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heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
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Medium as a role traditionally talks to dead players, i.e. spec. That's what a "medium" is, after all. Without commenting on this game, PMs, or anything else, all information points to spec, but folks have different experiences/backgrounds/assumptions. But from general use of the role and the meaning of "medium," I don't know how folks to get to anything but spec myself.

eta: sorry, I think we cross-posted but again, I'm just speaking about the role as it exists on sites that list mafia roles, etc. the way various communities do it is a different thing and worth discussing but we can save it all for later
 
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weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
I once had a role where i was told spec would answer and the gamerunner either acknowledged to me or wrote specifically in the PM that spec wouldn’t get spoilers while I was alive. But it may have had a custom name.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
Its true I got super frustrated. I'm definitely taking a break, getting a cool ability and never being able to use it was so deflating

Governor is a fun and scary role., fun if you pull it off right and scary if you screw it up. I felt for you when you got it taken away from you.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
Now the question is does Geno kill Sorian and ensure than Sorian never voted for scum or does he give him a chance? I think Wiz will want Geno tomorrow but I'm not sure how much drive he'll get.
 
Now the question is does Geno kill Sorian and ensure than Sorian never voted for scum or does he give him a chance? I think Wiz will want Geno tomorrow but I'm not sure how much drive he'll get.

Yeah this is really interesting to me. I wonder how Geno navigates this, Wiz definitely was the only one who had the right idea that maybe there isnt a neutral so I would just take him out and leave Sorian alive and hope he whiffs again
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
Catching up on spec and the most shocking thing is there actually is a mcdonalds lore expert. Damn did not see that coming
When I suggested actions to go with the happy meals, I intentionally mixed up which ones would be good and bad based on the possibility of whoever rolled Mackey reading Cap's mascot review thread and going by his preferences. There are some that I intended to be guessable, like Birdie (as Cap can't stand her), but others are supposed to be the opposite of what might be expected.
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
kill's gonna be between Wizard or Sorian

next mislynch is gonna be melon I think

If I were Geno I'd kill Sorian to reduce the Town points on the field, then if Wiz goes after me I'd lean into the Neutrality and j'accuse Wiz of tunnel vision, guilt him into pursuing melon
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
or he could kill Wizard; Day opens, Sorian steps up, Geno leans even further into the Neutrality

If they ponder why Wizard was killed and try to pin that on Geno bc Wizard was tunnelling Geno, Geno could handwave that away saying "scum killed Wizard specifically to make me look more sus"
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
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Request to add this as an OM custom emoji
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Catching up on spec and the most shocking thing is there actually is a mcdonalds lore expert. Damn did not see that coming
I mean they based on OM members :D

The only issue is Coppa found out so you can expect a McDonald's lecture soon :laughing:
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
Spec, the night kill is determined by which player is mentioned the most.

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Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
Yeah, things could get McSpicy.
Your Happy Meal contains a Hamburglar toy! He’s a rascal, no doubt, but his heart’s in the right place. In exchange for a tasty hamburger, he’s even given up his ill-gotten swag – an extra vote. (How could he have mistaken that for a hamburger, robble robble?)

You may cast a double vote during the next day phase by using the command DOUBLE: Player.

Remember – this will apply for the next day only. In the following day phase, you will return to voting normally unless you are told otherwise.
Given the timing, this is going to depend on there being no kill today so that it kicks in during the next phase. But if Geno gets his hands on it...
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
When I suggested actions to go with the happy meals, I intentionally mixed up which ones would be good and bad based on the possibility of whoever rolled Mackey reading Cap's mascot review thread and going by his preferences. There are some that I intended to be guessable, like Birdie (as Cap can't stand her), but others are supposed to be the opposite of what might be expected.

Nu uh, cap ain't letting a role based on him go through review holding a positive Birdie effect.

At least Ephi knows Cap's meta.
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Sorry last thing, remember Donnie thinking his role ruled out neutrals? His PM is pretty clear:



It could say if the player is non-town but it says scum explicitly. Add that to the weirdness of Fate's vanilla power explicitly stating the target becomes vanilla town and just ask does there *have* to be a neutral in the game. And if there doesn't, how does that change your perception of Geno?



It's made everything nonsense and now remembering Donnie role it doesn't clarify what happens if he hits neutral as Wiz pointed out.


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(Let's go town you can do this!)
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Literally nobody wanted to even consider Sorian was scum even though he was lying about everything. Me losing the shot honestly had me check out of the game. I would have busted a cap in him immediately on day 4.
And now that I’m dead, I literally never lied lmao
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
So really only 4 scum and nothing else? And spec had some of the night kills? Or was that bs? I only read this page.

Not sure I dig the medium tbh but 24 hours or something
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
This is omniscient dead me speaking, but if I was still alive at this point I'd be gunning for Geno solely for the fact that Hedin's Power is NOT officially red-text in public; Geno's entire armour is claiming Neutral off Hedin's """""""result"""""""", and if I didn't that see that shit red in the game-thread then I'm not trusting that as confirmation of anything at all

Although I'd probably be wildly still j'accusing melon of being scum!Messenger and might be misled to vote against her

And I'd also be thinking Ephi as "the Neutral" against Geno, but... considering that Geno's being leaning into the Neutrality, whilst Ephi isn't counter-claiming him at all; I think I'd conclude that Ephi is Town, just a wild custom requirement-based Power akin to nin's (nin's ping-activated thing, Ephi's betting)

About Wizard at this point; he keeps sending out items, if I thought he was "the Neutral" with a Win condition basd off gift-giving, it's the same thought-conflict as with Ephi's case: Why didn't u counter-claim Geno yet? That alone eliminates that possibility 'cause if you were the real Neut and someone was infringing on your copyright, that's free Town cred right there. But neither Ephi nor Wiz, who seem like Neutral Roles, aren't taking it... so they gotta both be Town.

Thinking about a scum-aligned Wiz instead? Then that'd be Wizard's scum!gift-giver vs. Geno's Neutral Thief/Survivor (who iirc said they have to Survive with Wiz...? yet he's saying Wiz is scum??). How could you be such a Mafia-aligned Neutral? Doesn't make sense beside each other.
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Yeah honestly well done to everyone there, kind of astonished Geno made it so far considering the position he was in and the cards dealt, he made sure it wasn't a sure thing until the very end. And congrats to the town players who kept a level head and worked through things slowly and methodically. Great stuff :)
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
So really only 4 scum and nothing else? And spec had some of the night kills? Or was that bs? I only read this page.

Not sure I dig the medium tbh but 24 hours or something
Hedin misunderstood his role PM and thought his answers were canon. They were not. Just fanfic.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
first time my side won in this game! can't say i helped a ton but i'll take it
Fwiw, I think you played great and it was necessary to question me the way you did on the last day. I wouldn’t feel discouraged just because no one was looking at that angle. It was a good town tell for you too, the only issue was that damn two scum must be left thing
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
Wondering about Wiz's last happy meals? Well, here they are:

Your Happy Meal contains a toy of The Captain! Formerly known as ‘Captain Crook’, he mostly plunders the occasional Filet O’ Fish… but since you don’t have one of those, he's plundered your vote instead. Avast that scurvy dog!

You cannot vote during the next day phase. Please do not attempt to test this by casting a vote, as that will result in a formal warning.

Remember – this will only apply for the next day phase. You may vote as normal again during subsequent day phases unless told otherwise.

Your Happy Meal contains a Phil A. O. Fish toy! He existed, apparently – enjoy!

This item does nothing, so play continues for you as normal.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
No interaction if the person had the Phil a o fish and then got the captain the next day?

Flavor fail
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
i dunno about here, but its on the discord now
Not to be “no fun allowed,” but things like this COULD be interpreted as commentary on a game in process so I suggest waiting until post-game to make additions like this in the future, no matter how funny, and this one is very funny

Eta: it doesn’t matter now but just in general!
 

CaptainNuevo

MDTLA Enthusiast
Staff member
Hey @darkside I just wanted to lyk I'm considered a foremost expert on the McDonaldLand ad campaign lore. I've given an hour+ long presentation on it multiple times, and actually have it saved as a pdf in my google drive, if you ever want to learn more lmk. Alternatively, you can find some of my writings on it in the Vault section of resetera dot com's website, or at this link: https://www.resetera.com/threads/announcing-the-mcdonalds-mascot-tier-list.379635/
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
I guess I should have made it more clear Melon but you could have sent regular messages besides the quote, the require was just that a quote had to be in the message lol. I'll make the pm more clear in the future.
 
Ngl, either have the time to play or replace out. Complaining about it AND pushing other players to do something is just bad behavior! We shouldn try go avoid it in the future.
I thought replacing out and putting someone in my position there would be a bit cruel, that said I had limited options with how much it was stacked agaisnt me and I had to make a choice, if I let town discuss this for 48h every time they eventually just get it right, that said yeah never again, unless flavor really interests me I'm done playing until masters ends(maybe 1 game in the summer break though)
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
I thought replacing out and putting someone in my position there would be a bit cruel, that said I had limited options with how much it was stacked agaisnt me and I had to make a choice, if I let town discuss this for 48h every time they eventually just get it right, that said yeah never again, unless flavor really interests me I'm done playing until masters ends(maybe 1 game in the summer break though)
Well at least now you can say you made it to end game in a loki game :D
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I guess I should have made it more clear Melon but you could have sent regular messages besides the quote, the require was just that a quote had to be in the message lol. I'll make the pm more clear in the future.
I knew. I just could never think of what to say and felt the quotes spoke better for me.
 

The Wizard

Confidently Incorrect
Hey @darkside I just wanted to lyk I'm considered a foremost expert on the McDonaldLand ad campaign lore. I've given an hour+ long presentation on it multiple times, and actually have it saved as a pdf in my google drive, if you ever want to learn more lmk. Alternatively, you can find some of my writings on it in the Vault section of resetera dot com's website, or at this link: https://www.resetera.com/threads/announcing-the-mcdonalds-mascot-tier-list.379635/
Oof I could have used access to the tier list during the game. Although maybe it's for the best or Hawthorn might have gotten a better toy.
Sorry again to darkside, that was some bad luck with your charged up ability :(
the only issue is he also added bastard be damned. I argue the role isn’t bastard at all as all I did was not tell him the source of the answer. I didn’t lie and say “I will answer these” when it’s spec or vice versa, so it’s on everyone and Hedin for assuming it was me answering.
Sorry loki, no offence intended - I meant that I bought into the theory of answers from spec and didn't agree with the bastard complexity counter argument. Wasn't any comment on the game complexity or modding :)
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
@Geno very well played. I hope the comic did not get too far. You played very very well and you also used every dirty there was. Like a true scum. Can’t wait go play with or against you again :)
 
@Geno very well played. I hope the comic did not get too far. You played very very well and you also used every dirty there was. Like a true scum. Can’t wait go play with or against you again :)
It felt bad pushing for you that hard, you did put a lot of effort in the comic posts, much respect.
 

CaptainNuevo

MDTLA Enthusiast
Staff member
And yes I would love to see the PDF


It's designed to be an oral experience, so some of these things (like the answer to trivia questions maybe?) might not translate, but if you DM me your answers I'll grade you.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs

It's designed to be an oral experience, so some of these things (like the answer to trivia questions maybe?) might not translate, but if you DM me your answers I'll grade you.
requested access XD
 
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