Gossip Thread - Night 3

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Chuggernaut

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Good shots btw. I know people were kind of giving you grief about that Fate kill, but that cleared that wagon up a lot and it made it real easy to spot the scum that was there
 

Donnie

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Ah cheers man lol i had no idea how to play the role haha I feel bad for taking Fate out of the game so early but it was an at minimum solid info flip and a good chance. Poor Ephi though, it just left her nothing
 

Chuggernaut

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Yeah for sure, not to mention a Fate push would make a lot of the people that are looking real town about now look a hell of a lot worse. I don't know if I would have bought us having both a doctor and a jailer either so glad that situation never came up lmfao.
 

Chuggernaut

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Anyway, I'm a bit worried about a deep wolf but most of my town reads have a pretty solid town tell to their name now so I'm not super stressed about it. Think we just need to make sure to kill the obvious targets first and avoid just going nuts with paranoia.
 

Chuggernaut

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Sparks, Zeke, you, HP, LP, and Jman should not be touched. Would probably throw Rover on that list with Geno clearly pushing him as a counter wagon.

So you're left with Wee, EC, Zbeat, Zipped, Neeks, Turms, and Kop

Would probably stay looking at the last four on that list.
 

Donnie

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Sparks, Zeke, you, HP, LP, and Jman should not be touched. Would probably throw Rover on that list with Geno clearly pushing him as a counter wagon.

So you're left with Wee, EC, Zbeat, Zipped, Neeks, Turms, and Kop

Would probably stay looking at the last four on that list.

Yeah Kop doesnt look good agaij at day end, just hanging around off wagon and out of the conversation.

I want to feel better about Sneeks, I was really close to shooting her instead last night but figured it was fair to go with what the group felt. She probably looks a bit better now on the Rover wagon D2? But that could have been the rally to get Rover going and its weird she didn't want to do Geno today.

Turms immediately full of wifom after my claim lol although I suppose the fact he wanted to change to Geno last minute on D2 looks a bit better now.

Zipped, Zbeat....honestly could be either lol. This team seems pretty dysfunctional tbh lol

Thought wee seemed totally fine today but worth keeping an eye.

Ec is the only one I'd give a pass for just being really EC lol think he's maybe breadcrumbing million dollar man or something like that too? He's posted some sort of roll the dice games gameshowy stuff a few times now
 

Donnie

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Yeah I think I have to begrudgingly accept for now that Rover is fine, just fully into his wifom lol
 

Donnie

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My B I wasn't around a lot of the day lol I knew I was gonna claim and I wanted to see everyone's reactions pre and post claim hah I was just sitting there watching the thread
 

Chuggernaut

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Yeah Kop doesnt look good agaij at day end, just hanging around off wagon and out of the conversation.

I want to feel better about Sneeks, I was really close to shooting her instead last night but figured it was fair to go with what the group felt. She probably looks a bit better now on the Rover wagon D2? But that could have been the rally to get Rover going and its weird she didn't want to do Geno today.

Turms immediately full of wifom after my claim lol although I suppose the fact he wanted to change to Geno last minute on D2 looks a bit better now.

Zipped, Zbeat....honestly could be either lol. This team seems pretty dysfunctional tbh lol

Thought wee seemed totally fine today but worth keeping an eye.

Ec is the only one I'd give a pass for just being really EC lol think he's maybe breadcrumbing million dollar man or something like that too? He's posted some sort of roll the dice games gameshowy stuff a few times now

Yeah Neeks is either scum or just insanely paranoid to the point where it’s making her look real bad. Her post read just super townie, but she has somehow just gone with the scummiest action every day. Didn’t really love her back and forth with LP either. I would go Kop before her still though.

I think there’s a decent chance Turms is town. I feel like his weird off wagon stuff feels more real than Kops and him going against Geno is points for sure. Would not go there first.

Honestly kind of starting to feel baddie Zipped here. I agree I feel like this team is a bit all over the place but I also think we’re in a way worse position if the people who peeling off Hedin didn’t do that, Fate didn’t die, and Sparks didn’t end up claiming for that team. Kind of lucked out being able to clear a bunch of people and I think it boxed in the scum team way earlier than they were expecting
 

Chuggernaut

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Oh also I want it to be known that in my night 1 gossip chat I told HP to be careful with Geno because that dude would absolutely bus lmfao
 

Donnie

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Hahahah brutal. Totally called Zook as well, this makes things even for duck tales lol.

Yo one thing I caught with Zipped, his mask fell a little when he said that thing about hindering the conversation. Seemed immediately anxious/passive aggressive at the thought that I was going to drop some info. I always find it really scummy when people react like that. That's a big point against him
 

Donnie

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I'll be heading to bed soon, I'm still dead from Forbidden Door lol but I'm going to do a thread read tomorrow then I'll drop back in here to see what's up
 

Donnie

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Doing a quick reread of Geno, Geno definitely wanted to chain kill Ephi into Rover on D2 or just go Rover, Rover has to be clean at this point. Not scum anyway.
 

Donnie

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LP was just all over sneeks last day phase god damn lol this is the most fired up I've saw LP
 

Chuggernaut

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Hahahah brutal. Totally called Zook as well, this makes things even for duck tales lol.

Yo one thing I caught with Zipped, his mask fell a little when he said that thing about hindering the conversation. Seemed immediately anxious/passive aggressive at the thought that I was going to drop some info. I always find it really scummy when people react like that. That's a big point against him

Yeah, that's a good point. He really wanted to know what you had before he did anything else.

Doing a quick reread of Geno, Geno definitely wanted to chain kill Ephi into Rover on D2 or just go Rover, Rover has to be clean at this point. Not scum anyway.

Yeah scum seemed to really want Rover dead. And while Ephi mentioned Zipped I had to drag a vote out of her by pointing out over and over that she mentioned him but didn't vote there which also makes me think Zipped might be the baddie there if there is another.
 

Donnie

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yo okay been working on ISOs, will drop what I can in here in case I'm the shot. Good news is both of us can't die so at least one of us can take what we said forward.
 

Donnie

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Geno readthrough. Didn't bother with quotes but if you pop up the iso you can follow my comments relatively easy. Tried to refer to us by name rather than you me so i can use it in the thread later if needed lol:

Opening run of posts says he believes Jman’s claim but spends some time winding him up; Rover interjects to ask Jman why he’s bothering to take the bait. Town reading Jman anyway but +1 for Jman, +1 for Rover in hindsight, no real reason to stick his nose in this if Geno is scum-mate.

Moves over to Zeke, decides to park his vote for the day there, shades Zeke for being lazy and accuses him of just wanting to chase Jman or sit on him for days. Town reading Zeke anyway but pretty obvious this was scum setting up somewhere else alongside the Hedin train. Ephi drops her vote on Hedin about 20 posts later

Randomly shades OJ, just a bit of a hey everyone don’t forget this slot, it’s so wacky it could be scum (opposite of my own logic on that slot)

Randomly wants everyone to think about Sparks (pretty sure he pushes Sparks again before day end) - town read on sparks anyway but +1 on sparks

Declares he isn’t going anywhere because HP and Hedin look TvT and doesn’t see the argument in either - reads like scum speaking from knowing alignments, pretty sure Sneeks joins the other side of this at some point alongside town Hedin - +1 for HP

Isn’t pleased that Hedin doesn’t fully claim, throws out Sparks name as a last minute train

That’s his day one. Basically parks on Zeke and stirs the pot all day. Scum are smart enough to mention their partners but this does read like Geno laid out by the pool just chilling and shittalking everyone that walks by.

Quick Zook read D1 doesn’t turn much other than Zook desperately trying not to commit to anything one way or another lol everything is maybe this but also maybe this - it stuck out like a sore thumb. Has some awkward interactions with Sneeks….:warioleery: also has a weird quirk where he quotes other but only tags Sneeks lol Sneeks questions lay up Zook’s vote on Zeke, the fact Geno went there too definitely seems like Scum had a plan day one to just spread out and chill, zero effort from Geno or Ephi for their their votes.

D2 Geno

Opened by angling on Zeke again

Wants to shade the Jman voters for not having votes on Jman an hour into the day lol Jman voters were town hedin, town ATP, 99% likely town Zeke, Rover, OJ, EC. There’s a good chance this is just townies and he wants Zeke; he ends up on Rover later, had already tried to throw OJ in the air last day so probably a + 1 to OJ there. Gets fucked up anyway because 5 minutes later Sparks claims after a single question from me lmao which demolishes his chance to chase Zeke for the day

Concerned about whether or not they’re neighbours or masons, not if the claim is bullshit or not - yeah, think it anyway but Zeke/Sparks claim is basically rock solid here

*can see the Ephidel theory*

Somewhere around now is when ATP mentions Zipped might have been setting up for a chain kill on Hedin and HP, we all discuss it, Geno doesn’t comment on this at all

States he’s 90% sure there’s 1 or 2 scum in Rover/Ephi/Zipped and 1 between you/me/ATP. Votes Rover later, the concession that there’s “1 at least” and “1 or 2” scum in the rover/Ephi/Zipped pack catches my eye. Could be conceding because there is in Ephi/Zipped, sets up for an Ephi to Rover chain later. +1 to Rover here, I think Geno is looking for a misfire if we get Ephi, this makes me raise my eyebrow that he’s setting up for two flips from Ephi/Zipped too to say I told you so and move over to Chuggs/Donnie/ATP.

Turm immediately calls Geno out for saying things are fine, says it pings his meta. Honestly thought this was some arbitrary meta at the time but this interaction is a +1 to Turm here, both for interjecting and being correct

Drops his very quiet bus on Ephi that Chuggs caught

Tries to fuel the fight with Zeke, wants to remind everyone Zeke isn’t confirmed

Wants to connect Ephi and Rover again, promises a case if he has time

Town reads Zipped and sets up criteria that he’s got a pass unless Ephi/Rover are town - reads like a set-up to justify not looking at Zipped -1

Posts a massive read on Rover to justify moving his vote - this is absolutely Geno putting his neck out to try and save Ephi. Makes it unlikely Rover is scum imo. Brings up Sneek’s case that Rover is scared of the vig :warioleery: Sneaks scaring me again lol

Basically just explains why they killed Nin - keep remembering that Nin had bad feelings about Sneeks lol

Wanted to go Donnie -> Chuggs = ATP on the Fate voters after questioning from HP. Really doesn’t like loud posters lol okay

Calls Turm a hypocrite for looking at a wagon he was on lol +1 to Turm again, didn’t look very good on Turm at the time but in hindsight it looks better, no real reason to be fucking around solving your partner when it’s not getting you townie points and Ephi is under serious fire
Doesn’t like Sparks voting Sneeks - Sneaks -1


Seems antsy about what Chuggs is keeping back then just disappears, doesn’t come back to respond to Chuggs call out at all

D3 just looks fucking awful lol

Immediately has the vibe of my team mate was eliminated and I’m next

Wants to look at Rover and Turm

Remembers he maybe just wants to have a look at Sneeks too - feels like throwing a partner’s name out tbh


Gets really anxious that Turm has decided it’s unlikely Rover and Ephi are scum together, specifically wants to know what Turm thinks what means for Zipped then (Turm unfortunately doesn’t answer, would have been interesting where this was going. Maybe trying to set up a gotcha on Turm if Turm says Zipped is town?

Has already read the room and dropped Rover as a push, suggests he’ll do a Turmoil analysis and *maybe Sneeks if he has the time*. These reads don’t happen, seems likely he gave up afterwards but again, makes Turm look good. Honestly think he’s just dragging Saw’s name around in case he flips

Claims

One last attempt to shade Chuggs while playing townie, similar tactic Ephi went for, town reading Chuggs but +1 anyway

Basically just loses his mind after the room decides he’s going up for the vote anyway. Shades me a bunch, “no town vig shoots twice” lol, throws Zekes name out, bunch of roles to be paranoid about, scum team numbers, none of it worth reading into, just lots of noise and salt
 

Chuggernaut

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yo okay been working on ISOs, will drop what I can in here in case I'm the shot. Good news is both of us can't die so at least one of us can take what we said forward.

Yeah that’s why I did ATP the other night too lol. Plus got to talk to everyone in my stable at least once. I was kind of avoiding doing ISO’s because I’m being lazy, but we have like 2 days until day start so might as well
 

Chuggernaut

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Oh just so you’re not doing this work for nothing. @Fanto I know there’s rule sometimes about copy post from a chat. Could a person make a post in this chat and then use the same post in the game thread. I assume we would not be able to use the others exact post
 

Donnie

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haha didn't think of that. I could rework the wording if needed/make sure it's not a copy and paste. Probably need to add quotes anyway
 

Chuggernaut

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Yeah that’s fair. After reading that all, I think you’re dead on about Turms. He spent like all of day 2 focused on his partner if he’s scum and I guess this could be a bus because know one was going there today but I don’t know why you go out there pushing your partner when another one of your scum buddies looks like they’re about to be picked off
 

Donnie

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Yeayh honestly Turm and Rover feel like Geno's fall backs through a lot of that, it just doesn't have the waft of a bus at all and I say that having rubbed up against Turm all game lol he gets a big boost out of this I think
 

Donnie

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Did an Ephi ISO; I'll just post my takeaway right now lol honestly Day one is almost entirely shading Hedin or just asking people questions to get them to argue/feel worse about each other lol tons of posts that amount to hey what if you argue with x. Only ever mentions Zook once, never mentions Geno. Brings up EC a good few times in ways that are difficult to parse what the intent is, maybe looking for an easy miselim. Would be surprised if partners. Rover gets a bit of a boost on an Ephi read, she redirects folks to look at him quite a bit on D1. She's concerned with HP a lot but her arguments read a lot like "I know HP's alignment and I can weaponise that against Hedin" and a pocket attempt to get him to look at the other Fate voters, rather than a partner tell. Very wishy washy with Sneeks, both in questioning her and when questioned about her. Might be tunneling at this point, but don't like that lol. Scum really wanted to look at the Fate train, Geno doesn't try to pocket HP the same way as Ephi, but they generally seemed more focused on talking about me/you/ATP. The vote on Zipped on Day 2 looks like it only happens because she's forced to and is going to look really off if she doesn't. She basically wants to look elsewhere or vote Rover. Interesting.
 

Donnie

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Already know I won't like a reread on Kop, Sneeks or Zipped. Those are my top candidates right now. Kop just for generally wandering around in the background, Sneeks and Zipped both look actively sus at times and come up in strange off ways between Ephi and Geno's movements. Would need to reassess if somehow all of those flipped town. LP looks good anyway, but if Sneeks is scum he looks fantastic, he really chased her during all the other nonsense yesterday.
 

Donnie

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Town: Sparks, Zeke, Jman, Chuggs, HP, LP

Town lite: Wee (that spot deserves to be monitored for obvious reasons but it does seem fine right for now) Turm and Rover at this point now too tbh, I wrote a bunch about them but that Geno flip does them wonders

EC, Z-Beat just being unreadable but also not really doing anything danger if they are scum lol

Zipped, Neeks and Kop at the bottom. Could see Kop just being really unfortunate with how he's choose to spend his time this game but PoE puts him in there, the others I'm getting bad feeling on. Maybe the only thing about Sneeks is she's right beside Geno on Rover but doublechecking and the votes come hours apart. Sneeks flip probably makes Kop look better since she just wanted to sit off wagon on Kop while Geno was being run over
 

Chuggernaut

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I feel like it can’t be this easy but it does feel like we need to just focus in on Neeks, Kop, and Zipped here. If we’re still missing one spread out to EC, Z-Beat, and Wee
 

Donnie

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Lol damnit I wrote all that stuff earlier because I thought this chat closed in an hour :cor:
 

Donnie

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I feel like it can’t be this easy but it does feel like we need to just focus in on Neeks, Kop, and Zipped here. If we’re still missing one spread out to EC, Z-Beat, and Wee

Yeah I agree with that. If its someone beyond that rip. I hope I'm dead by then so I don't have to make the call lmao
 

Chuggernaut

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But yeah I feel like we’ll both be dead before it gets down to that. But I think we got this. Just have to stay the course and stick with what’s working
 

Donnie

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Remember Donnie if something happens to one of us tonight

it’s always darkest just before the Don

:donnieeyes: if I die, I'll be happy enough I helped towards getting scum lol that's enough, im basically just a vanilla now. If it's not the obvious people this game could turn into a long drag lol

Looking over pre and post claim on D3, Zipped and Turm are the only two who take a chance to unvote. Turm seems interested in solving after his unvote. He bounces around some ideas , basically consistent with the rest of his play in this game, doesn't make a push towards anyone else, stays focused on Geno.

Zipped immediately takes the opportunity to unvote, vote Sneeks who he hasn't push or particularly made a case on. Dude has played all of his votes so aggressively certain with no cases to back them up.
 

Chuggernaut

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Yeah I very much agree. Like comparing Geno’s bus vote to when he thought he was under the radar to how Turms went after Geno is night and day. I really don’t think Turms is bussing while Zipped gives off the same no explanation energy Geno was going for until he had to make an actual push
 

Donnie

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How many do you think there are? Ducktales was a 22 person game so one more and they had a 4 person team plus 1 neutrals iirc? There was actually a point you mentioned there probably being 4 on day two and Geno immediately got antsy and asked how could you know that lol

Question, why did you say "for the other two", just guessing the enemy team is 4 members instead of say, 5 which makes more sense to me. Unless you know something we don't.

Wants folks to think five. Although he makes a big point to say 4 during his saltstream at the end lol not sure I want to try and read anything from that lol but still interesting the way he reacted on day 2
 

Chuggernaut

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How many do you think there are? Ducktales was a 22 person game so one more and they had a 4 person team plus 1 neutrals iirc? There was actually a point you mentioned there probably being 4 on day two and Geno immediately got antsy and asked how could you know that lol



Wants folks to think five. Although he makes a big point to say 4 during his saltstream at the end lol not sure I want to try and read anything from that lol but still interesting the way he reacted on day 2

I kind of wonder if he was neutral hunting? but I wouldn't read too much into the open wolf stuff. All of that stuff is worth ignoring
 

Fanto

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Oh just so you’re not doing this work for nothing. @Fanto I know there’s rule sometimes about copy post from a chat. Could a person make a post in this chat and then use the same post in the game thread. I assume we would not be able to use the others exact post
As long as it's not an exact copy/paste job, it's fine.
 

Donnie

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Yo haven't had much more time lol have been enjoying the actual down time haha

A good thing about a Kop read is it only takes ten minutes lol

Believe Jman is town but would vote him in favour of not much else going on and it's a waste of times

Declares hedoesn't like the Hedin wagon but gives Zeke , Rover, Jman a pass. Votes HP and announces he's done for the day lol

First post on D2 is what Nin was a weird kill - I have a bit of an off view on this since I did the Fate kill but not sure why he assumes Nin was the NK with no consideration - was it that obvious lol?

Wants to dig into the masons claim, particularly seems more open to Zeke being scummy than Sparks

some wifom about testing HP, doesn't seem to really care if it's done

Wants to look at Chuggs, Zipped, HP

Gets some pressure from Sneeks about HP vote on D1 (Sneeks also voted there), also responds to Sneeks calling him out for questioning ke & Sparks but not listing them as who he's interested in - this doesn't really smell of partners, I probably think right now clearing one would clear the other. I've had the impressionthey are really disagreeing in their interactions

- tells me he doesn't have any reads because "he can't remember much" , I honestly had no idea what to think about thing lmao like it seems weasely but it's also super barefaced. I don't know how nothing would be sticking out tohim at that point but idk

-after more pressure thinks Zeke,Sparks Jman, Donnie are town , thinks Sneeks pushing him is more towny than scummy. Votes Zipped although this is weird because he later comes a few posts later and says it was a mistake and meant Turm - so not actually someone from he previous "to look at". Reasoning for voting Turm is....for my own reasoning for being sus on Turm lol don't really like that, doesn't make a case of his own at all
D3

- Gets pressure out the gate from Sneeks, adds it's because Turm voted for him after Sneeks pushes on previous day's voting

- wants Sneeksto talk about the fact her top scum reads are voting each other. Not sure what I take from this line of argument at all really lol says he doesn't remember anything about Ephi

That's basically it for Kop. Kop basically doesn't push on anyone at all and when he votes, generally uses other's cases. Kop isn't just quiet, he seems really checked out lol or playing checked out. Idk about Kop. This would be a classic scum play but also a classic miselim really. Looking for reasons to town read him would be that he generally seems candid in saying he doesn't read things etc, I think scum would be anxious about saying that out loud but idk.
 

Donnie

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At very least what I take from Kop read is that Sneeks and Kop aren't teamed, a flip on one would make me think the other isn't the same alignment. It just doesn'treally have that waft Can't really say that for Zipped and Sneeks where I think both could be scum lol
 
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