggested? I know it will sign our death warrants, but I feel like it's possible it could help win the game. Maybe it's too early? What do you think?
HPSauce
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Yeah I agree with you in regards to Neki, Nin and Melon. Putting two scum in a neighbour chat would be bizarre. As for you I do believe you are town. The only way I'd begin to doubt that is if we're still alive at endgame lol. I feel much the same on Wiz and Jman too. The way they're playing just doesn't feel like scum. They *could* be but I think it's very unlikely.
I agree on the remaining 6. I feel better about Wee and Leo than the rest. But all 6 need to be looked at pretty heavily.
If a mass claim happens we should go along with it. It'll almost certainly kill us but it helps town and that's the most important thing.
Hawthorn
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If it gets to the mass claim, I think we have to admit that we're lovers, not neighbors. There's already one neighbor pair out there and I don't want to take up time/space in the thread with pointless arguments over whether there could be two. Also, our characters are married, so mafia will pretty much guess anyway.
Hawthorn
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Let's do it. I feel like it's time -- we're at loose ends today and we're just going to keep going over the same things.
I'm going to be busy with work stuff for the next 1-2 hours, but it's ok with me if you claim before that, I'll confirm it when I check in.
I'm going to be busy with work stuff for the next 1-2 hours, but it's ok with me if you claim before that, I'll confirm it when I check in.
HPSauce
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I think Vere is town.
HPSauce
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I'm towny
Hawthorn
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Only towny, not town, friend?
HPSauce
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Yeah. I doubt it's all 3 of the vanilla claimants that would just be weird. Kopite maybe? Or a Godfather Neki?
HPSauce
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Zipped is possible I guess.
Hawthorn
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HP!!! What are you hinting at??
HPSauce
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I'm just memeing. I'm town