Scum Thread In the secret meeting place.

Geno

Geno

But he was scum reading Terra, he could've gone for protection but he went all in. My god that's so unlucky, I just hope Maol didn't get the message now, it's our only hope.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
OK, as soon as he claims, bus me with absolutely zero hesitation. Then if Maol gets the message, say that they must have had a code of using fake names b/c they role copped maol
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
"So the pasta we thought would be our dinner instead signs our death warrant."

I think that's a French literature quote worthy of being received by Darkside some day
 
Geno

Geno

Hawthorn said:
OK, as soon as he claims, bus me with absolutely zero hesitation. Then if Maol gets the message, say that they must have had a code of using fake names b/c they role copped maol
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Ngl if Maol got the message in my head I'm throwing the towel, there's no comeback from that, they lose nothing from lynching me to see what happens, they are way too far ahead, we need a ton of mislynches to win the game, 3rd parties doing nothing to help the situation.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Our only chance is for you to survive and hope that there's help out there in the form of a friendly neutral even thought there's absolutely no indication of it.

Say that Maol must be lying, there's some suspicion on him?
 
Geno

Geno

Hawthorn said:
Our only chance is for you to survive and hope that there's help out there in the form of a friendly neutral even thought there's absolutely no indication of it.

Say that Maol must be lying, there's some suspicion on him?
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There's no suspicion on Maol, anyway let's see what happens here, if we're lucky he didn't receive it.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Then they will just kill him, then you when he flips town, best case scenario.

Yeah, if Maol got the message we are probably done. Best case scenario, I convince them that turm is lying, they kill him, then me, then you convince them that Maol is lying, then they kill him, then you. That still leaves like 10 town alive.

I'm not going to post until turm claims, because I should at least say that I couldn't use my monkey power if I was jailed.

"Weird, I couldn't use my monkey sniffer power! The no kill must have been a doctor save!"

It's so believable.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I just wish we could last for longer, it feels kind of humiliating to be wiped out so early.

Maybe he didn't get the message ...
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Are we 100% sure that turmoil jailed me? If so, I feel like maybe having fun by getting ahead of the gate and claiming I scanned him and he's not a monkey.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I wonder if we could have pushed that turm was vanilla-ized -- I had no idea he would list that as a possibility. Too late now I've set up the thunderdome.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Actually, best case scenario is if they turbo me quickly before Maol posts, then you kill him tonight.

Or, ultimate best case scenario is to turbo turm, but IDK if we'll get there
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Best bop in and vote for me if a turbo seems likely, don't want you to be off-wagon on that, can still push melon later
 
Geno

Geno

Hawthorn said:
I wonder if we could have pushed that turm was vanilla-ized -- I had no idea he would list that as a possibility. Too late now I've set up the thunderdome.
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Depends on the gamerunner but if it was my game I would've told the player.
Hawthorn said:
Actually, best case scenario is if they turbo me quickly before Maol posts, then you kill him tonight.

Or, ultimate best case scenario is to turbo turm, but IDK if we'll get there
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I don't think they are in a turbo mood tbh and it's almost 3 AM here, I can't stay up for much longer but I don't have work tomorrow so I can stay a bit longer, studying anyway...
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Geno said:
Depends on the gamerunner but if it was my game I would've told the player.

I don't think they are in a turbo mood tbh and it's almost 3 AM here, I can't stay up for much longer but I don't have work tomorrow so I can stay a bit longer, studying anyway...
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Go to sleep! Life is more important than mafia, I forgot it was 3 AM for you. Maybe you'll wake up to a turbo surprise.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yes, you're in a good place if we can avoid the Maol message.

Should I fake a slip? There's some movement towards turm but it might be better to have it done quickly/cleanly
 
Geno

Geno

Hawthorn said:
Yes, you're in a good place if we can avoid the Maol message.

Should I fake a slip? There's some movement towards turm but it might be better to have it done quickly/cleanly
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Yeah I think just slip, Maol is out of shots he mentioned it already, we're clear on that.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I couldn't think of anything better, so I just slipped in "think it's working" as though I'd messed up threads, really making myself look like an idiot here. Hope they turbo before someone says it's out of character.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Sorian already thinks I'm doing reverse psychology so I'll refrain from any more fake slips for now, fingers crossed
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I couldn't resist and made one more slip. Overkill? Hedin now says he's ready for turbo ... make it quick, town. Make it quick.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
It sucks to leave Sorian alive, but if I die, kill Maol tonight, even if he's out of shots odds are good he got the message today.
 
Geno

Geno

I'm killing turm, he's confirmed and still has a shot and can't save himself, Maol said he had 2 shots which would mean he's out and has not received a happy meal to replenish one.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
WTF -- if he had two shots, why did we go crazy with all that posting all last night? Why are we trying for a turbo? Are you sure he said that?
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Ah, ok, I totally missed his post earlier this evening. OK good! I can calm down about the turbo now.
 
Geno

Geno

I'm going to divide the players to pushable and non pushable

Non pushable:
Hedin - imo the whole Fate thing really soft confirmed him
Sorian: There was no other cop like role so he's not getting out
Donnie: barring me speculating godfather he's safe due to Sorian
Faddy: Same as donnie
Turm: Basically confirmed after this
Melon: Gonna be a tough sell, it's a verifiable power and a useless one at that
Maol: Can't push for Maol I think.
Mcdonalds person: Same as above

Pushable:
Terra: can't verify himself, should be easy
Nin: Same
Blarg: Same
Bojack: His read of turm will get him lynched sooner or later
Wizard: I feel like I can push for him later
Darkside: Pretty easy push here in a day or 2
Salva: as long as he keeps guessing wrong he cannot verify his thing, I can push for him
Hawthorn said:
WTF -- if he had two shots, why did we go crazy with all that posting all last night? Why are we trying for a turbo? Are you sure he said that?
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The more they talk the worse for us imo, their mind is made up already.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Should have made a few fewer fake slips in my quest for a turbo & we could have taken out turmoil.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I mostly agree with that list. I think Melon could be pushable -- she doesn't care about appearing townie, she just says what she thinks, so sooner or later she'll make some comment that can get pushed as scummy. Also Loki's last game had two scum gossips, so scum messenger isn't out of the question.

Also possible to get one of Donnie or Faddy, since godfathers are pretty common.
 
Geno

Geno

14 players assuming no turm shenanegans on D5 and assuming no neutrals exit or whatever.
12 on D6
10 on D7
8 on D8
6 on D9
4 on D10, basically need 5 mislynches here and 7 people I can push for, it's doable if I kill the correct people. I can also speculate godfather because in 3 dead scum nobody flipped as him, however by then I'll be in my midterms fully and I might not be able to commit/will have to replace out if I feel the game is distracting me too much.
 
Geno

Geno

I kind of hope a neutral will just exit the game though and make my life easier, thankfully the no kill didn't hurt us much, same amount of mislynches are needed as before.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Seriously, there is no way this game doesn't have a neutral. The hope is just for them to win, ideally taking someone else out with them. Like a hunter pair. Or a ninja arsonist. But assuming we're not saved by a ninja arsonist, it'll be a miracle if you make it, no pressure, just have fun with it.

Who knows, maybe they'll ignore the smoking key and vote turm out today
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
At absolute best Donnie found out that Salva’s not a neutral, all the better as it means the real neutral, our savior, might have a better role

can’t believe I’m still alive. Get a move on, town
 
Geno

Geno

What are the roles we know nothing about still?
Bojack, Wizard and nin? 1 of them is the Mc Donalds person, then 1 of them has to be neutral.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Sorian - parity cop
Blarg - miller
Melon - messenger
Donnie - neutral cop?
Faddy
Salva - gacha player?
Hedin
Maol - infiltrator, out of shots
nin
The Wizard
Terra - sleepwalker
turmoil - jailor
Bojack
Darkside
Geno - item stealer
Hawthorn - totally legit Monkey Cop

Can't remember what, if anything, has been claimed by Faddy, Hedin, nin, the Wizard, Bojack, or Darkside. I feel like I have a vague memory of the Wizard hinting at responsibility for the items.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Darkside does not seem neutral, Faddy would have failed the parity test. I would guess nin or Bojack as a neutral if I had to pick.
 
Geno

Geno

Hedin asks a question to loki, I totally forgot Faddy and darkside, hm, darkside I guess could be playing a lowkey neutral, trying to survive.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I feel like if darkside was a neutral he might not have gone public with the messages. How could I possibly forget about the true Hobbes medium, list-making blindness
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I'll do my best to check in & hammer if necessary, but I'm out & about today, it'll be periodic but not constant.

I could just open wolf and self-vote now, get my muddying the waters speech out before I leave the house, less dramatic than if it's the hammer though
 
Geno

Geno

Hawthorn said:
I'll do my best to check in & hammer if necessary, but I'm out & about today, it'll be periodic but not constant.

I could just open wolf and self-vote now, get my muddying the waters speech out before I leave the house, less dramatic than if it's the hammer though
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Either works I guess
 
Geno

Geno

I'm not going to do any unnecessary track or item steal movements that can get me caught, I'll just stick with the kill.
Kill:Turmoil7
 
Geno

Geno

The strategy that has always worked for me is make town think they're way ahead and just try to rush through lynches and pushing for turbos on players. I noticed our PM doesn't say eliminate threats to our team, so it has to be a neutral playing their own game here.
 
Geno

Geno

I'm drunk and I refresh the page and see 2 notif and think I posted something that I shouldn't have but thank god it's just that lol.
 
Geno

Geno

Ok so here's the plan, day opens, I just push nin to claim and say that we should wrap this up, I'll then vote nin and chill.
 
Geno

Geno

That sucks though since I'm unlikely to target them for a kill and I might be pushing them without knowing, maybe the track recruits as well...
 
Geno

Geno

Hell yeah that's what we needed, a mod confirmed town on D5. Fuck me man.

Pushable:
Terra
Nin
Darkside
Blarg
Salva

Need gone ASAP
Bojack
Donnie
Faddy
Wizard
Melon
Hedin

Players who will not vote for me if I live to the final 4
Sorian I think
Terra
I need more info on this
 
Geno

Geno

I bet if Dr. Monkey is reading the game right now she knows I'm scum and is screaming at town to vote me. I'm glad she's not playing rn because lowkey she could've convinced them to get me out.

Nin when you read this, I'm sorry man, I just need to sound frustrated town in order for them to trust me.
 
Geno

Geno

I have to make sure they don't go wizard today, it leads to me through wifom, Wizard has to be the last mislynch town does before we win.
 
Geno

Geno

Plan going well with the turbo, if Donnie takes care of Blarg then it's 8/ and theoretically 2 of us, unless Blarg is recruitable and donnie goes Blarg/Me and then we lose.
 
Geno

Geno

Ok I have to kill Faddy here or they'll want to check the role. Donnie takes out himself and Blarg.
Best case scenario:
10 alive:
Maol
Me
Darkside
Sorian
Terra
Salva
Wizard
Bojack
Hedin
Melon
Assuming no recruitables exist because if they do they are in the POE and will get dealt with.
I can realistically push for darkside, Terra is a harder sell with nin flipping town but it's plausible, say darkside goes out, I then have to kill Bojack, the final confirmed town of the 3.

Next day opens with 8 alive, Terra is probably still a no, the options I have here are Wizard and Salva, I have to keep Wizard in for a bit longer so I'll go for Salva.

I kill melon here, she's widely town read and is kind of sussing me.

Next day opens with 6 alive and I need 2 mislynches to win, here I can realistically push Terra, maybe even Maol for deep wolf.

My kill is harder to pick for that night, the game has Maol, Sorian, Wizard, Hedin and me, Hedin and Sorian seem to think Wizard might be scum, Sorian thinks I'm town 100% and Hedin is unsure, it would depend on Maol's feelings at that stage but I think I kill Maol here. Final 4 and hopefully I can get Hedin on board to go for Wizard, that should give is the W.
 
Geno

Geno

Loki and Vere any chance after this day is over you do the whole place all night actions to start the day early thing?
 
Geno

Geno

I didn't consider that about darkside, that sucks, I need to rethink my strategy now and push for Maol more later on.
 
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