Scum Thread Cluedo Mafia Private chat

[Android Sophia]

Welcome, Mafia! You may have noticed the mention of weapons in your role PM, so I'd like to take a moment to explain how that works. Each night you'll need to decide which of the six weapons you'll use to kill with. Three of these weapons are standard, three of these weapons are functionally equivalent to a power role. They are:

• Candlestick - Standard kill. Can be used once.
• Lead Pipe - Standard Kill. Can be used twice.
• Spanner - Standard Kill. Can be used twice.
• Dagger - Ninja kill. Can be used once.
• Revolver - Strong Kill. Can be used once.
• Rope - Delayed Kill. Can be used once. The target will die at the end of the next day phase instead of during the night.

The town will not explicitly know which weapon does what, but each weapon will have a unique kill message associated with it, to give them a chance to identify the weapon and power. These messages are as follows:

• Candlestick - "<player> has died! A broken candlestick lay near <his/her> body...."
• Lead Pipe (1st use) - "<player> has died! There is a large, blunt wound to the back of <his/her> head..."
• Lead Pipe (2nd use) - "<player> has died! A bent lead pipe lays near <his/her> body..."
• Spanner (1st use) - "<player> has died! There is a small, blunt wound to the back of <his/her> head..."
• Spanner (2nd use) - "<player> has died! A spanner lay on the ground near <his/her> body..."
• Dagger - "<player> has died! A deep and bloody wound can be seen in <his/her> back..."
  
• Revolver - "<player> has died! They appear to have bled to death from a gunshot wound..."
• Rope - "<player> has died! <His/her> body was found hanging in the cellar..."

Besides that, you're free to quote your role PMs within this thread, but please do not edit your posts.

Good luck. :)

 

[RetroMG]

Your third team mate is still coming. I'll add her to the chat as soon as her OM account is made.

EDIT: All Scum players now have access to the Conservatory. You may commence plotting.

 

[Sawneeks]

lol

 

[RetroMG]

lol

Yeah, we thought so, too.

 

[Sawneeks]

Hey fellow Scum Friends. Since we're allowed to post our whole role PM:

You are Colonel Mustard, the military hunter. You are the one who commits the murders!

You are aligned with the Mafia. Your partners are Miss Peach and Mrs. Ho, AKA Fat4all and girlofgotham

Once per night, your faction may pick a target to kill. As long as you are alive, you or Mrs. Ho must submit the factional kill, and either of you must pick your weapon of choice to kill with. The weapons will be described in your private chatroom.

You may also vote during the day phase.

You win when your faction holds the majority at day start.

So it looks like as long as I am alive only myself and Gotham can submit the NK.

 

[Girlofgotham]

I am so excited

 

[Girlofgotham]

Here I am:

You are Mrs. Ho, the cook at Tudor Manor. You are the one who commits the murders!

You are aligned with the Mafia. Your partners are Miss Peach and Colonel Mustard, AKA Fat4All and Sawneeks

Once per night, your faction may pick a target to kill. As long as you are alive, you or Colonel Mustard must submit the factional kill, and either of you must pick your weapon of choice to kill with. The weapons will be described in your private chatroom.

You may also vote during the day phase.

You win when your faction holds the majority at day start.​

 

[Sawneeks]

Welcome, Gotham. This is your first time playing, right?

Interesting that we both are the only ones who can do the NK. I'm curious to know what Science Doggo is now. o:

 

[Girlofgotham]

I am brand brand new. Just a baby scum.

Yeah. This is v intriguing. I'll do my best not to screw up

 

[ynnny]

good luck :D

 

[Sawneeks]

Don't worry! Good thing about being Scum is you have us to help you out and we can collaborate in here. Being Scum for your first game is rough but I'm sure you'll do fine.

although you do have cabot helping you out....tell him i said he's the worst.

 

[Girlofgotham]

I'm looking forward to the challenge! Lol he says I'm in good hands with you

 

[Android Sophia]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention this in the OP, but fake claims are unneeded for this game.

 

[Fat4all]

 

[Fat4all]

You are Miss Peach. While you appear to be a stereotypical southern girl from the US, you are actually the mastermind behind the murders!

You are aligned with the Mafia. Your partners are Colonel Mustard and Mrs. Ho, AKA Sawneeks and girlofgotham

Once per night, your faction may pick a target to kill. You may not submit the factional kill as long as either of your partners are alive. If both partners have died, you must submit the factional kill, and you must pick your weapon of choice to kill with. The weapons will be described in your private chatroom.

You may also vote during the day phase.

You win when your faction holds the majority at day start.

So basically I can’t night kill unless both of you are already dead. Standard stuff.

 

[Fat4all]

My first mafia game I was scum and I had a whale of a time.

Just consider your posts, rethink them before submitting, don’t get flustered if someone votes for you or someone tries to start a vote train on you.

Talk logically, make your own deductions, and have fun.

 

[Girlofgotham]

Thank you! I'll be sure to keep all this in mind. I appreciate all the advice

 

[Sawneeks]

Ye, doggo has some great advice and he will probably be able to help you a bit more than I can lol. My advice usually boils down to 'play like your Town game' but since this is your first game....that kinda won't work here.

I agree that don't panic is the big one though. It can feel like Town sees through your lies but they are often incredibly lost and are not sure where to go. Humor them for a bit and they'll often move on.

 

[Sawneeks]

oh god that emoji is horrifying. can i please edit it out? please?

 

[Fat4all]

:rolleyes:

 

[Sawneeks]

also also side thought, but we have nothing other than kills on our Team which is interesting. :x

Since our special kills (Delayed/Strong/Ninja) aren't tied to any one person and considering how small this game is, do we want to use them at the start or save them for later? I have a feeling since our kills are named and Town gets hints as to what they are, there's going to be some sort of investigative mechanic in place to help them find us like the real Cluedo board game or else something similar. Hopefully we'll get more once Day 1 starts but its' worth thinking about.

 

[Sawneeks]

bad doggo, bad

no emojis

 

[Girlofgotham]

Do we maybe hold off first then? The tempting thing is that the pipe gives us 2 kills and I want to fire right in but I think patience might be a virtue here. Granted, the rope almost lets us skip a shot and then get a kill, am I reading that right?

 

[Sawneeks]

The candlestick, pipe, and spanner allow us to do one kill per weapon. It's just that we have 2 pipes/spanners so we can use a pipe once and then the following night use another pipe to make the NK, instead of the candlestick which we can only use once for a single kill. Which is kinda weird that they're broken down so specifically like that? That's why I'm thinking there might be something involving the weapons that we don't know about yet or else why give us 3 different names/weapons for normal NKs?

And yeah, you're right about the Rope. They wouldn't die immediately at the end of the Night Phase but it would be delayed until the start of the following Night Phase. So if we used the rope on someone Night 1, instead of dying at the start of Day 2 they would die at the start of Night 2.

 

[Fat4all]

We should be both cautious and unpredictable with our night kills.

We only have 8 night kills in total, and along with having a ‘strong’ night kill, that means town likely has 1-2 protective abilities.

Before deciding what weapon to use and on whom, we should feel out the first day period. See who likes talking a lot, see who presses people and whatnot.

Because our only ability is various Night Kills and we don’t have any divergence or trick abilities, we should be pretty proactive in day chat. Try and join/lead the conversation a little bit.

Also, don’t be afraid to push back against a fellow scum in day chat. If it seems like they are gonna get voted out, don’t be afraid to vote them out as well. If it comes to it, making yourself out to be Town-looking might mean pressing against another scum when their back is against a wall.

Other than all that, staying alive is pretty easy as long as your active. The major worry comes from possible Town Power Roles, like a cop or something.

 

[Fat4all]

fun times are a'happanan

 

[Girlofgotham]

lol I'm twirling my imaginary villain moustache already

 

[Fat4all]

you survived the first swipe from the Bear

good jorb

 

[Girlofgotham]

Thank you. Heart was in my throat the whole time.

I think my problem now isn't going to be hiding but picking people to throw under the bus. I get that that's the point of the game though and I'm going to have to vote someone or at least start questioning folk.

 

[Fat4all]

You can choose your own approach. but I personally like trying to find logical reasons to vote for people.

I don't usually come at them aggressively, but matter-of-factually.

Unfortunately, this takes me a lot of time to read and research the people I want to target, so I usually have to duck and weave until then.

You'll etch out your own style, I'm sure. Just try to keep an air of confidence.

 

[Girlofgotham]

Yeah I can't pull off aggressive. So I may have to put on my Sherlock Holmes hat and play at detective instead.

 

[Fat4all]

Just remember that you don;t have to go BIG with your claims, you can go small and build up little reasons over time to vote for someone.

That way if someone call on you asking for your reasoning, you can refer them to your line of smaller points against them.

If you keep your arguments reasonable, it'll be harder for people to dismiss them.

 

[Sawneeks]

so i kinda lied, I read a little bit of the thread.

it doesn't help that we're still in early Day 1 where there is no defined Town Leader or enough posts to falsely point at someone and claim they're scummy. I still think Day 1 as Scum is one of the hardest parts of the game since any little thing can be enough to lynch someone since there is so little information out there to hide behind.

Once the game gets rolling and we get some defined Talkers and people who influence discussion it gets a little easier since at that point you really just need to keep the spotlight away.

 

[Sawneeks]

I also don't know if this will help you or not, but I've found it's much more genuine and easier to just tell the truth rather than lying when playing Scum. I don't mean jump out there and claim Scum or your teammates, but if you find something genuinely suspicious then go with it and call it out. It's easier to back up the truth than to keep building on a lie and it does come across as genuine which usually leads people to believe you're Town.

 

[Sawneeks]

On a scale of 1 - 10 how crazy would you all think I was if I said I think Terra is a secret partner

supporting scientific evidence:

"Anywho, Sawneeks is still probably scum, but reading back a bit, I'd like to take my grizzly bear cousin up on his gambit and pressure LP if that's his typical game."

In relation to how many scummies: "There's definitely three. How do I know...uh...."

 

[Girlofgotham]

That was my thinking too. Happy to back that up and it'll look like I'm finally finding a backbone while I'm at it

 

[Girlofgotham]

I'm struggling with ways to find opportunities to start talking with purpose. Is it best to coordinate something or should I just be jumping in when I can?

I'm quite aware that there has been a lot of chat about coasting and I'm worried that it's going to seem like I'm doing that. So I kind of want to contribute in some way that would be helpful if possible.

 

[Sawneeks]

If you aren't 100% sure what to jump on you can coordinate here just to get your feet wet a little bit before diving in. I will say it's not easy right now because everyone is grasping at straws to get going, but once things start to go it'll hopefully get easier. :>

Don't worry too much about coasting yet. We're still barely 24 hours into Day 1 so there's still a while to go.

 

[Girlofgotham]

Excellent. Somewhat typically, a minute after I posted a "yelp!" post here, Fran called me out but then the Alexem stuff blew up so I somehow got ignored in amongst all that.

 

[Sawneeks]

You have a good response to Fran though, it's likely that + Alexem blowing up that turned his attention to someone else.

 

[Fat4all]

this claim is something we should consider

they are either baiting for the night kill because they think they are protected, or they are just a normal town looking to draw fire from other PR's

lets see how it plays out, but we might want to use our strong kill against them right away

they will only have the chance to give away one bulletproof vest, and we will guarantee they can;t be saved by themselves or a doctor

 

[Sawneeks]

Yeah, thinking about that too.

Going meta for a second, but I do know this game has been described as fairly normal with a twist so I highly doubt there is a BP/Vig combo role but there may be some partial truth in that statement. Wait and see seems like a good choice right now but I'd be willing to use a kill.

 

[Sawneeks]

HAVE A GOOD SLEEP DOGGO

you can do more science with cornucopias later

 

[Girlofgotham]

Is this bulletproof best thing likely?

 

[Sawneeks]

If think if he is telling a half-truth here, that's the more likely of the two since we DO have an item that lets us go through protections while we have no protections ourselves ( in the case of the Vig ).

Really I think it comes down to he's either lying to protect another PR, half-telling the truth, or is some sort of Veteran and is hoping for a shot tonight ( "My intentions are my own and it's up to scum to decide if they feel going 1 for 1 with a night kill is worth it." ).

 

[Sawneeks]

I also think it's worth keeping an eye on things, but Zook was the first one to suggest there being an investigation mechanic that would help ordinaries in the future. He may just be really on-point with a guess, but if he ends up right I wouldn't be opposed to NKing him as a potential PR.

 

[Fat4all]

I'm guessing half-truth as well.

My bet is they have bulletproof on themselves, and are trying to draw a NK to fail.

 

[Fat4all]

absolute 100% best case scenario right now is if town lynches Dev and it turns out they were a PR, lol

 

[Sawneeks]

Could you imagine if he was actually 100% telling the truth?

i'd have words with sophia ( ._.)

 

[Sawneeks]

Doggo that was a great catch on his vote. I didn't even realize it was still on AI despite his badgering of Rats. o:

 

[Fat4all]

I knew for a while, I was waiting for him to say Rats was scum one last time just to make sure they said it enough ;P

 

[Fat4all]

It's always a sad sight to see a town so thoroughly convinced someone is scum.

So convinced they would sacrifice themselves just for that flip.

 

[Sawneeks]

hmmm yes, so sad. so very very sad

 

[Sawneeks]

I'm waiting for Terra/Grizzly to show up and put some sense into Town but i've got multiple fingers crossed that doesn't happen.

 

[Fat4all]

oooohhh

OOOHOHOHOHHH

THIS DEV

THIS DEV MAKES ME FEEL LIKE THE DOG I AM I LOVE IT

JUST BALL ME UP IN THIS DEV POST AND LET ME SLEEP FOREVER

 

[Fat4all]

 

[Fat4all]

 

[Sawneeks]

hehehehehe, love you doggo <3

think I'll just let that sit for now instead of commenting more and let other's get in there. I'll be around for Day End tomorrow though but for now

nightnight~

 

[Fat4all]

same for me

ill be back an hour or so before the day ends

 

[Fat4all]

just so you know GirlofGotham, the end of the day period is arguably the most important part of the day as a scum

just being around towards the end of the day does so much for you “illusionary involvement”, or making it seem like you’re contributing useful info.

it’s also a way to talk yourself out of a potential lynch if your tongue is sharp enough.

the only thing you should try to avoid is swapping around your vote too much. no matter your reasoning, if you swap around your vote too many times it’s an easy way to draw unneeded attention to yourself. feel free to keep discussing things, tho.

town seems to look a bit more carefully at the conversations that happen towards the end of the day, so try to keep it consistent with whatever narrative you’re pursuing at the time.

 

[Girlofgotham]

Jeez a lot happened last night. Doing a whole load of reading and rereading. Will def be around for day end tonight.

This is insane

Also all those dog gifs just made my morning

 

[Girlofgotham]

Thank you. I'll pick someone and stick to it. Rereading like crazy right now to come up with some sensible reasoning

 

[Girlofgotham]

Just checking since I missed all of last night and so obviously wasn't seen as present - would I get away with a posting at all just now or does that have a chance of blowing up in my face?

I mean yesterday I did comment on the whole Deva mad claim thing so it would look like I'm just following up on that but he's already kind of doing the work for my by shit-stirring as much as he is

 

[Girlofgotham]

Damn, I'm going to post something. I've just properly reread everything and I'm way too quiet. Bloody hell, I'm terrible at this. Sorry folks

 

[Fat4all]

Nah, that’s a good comment. Before dipping more into the Dev vs. Rats debate, go ahead and let others get involved (unless you have something to point out no one else has yet)

See how the town play this.

 

[Sawneeks]

Nah, you're good. People doing 'catch up' posts is normal for Town or Scum so there's nothing crazy there, they would probably get worried if you skipped over what happened and acted like it didn't exist lol.

 

[Sawneeks]

think i'm just going to sit on Deva for the time being and be the new 'Bold and Brash Scumneeks'.

i'll probably have to move it to AI but that's fine too. :x

 

[Fat4all]

Oh, didn’t see you were also considering Alfred. Probably would of gone with Zooks instead, lol.

 

[Girlofgotham]

Damn I'm sorry. Should we be avoiding the people each other are voting for? Sorry Sawneeks. I know you had voted for Zooks first. I was just aiming for the person I could best pin some kind of reasoning on from things I'd said before.

 

[Fat4all]

Nah, you don’t have to actively think about that, I was just considering keeping Zooks and Alfred as close of a race as possible.

A tie leads to a No Lynch. Keeping the possibility open.

 

[Sawneeks]

Yeah, what Doggo said. It would be better if we kept our votes apart but it's not the end of the world lol.

Just go with the person you think is 'scummy' and don't try and force it.

 

[Fat4all]

Yeah, I’ve had games where nearly all the scum naturally land on the same person, and it worked out fine.

 

[Girlofgotham]

Awesome. I'll keep that in mind in the future

 

[Sawneeks]

Good thing is too given how much I've defended LP this game if I ever flip before he does that'll reflect poorly on him. :>

i think i might continue with that moving forward, just defending him here and there.

 

[Fat4all]

comeooooon PR

comeooooooooooon PR

luck be a doggy tonight

 

[Girlofgotham]

I've refreshed to the point that my phone is mad at me

 

[Sawneeks]

 

[Girlofgotham]

Hahaha yes!

 

[Girlofgotham]

No PR. Damn

 

[Sawneeks]

Damn, oh well.

I have to go run and do a couple things but in the meantime do we have any preferences for who we NK tonight and with what?

 

[Fat4all]

I saw the word ‘cop’ and my heart lept, lol

 

[Android Sophia]

I saw the word ‘cop’ and my heart lept, lol

 

[Girlofgotham]

I did reread it like 3 times to be sure

 

[Sawneeks]

I saw the word ‘cop’ and my heart lept, lol

on this note SOPHIA MESSAGED ME AND SAID WE LYNCHED A CORRUPT COP AND SAID TO CHECK THE FLIP AND I GOT REALLY EXCITED ONLY TO BE SLAPPED IN THE FACE

she's a cruel mod.

 

[Girlofgotham]

Lol. So harsh

 

[Fat4all]

Without a doubt I think there’s an investigative role of some kind, otherwise we wouldn’t be given a ninja kill.

I’d wager they will be watching to see if something happens to Dev.

 

[Girlofgotham]

I'm really wary of how a possible investigation mechanic may work if we NK. It is Cluedo after all.

 

[Fat4all]

I recommend we use a normal kill, one of the ones we can use twice.

If we use one of them first, it won’t leave the weapon behind, broken, meaning it would take them longer to guess that each weapon might have their own abilities.

 

[Girlofgotham]

Lol snap

 

[Girlofgotham]

Yeah. That seems sensible. I take it we don't go for Deva since that's what everyone is kind of expecting now?

 

[Fat4all]

I think good targets would be people who have been active and hunting day one.

Terra, fran, Muffin.

I think Alexem would be a decent, unexpected kill.

 

[Fat4all]

Yeah, I think there might be multiple eyes on Dev tonight. They are hotheaded as well, and can be used in day-chat to our advantage.

 

[Girlofgotham]

Fran asks a lot of questions and prompts a lot of people. Would be handy to nip that in the bud

 

[Fat4all]

I’m always up for keeping town around where there’s a good chance they could get themselves lynched, lol

 

[Girlofgotham]

Alexem has gotten flustered and fluffed stuff before so I don't mind hanging onto him a little longer although I do agree that it would be a good surprise. Especially after his clash with Terra

 

[Fat4all]

Well see what Saw thinks and mull over it a bit, maybe give it a night.

Either way, I think you should do the first kill tonight, Girlofgotham

Less expected direction of attack

 

[Girlofgotham]

Yeah. We've got time.

I'm happy to.

Plus let's be honest, I'm the least experienced so it's less of a loss if something does happen and I get rumbled.

 

[Fat4all]

One thing I’ve learned from playing as scum, Town PRs usually stay in the thick of things and keep helpful and active, but they usually aren’t the ones with the highest postcount, nor do they lead scum hunts most of the time.

They know to keep a PR safe they have to blend in slightly.

 

[Fat4all]

BTW, if it isn’t obvious, playing as scum is my favorite role in Mafia :3

I’ve done it a good bit, and each time it’s been a blast.

Keeps my energy levels high.

 

[Girlofgotham]

Lol I spent yesterday morning an absolute mess, panicking over things but I'm really enjoying this bit.